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On 10/5/25 10:40 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 5 Oct 2025 10:10:36 -0700, dart200
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
On 10/5/25 6:07 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 5 Oct 2025 00:48:55 -0700, dart200
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
On 10/4/25 12:34 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 4 Oct 2025 10:42:22 -0700, dart200
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
On 10/4/25 10:10 AM, Tara wrote:No kidding.
On Oct 4, 2025 at 12:53:50?PM EDT, "Noah Sombrero" <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Sat, 04 Oct 2025 12:45:56 -0400, Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> >>>>>>>>> wrote:we should use some
On Sat, 4 Oct 2025 15:35:37 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca> wrote:
On Oct 4, 2025 at 10:57:50?AM EDT, "Tara" <tsm@fastmail.ca> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>
United States may split into warring federal entities. Let?s side with the
better one
U.S. President Donald Trump has deployed federal troops to several cities this
year, including Los Angeles in June.
What if the United States divides into two competing ? and, potentially,
warring ? federal entities? That has now become a sufficiently real
near-future possibility that countries like Canada should plan for it.
Two developments in recent weeks have brought us close to that outcome.
The first received little attention. In September, the Democratic >>>>>>>>>>>> Party-controlled states of the east and west coasts banded together to create
what is, in effect, their own shadow version of the federal Department of
Health and Human Services, now run by conspiracy theorist Robert F. Kennedy
Jr.
After Mr. Kennedy fired the head of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and
Prevention and effectively ended support for COVID-19 vaccines and for
childhood vaccinations that have been mandatory for half a century, Democratic
states formed the West Coast Health Alliance and the Northeast Public Health
Collaborative to fund health services that are, in the words of California
Governor Gavin Newsom, ?grounded in science, not ideology.? These bodies are
likely to take over increasing functions from HHS in their states, and
eventually to merge.
This marked the latest act of what might be called shadow federalism ? the
creation of multi-state agencies to replace functions that Washington has
abdicated or corrupted under President Donald Trump.
Similar shadow federal bodies include the Reproductive Freedom Alliance,
formed by 23 governors from both parties in 2023 to ensure the provision of
abortion, in-vitro fertilization and other reproductive services in their
states after the Trump-appointed Supreme Court ended federal protections. It
joined existing pseudo-federal bodies such as the Regional Greenhouse Gas
Initiative, which provides carbon pricing for a number of states in the
absence of suitable federal climate policy. It appears likely that other
shadow federal departments will take shape.
Mr. Trump says he's sending federal troops to several cities to get a handle
on crime and civil unrest.
The second development was very public, and unfolded live on Tuesday.
Shortly after Secretary of Defence Pete Hegseth told senior generals and
admirals that they should disobey the laws of war and human rights, saying ?we
don?t fight with stupid rules of engagement. We untie the hands of our war
fighters to intimidate, demoralize, hunt and kill the enemies of our country,?
Mr. Trump told them how he wants to deploy this new ethos of inhumanity.
?We?re under invasion from within,? the President declared, referring to a
list of ?blue? (Democratic) cities as his intended targets: ?This is gonna be
a big thing for the people in this room, because it?s the enemy from within,
and we have to handle it before it gets out of control
[American] cities as training grounds for our military.? >>>>>>>>>>>>
This was not simply Trumpian bluster, because troops have already been told by
the President to deploy in Los Angeles, Chicago, Memphis, Portland and the
District of Columbia, all of them heavily Democratic-voting cities with
sharply declining crime rates.
Mr. Trump claimed these troops are intended to get a handle on out-of-control
crime and civil unrest. However, troops have not generally been ordered to any
cities in the states with the highest crime rates, almost all of which are
Republican-controlled (Memphis is a lone exception).
To be clear: The places Mr. Trump has declared ?enemies within? and sent
troops to quell are those states and cities that are busy creating shadow
federal agencies to replace governing functions he has destroyed. They are
states and cities governed by what Mr. Trump characterizes as the ?extreme
left,? although they all have quite conventional middle-of-the road
governments. They just don?t vote for him.
These two developments contain the seeds of a United States divided into two
competing federalisms, and even of an eventual secession or civil war. They?re
not anywhere close to that point now, but the ingredients are now in place:
Mr. Trump is acting as if a counter-MAGA federal entity exists, and Democratic
governors are establishing some of the infrastructure that would be used for
the creation of one, if the federal government became permanently >>>>>>>>>>>> disconnected.
An actual schism would not be triggered unless Mr. Trump managed to manipulate
or seize the democratic system to keep his party in power against the will of
the American people.
But this is also no longer a subject for speculative fiction. Texas recently
passed a bill that dramatically redraws its electoral map to prevent Democrats
from winning Congressional seats, and other ?red? states followed. On Nov. 4,
voters in California will be asked in a referendum to authorize ?temporary
changes to Congressional district maps in response to Texas? partisan
redistricting,? creating a Republican-proof state until 2031. >>>>>>>>>>>>
Principled Americans are preparing to create parallel voting systems, federal
agencies and protective alliances in case Mr. Trump turns out the lights.
Canada should plan on building links to the institutions of this more
legitimate America, even if it?s not the one that controls Washington.
Doug Saunders
G&M
To the Democrats and to all sane people in the U.S. - For the good of the U.S.
and for the rest of the world, your only option now is to fight back with all
that you have. You won once, you can do it again. And this time the stakes are
so much higher. Organize - and reach out to Canadians (it's our fight too).
Let's see what happens a few months from now when the us still has not
funded its government.
A functional separation might be closer than you think.
needs be
and it looks like it needs to be.
It's taken me a long time and a lot of consideration to get to this point. But
now I'm all in. He needs to be defeated!
and then onto the next fking retard ... it can always get worse, eh? >>>>>>
Our future is at stake as well - time to get serious.
"Canada needs to consider the possibility that U.S. President Donald Trump
will soon, and without our permission, send American warships into and through
the waterways of the Canadian Arctic archipelago, commonly known as the
Northwest Passage."
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/gift/13a5733c6fa3ca48e7c299defd6b6449e1196cd367a74fe3d7c7b00addb6c66e/LXY3E3R25NHORO7J6VGG2ISZ3U/
a burnt out swe investigating into why our tooling doesn't involve >>>>>>> basic programmatic considerations like halting analysis.
I can say that my degree in software engineering did not include
halting analysis. There is the concept of acceptable failure though. >>>>>> For instance when a stop light fails:
red in all directions is acceptable failure.
green in all directions is not. Systems must be included that make >>>>>> that outcome impossible.
On the other hand, if an airliner crashes into a stop light or nearly >>>>>> anything else, all bets are off. For example. I'm talking about
catastrophic wide spread disaster.
You might be a clever programmer, but as they used to say, the highest >>>>>> compliment you can give a programmer is, "It works." Your cleverness >>>>>> does not extend to anticipating how catastrophic wide spread disaster >>>>>> might play out. Only god can deal with such improbabilities.
nigga, if the halting problem is correct, then even god couldn't figure >>>>> out what machines halt or not
Nuff said.
turing was wrong tho
Wiki:
"The test was introduced by Turing in his 1950 paper "Computing
Machinery and Intelligence" while working at the University of
Manchester.[4] It opens with the words: "I propose to consider the
question, 'Can machines think?'" Because "thinking" is difficult to
define, Turing chooses to "replace the question by another, which is
closely related to it and is expressed in relatively unambiguous
words".[5] Turing describes the new form of the problem in terms of a
three-person party game called the "imitation game", in which an
interrogator asks questions of a man and a woman in another room in
order to determine the correct sex of the two players. Turing's new
question is: "Are there imaginable digital computers which would do
well in the imitation game?"[2] This question, Turing believed, was
one that could actually be answered. In the remainder of the paper, he
argued against the major objections to the proposition that "machines
can think".[6]
nigga ur way outa ur league here, and that ain't what i'm talking about
when i say "halting problem"
Since Turing introduced his test, it has been highly influential in
the philosophy of artificial intelligence, resulting in substantial
discussion and controversy, as well as criticism from philosophers
like John Searle, who argue against the test's ability to detect
consciousness.[7][8]
Since the mid-2020s, several large language models such as ChatGPT
have passed modern, rigorous variants of the Turing test.[9][10][11]"
idgaf bout ur wikislop
So ai has been able to guess the sex of the players in the other room.
The problem I think, is that this question in itself is too narrow to
be a definitive answer to the question.
Can computers think? Can they gather info and from that deduce an
answer to a question? Lately it seems clear that they can do that
much. Even though turing didn't think it possibe.
Are they conscious, are the self aware?
Those are deeper questions not yet approached.
Can computers determine in detail exactly what will happen when a
airliner crashes into a skyscraper? Maybe someday. Maybe much will
they already can.
wtc7 did not experience an airplane crash. NIST
literally just pulled a model out of their ass to explain it, and then
never released the model (b/c it obviously was a pile of unusable for
trash anything other than NIST using it to fake a wtc7 explanation)
2 of the most advance finite element analysis models both show that wtc7 >required simultaneous failure from all vertical columns to do what it
did ... which fires just can't cause.
oh and no one even explained wtc1/2 initiation either. NIST also just
pulled random unexplained forces out of their assholes to get them to >initiate collapse. wikislop won't tell u that tho.
depend on whether a copier was in use when the airliner arrived, or
something. Or whether air conditioner or heat syetems were active at
the time. Or which direction the wind was blowing from. Or whether
suzie was hiding in a closet lighting a cigarette.
u speak words, but those words don't mean what u think they mean
On 10/5/2025 10:41 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 5 Oct 2025 09:52:58 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:"If the glove doesn't fit, you must acquit." - Johnny Cochran
On 10/5/2025 6:25 AM, Tara wrote:
dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:So, I lived in Los Angeles for two years and I can say without the least >>> hesitation: it' a big shit hole. Who needs the National Guard when you
On 10/4/25 7:57 AM, Tara wrote:
United States may split into warring federal entities. LetAs side with the
better one
U.S. President Donald Trump has deployed federal troops to several cities this
year, including Los Angeles in June.
i was in la a few blocks from where the national guard was "deployed". >>>>> honestly la is a massive city and 99% didn't give a shit.
