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On 10/5/2025 1:51 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 5 Oct 2025 13:34:01 -0400, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid>
wrote:
On 10/5/2025 12:21 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 5 Oct 2025 11:51:09 -0400, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.invalid>
wrote:
On 10/4/2025 2:13 PM, Wilson wrote:
https://www.nationalreview.com/news/dem-ag-nominee-jay-jones-fantasized- >>>>>> about-shooting-former-virginia-gop-speaker-he-receives-both-bullets/ >>>>>>
aHe Receives Both BulletsA
On August 8, 2022, a Republican state legislator received a disturbing >>>>>> string of early-morning text messages from a former colleague, Jay >>>>>> Jones, this yearAs Democratic nominee for Virginia attorney general. >>>>>>
Jones, who at the time had recently resigned from the state house after >>>>>> a brief stint representing Norfolk, had strong feelings about how the >>>>>> political class was eulogizing recently deceased former state legislator >>>>>> Joe Johnson Jr., a moderate Democrat with a long tenure in Virginia >>>>>> politics. Republican legislators like House Speaker Todd Gilbert had >>>>>> begun making public statements honoring JohnsonAs memory and political >>>>>> legacy, and some of those statements were making the rounds in state >>>>>> legislative group chats.
Around 8 a.m., Jones shared those feelings with his former state
legislative colleague, Republican House Delegate Carrie Coyner. In a >>>>>> series of text messages obtained by National Review, Jones derided >>>>>> JohnsonAs political centrism and scoffed at the oglowingo tributes that >>>>>> were being made in his honor by Republicans in the wake of his death. >>>>>>
oDamn that was for mark,o he wrote to Coyner, suggesting heAd meant to >>>>>> send the texts to someone else. And yet that realization didnAt stop >>>>>> Jones from joking about what othat POSo Gilbert owould say about me if I >>>>>> died.o
Then, the conversation took a dark turn.
oIf those guys die before me,o Jones wrote, referencing the Republican >>>>>> colleagues who were publicly honoring the deceased JohnsonAs memory, oI >>>>>> will go to their funerals to piss on their graveso to osend them out >>>>>> awash in something.o
Jones then suggested that, presented with a hypothetical situation in >>>>>> which he had only two bullets and was faced with the choice of murdering >>>>>> then-Speaker of the House Todd Gilbert or two dictators, heAd shoot >>>>>> Gilbert oevery time,o prompting pushback from his former colleague: >>>>>>
Jones: Three people, two bullets
aGilbert, hitler, and pol pot
aGilbert gets two bullets to the head
aSpoiler: put Gilbert in the crew with the two worst people you know >>>>>> and he receives both bullets every time
Coyner: Jay
aPlease stop
Jones: Lol
aOk, ok
Coyner: It really bothers me when you talk about hurting people or >>>>>> wishing death on them
aIt isnAt ok
aNo matter who they are
Asked about the years-old text exchange, Coyner condemned JonesAs
rhetoric and said she sent screenshots of the conversation to Gilbert >>>>>> that day. She said she and Jones havenAt spoken since, aside from a >>>>>> brief conversation about policy issues. oOn August 8, 2022 I had a text >>>>>> conversation with Jay Jones, what he said was not just disturbing but >>>>>> disqualifying for anyone who wants to seek public office,o she told NR >>>>>> in a statement. oJay Jones wished violence on the children of a
colleague and joked about shooting Todd Gilbert. ItAs disgusting and >>>>>> unbecoming of any public official.o
Jones and his campaign spokesperson did not respond to repeated requests >>>>>> for comment. Gilbert also did not respond to a request for comment. The >>>>>> Miyares campaign declined to comment.
Following publication, another outlet published a reaction from the >>>>>> Jones campaign. oLike all people, IAve sent text messages that I regret >>>>>> and I believe that violent rhetoric has no place in our politics,o he >>>>>> said, after his campaign ignored repeated requests for comment from NR. >>>>>> oLetAs be clear about what is happening in the Attorney General race >>>>>> right now: Jason Miyares is dropping smears through Trump-controlled >>>>>> media organizations to assault my character and rescue his desperate >>>>>> campaign. This is a strategy that ensures Jason Miyares will continue to >>>>>> be accountable to Donald Trump, not the people of Virginia. This race is >>>>>> about whether Trump can control Virginia or Virginians control Virginia.o
aBreeding Little FascistsA
CoynerAs alarm at her former colleagueAs violent rhetoric toward Gilbert >>>>>> prompted Jones to call her and explain his reasoning over the phone, a >>>>>> source familiar with the exchange told NR.
According to the source, the Democratic former legislator doubled down >>>>>> on the call, saying the only way public policy changes is when
policymakers feel pain themselves, like the pain that parents feel when >>>>>> they watch their children die from gun violence. He asked her to provide >>>>>> counterexamples to disprove his claim.
Then at one point, the source said, he suggested he wished GilbertAs >>>>>> wife could watch her own child die in her arms so that Gilbert might >>>>>> reconsider his political views, prompting Coyner to hang up the phone in >>>>>> disgust.
Afterward, Jones continued his barrage of text messages, saying he was >>>>>> just asking questions. Coyner dismissed his excuse via text and
chastised Jones for ohopping [sic] Jennifer GilbertAs children would die.o
Rather than deny that he had wished death on the children, Jones
responded by saying, oYes, IAve told you this before. Only when people >>>>>> feel pain personally do they move on policy.o
Faced with more pushback from his frazzled former colleague, Jones >>>>>> somehow took the conversation a step further: oI mean do I think Todd >>>>>> and Jennifer are evil? And that theyAre breeding little fascists? Yes,o >>>>>> he wrote, referring to GilbertAs wife and two young children.
The young attorney general nominee has also faced criticism for his lack >>>>>> of prosecutorial experience in his bid to become the commonwealthAs >>>>>> highest-ranking law enforcement officer, as well as his progressive >>>>>> state legislative record that Republicans pan as being osoft on crime.o >>>>>> And heAs come under fire for exaggerating his legal accomplishments, >>>>>> including the role he played in the District of ColumbiaAs successful >>>>>> 2022 legal victory against a so-called oghost guno manufacturer.
To recap, the guy running to be Virginia's Attorney General, the top law >>>>> enforcement officer in the state, fantasized openly about murdering a >>>>> political opponent and seeing their children dying.
Virginia Dem leaders are not asking him to step aside.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/virginia-dems-say-candidate-who-fantasized-about-murdering-gop-leader-is-better-than-republicans
That lust for violence against political opponents is not a one-off. >>>>> Abigail Spanberger is the Democrat running for Governor in the same
state of Virginia. In June of 2025 she said during a campaign event, >>>>> "Let your rage fuel you".
https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/5524115-let-your-rage-fuel-you-politicians-and-pundits-embrace-demonization-politics/
It's becoming more and more apparent what that sort of rage actually >>>>> creates.
I would be a lot more open to your accusations if you were to mention
similar behaviors from r's.
A one sided discussion is simply a no go for me. And I don't let you
get away with saying they do it and we do not. You lack of ethical
standards damns you in my eyes.
Right back atcha, the same applies to you.
What I post here always is a discussion of both sides. Never a
political diatribe. I do have my opinions though.
Self-awareness is not something bestowed upon everyone, apparently.