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On 10/5/25 11:22 AM, Dude wrote:
On 10/4/2025 1:04 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 4 Oct 2025 12:17:15 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:Don't you just hate those Jews!
The Hamas killers are evil - they are the cause of all the killing.
They
should all be arrested and tried at the Hague for crimes against
humanity.
The israeli killers are evil - they are the cause of all the killing.
They should all be arrested and tried at the Hague for crimes against
humanity.
fuck it just glass the region with trinitite and be done with it
On Thu, 2 Oct 2025 22:46:08 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca> wrote:
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Thu, 2 Oct 2025 21:51:35 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca> wrote:
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Thu, 2 Oct 2025 12:35:44 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>
On 10/2/2025 10:10 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Thu, 2 Oct 2025 09:55:52 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>Not going to fall for your whataboutism. The subject at hand is there is >>>>>> no safe place in Britain for Jews.
On 10/2/2025 9:08 AM, Tara wrote:
Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca> wrote:Apparently, the Jew hating got started when the Prophet, wanted to be a
Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com> wrote:
On 02/10/2025 11:36, Julian wrote:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cx2703lnww4t
The barbarism of the Manchester synagogue attack
It is not often that the news gives you a sick feeling in the pit of
your stomach. Today?s news from Manchester does. Two dead and three >>>>>>>>>>> others in a serious condition following a car and stabbing attack >>>>>>>>>>> outside Heaton Park Synagogue. Britain must now wear that greatest of
ignominies ? we have become a nation where Jews are murdered at their
place of worship.
Britain must now wear that greatest of ignominies ? we have become a
nation where Jews are murdered at their place of worship. >>>>>>>>>>>
We await further information about the suspect and the victims. But we
can say with certainty that this is a dark day for our kingdom. One of
the darkest of recent times. For we appear to have been visited by an
apocalyptic form of violence that we normally only read about in the
history books. Next time I read about Kristallnacht or any of the other
murderous events from Europe?s descent into barbarism, I will think:
?Like Heaton Park??
People will ask how such a horror could have occurred. How, in 2025, the
Jews of England could be violently attacked on the holiest day in the
Jewish calendar: Yom Kippur. How, 900 years after the birth of the blood
libel in Norwich and 700 years after their expulsion from England, our
Jewish friends and neighbours still find themselves besieged by >>>>>>>>>>> violence. I think I have an answer to that question, and I think many
people will not like it.
We will soon discover, perhaps, what was in the suspect?s mind as he
inflicted such hellish cruelty on the peaceful Jews of Manchester. But
one thing we already know is that anti-Semitism is very often a >>>>>>>>>>> slow-burning thing. It brews and bubbles and spreads, sometimes >>>>>>>>>>> imperceptibly, before it blows up into acts of outright violence. I >>>>>>>>>>> believe this may prove to be the case with Manchester: that it was not
an out-of-the-blue atrocity but rather one that grew like a cancer from
the quiet march of Jew hatred these past two years.
I and others have been begging officialdom and the opinion-forming >>>>>>>>>>> classes to take anti-Semitism more seriously. We watched as synagogues
were graffitied with the words ?Free Gaza?. And as Orthodox Jews were
humiliated with the squirts of a water gun. And as faeces were smeared
on Jewish buildings in Golders Green. And as Jews were insulted, >>>>>>>>>>> attacked, and, in the case of a Hasidic girl in Stamford Hill, pelted
with a glass bottle. We watched as there was a 589 per cent rise in >>>>>>>>>>> anti-Semitic incidents following Hamas?s atrocities of 7 October. >>>>>>>>>>>
We watched as radical Islamists on those marches against Israel openly
called for the return of the army of Muhammad to finish off the Jews. As
Jewish kids were told they could remove their school blazers on the way
to and from school to escape the attention of Jew-haters. As an elderly
Jewish lady was burnt to death in Colorado by a man shouting ?Free >>>>>>>>>>> Palestine?. As a young couple were shot to death outside a Jewish museum
in Washington, DC, also by a man shouting ?Free Palestine?. Such >>>>>>>>>>> barbarism might blight Britain next, we said.