I believe you.
already have the Gestapo - the LAPD! ?
And yet oj walked free.
The Gestapo LAPD almost killed Rodney King and caused one of the worst--
riots in LA history. The California National Guard was deployed in 1965
to help end the Watts riots at the request of the state government, with >over 14,000 personnel involved in what was code-named "Operation
Safeguard" to restore order.
don't feed the spectacle
What if the United States divides into two competing u and, potentially, >>>>>> warring u federal entities? That has now become a sufficiently real >>>>>> near-future possibility that countries like Canada should plan for it. >>>>>>
On Sun, 5 Oct 2025 10:54:41 -0700, dart200
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
On 10/5/25 10:40 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 5 Oct 2025 10:10:36 -0700, dart200
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
On 10/5/25 6:07 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 5 Oct 2025 00:48:55 -0700, dart200
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
On 10/4/25 12:34 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 4 Oct 2025 10:42:22 -0700, dart200
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
On 10/4/25 10:10 AM, Tara wrote:No kidding.
On Oct 4, 2025 at 12:53:50?PM EDT, "Noah Sombrero" <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Sat, 04 Oct 2025 12:45:56 -0400, Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:we should use some
On Sat, 4 Oct 2025 15:35:37 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca> wrote:
On Oct 4, 2025 at 10:57:50?AM EDT, "Tara" <tsm@fastmail.ca> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>
United States may split into warring federal entities. Let?s side with the
better one
U.S. President Donald Trump has deployed federal troops to several cities this
year, including Los Angeles in June.
What if the United States divides into two competing ? and, potentially,
warring ? federal entities? That has now become a sufficiently real
near-future possibility that countries like Canada should plan for it.
Two developments in recent weeks have brought us close to that outcome.
The first received little attention. In September, the Democratic >>>>>>>>>>>>> Party-controlled states of the east and west coasts banded together to create
what is, in effect, their own shadow version of the federal Department of
Health and Human Services, now run by conspiracy theorist Robert F. Kennedy
Jr.
After Mr. Kennedy fired the head of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and
Prevention and effectively ended support for COVID-19 vaccines and for
childhood vaccinations that have been mandatory for half a century, Democratic
states formed the West Coast Health Alliance and the Northeast Public Health
Collaborative to fund health services that are, in the words of California
Governor Gavin Newsom, ?grounded in science, not ideology.? These bodies are
likely to take over increasing functions from HHS in their states, and
eventually to merge.
This marked the latest act of what might be called shadow federalism ? the
creation of multi-state agencies to replace functions that Washington has
abdicated or corrupted under President Donald Trump. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
Similar shadow federal bodies include the Reproductive Freedom Alliance,
formed by 23 governors from both parties in 2023 to ensure the provision of
abortion, in-vitro fertilization and other reproductive services in their
states after the Trump-appointed Supreme Court ended federal protections. It
joined existing pseudo-federal bodies such as the Regional Greenhouse Gas
Initiative, which provides carbon pricing for a number of states in the
absence of suitable federal climate policy. It appears likely that other
shadow federal departments will take shape.
Mr. Trump says he's sending federal troops to several cities to get a handle
on crime and civil unrest.
The second development was very public, and unfolded live on Tuesday.
Shortly after Secretary of Defence Pete Hegseth told senior generals and
admirals that they should disobey the laws of war and human rights, saying ?we
don?t fight with stupid rules of engagement. We untie the hands of our war
fighters to intimidate, demoralize, hunt and kill the enemies of our country,?
Mr. Trump told them how he wants to deploy this new ethos of inhumanity.
?We?re under invasion from within,? the President declared, referring to a
list of ?blue? (Democratic) cities as his intended targets: ?This is gonna be
a big thing for the people in this room, because it?s the enemy from within,
and we have to handle it before it gets out of control
[American] cities as training grounds for our military.? >>>>>>>>>>>>>
This was not simply Trumpian bluster, because troops have already been told by
the President to deploy in Los Angeles, Chicago, Memphis, Portland and the
District of Columbia, all of them heavily Democratic-voting cities with
sharply declining crime rates.
Mr. Trump claimed these troops are intended to get a handle on out-of-control
crime and civil unrest. However, troops have not generally been ordered to any
cities in the states with the highest crime rates, almost all of which are
Republican-controlled (Memphis is a lone exception). >>>>>>>>>>>>>
To be clear: The places Mr. Trump has declared ?enemies within? and sent
troops to quell are those states and cities that are busy creating shadow
federal agencies to replace governing functions he has destroyed. They are
states and cities governed by what Mr. Trump characterizes as the ?extreme
left,? although they all have quite conventional middle-of-the road
governments. They just don?t vote for him.
These two developments contain the seeds of a United States divided into two
competing federalisms, and even of an eventual secession or civil war. They?re
not anywhere close to that point now, but the ingredients are now in place:
Mr. Trump is acting as if a counter-MAGA federal entity exists, and Democratic
governors are establishing some of the infrastructure that would be used for
the creation of one, if the federal government became permanently >>>>>>>>>>>>> disconnected.
An actual schism would not be triggered unless Mr. Trump managed to manipulate
or seize the democratic system to keep his party in power against the will of
the American people.
But this is also no longer a subject for speculative fiction. Texas recently
passed a bill that dramatically redraws its electoral map to prevent Democrats
from winning Congressional seats, and other ?red? states followed. On Nov. 4,
voters in California will be asked in a referendum to authorize ?temporary
changes to Congressional district maps in response to Texas? partisan
redistricting,? creating a Republican-proof state until 2031. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
Principled Americans are preparing to create parallel voting systems, federal
agencies and protective alliances in case Mr. Trump turns out the lights.
Canada should plan on building links to the institutions of this more
legitimate America, even if it?s not the one that controls Washington.
Doug Saunders
G&M
To the Democrats and to all sane people in the U.S. - For the good of the U.S.
and for the rest of the world, your only option now is to fight back with all
that you have. You won once, you can do it again. And this time the stakes are
so much higher. Organize - and reach out to Canadians (it's our fight too).
Let's see what happens a few months from now when the us still has not
funded its government.
A functional separation might be closer than you think.
needs be
and it looks like it needs to be.
It's taken me a long time and a lot of consideration to get to this point. But
now I'm all in. He needs to be defeated!
and then onto the next fking retard ... it can always get worse, eh? >>>>>>>
Our future is at stake as well - time to get serious.
"Canada needs to consider the possibility that U.S. President Donald Trump
will soon, and without our permission, send American warships into and through
the waterways of the Canadian Arctic archipelago, commonly known as the
Northwest Passage."
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/gift/13a5733c6fa3ca48e7c299defd6b6449e1196cd367a74fe3d7c7b00addb6c66e/LXY3E3R25NHORO7J6VGG2ISZ3U/
a burnt out swe investigating into why our tooling doesn't involve >>>>>>>> basic programmatic considerations like halting analysis.
I can say that my degree in software engineering did not include >>>>>>> halting analysis. There is the concept of acceptable failure though. >>>>>>> For instance when a stop light fails:
red in all directions is acceptable failure.
green in all directions is not. Systems must be included that make >>>>>>> that outcome impossible.
On the other hand, if an airliner crashes into a stop light or nearly >>>>>>> anything else, all bets are off. For example. I'm talking about >>>>>>> catastrophic wide spread disaster.
You might be a clever programmer, but as they used to say, the highest >>>>>>> compliment you can give a programmer is, "It works." Your cleverness >>>>>>> does not extend to anticipating how catastrophic wide spread disaster >>>>>>> might play out. Only god can deal with such improbabilities.
nigga, if the halting problem is correct, then even god couldn't figure >>>>>> out what machines halt or not
Nuff said.
turing was wrong tho
Wiki:
"The test was introduced by Turing in his 1950 paper "Computing
Machinery and Intelligence" while working at the University of
Manchester.[4] It opens with the words: "I propose to consider the
question, 'Can machines think?'" Because "thinking" is difficult to
define, Turing chooses to "replace the question by another, which is
closely related to it and is expressed in relatively unambiguous
words".[5] Turing describes the new form of the problem in terms of a
three-person party game called the "imitation game", in which an
interrogator asks questions of a man and a woman in another room in
order to determine the correct sex of the two players. Turing's new
question is: "Are there imaginable digital computers which would do
well in the imitation game?"[2] This question, Turing believed, was
one that could actually be answered. In the remainder of the paper, he
argued against the major objections to the proposition that "machines
can think".[6]
nigga ur way outa ur league here, and that ain't what i'm talking about
when i say "halting problem"
You mean do I accept your indictment of israel on charges of wtc
nefarious dealing? No I do not. But they do have plenty of other bad
intent to answer for.
Since Turing introduced his test, it has been highly influential in
the philosophy of artificial intelligence, resulting in substantial
discussion and controversy, as well as criticism from philosophers
like John Searle, who argue against the test's ability to detect
consciousness.[7][8]
Since the mid-2020s, several large language models such as ChatGPT
have passed modern, rigorous variants of the Turing test.[9][10][11]"
idgaf bout ur wikislop
So ai has been able to guess the sex of the players in the other room.
The problem I think, is that this question in itself is too narrow to
be a definitive answer to the question.
Can computers think? Can they gather info and from that deduce an
answer to a question? Lately it seems clear that they can do that
much. Even though turing didn't think it possibe.
Are they conscious, are the self aware?
Those are deeper questions not yet approached.
