• None dare call it insurrection

    From Wilson@Wilson@nowhere.invalid to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Mon Oct 6 15:54:01 2025
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    https://x.com/GovPritzker/status/1975013177026109717

    Governor JB Pritzker
    @GovPritzker

    "This evening, President Trump is ordering 400 members of the Texas
    National Guard for deployments to Illinois, Oregon, and other locations
    within the United States. No officials from the federal government
    called me directly to discuss or coordinate.

    "We must now start calling this what it is: TrumprCOs Invasion. It started with federal agents, it will soon include deploying federalized members
    of the Illinois National Guard against our wishes, and it will now
    involve sending in another staterCOs military troops.

    "I call on Governor Abbott to immediately withdraw any support for this decision and refuse to coordinate. There is no reason a President should
    send military troops into a sovereign state without their knowledge,
    consent, or cooperation.

    "The brave men and women who serve in our national guards must not be
    used as political props. This is a moment where every American must
    speak up and help stop this madness.


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  • From Noah Sombrero@fedora@fea.st to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Mon Oct 6 16:44:44 2025
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    On Mon, 6 Oct 2025 15:54:01 -0400, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid>
    wrote:


    https://x.com/GovPritzker/status/1975013177026109717

    Governor JB Pritzker
    @GovPritzker

    "This evening, President Trump is ordering 400 members of the Texas
    National Guard for deployments to Illinois, Oregon, and other locations >within the United States. No officials from the federal government
    called me directly to discuss or coordinate.

    "We must now start calling this what it is: TrumpAs Invasion. It started >with federal agents, it will soon include deploying federalized members
    of the Illinois National Guard against our wishes, and it will now
    involve sending in another stateAs military troops.

    "I call on Governor Abbott to immediately withdraw any support for this >decision and refuse to coordinate. There is no reason a President should >send military troops into a sovereign state without their knowledge, >consent, or cooperation.

    "The brave men and women who serve in our national guards must not be
    used as political props. This is a moment where every American must
    speak up and help stop this madness.


    I sit here waiting for you to try to justify what himbo is doing.
    --
    Noah Sombrero mustachioed villain
    Don't get political with me young man
    or I'll tie you to a railroad track and
    <<<talk>>> to <<<YOOooooo>>>
    Who dares to talk to El Sombrero?
    dares: Ned
    does not dare: Julian shrinks in horror and warns others away

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  • From dart200@user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Mon Oct 6 15:04:14 2025
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    On 10/6/25 12:54 PM, Wilson wrote:

    https://x.com/GovPritzker/status/1975013177026109717

    Governor JB Pritzker
    @GovPritzker

    "This evening, President Trump is ordering 400 members of the Texas
    National Guard for deployments to Illinois, Oregon, and other locations within the United States. No officials from the federal government
    called me directly to discuss or coordinate.

    "We must now start calling this what it is: TrumprCOs Invasion. It started with federal agents, it will soon include deploying federalized members
    of the Illinois National Guard against our wishes, and it will now
    involve sending in another staterCOs military troops.

    "I call on Governor Abbott to immediately withdraw any support for this decision and refuse to coordinate. There is no reason a President should send military troops into a sovereign state without their knowledge, consent, or cooperation.

    "The brave men and women who serve in our national guards must not be
    used as political props. This is a moment where every American must
    speak up and help stop this madness.



    what does this even do besides feed the spectacle???
    --
    hi, i'm nick! let's end war EfOa

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  • From Noah Sombrero@fedora@fea.st to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Mon Oct 6 23:15:34 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On Mon, 6 Oct 2025 15:04:14 -0700, dart200
    <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    On 10/6/25 12:54 PM, Wilson wrote:

    https://x.com/GovPritzker/status/1975013177026109717

    Governor JB Pritzker
    @GovPritzker

    "This evening, President Trump is ordering 400 members of the Texas
    National Guard for deployments to Illinois, Oregon, and other locations
    within the United States. No officials from the federal government
    called me directly to discuss or coordinate.

    "We must now start calling this what it is: TrumpAs Invasion. It started
    with federal agents, it will soon include deploying federalized members
    of the Illinois National Guard against our wishes, and it will now
    involve sending in another stateAs military troops.

    "I call on Governor Abbott to immediately withdraw any support for this
    decision and refuse to coordinate. There is no reason a President should
    send military troops into a sovereign state without their knowledge,
    consent, or cooperation.

    "The brave men and women who serve in our national guards must not be
    used as political props. This is a moment where every American must
    speak up and help stop this madness.



    what does this even do besides feed the spectacle???