And too often we were ignored. When I think of my Jewish friends who
have been crying out for two years about the slow but steady growth of
anti-Semitism, and about how they were too often ignored or accused of
exaggeration or told they were trying to silence anti-Israel activism,
it makes me feel profoundly ashamed. Jews pleaded for the attention of
politicians and activists and influencers, but they rarely received it.
People looked the other way as Jews said they no longer felt safe in
certain towns and cities in this once great nation.
It is possible that the horrors of Heaton Park come not from a vacuum,
but from all that. From a culture of silence. From a reluctance to >>>>>>>>>>> grapple with the return of Jew hatred to 21st-century Europe. Enough is
enough. The ugly rebirth of anti-Semitism is always a sign that a >>>>>>>>>>> society has veered off the path of Enlightenment and taken a very dark
turn indeed. Heaton Park is a warning to Britain, and to humanity. If we
fail to heed it, not only our Jewish citizens but our society itself
will be in greater trouble than we can imagine. Where Jews are not safe
to worship, barbarism has superseded civilisation.
Brendan O?Neill
Have Jews always been persecuted? Anti- Semitism seems to sleep for a
while and then re-birth itself ad infinitum. Why the Jews in particular? I
just don?t get it.
I think some of anti-Semitism is about jealousy.
Jew in Mecca, but for some reason he was rejected. He hated this and it
made him really upset.
So he went back to Medina and got a mob of the local desert tribes and >>>>>>>> they went back to Mecca and looted and killed all the Jews in town, men
women and children.
This violent venting and looting was so profitable that the Arabs turned
it into a religion and then spread it all over the Middle East. Looting
and killing Jews all the way to Italy and Spain, killing Jews in the >>>>>>>> name of Allah, their god.
That is so cute. Now go back and read about the hutus & the tutsis. >>>>>>> And learn about this pernicious racial hatred thing that humans so >>>>>>> love to do.
Not whatabout. It is about understanding human impulses. What humans >>>>> do with endless justifications one way or the other. The killing is >>>>> always about death regardless.
No safe place? That is julian's inflammatory question. To which tara >>>>> responded with a civilized question. I gave my civilized answer.
Maybe, it's pay back time. The chickens have come home to roost. >>>>>>>> How many Jews have been murdered since the first Jew was born? It's >>>>>>>> probably in the millions by now, counting the Nazi persecutions. >>>>>>>>Refusing to be victims, the Jews always come back to thrive and >>>>>> prosper.
And your answer is to wax philosophically distancing yourself from any >>>> coherent answer or solution, calling the headline inflammatory when it?s >>>> actually true and a real problem. Your instruction is to read about the >>>> Hutus and the Tutsis. This is just what humans do, you say.
Cop out.
There is nothing philosophical about the tutsi/hutu genocide. It is
death of real people. It is actually true and a real problem.
My instruction is to understand, be aware. Don't look for who hit who
first, or take sides.
Britain must now wear that greatest of ignominies ? we have become a
nation where Jews are murdered at their place of worship.
We await further information about the suspect and the victims. But we >>>> can say with certainty that this is a dark day for our kingdom. One of >>>> the darkest of recent times. For we appear to have been visited by an
apocalyptic form of violence that we normally only read about in the
history books. Next time I read about Kristallnacht or any of the other >>>> murderous events from Europe?s descent into barbarism, I will think:
Like Heaton Park??
As if britain were the victim here, and not the real people bleeding
on the floor. Dark day for our kingdom. Not a dark day for the dead
people.
There was a bit in the news this morning about a hamas soldier,
saying, I don't want hamas to go away. I want to keep fighting. He
isn't the only one. Netty also wants to keep fighting, even though
many israeli citizens are saying, enough.
This is us. This is how it is that we continue to kill each other.
Not that you or I do the killing, but somebody always does, always is,
somewhere.
Do we know what to do about that? I say, we had better figure this
out. It matters. Not that I am smart enough to do that. I am barely
smart enough to say, it matters, figure it out.
My question was specific. Why the Jews.
The bible says god placed a curse on jews. That is really not our
concern. The bible also says, these things must come to pass, but
better be it to for you to be cast to the bottom of sea than for it to
be by your hand.
If you are a seriously devout christian, you have your answer.