Can computers determine in detail exactly what will happen when a
airliner crashes into a skyscraper? Maybe someday. Maybe much will
they already can.
You let ai write your conspiracy theories? No wonder.
wtc7 did not experience an airplane crash. NIST
literally just pulled a model out of their ass to explain it, and then
never released the model (b/c it obviously was a pile of unusable for
trash anything other than NIST using it to fake a wtc7 explanation)
2 of the most advance finite element analysis models both show that wtc7
required simultaneous failure from all vertical columns to do what it
did ... which fires just can't cause.
oh and no one even explained wtc1/2 initiation either. NIST also just
pulled random unexplained forces out of their assholes to get them to
initiate collapse. wikislop won't tell u that tho.
depend on whether a copier was in use when the airliner arrived, or
something. Or whether air conditioner or heat syetems were active at
the time. Or which direction the wind was blowing from. Or whether
suzie was hiding in a closet lighting a cigarette.
u speak words, but those words don't mean what u think they mean
You mean you don't know what they mean.
On 10/5/25 12:51 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 5 Oct 2025 10:54:41 -0700, dart200
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
On 10/5/25 10:40 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 5 Oct 2025 10:10:36 -0700, dart200
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
On 10/5/25 6:07 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 5 Oct 2025 00:48:55 -0700, dart200
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
On 10/4/25 12:34 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 4 Oct 2025 10:42:22 -0700, dart200
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
On 10/4/25 10:10 AM, Tara wrote:No kidding.
On Oct 4, 2025 at 12:53:50?PM EDT, "Noah Sombrero" <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Sat, 04 Oct 2025 12:45:56 -0400, Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
On Sat, 4 Oct 2025 15:35:37 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca> wrote:
On Oct 4, 2025 at 10:57:50?AM EDT, "Tara" <tsm@fastmail.ca> wrote:
United States may split into warring federal entities. Let?s side with the
better one
U.S. President Donald Trump has deployed federal troops to several cities this
year, including Los Angeles in June.
What if the United States divides into two competing ? and, potentially,
warring ? federal entities? That has now become a sufficiently real
near-future possibility that countries like Canada should plan for it.
Two developments in recent weeks have brought us close to that outcome.
The first received little attention. In September, the Democratic
Party-controlled states of the east and west coasts banded together to create
what is, in effect, their own shadow version of the federal Department of
Health and Human Services, now run by conspiracy theorist Robert F. Kennedy
Jr.
After Mr. Kennedy fired the head of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and
Prevention and effectively ended support for COVID-19 vaccines and for
childhood vaccinations that have been mandatory for half a century, Democratic
states formed the West Coast Health Alliance and the Northeast Public Health
Collaborative to fund health services that are, in the words of California
Governor Gavin Newsom, ?grounded in science, not ideology.? These bodies are
likely to take over increasing functions from HHS in their states, and
eventually to merge.
This marked the latest act of what might be called shadow federalism ? the
creation of multi-state agencies to replace functions that Washington has
abdicated or corrupted under President Donald Trump. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Similar shadow federal bodies include the Reproductive Freedom Alliance,
formed by 23 governors from both parties in 2023 to ensure the provision of
abortion, in-vitro fertilization and other reproductive services in their
states after the Trump-appointed Supreme Court ended federal protections. It
joined existing pseudo-federal bodies such as the Regional Greenhouse Gas
Initiative, which provides carbon pricing for a number of states in the
absence of suitable federal climate policy. It appears likely that other
shadow federal departments will take shape.
Mr. Trump says he's sending federal troops to several cities to get a handle
on crime and civil unrest.
The second development was very public, and unfolded live on Tuesday.
Shortly after Secretary of Defence Pete Hegseth told senior generals and
admirals that they should disobey the laws of war and human rights, saying ?we
don?t fight with stupid rules of engagement. We untie the hands of our war
fighters to intimidate, demoralize, hunt and kill the enemies of our country,?
Mr. Trump told them how he wants to deploy this new ethos of inhumanity.
?We?re under invasion from within,? the President declared, referring to a
list of ?blue? (Democratic) cities as his intended targets: ?This is gonna be
a big thing for the people in this room, because it?s the enemy from within,
and we have to handle it before it gets out of control >>>>>>>>>> we should use some
[American] cities as training grounds for our military.? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
This was not simply Trumpian bluster, because troops have already been told by
the President to deploy in Los Angeles, Chicago, Memphis, Portland and the
District of Columbia, all of them heavily Democratic-voting cities with
sharply declining crime rates.
Mr. Trump claimed these troops are intended to get a handle on out-of-control
crime and civil unrest. However, troops have not generally been ordered to any
cities in the states with the highest crime rates, almost all of which are
Republican-controlled (Memphis is a lone exception). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
To be clear: The places Mr. Trump has declared ?enemies within? and sent
troops to quell are those states and cities that are busy creating shadow
federal agencies to replace governing functions he has destroyed. They are
states and cities governed by what Mr. Trump characterizes as the ?extreme
left,? although they all have quite conventional middle-of-the road
governments. They just don?t vote for him.
These two developments contain the seeds of a United States divided into two
competing federalisms, and even of an eventual secession or civil war. They?re
not anywhere close to that point now, but the ingredients are now in place:
Mr. Trump is acting as if a counter-MAGA federal entity exists, and Democratic
governors are establishing some of the infrastructure that would be used for
the creation of one, if the federal government became permanently
disconnected.
An actual schism would not be triggered unless Mr. Trump managed to manipulate
or seize the democratic system to keep his party in power against the will of
the American people.
But this is also no longer a subject for speculative fiction. Texas recently
passed a bill that dramatically redraws its electoral map to prevent Democrats
from winning Congressional seats, and other ?red? states followed. On Nov. 4,
voters in California will be asked in a referendum to authorize ?temporary
changes to Congressional district maps in response to Texas? partisan
redistricting,? creating a Republican-proof state until 2031. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Principled Americans are preparing to create parallel voting systems, federal
agencies and protective alliances in case Mr. Trump turns out the lights.
Canada should plan on building links to the institutions of this more
legitimate America, even if it?s not the one that controls Washington.
Doug Saunders
G&M
To the Democrats and to all sane people in the U.S. - For the good of the U.S.
and for the rest of the world, your only option now is to fight back with all
that you have. You won once, you can do it again. And this time the stakes are
so much higher. Organize - and reach out to Canadians (it's our fight too).
Let's see what happens a few months from now when the us still has not
funded its government.
A functional separation might be closer than you think.
needs be
and it looks like it needs to be.
It's taken me a long time and a lot of consideration to get to this point. But
now I'm all in. He needs to be defeated!
and then onto the next fking retard ... it can always get worse, eh? >>>>>>>>
Our future is at stake as well - time to get serious. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
"Canada needs to consider the possibility that U.S. President Donald Trump
will soon, and without our permission, send American warships into and through
the waterways of the Canadian Arctic archipelago, commonly known as the
Northwest Passage."
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/gift/13a5733c6fa3ca48e7c299defd6b6449e1196cd367a74fe3d7c7b00addb6c66e/LXY3E3R25NHORO7J6VGG2ISZ3U/
a burnt out swe investigating into why our tooling doesn't involve >>>>>>>>> basic programmatic considerations like halting analysis.
I can say that my degree in software engineering did not include >>>>>>>> halting analysis. There is the concept of acceptable failure though. >>>>>>>> For instance when a stop light fails:
red in all directions is acceptable failure.
green in all directions is not. Systems must be included that make >>>>>>>> that outcome impossible.
On the other hand, if an airliner crashes into a stop light or nearly >>>>>>>> anything else, all bets are off. For example. I'm talking about >>>>>>>> catastrophic wide spread disaster.
You might be a clever programmer, but as they used to say, the highest >>>>>>>> compliment you can give a programmer is, "It works." Your cleverness >>>>>>>> does not extend to anticipating how catastrophic wide spread disaster >>>>>>>> might play out. Only god can deal with such improbabilities.
nigga, if the halting problem is correct, then even god couldn't figure >>>>>>> out what machines halt or not
Nuff said.
turing was wrong tho
Wiki:
"The test was introduced by Turing in his 1950 paper "Computing
Machinery and Intelligence" while working at the University of
Manchester.[4] It opens with the words: "I propose to consider the
question, 'Can machines think?'" Because "thinking" is difficult to
define, Turing chooses to "replace the question by another, which is
closely related to it and is expressed in relatively unambiguous
words".[5] Turing describes the new form of the problem in terms of a
three-person party game called the "imitation game", in which an
interrogator asks questions of a man and a woman in another room in
order to determine the correct sex of the two players. Turing's new
question is: "Are there imaginable digital computers which would do
well in the imitation game?"[2] This question, Turing believed, was
one that could actually be answered. In the remainder of the paper, he >>>> argued against the major objections to the proposition that "machines
can think".[6]
nigga ur way outa ur league here, and that ain't what i'm talking about
when i say "halting problem"
You mean do I accept your indictment of israel on charges of wtc
nefarious dealing? No I do not. But they do have plenty of other bad
intent to answer for.
joos always deflect
Since Turing introduced his test, it has been highly influential in
the philosophy of artificial intelligence, resulting in substantial
discussion and controversy, as well as criticism from philosophers
like John Searle, who argue against the test's ability to detect
consciousness.[7][8]
Since the mid-2020s, several large language models such as ChatGPT
have passed modern, rigorous variants of the Turing test.[9][10][11]"
idgaf bout ur wikislop
So ai has been able to guess the sex of the players in the other room. >>>> The problem I think, is that this question in itself is too narrow to
be a definitive answer to the question.
Can computers think? Can they gather info and from that deduce an
answer to a question? Lately it seems clear that they can do that
much. Even though turing didn't think it possibe.
Are they conscious, are the self aware?