    It is prelude to the justification a little later in the day.
    --
    Noah Sombrero mustachioed villain
    Don't get political with me young man
    or I'll tie you to a railroad track and
    <<<talk>>> to <<<YOOooooo>>>
    Who dares to talk to El Sombrero?
    dares: Ned
    does not dare: Julian shrinks in horror and warns others away

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  • From Wilson@Wilson@nowhere.invalid to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Tue Oct 7 12:04:06 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On 10/6/2025 6:04 PM, dart200 wrote:
    On 10/6/25 12:54 PM, Wilson wrote:

    https://x.com/GovPritzker/status/1975013177026109717

    Governor JB Pritzker
    @GovPritzker

    "This evening, President Trump is ordering 400 members of the Texas
    National Guard for deployments to Illinois, Oregon, and other
    locations within the United States. No officials from the federal
    government called me directly to discuss or coordinate.

    "We must now start calling this what it is: TrumprCOs Invasion. It
    started with federal agents, it will soon include deploying
    federalized members of the Illinois National Guard against our wishes,
    and it will now involve sending in another staterCOs military troops.

    "I call on Governor Abbott to immediately withdraw any support for
    this decision and refuse to coordinate. There is no reason a President
    should send military troops into a sovereign state without their
    knowledge, consent, or cooperation.

    "The brave men and women who serve in our national guards must not be
    used as political props. This is a moment where every American must
    speak up and help stop this madness.



    what does this even do besides feed the spectacle???


    He hopes it sways the public perception, which (again he hopes) might
    sway judges. And of course get votes.

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  • From Noah Sombrero@fedora@fea.st to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Tue Oct 7 12:06:45 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On Tue, 7 Oct 2025 12:04:06 -0400, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid>
    wrote:

    On 10/6/2025 6:04 PM, dart200 wrote:
    On 10/6/25 12:54 PM, Wilson wrote:

    https://x.com/GovPritzker/status/1975013177026109717

    Governor JB Pritzker
    @GovPritzker

    "This evening, President Trump is ordering 400 members of the Texas
    National Guard for deployments to Illinois, Oregon, and other
    locations within the United States. No officials from the federal
    government called me directly to discuss or coordinate.

    "We must now start calling this what it is: TrumpAs Invasion. It
    started with federal agents, it will soon include deploying
    federalized members of the Illinois National Guard against our wishes,
    and it will now involve sending in another stateAs military troops.

    "I call on Governor Abbott to immediately withdraw any support for
    this decision and refuse to coordinate. There is no reason a President
    should send military troops into a sovereign state without their
    knowledge, consent, or cooperation.

    "The brave men and women who serve in our national guards must not be
    used as political props. This is a moment where every American must
    speak up and help stop this madness.



    what does this even do besides feed the spectacle???


    He hopes it sways the public perception, which (again he hopes) might
    sway judges. And of course get votes.

    Regardless, let us not grant him a particle of good will,
    unself-interested intent. Not a bit.
    --
    Noah Sombrero mustachioed villain
    Don't get political with me young man
    or I'll tie you to a railroad track and
    <<<talk>>> to <<<YOOooooo>>>
    Who dares to talk to El Sombrero?
    dares: Ned
    does not dare: Julian shrinks in horror and warns others away

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  • From Wilson@Wilson@nowhere.invalid to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Tue Oct 7 12:18:56 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On 10/6/2025 4:44 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Mon, 6 Oct 2025 15:54:01 -0400, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid>
    wrote:


    https://x.com/GovPritzker/status/1975013177026109717

    Governor JB Pritzker
    @GovPritzker

    "This evening, President Trump is ordering 400 members of the Texas
    National Guard for deployments to Illinois, Oregon, and other locations
    within the United States. No officials from the federal government
    called me directly to discuss or coordinate.

    "We must now start calling this what it is: TrumprCOs Invasion. It started >> with federal agents, it will soon include deploying federalized members
    of the Illinois National Guard against our wishes, and it will now
    involve sending in another staterCOs military troops.

    "I call on Governor Abbott to immediately withdraw any support for this
    decision and refuse to coordinate. There is no reason a President should
    send military troops into a sovereign state without their knowledge,
    consent, or cooperation.

    "The brave men and women who serve in our national guards must not be
    used as political props. This is a moment where every American must
    speak up and help stop this madness.


    I sit here waiting for you to try to justify what himbo is doing.

    Federal law, like it or not, is real. And the feds have the legal
    authority to enforce those laws.

    So don't ask me to justify their actions. The courts can figure it out,
    if they're good for anything.

    The Trump admin says local governments are enabling law breakers by
    allowing rioters to break local laws. And they are giving encouragement
    to those rioters. It's reached the point where the function of federal
    agents is significantly degraded.

    And those riots are also infringing on the civil rights of local people
    by preventing them from going about their legally protected day to day activities.