Those are deeper questions not yet approached.
Can computers determine in detail exactly what will happen when a
airliner crashes into a skyscraper? Maybe someday. Maybe much will
they already can.
You let ai write your conspiracy theories? No wonder.
u wish that was just aislop, cause then u could just ignore it
wtc7 did not experience an airplane crash. NIST
literally just pulled a model out of their ass to explain it, and then
never released the model (b/c it obviously was a pile of unusable for
trash anything other than NIST using it to fake a wtc7 explanation)
2 of the most advance finite element analysis models both show that wtc7 >>> required simultaneous failure from all vertical columns to do what it
did ... which fires just can't cause.
oh and no one even explained wtc1/2 initiation either. NIST also just
pulled random unexplained forces out of their assholes to get them to
initiate collapse. wikislop won't tell u that tho.
depend on whether a copier was in use when the airliner arrived, or
something. Or whether air conditioner or heat syetems were active at
the time. Or which direction the wind was blowing from. Or whether
suzie was hiding in a closet lighting a cigarette.
u speak words, but those words don't mean what u think they mean
You mean you don't know what they mean.
no u
On Sun, 5 Oct 2025 17:57:46 -0700, dart200
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
On 10/5/25 12:51 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 5 Oct 2025 10:54:41 -0700, dart200
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
On 10/5/25 10:40 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 5 Oct 2025 10:10:36 -0700, dart200
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
On 10/5/25 6:07 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 5 Oct 2025 00:48:55 -0700, dart200
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
On 10/4/25 12:34 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 4 Oct 2025 10:42:22 -0700, dart200nigga, if the halting problem is correct, then even god couldn't figure
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
On 10/4/25 10:10 AM, Tara wrote:No kidding.
On Oct 4, 2025 at 12:53:50?PM EDT, "Noah Sombrero" <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Sat, 04 Oct 2025 12:45:56 -0400, Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:needs be
On Sat, 4 Oct 2025 15:35:37 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca> wrote:
On Oct 4, 2025 at 10:57:50?AM EDT, "Tara" <tsm@fastmail.ca> wrote:
United States may split into warring federal entities. Let?s side with the
better one
U.S. President Donald Trump has deployed federal troops to several cities this
year, including Los Angeles in June.
What if the United States divides into two competing ? and, potentially,
warring ? federal entities? That has now become a sufficiently real
near-future possibility that countries like Canada should plan for it.
Two developments in recent weeks have brought us close to that outcome.
The first received little attention. In September, the Democratic
Party-controlled states of the east and west coasts banded together to create
what is, in effect, their own shadow version of the federal Department of
Health and Human Services, now run by conspiracy theorist Robert F. Kennedy
Jr.
After Mr. Kennedy fired the head of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and
Prevention and effectively ended support for COVID-19 vaccines and for
childhood vaccinations that have been mandatory for half a century, Democratic
states formed the West Coast Health Alliance and the Northeast Public Health
Collaborative to fund health services that are, in the words of California
Governor Gavin Newsom, ?grounded in science, not ideology.? These bodies are
likely to take over increasing functions from HHS in their states, and
eventually to merge.
This marked the latest act of what might be called shadow federalism ? the
creation of multi-state agencies to replace functions that Washington has
abdicated or corrupted under President Donald Trump. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Similar shadow federal bodies include the Reproductive Freedom Alliance,
formed by 23 governors from both parties in 2023 to ensure the provision of
abortion, in-vitro fertilization and other reproductive services in their
states after the Trump-appointed Supreme Court ended federal protections. It
joined existing pseudo-federal bodies such as the Regional Greenhouse Gas
Initiative, which provides carbon pricing for a number of states in the
absence of suitable federal climate policy. It appears likely that other
shadow federal departments will take shape.
Mr. Trump says he's sending federal troops to several cities to get a handle
on crime and civil unrest.
The second development was very public, and unfolded live on Tuesday.
Shortly after Secretary of Defence Pete Hegseth told senior generals and
admirals that they should disobey the laws of war and human rights, saying ?we
don?t fight with stupid rules of engagement. We untie the hands of our war
fighters to intimidate, demoralize, hunt and kill the enemies of our country,?
Mr. Trump told them how he wants to deploy this new ethos of inhumanity.
?We?re under invasion from within,? the President declared, referring to a
list of ?blue? (Democratic) cities as his intended targets: ?This is gonna be
a big thing for the people in this room, because it?s the enemy from within,
and we have to handle it before it gets out of control >>>>>>>>>>> we should use some
[American] cities as training grounds for our military.? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
This was not simply Trumpian bluster, because troops have already been told by
the President to deploy in Los Angeles, Chicago, Memphis, Portland and the
District of Columbia, all of them heavily Democratic-voting cities with
sharply declining crime rates.
Mr. Trump claimed these troops are intended to get a handle on out-of-control
crime and civil unrest. However, troops have not generally been ordered to any
cities in the states with the highest crime rates, almost all of which are
Republican-controlled (Memphis is a lone exception). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
To be clear: The places Mr. Trump has declared ?enemies within? and sent
troops to quell are those states and cities that are busy creating shadow
federal agencies to replace governing functions he has destroyed. They are
states and cities governed by what Mr. Trump characterizes as the ?extreme
left,? although they all have quite conventional middle-of-the road
governments. They just don?t vote for him.
These two developments contain the seeds of a United States divided into two
competing federalisms, and even of an eventual secession or civil war. They?re
not anywhere close to that point now, but the ingredients are now in place:
Mr. Trump is acting as if a counter-MAGA federal entity exists, and Democratic
governors are establishing some of the infrastructure that would be used for
the creation of one, if the federal government became permanently
disconnected.
An actual schism would not be triggered unless Mr. Trump managed to manipulate
or seize the democratic system to keep his party in power against the will of
the American people.
But this is also no longer a subject for speculative fiction. Texas recently
passed a bill that dramatically redraws its electoral map to prevent Democrats
from winning Congressional seats, and other ?red? states followed. On Nov. 4,
voters in California will be asked in a referendum to authorize ?temporary
changes to Congressional district maps in response to Texas? partisan
redistricting,? creating a Republican-proof state until 2031. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Principled Americans are preparing to create parallel voting systems, federal
agencies and protective alliances in case Mr. Trump turns out the lights.
Canada should plan on building links to the institutions of this more
legitimate America, even if it?s not the one that controls Washington.
Doug Saunders
G&M
To the Democrats and to all sane people in the U.S. - For the good of the U.S.
and for the rest of the world, your only option now is to fight back with all
that you have. You won once, you can do it again. And this time the stakes are
so much higher. Organize - and reach out to Canadians (it's our fight too).
Let's see what happens a few months from now when the us still has not
funded its government.
A functional separation might be closer than you think. >>>>>>>>>>>
and it looks like it needs to be.
It's taken me a long time and a lot of consideration to get to this point. But
now I'm all in. He needs to be defeated!
and then onto the next fking retard ... it can always get worse, eh? >>>>>>>>>
Our future is at stake as well - time to get serious. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
"Canada needs to consider the possibility that U.S. President Donald Trump
will soon, and without our permission, send American warships into and through
the waterways of the Canadian Arctic archipelago, commonly known as the
Northwest Passage."
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/gift/13a5733c6fa3ca48e7c299defd6b6449e1196cd367a74fe3d7c7b00addb6c66e/LXY3E3R25NHORO7J6VGG2ISZ3U/
a burnt out swe investigating into why our tooling doesn't involve >>>>>>>>>> basic programmatic considerations like halting analysis.
I can say that my degree in software engineering did not include >>>>>>>>> halting analysis. There is the concept of acceptable failure though. >>>>>>>>> For instance when a stop light fails:
red in all directions is acceptable failure.
green in all directions is not. Systems must be included that make >>>>>>>>> that outcome impossible.
On the other hand, if an airliner crashes into a stop light or nearly >>>>>>>>> anything else, all bets are off. For example. I'm talking about >>>>>>>>> catastrophic wide spread disaster.
You might be a clever programmer, but as they used to say, the highest
compliment you can give a programmer is, "It works." Your cleverness >>>>>>>>> does not extend to anticipating how catastrophic wide spread disaster >>>>>>>>> might play out. Only god can deal with such improbabilities. >>>>>>>>
out what machines halt or not
Nuff said.
turing was wrong tho
Wiki:
"The test was introduced by Turing in his 1950 paper "Computing
Machinery and Intelligence" while working at the University of
Manchester.[4] It opens with the words: "I propose to consider the
question, 'Can machines think?'" Because "thinking" is difficult to
define, Turing chooses to "replace the question by another, which is >>>>> closely related to it and is expressed in relatively unambiguous
words".[5] Turing describes the new form of the problem in terms of a >>>>> three-person party game called the "imitation game", in which an
interrogator asks questions of a man and a woman in another room in
order to determine the correct sex of the two players. Turing's new
question is: "Are there imaginable digital computers which would do
well in the imitation game?"[2] This question, Turing believed, was
one that could actually be answered. In the remainder of the paper, he >>>>> argued against the major objections to the proposition that "machines >>>>> can think".[6]
nigga ur way outa ur league here, and that ain't what i'm talking about >>>> when i say "halting problem"
You mean do I accept your indictment of israel on charges of wtc
nefarious dealing? No I do not. But they do have plenty of other bad
intent to answer for.
joos always deflect
idgaf bout ur wikislop
Since Turing introduced his test, it has been highly influential in
the philosophy of artificial intelligence, resulting in substantial
discussion and controversy, as well as criticism from philosophers
like John Searle, who argue against the test's ability to detect
consciousness.[7][8]
Since the mid-2020s, several large language models such as ChatGPT
have passed modern, rigorous variants of the Turing test.[9][10][11]" >>>>
So ai has been able to guess the sex of the players in the other room. >>>>> The problem I think, is that this question in itself is too narrow to >>>>> be a definitive answer to the question.
Can computers think? Can they gather info and from that deduce an
answer to a question? Lately it seems clear that they can do that
much. Even though turing didn't think it possibe.
Are they conscious, are the self aware?
Those are deeper questions not yet approached.
Can computers determine in detail exactly what will happen when a
airliner crashes into a skyscraper? Maybe someday. Maybe much will
they already can.
You let ai write your conspiracy theories? No wonder.
u wish that was just aislop, cause then u could just ignore it
I can ignore whatever I please.
wtc7 did not experience an airplane crash. NIST
literally just pulled a model out of their ass to explain it, and then >>>> never released the model (b/c it obviously was a pile of unusable for
trash anything other than NIST using it to fake a wtc7 explanation)
2 of the most advance finite element analysis models both show that wtc7 >>>> required simultaneous failure from all vertical columns to do what it
did ... which fires just can't cause.
oh and no one even explained wtc1/2 initiation either. NIST also just
pulled random unexplained forces out of their assholes to get them to
initiate collapse. wikislop won't tell u that tho.
depend on whether a copier was in use when the airliner arrived, or
something. Or whether air conditioner or heat syetems were active at >>>>> the time. Or which direction the wind was blowing from. Or whether >>>>> suzie was hiding in a closet lighting a cigarette.
u speak words, but those words don't mean what u think they mean
You mean you don't know what they mean.
no u
That shit hasn't worked since the 3rd grade.
nigga,
On Sun, 5 Oct 2025 00:48:55 -0700, dart200 wrote:
nigga,
I hadn't figured you to be a dirty-mouthed troll.
Maybe you should lurk for a while before wading in
and (trying to) throw your weight around.
On 10/5/25 10:26 PM, Creon wrote:
On Sun, 5 Oct 2025 00:48:55 -0700, dart200 wrote:
nigga,
I hadn't figured you to be a dirty-mouthed troll.
Maybe you should lurk for a while before wading in
and (trying to) throw your weight around.
nigga as a free-speech enthusiast i reserve my right,
feel free to "kill-list" me, but why in #god's name to you spend ur time here if that's what ur all about?
literally all the other forums on the planet have been moderated to
oblivion ...
i'm fucking dying for a forum that doesn't exist yet, so i don't have
time for lurking
i also don't have time for trolling,
reality is fucking retarded enough just being honest and truthful about
how deep that idiocracy goes is enough to melt people's brains
On 10/5/25 10:26 PM, Creon wrote:Hardly any Usenet fora are moderated.
On Sun, 5 Oct 2025 00:48:55 -0700, dart200 wrote:
nigga,
I hadn't figured you to be a dirty-mouthed troll.
Maybe you should lurk for a while before wading in
and (trying to) throw your weight around.
nigga as a free-speech enthusiast i reserve my right,
feel free to "kill-list" me, but why in #god's name to you spend ur time here if that's what ur all about?
literally all the other forums on the planet have been moderated to
oblivion ...
On 06/10/2025 06:37, dart200 wrote:
On 10/5/25 10:26 PM, Creon wrote:Hardly any Usenet fora are moderated.
On Sun, 5 Oct 2025 00:48:55 -0700, dart200 wrote:
nigga,
I hadn't figured you to be a dirty-mouthed troll.
Maybe you should lurk for a while before wading in
and (trying to) throw your weight around.
nigga as a free-speech enthusiast i reserve my right,
feel free to "kill-list" me, but why in #god's name to you spend ur time
here if that's what ur all about?
literally all the other forums on the planet have been moderated to
oblivion ...
On Oct 6, 2025 at 8:20:21rC>AM EDT, "Julian" <julianlzb87@gmail.com> wrote:
On 06/10/2025 06:37, dart200 wrote:
On 10/5/25 10:26 PM, Creon wrote:Hardly any Usenet fora are moderated.
On Sun, 5 Oct 2025 00:48:55 -0700, dart200 wrote:
nigga,
I hadn't figured you to be a dirty-mouthed troll.
Maybe you should lurk for a while before wading in
and (trying to) throw your weight around.
nigga as a free-speech enthusiast i reserve my right,
feel free to "kill-list" me, but why in #god's name to you spend ur time >>> here if that's what ur all about?
literally all the other forums on the planet have been moderated to
oblivion ...
https://www.newshosting.com/usenet/is-usenet-dead/#:~:text=Usenet%20is%20still%20actively%20used,private%2C%20censorship%2Dresistant%20discussion.
On 06/10/2025 06:37, dart200 wrote:
On 10/5/25 10:26 PM, Creon wrote:Hardly any Usenet fora are moderated.
On Sun, 5 Oct 2025 00:48:55 -0700, dart200 wrote:
nigga,
I hadn't figured you to be a dirty-mouthed troll.
Maybe you should lurk for a while before wading in
and (trying to) throw your weight around.
nigga as a free-speech enthusiast i reserve my right,
feel free to "kill-list" me, but why in #god's name to you spend ur time
here if that's what ur all about?
literally all the other forums on the planet have been moderated to
oblivion ...
On Mon, 6 Oct 2025 13:20:21 +0100, Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com>
wrote:
On 06/10/2025 06:37, dart200 wrote:
On 10/5/25 10:26 PM, Creon wrote:Hardly any Usenet fora are moderated.
On Sun, 5 Oct 2025 00:48:55 -0700, dart200 wrote:
nigga,
I hadn't figured you to be a dirty-mouthed troll.
Maybe you should lurk for a while before wading in
and (trying to) throw your weight around.
nigga as a free-speech enthusiast i reserve my right,
feel free to "kill-list" me, but why in #god's name to you spend ur time >>> here if that's what ur all about?
literally all the other forums on the planet have been moderated to
oblivion ...
I'm impressed. Julian knows the neuter plural of latin words.
Nominative case.
In the old days, you could start a forum and moderate it. There were
a few around. I would imagine, you could take over an abandoned
forum, start talking and moderate it.
Just think, nick, you could require that all participants address each
other as nigga and say fuck in every post.
As for me, only don't call me late for dinner.
It is true though, only blacks are allowed to call each other nigga
according to black etiquette.
Free speech does not give you the right to be offensive and not have
people treat you as if you were offensive. We have the right to be
offended and to express that.
A moderated forum is not about denying you free speech. It is about
talking about a certain topic (like studebaker pickup carburetors). If
you happen to have such a device, you could go there and be sure to
get help making it work. Useful, but not a place to discuss zen, for instance.
Moderated fora are meant to be useful; it has nothing to do with free
speech. Unmoderated fora are chaos. As this one is. Chaos can be
beautiful or not, your choice. Be the change you want to have.
At one time people here talked about the short fat guy. Those days
are long gone. Chaos has set in, so we mostly talk about politics, to
our utter shame. Politics is not beautiful.
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Mon, 6 Oct 2025 13:20:21 +0100, Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com>
wrote:
On 06/10/2025 06:37, dart200 wrote:
On 10/5/25 10:26 PM, Creon wrote:Hardly any Usenet fora are moderated.
On Sun, 5 Oct 2025 00:48:55 -0700, dart200 wrote:
nigga,
I hadn't figured you to be a dirty-mouthed troll.
Maybe you should lurk for a while before wading in
and (trying to) throw your weight around.
nigga as a free-speech enthusiast i reserve my right,
feel free to "kill-list" me, but why in #god's name to you spend ur time >>>> here if that's what ur all about?
literally all the other forums on the planet have been moderated to
oblivion ...
I'm impressed. Julian knows the neuter plural of latin words.
Nominative case.
In the old days, you could start a forum and moderate it. There were
a few around. I would imagine, you could take over an abandoned
forum, start talking and moderate it.
Just think, nick, you could require that all participants address each
other as nigga and say fuck in every post.
As for me, only don't call me late for dinner.
It is true though, only blacks are allowed to call each other nigga
according to black etiquette.
Free speech does not give you the right to be offensive and not have
people treat you as if you were offensive. We have the right to be
offended and to express that.
A moderated forum is not about denying you free speech. It is about
talking about a certain topic (like studebaker pickup carburetors). If
you happen to have such a device, you could go there and be sure to
get help making it work. Useful, but not a place to discuss zen, for
instance.
Moderated fora are meant to be useful; it has nothing to do with free
speech. Unmoderated fora are chaos. As this one is. Chaos can be
beautiful or not, your choice. Be the change you want to have.
At one time people here talked about the short fat guy. Those days
are long gone. Chaos has set in, so we mostly talk about politics, to
our utter shame. Politics is not beautiful.
Chaos? Wherzat?
On Mon, 6 Oct 2025 13:20:21 +0100, Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com>
wrote:
On 06/10/2025 06:37, dart200 wrote:
On 10/5/25 10:26 PM, Creon wrote:Hardly any Usenet fora are moderated.
On Sun, 5 Oct 2025 00:48:55 -0700, dart200 wrote:
nigga,
I hadn't figured you to be a dirty-mouthed troll.
Maybe you should lurk for a while before wading in
and (trying to) throw your weight around.
nigga as a free-speech enthusiast i reserve my right,
feel free to "kill-list" me, but why in #god's name to you spend ur time >>> here if that's what ur all about?
literally all the other forums on the planet have been moderated to
oblivion ...
I'm impressed. Julian knows the neuter plural of latin words.
Nominative case.
In the old days, you could start a forum and moderate it. There were
a few around. I would imagine, you could take over an abandoned
forum, start talking and moderate it.
Just think, nick, you could require that all participants address each
other as nigga and say fuck in every post.
As for me, only don't call me late for dinner.
It is true though, only blacks are allowed to call each other nigga
according to black etiquette.
Free speech does not give you the right to be offensive and not have
people treat you as if you were offensive. We have the right to be
offended and to express that.