    There are not enough federal agents to protect all of the ICE
    facilities. So the National Guard need to be deployed to do the protection.

    Again, so says the Trump admin.

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  • From Noah Sombrero@fedora@fea.st to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Tue Oct 7 12:36:09 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On Tue, 7 Oct 2025 12:18:56 -0400, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid>
    wrote:

    On 10/6/2025 4:44 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Mon, 6 Oct 2025 15:54:01 -0400, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid>
    wrote:


    https://x.com/GovPritzker/status/1975013177026109717

    Governor JB Pritzker
    @GovPritzker

    "This evening, President Trump is ordering 400 members of the Texas
    National Guard for deployments to Illinois, Oregon, and other locations
    within the United States. No officials from the federal government
    called me directly to discuss or coordinate.

    "We must now start calling this what it is: TrumpAs Invasion. It started >>> with federal agents, it will soon include deploying federalized members
    of the Illinois National Guard against our wishes, and it will now
    involve sending in another stateAs military troops.

    "I call on Governor Abbott to immediately withdraw any support for this
    decision and refuse to coordinate. There is no reason a President should >>> send military troops into a sovereign state without their knowledge,
    consent, or cooperation.

    "The brave men and women who serve in our national guards must not be
    used as political props. This is a moment where every American must
    speak up and help stop this madness.


    I sit here waiting for you to try to justify what himbo is doing.

    Federal law, like it or not, is real. And the feds have the legal
    authority to enforce those laws.

    States are responsible for their own law enforcement. If they need
    help they can ask for it, but it cannot legally be imposed by the
    feds. The mayor of memphis did ask, as he well might, since the
    numbers you provided say memphis is one of those much worse off than
    portland.

    The interesting thing for me is himbo's choice of targets, none of
    which are among the really high on your list. Portland is # 5 for
    property crime, it is true, but others are much worse. None of which
    have been targeted. It looks like he is interested in only making d
    governors and mayors look bad. He doesn't invade r cities and
    governors because this is not really about crime, it as usual is
    about optics, to borrow your word.

    But when memphis asks, sure he needs to help.

    So don't ask me to justify their actions. The courts can figure it out,
    if they're good for anything.

    I was expecting you would step in here with justification, as you did.
    The Trump admin says local governments are enabling law breakers by
    allowing rioters to break local laws. And they are giving encouragement
    to those rioters. It's reached the point where the function of federal >agents is significantly degraded.

    He means d local governments. Not r local governments. They give encouragement: as well they might, since they did not ask to be
    invaded.

    There was no rioting in portand until the feds arrived. It begins to
    look like himbo intended to provoke rioting so he can accuse d govts
    of all that stuff you say, to discredit them, and ultimately to
    replace them.

    And those riots are also infringing on the civil rights of local people
    by preventing them from going about their legally protected day to day >activities.

    There are not enough federal agents to protect all of the ICE
    facilities. So the National Guard need to be deployed to do the protection.

    Again, so says the Trump admin.

    Probably not enough national guard either, considering the size of the
    really big us cities.
    --
    Noah Sombrero mustachioed villain
    Don't get political with me young man
    or I'll tie you to a railroad track and
    <<<talk>>> to <<<YOOooooo>>>
    Who dares to talk to El Sombrero?
    dares: Ned
    does not dare: Julian shrinks in horror and warns others away

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  • From dart200@user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Tue Oct 7 11:38:27 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On 10/7/25 9:04 AM, Wilson wrote:
    On 10/6/2025 6:04 PM, dart200 wrote:
    On 10/6/25 12:54 PM, Wilson wrote:

    https://x.com/GovPritzker/status/1975013177026109717

    Governor JB Pritzker
    @GovPritzker

    "This evening, President Trump is ordering 400 members of the Texas
    National Guard for deployments to Illinois, Oregon, and other
    locations within the United States. No officials from the federal
    government called me directly to discuss or coordinate.

    "We must now start calling this what it is: TrumprCOs Invasion. It
    started with federal agents, it will soon include deploying
    federalized members of the Illinois National Guard against our
    wishes, and it will now involve sending in another staterCOs military
    troops.

    "I call on Governor Abbott to immediately withdraw any support for
    this decision and refuse to coordinate. There is no reason a
    President should send military troops into a sovereign state without
    their knowledge, consent, or cooperation.

    "The brave men and women who serve in our national guards must not be
    used as political props. This is a moment where every American must
    speak up and help stop this madness.



    what does this even do besides feed the spectacle???


    He hopes it sways the public perception, which (again he hopes) might
    sway judges.-a And of course get votes.


    see like i said? just a feeding the fking spectacle
    --
    hi, i'm nick! let's end war EfOa

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