A moderated forum is not about denying you free speech. It is about
talking about a certain topic (like studebaker pickup carburetors). If
you happen to have such a device, you could go there and be sure to
get help making it work. Useful, but not a place to discuss zen, for instance.
Moderated fora are meant to be useful; it has nothing to do with free
speech. Unmoderated fora are chaos. As this one is. Chaos can be
beautiful or not, your choice. Be the change you want to have.
At one time people here talked about the short fat guy. Those days
are long gone. Chaos has set in, so we mostly talk about politics, to
our utter shame. Politics is not beautiful.
On 10/6/25 6:52 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Mon, 6 Oct 2025 13:20:21 +0100, Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com>
wrote:
On 06/10/2025 06:37, dart200 wrote:
On 10/5/25 10:26 PM, Creon wrote:Hardly any Usenet fora are moderated.
On Sun, 5 Oct 2025 00:48:55 -0700, dart200 wrote:
nigga,
I hadn't figured you to be a dirty-mouthed troll.
Maybe you should lurk for a while before wading in
and (trying to) throw your weight around.
nigga as a free-speech enthusiast i reserve my right,
feel free to "kill-list" me, but why in #god's name to you spend ur time >>>> here if that's what ur all about?
literally all the other forums on the planet have been moderated to
oblivion ...
I'm impressed. Julian knows the neuter plural of latin words.
Nominative case.
In the old days, you could start a forum and moderate it. There were
a few around. I would imagine, you could take over an abandoned
forum, start talking and moderate it.
Just think, nick, you could require that all participants address each
other as nigga and say fuck in every post.
As for me, only don't call me late for dinner.
It is true though, only blacks are allowed to call each other nigga
according to black etiquette.
i just don't care tbh.
regardless of the tone they use, i just can't respect anyone who accepts
the wikislop that 47 story building can just collapse at free-fall into >their footprint over an office fire on a few floors.
i get that capitalism is optics obsessed, but truth got buried under the >moronic game of who's got the best optics, and we can't build a
sustainable society on top of utter fucking nonsense no matter how nice
it sounds.
Free speech does not give you the right to be offensive and not have
people treat you as if you were offensive. We have the right to be
offended and to express that.
"Take your musings elsewhere if you might be harmed by your own taking
of mere words on the screen"
A moderated forum is not about denying you free speech. It is about
talking about a certain topic (like studebaker pickup carburetors). If
you happen to have such a device, you could go there and be sure to
get help making it work. Useful, but not a place to discuss zen, for
instance.
Moderated fora are meant to be useful; it has nothing to do with free
speech. Unmoderated fora are chaos. As this one is. Chaos can be
beautiful or not, your choice. Be the change you want to have.
At one time people here talked about the short fat guy. Those days
are long gone. Chaos has set in, so we mostly talk about politics, to
our utter shame. Politics is not beautiful.
politics could be beautiful if we focused on truth over optics
On Mon, 6 Oct 2025 09:29:38 -0700, dart200
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
On 10/6/25 6:52 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Mon, 6 Oct 2025 13:20:21 +0100, Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com>
wrote:
On 06/10/2025 06:37, dart200 wrote:
On 10/5/25 10:26 PM, Creon wrote:Hardly any Usenet fora are moderated.
On Sun, 5 Oct 2025 00:48:55 -0700, dart200 wrote:
nigga,
I hadn't figured you to be a dirty-mouthed troll.
Maybe you should lurk for a while before wading in
and (trying to) throw your weight around.
nigga as a free-speech enthusiast i reserve my right,
feel free to "kill-list" me, but why in #god's name to you spend ur time >>>>> here if that's what ur all about?
literally all the other forums on the planet have been moderated to
oblivion ...
I'm impressed. Julian knows the neuter plural of latin words.
Nominative case.
In the old days, you could start a forum and moderate it. There were
a few around. I would imagine, you could take over an abandoned
forum, start talking and moderate it.
Just think, nick, you could require that all participants address each
other as nigga and say fuck in every post.
As for me, only don't call me late for dinner.
It is true though, only blacks are allowed to call each other nigga
according to black etiquette.
i just don't care tbh.
regardless of the tone they use, i just can't respect anyone who accepts
the wikislop that 47 story building can just collapse at free-fall into
their footprint over an office fire on a few floors.
I might be a little more receptive, but not much, if you gave up
trying to pin the whole thing on the israelis. But in the end the
whole thing is ancient history and should be respectfully returned to
its grave.
i get that capitalism is optics obsessed, but truth got buried under the
moronic game of who's got the best optics, and we can't build a
sustainable society on top of utter fucking nonsense no matter how nice
it sounds.
Free speech does not give you the right to be offensive and not have
people treat you as if you were offensive. We have the right to be
offended and to express that.
"Take your musings elsewhere if you might be harmed by your own taking
of mere words on the screen"
I certainly was not talking about me. But I was talking about you.
Free speech does not license you to be as offensive as you please and
receive no push back from offended parties.
--
A moderated forum is not about denying you free speech. It is about
talking about a certain topic (like studebaker pickup carburetors). If
you happen to have such a device, you could go there and be sure to
get help making it work. Useful, but not a place to discuss zen, for
instance.
Moderated fora are meant to be useful; it has nothing to do with free
speech. Unmoderated fora are chaos. As this one is. Chaos can be
beautiful or not, your choice. Be the change you want to have.
At one time people here talked about the short fat guy. Those days
are long gone. Chaos has set in, so we mostly talk about politics, to
our utter shame. Politics is not beautiful.
politics could be beautiful if we focused on truth over optics
Optics being in the eye of the beholder. Enter ugliness.
On 10/6/25 10:56 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Mon, 6 Oct 2025 09:29:38 -0700, dart200
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
On 10/6/25 6:52 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Mon, 6 Oct 2025 13:20:21 +0100, Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com>
wrote:
On 06/10/2025 06:37, dart200 wrote:
On 10/5/25 10:26 PM, Creon wrote:Hardly any Usenet fora are moderated.
On Sun, 5 Oct 2025 00:48:55 -0700, dart200 wrote:
nigga,
I hadn't figured you to be a dirty-mouthed troll.
Maybe you should lurk for a while before wading in
and (trying to) throw your weight around.
nigga as a free-speech enthusiast i reserve my right,
feel free to "kill-list" me, but why in #god's name to you spend ur time >>>>>> here if that's what ur all about?
literally all the other forums on the planet have been moderated to >>>>>> oblivion ...
I'm impressed. Julian knows the neuter plural of latin words.
Nominative case.
In the old days, you could start a forum and moderate it. There were
a few around. I would imagine, you could take over an abandoned
forum, start talking and moderate it.
Just think, nick, you could require that all participants address each >>>> other as nigga and say fuck in every post.
As for me, only don't call me late for dinner.
It is true though, only blacks are allowed to call each other nigga
according to black etiquette.
i just don't care tbh.
regardless of the tone they use, i just can't respect anyone who accepts >>> the wikislop that 47 story building can just collapse at free-fall into
their footprint over an office fire on a few floors.
I might be a little more receptive, but not much, if you gave up
trying to pin the whole thing on the israelis. But in the end the
there's no one else with either the connections or motive to pull it off
whole thing is ancient history and should be respectfully returned to
its grave.
there's no statue of limitations on unsolved murders just cause the
reality is political inconvenient???
fucking boomers man...
i get that capitalism is optics obsessed, but truth got buried under the >>> moronic game of who's got the best optics, and we can't build a
sustainable society on top of utter fucking nonsense no matter how nice
it sounds.
Free speech does not give you the right to be offensive and not have
people treat you as if you were offensive. We have the right to be
offended and to express that.
"Take your musings elsewhere if you might be harmed by your own taking
of mere words on the screen"
I certainly was not talking about me. But I was talking about you.
Free speech does not license you to be as offensive as you please and
receive no push back from offended parties.
it's pretty retarded to blame others for your own taking of mere words
on the screen
--
A moderated forum is not about denying you free speech. It is about
talking about a certain topic (like studebaker pickup carburetors). If >>>> you happen to have such a device, you could go there and be sure to
get help making it work. Useful, but not a place to discuss zen, for
instance.
Moderated fora are meant to be useful; it has nothing to do with free
speech. Unmoderated fora are chaos. As this one is. Chaos can be
beautiful or not, your choice. Be the change you want to have.
At one time people here talked about the short fat guy. Those days
are long gone. Chaos has set in, so we mostly talk about politics, to >>>> our utter shame. Politics is not beautiful.
politics could be beautiful if we focused on truth over optics
Optics being in the eye of the beholder. Enter ugliness.
On 10/6/25 10:56 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Mon, 6 Oct 2025 09:29:38 -0700, dart200
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
On 10/6/25 6:52 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Mon, 6 Oct 2025 13:20:21 +0100, Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com>
wrote:
On 06/10/2025 06:37, dart200 wrote:
On 10/5/25 10:26 PM, Creon wrote:Hardly any Usenet fora are moderated.
On Sun, 5 Oct 2025 00:48:55 -0700, dart200 wrote:
nigga,
I hadn't figured you to be a dirty-mouthed troll.
Maybe you should lurk for a while before wading in
and (trying to) throw your weight around.
nigga as a free-speech enthusiast i reserve my right,
feel free to "kill-list" me, but why in #god's name to you spend
ur time
here if that's what ur all about?
literally all the other forums on the planet have been moderated to >>>>>> oblivion ...
I'm impressed.-a Julian knows the neuter plural of latin words.
Nominative case.
In the old days, you could start a forum and moderate it.-a There were >>>> a few around.-a I would imagine, you could take over an abandoned
forum, start talking and moderate it.
Just think, nick, you could require that all participants address each >>>> other as nigga and say fuck in every post.
As for me, only don't call me late for dinner.
It is true though, only blacks are allowed to call each other nigga
according to black etiquette.
i just don't care tbh.
regardless of the tone they use, i just can't respect anyone who accepts >>> the wikislop that 47 story building can just collapse at free-fall into
their footprint over an office fire on a few floors.
I might be a little more receptive, but not much, if you gave up
trying to pin the whole thing on the israelis.-a But in the end the
there's no one else with either the connections or motive to pull it off
whole thing is ancient history and should be respectfully returned to
its grave.
there's no statue of limitations on unsolved murders just cause the
reality is political inconvenient???
fucking boomers man...
i get that capitalism is optics obsessed, but truth got buried under the >>> moronic game of who's got the best optics, and we can't build a
sustainable society on top of utter fucking nonsense no matter how nice
it sounds.
Free speech does not give you the right to be offensive and not have
people treat you as if you were offensive.-a We have the right to be
offended and to express that.
"Take your musings elsewhere if you might be harmed by your own taking
of mere words on the screen"
I certainly was not talking about me.-a But I was talking about you.
Free speech does not license you to be as offensive as you please and
receive no push back from offended parties.
it's pretty retarded to blame others for your own taking of mere words
on the screen
.
A moderated forum is not about denying you free speech.-a It is about
talking about a certain topic (like studebaker pickup carburetors). If >>>> you happen to have such a device, you could go there and be sure to
get help making it work.-a Useful, but not a place to discuss zen, for >>>> instance.
Moderated fora are meant to be useful; it has nothing to do with free
speech.-a Unmoderated fora are chaos.-a As this one is.-a Chaos can be >>>> beautiful or not, your choice.-a Be the change you want to have.
At one time people here talked about the short fat guy.-a Those days
are long gone.-a Chaos has set in, so we mostly talk about politics, to >>>> our utter shame.-a Politics is not beautiful.
politics could be beautiful if we focused on truth over optics
Optics being in the eye of the beholder.-a Enter ugliness.
On 10/6/2025 11:14 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 10/6/25 10:56 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:Apparently, this group is been moderated now. Good work, Creaon!
On Mon, 6 Oct 2025 09:29:38 -0700, dart200
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
On 10/6/25 6:52 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Mon, 6 Oct 2025 13:20:21 +0100, Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com>
wrote:
On 06/10/2025 06:37, dart200 wrote:
On 10/5/25 10:26 PM, Creon wrote:Hardly any Usenet fora are moderated.
On Sun, 5 Oct 2025 00:48:55 -0700, dart200 wrote:
nigga,
I hadn't figured you to be a dirty-mouthed troll.
Maybe you should lurk for a while before wading in
and (trying to) throw your weight around.
nigga as a free-speech enthusiast i reserve my right,
feel free to "kill-list" me, but why in #god's name to you spend >>>>>>> ur time
here if that's what ur all about?
literally all the other forums on the planet have been moderated to >>>>>>> oblivion ...
I'm impressed.a Julian knows the neuter plural of latin words.
Nominative case.
In the old days, you could start a forum and moderate it.a There were >>>>> a few around.a I would imagine, you could take over an abandoned
forum, start talking and moderate it.
Just think, nick, you could require that all participants address each >>>>> other as nigga and say fuck in every post.
As for me, only don't call me late for dinner.
It is true though, only blacks are allowed to call each other nigga
according to black etiquette.
i just don't care tbh.
regardless of the tone they use, i just can't respect anyone who accepts >>>> the wikislop that 47 story building can just collapse at free-fall into >>>> their footprint over an office fire on a few floors.
I might be a little more receptive, but not much, if you gave up
trying to pin the whole thing on the israelis.a But in the end the
there's no one else with either the connections or motive to pull it off
whole thing is ancient history and should be respectfully returned to
its grave.
there's no statue of limitations on unsolved murders just cause the
reality is political inconvenient???
fucking boomers man...
i get that capitalism is optics obsessed, but truth got buried under the >>>> moronic game of who's got the best optics, and we can't build a
sustainable society on top of utter fucking nonsense no matter how nice >>>> it sounds.
Free speech does not give you the right to be offensive and not have >>>>> people treat you as if you were offensive.a We have the right to be
offended and to express that.
"Take your musings elsewhere if you might be harmed by your own taking >>>> of mere words on the screen"
I certainly was not talking about me.a But I was talking about you.
Free speech does not license you to be as offensive as you please and
receive no push back from offended parties.
it's pretty retarded to blame others for your own taking of mere words
on the screen
--
A moderated forum is not about denying you free speech.a It is about >>>>> talking about a certain topic (like studebaker pickup carburetors). If >>>>> you happen to have such a device, you could go there and be sure to
get help making it work.a Useful, but not a place to discuss zen, for >>>>> instance.
Moderated fora are meant to be useful; it has nothing to do with free >>>>> speech.a Unmoderated fora are chaos.a As this one is.a Chaos can be
beautiful or not, your choice.a Be the change you want to have.
At one time people here talked about the short fat guy.a Those days
are long gone.a Chaos has set in, so we mostly talk about politics, to >>>>> our utter shame.a Politics is not beautiful.
politics could be beautiful if we focused on truth over optics
Optics being in the eye of the beholder.a Enter ugliness.
On Mon, 6 Oct 2025 11:25:31 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 10/6/2025 11:14 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 10/6/25 10:56 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:Apparently, this group is been moderated now. Good work, Creaon!
On Mon, 6 Oct 2025 09:29:38 -0700, dart200
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
On 10/6/25 6:52 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Mon, 6 Oct 2025 13:20:21 +0100, Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com>
wrote:
On 06/10/2025 06:37, dart200 wrote:
On 10/5/25 10:26 PM, Creon wrote:Hardly any Usenet fora are moderated.
On Sun, 5 Oct 2025 00:48:55 -0700, dart200 wrote:
nigga,
I hadn't figured you to be a dirty-mouthed troll.
Maybe you should lurk for a while before wading in
and (trying to) throw your weight around.
nigga as a free-speech enthusiast i reserve my right,
feel free to "kill-list" me, but why in #god's name to you spend >>>>>>>> ur time
here if that's what ur all about?
literally all the other forums on the planet have been moderated to >>>>>>>> oblivion ...
I'm impressed.-a Julian knows the neuter plural of latin words.
Nominative case.
In the old days, you could start a forum and moderate it.-a There were >>>>>> a few around.-a I would imagine, you could take over an abandoned
forum, start talking and moderate it.
Just think, nick, you could require that all participants address each >>>>>> other as nigga and say fuck in every post.
As for me, only don't call me late for dinner.
It is true though, only blacks are allowed to call each other nigga >>>>>> according to black etiquette.
i just don't care tbh.
regardless of the tone they use, i just can't respect anyone who accepts >>>>> the wikislop that 47 story building can just collapse at free-fall into >>>>> their footprint over an office fire on a few floors.
I might be a little more receptive, but not much, if you gave up
trying to pin the whole thing on the israelis.-a But in the end the
there's no one else with either the connections or motive to pull it off >>>
whole thing is ancient history and should be respectfully returned to
its grave.
there's no statue of limitations on unsolved murders just cause the
reality is political inconvenient???
fucking boomers man...
i get that capitalism is optics obsessed, but truth got buried under the >>>>> moronic game of who's got the best optics, and we can't build a
sustainable society on top of utter fucking nonsense no matter how nice >>>>> it sounds.
Free speech does not give you the right to be offensive and not have >>>>>> people treat you as if you were offensive.-a We have the right to be >>>>>> offended and to express that.
"Take your musings elsewhere if you might be harmed by your own taking >>>>> of mere words on the screen"
I certainly was not talking about me.-a But I was talking about you.
Free speech does not license you to be as offensive as you please and
receive no push back from offended parties.
it's pretty retarded to blame others for your own taking of mere words
on the screen
I haven't felt creon affecting my ability to say what I want to say.
It looks to me like you are ok too.
Shirley, it looks to me like creon has been no where near this
discussion.
A moderated forum is not about denying you free speech.-a It is about >>>>>> talking about a certain topic (like studebaker pickup carburetors). If >>>>>> you happen to have such a device, you could go there and be sure to >>>>>> get help making it work.-a Useful, but not a place to discuss zen, for >>>>>> instance.
Moderated fora are meant to be useful; it has nothing to do with free >>>>>> speech.-a Unmoderated fora are chaos.-a As this one is.-a Chaos can be >>>>>> beautiful or not, your choice.-a Be the change you want to have.
At one time people here talked about the short fat guy.-a Those days >>>>>> are long gone.-a Chaos has set in, so we mostly talk about politics, to >>>>>> our utter shame.-a Politics is not beautiful.
politics could be beautiful if we focused on truth over optics
Optics being in the eye of the beholder.-a Enter ugliness.
On 10/6/2025 11:31 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Mon, 6 Oct 2025 11:25:31 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:Obviously, Ned is the moderator now.
On 10/6/2025 11:14 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 10/6/25 10:56 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:Apparently, this group is been moderated now. Good work, Creaon!
On Mon, 6 Oct 2025 09:29:38 -0700, dart200
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
On 10/6/25 6:52 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Mon, 6 Oct 2025 13:20:21 +0100, Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote:
On 06/10/2025 06:37, dart200 wrote:
On 10/5/25 10:26 PM, Creon wrote:Hardly any Usenet fora are moderated.
On Sun, 5 Oct 2025 00:48:55 -0700, dart200 wrote:
nigga,
I hadn't figured you to be a dirty-mouthed troll.
Maybe you should lurk for a while before wading in
and (trying to) throw your weight around.
nigga as a free-speech enthusiast i reserve my right,
feel free to "kill-list" me, but why in #god's name to you spend >>>>>>>>> ur time
here if that's what ur all about?
literally all the other forums on the planet have been
moderated to
oblivion ...
I'm impressed.-a Julian knows the neuter plural of latin words.
Nominative case.
In the old days, you could start a forum and moderate it.-a There >>>>>>> were
a few around.-a I would imagine, you could take over an abandoned >>>>>>> forum, start talking and moderate it.
Just think, nick, you could require that all participants address >>>>>>> each
other as nigga and say fuck in every post.
As for me, only don't call me late for dinner.
It is true though, only blacks are allowed to call each other nigga >>>>>>> according to black etiquette.
i just don't care tbh.
regardless of the tone they use, i just can't respect anyone who
accepts
the wikislop that 47 story building can just collapse at free-fall >>>>>> into
their footprint over an office fire on a few floors.
I might be a little more receptive, but not much, if you gave up
trying to pin the whole thing on the israelis.-a But in the end the
there's no one else with either the connections or motive to pull it
off
whole thing is ancient history and should be respectfully returned to >>>>> its grave.
there's no statue of limitations on unsolved murders just cause the
reality is political inconvenient???
fucking boomers man...
i get that capitalism is optics obsessed, but truth got buried
under the
moronic game of who's got the best optics, and we can't build a
sustainable society on top of utter fucking nonsense no matter how >>>>>> nice
it sounds.
Free speech does not give you the right to be offensive and not have >>>>>>> people treat you as if you were offensive.-a We have the right to be >>>>>>> offended and to express that.
"Take your musings elsewhere if you might be harmed by your own
taking
of mere words on the screen"
I certainly was not talking about me.-a But I was talking about you. >>>>> Free speech does not license you to be as offensive as you please and >>>>> receive no push back from offended parties.
it's pretty retarded to blame others for your own taking of mere words >>>> on the screen
I haven't felt creon affecting my ability to say what I want to say.
It looks to me like you are ok too.
He banned me from posting to the group and apparently, won't even talk
with you for some reason. Face it Pal, there's no one here to engage!
Reminds me of a nursing home where some of the inmates act like you're
not even there when everyone gathers around the dinner table, although you've been there for over a decade. Weird.
Until you realize half of the inmates are anti-social or senile, or just plain crazy, or a troll. YMMV.
Shirley, it looks to me like creon has been no where near thisThat's called lurking or a pinch hitter. Key words: discussion, contribute.
discussion.
A moderated forum is not about denying you free speech.-a It is about >>>>>>> talking about a certain topic (like studebaker pickup
carburetors). If
you happen to have such a device, you could go there and be sure to >>>>>>> get help making it work.-a Useful, but not a place to discuss zen, >>>>>>> for
instance.
Moderated fora are meant to be useful; it has nothing to do with >>>>>>> free
speech.-a Unmoderated fora are chaos.-a As this one is.-a Chaos can be >>>>>>> beautiful or not, your choice.-a Be the change you want to have. >>>>>>>
At one time people here talked about the short fat guy.-a Those days >>>>>>> are long gone.-a Chaos has set in, so we mostly talk about
politics, to
our utter shame.-a Politics is not beautiful.
politics could be beautiful if we focused on truth over optics
Optics being in the eye of the beholder.-a Enter ugliness.
On Mon, 6 Oct 2025 11:14:36 -0700, dart200
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
On 10/6/25 10:56 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Mon, 6 Oct 2025 09:29:38 -0700, dart200
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
On 10/6/25 6:52 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Mon, 6 Oct 2025 13:20:21 +0100, Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com>
wrote:
On 06/10/2025 06:37, dart200 wrote:
On 10/5/25 10:26 PM, Creon wrote:Hardly any Usenet fora are moderated.
On Sun, 5 Oct 2025 00:48:55 -0700, dart200 wrote:
nigga,
I hadn't figured you to be a dirty-mouthed troll.
Maybe you should lurk for a while before wading in
and (trying to) throw your weight around.
nigga as a free-speech enthusiast i reserve my right,
feel free to "kill-list" me, but why in #god's name to you spend ur time
here if that's what ur all about?
literally all the other forums on the planet have been moderated to >>>>>>> oblivion ...
I'm impressed. Julian knows the neuter plural of latin words.
Nominative case.
In the old days, you could start a forum and moderate it. There were >>>>> a few around. I would imagine, you could take over an abandoned
forum, start talking and moderate it.
Just think, nick, you could require that all participants address each >>>>> other as nigga and say fuck in every post.
As for me, only don't call me late for dinner.
It is true though, only blacks are allowed to call each other nigga
according to black etiquette.
i just don't care tbh.
regardless of the tone they use, i just can't respect anyone who accepts >>>> the wikislop that 47 story building can just collapse at free-fall into >>>> their footprint over an office fire on a few floors.
I might be a little more receptive, but not much, if you gave up
trying to pin the whole thing on the israelis. But in the end the
there's no one else with either the connections or motive to pull it off
Sorry, that assumption is not convincing. The judge won't allow it,
will send the jury into chambers to prevent them from even hearing it.
whole thing is ancient history and should be respectfully returned to
its grave.
there's no statue of limitations on unsolved murders just cause the
reality is political inconvenient???
Your assertion is not convincing.
fucking boomers man...
i get that capitalism is optics obsessed, but truth got buried under the >>>> moronic game of who's got the best optics, and we can't build a
sustainable society on top of utter fucking nonsense no matter how nice >>>> it sounds.
Free speech does not give you the right to be offensive and not have >>>>> people treat you as if you were offensive. We have the right to be
offended and to express that.
"Take your musings elsewhere if you might be harmed by your own taking >>>> of mere words on the screen"
I certainly was not talking about me. But I was talking about you.
Free speech does not license you to be as offensive as you please and
receive no push back from offended parties.
it's pretty retarded to blame others for your own taking of mere words
on the screen
As I said, only don't call me late for dinner. But others are
entitled to be offended if they might.
--
A moderated forum is not about denying you free speech. It is about >>>>> talking about a certain topic (like studebaker pickup carburetors). If >>>>> you happen to have such a device, you could go there and be sure to
get help making it work. Useful, but not a place to discuss zen, for >>>>> instance.
Moderated fora are meant to be useful; it has nothing to do with free >>>>> speech. Unmoderated fora are chaos. As this one is. Chaos can be
beautiful or not, your choice. Be the change you want to have.
At one time people here talked about the short fat guy. Those days
are long gone. Chaos has set in, so we mostly talk about politics, to >>>>> our utter shame. Politics is not beautiful.
politics could be beautiful if we focused on truth over optics
Optics being in the eye of the beholder. Enter ugliness.
On 10/6/25 12:10 PM, Dude wrote:
On 10/6/2025 11:31 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Mon, 6 Oct 2025 11:25:31 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:Obviously, Ned is the moderator now.
On 10/6/2025 11:14 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 10/6/25 10:56 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:Apparently, this group is been moderated now. Good work, Creaon!
On Mon, 6 Oct 2025 09:29:38 -0700, dart200there's no one else with either the connections or motive to pull
<user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
On 10/6/25 6:52 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Mon, 6 Oct 2025 13:20:21 +0100, Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote:
On 06/10/2025 06:37, dart200 wrote:
On 10/5/25 10:26 PM, Creon wrote:Hardly any Usenet fora are moderated.
On Sun, 5 Oct 2025 00:48:55 -0700, dart200 wrote:
nigga,
I hadn't figured you to be a dirty-mouthed troll.
Maybe you should lurk for a while before wading in
and (trying to) throw your weight around.
nigga as a free-speech enthusiast i reserve my right,
feel free to "kill-list" me, but why in #god's name to you spend >>>>>>>>>> ur time
here if that's what ur all about?
literally all the other forums on the planet have been
moderated to
oblivion ...
I'm impressed.-a Julian knows the neuter plural of latin words. >>>>>>>> Nominative case.
In the old days, you could start a forum and moderate it.-a There >>>>>>>> were
a few around.-a I would imagine, you could take over an abandoned >>>>>>>> forum, start talking and moderate it.
Just think, nick, you could require that all participants
address each
other as nigga and say fuck in every post.
As for me, only don't call me late for dinner.
It is true though, only blacks are allowed to call each other nigga >>>>>>>> according to black etiquette.
i just don't care tbh.
regardless of the tone they use, i just can't respect anyone who >>>>>>> accepts
the wikislop that 47 story building can just collapse at free-
fall into
their footprint over an office fire on a few floors.
I might be a little more receptive, but not much, if you gave up
trying to pin the whole thing on the israelis.-a But in the end the >>>>>
it off
whole thing is ancient history and should be respectfully returned to >>>>>> its grave.
there's no statue of limitations on unsolved murders just cause the
reality is political inconvenient???
fucking boomers man...
i get that capitalism is optics obsessed, but truth got buried
under the
moronic game of who's got the best optics, and we can't build a
sustainable society on top of utter fucking nonsense no matter
how nice
it sounds.
Free speech does not give you the right to be offensive and not >>>>>>>> have
people treat you as if you were offensive.-a We have the right to be >>>>>>>> offended and to express that.
"Take your musings elsewhere if you might be harmed by your own >>>>>>> taking
of mere words on the screen"
I certainly was not talking about me.-a But I was talking about you. >>>>>> Free speech does not license you to be as offensive as you please and >>>>>> receive no push back from offended parties.
it's pretty retarded to blame others for your own taking of mere words >>>>> on the screen
I haven't felt creon affecting my ability to say what I want to say.
It looks to me like you are ok too.
He banned me from posting to the group and apparently, won't even talk
with you for some reason. Face it Pal, there's no one here to engage!
Reminds me of a nursing home where some of the inmates act like you're
not even there when everyone gathers around the dinner table, although
you've been there for over a decade. Weird.
Until you realize half of the inmates are anti-social or senile, or
just plain crazy, or a troll. YMMV.
that describes most forums that exist.
try-hard forums don't really do a much better job at preventing it