Of course you could point to this or that thing about the jews, butwhen you look closely, such generalities can apply to all kinds of
people. And all nations have poor people and bankers who are not
jews, and poor people and bankers who are jews, if they have jews at
all.
The gypsies are another group that many people don't like. Hitler
included them in his prison camps, gas chambers and ovens. Why the
gypsies? They wander around keeping to themselves and looking for a
chance to make a good deal for themselves, bad deal for you. Their
clothes are garish and they tell fortunes.
I say they no more deserved to die than the anybody. No more deserve
the universal disdain they get than the anybody.
What does a gypsy want? He wants to wander the earth and not lie
beneath it. Sounds about right to me.
Dart200 thinks he is cute with his:
hi, i'm nick! let's end war ?
Sorry, nick, you are going to need to do a whole lot better than that.
On 10/2/2025 4:42 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Thu, 2 Oct 2025 22:46:08 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca> wrote:You really like to paint with a large brush!
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Thu, 2 Oct 2025 21:51:35 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca> wrote: >>>>
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Thu, 2 Oct 2025 12:35:44 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>
On 10/2/2025 10:10 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Thu, 2 Oct 2025 09:55:52 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>Not going to fall for your whataboutism. The subject at hand is there is
On 10/2/2025 9:08 AM, Tara wrote:
Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca> wrote:Apparently, the Jew hating got started when the Prophet, wanted to be a
Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com> wrote:
On 02/10/2025 11:36, Julian wrote:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cx2703lnww4t
The barbarism of the Manchester synagogue attack
It is not often that the news gives you a sick feeling in the pit of
your stomach. Today?s news from Manchester does. Two dead and three
others in a serious condition following a car and stabbing attack >>>>>>>>>>>> outside Heaton Park Synagogue. Britain must now wear that greatest of
ignominies ? we have become a nation where Jews are murdered at their
place of worship.
Britain must now wear that greatest of ignominies ? we have become a
nation where Jews are murdered at their place of worship. >>>>>>>>>>>>
We await further information about the suspect and the victims. But we
can say with certainty that this is a dark day for our kingdom. One of
the darkest of recent times. For we appear to have been visited by an
apocalyptic form of violence that we normally only read about in the
history books. Next time I read about Kristallnacht or any of the other
murderous events from Europe?s descent into barbarism, I will think:
?Like Heaton Park??
People will ask how such a horror could have occurred. How, in 2025, the
Jews of England could be violently attacked on the holiest day in the
Jewish calendar: Yom Kippur. How, 900 years after the birth of the blood
libel in Norwich and 700 years after their expulsion from England, our
Jewish friends and neighbours still find themselves besieged by >>>>>>>>>>>> violence. I think I have an answer to that question, and I think many
people will not like it.
We will soon discover, perhaps, what was in the suspect?s mind as he
inflicted such hellish cruelty on the peaceful Jews of Manchester. But
one thing we already know is that anti-Semitism is very often a >>>>>>>>>>>> slow-burning thing. It brews and bubbles and spreads, sometimes >>>>>>>>>>>> imperceptibly, before it blows up into acts of outright violence. I
believe this may prove to be the case with Manchester: that it was not
an out-of-the-blue atrocity but rather one that grew like a cancer from
the quiet march of Jew hatred these past two years.
I and others have been begging officialdom and the opinion-forming >>>>>>>>>>>> classes to take anti-Semitism more seriously. We watched as synagogues
were graffitied with the words ?Free Gaza?. And as Orthodox Jews were
humiliated with the squirts of a water gun. And as faeces were smeared
on Jewish buildings in Golders Green. And as Jews were insulted, >>>>>>>>>>>> attacked, and, in the case of a Hasidic girl in Stamford Hill, pelted
with a glass bottle. We watched as there was a 589 per cent rise in
anti-Semitic incidents following Hamas?s atrocities of 7 October. >>>>>>>>>>>>
We watched as radical Islamists on those marches against Israel openly
called for the return of the army of Muhammad to finish off the Jews. As
Jewish kids were told they could remove their school blazers on the way
to and from school to escape the attention of Jew-haters. As an elderly
Jewish lady was burnt to death in Colorado by a man shouting ?Free >>>>>>>>>>>> Palestine?. As a young couple were shot to death outside a Jewish museum
in Washington, DC, also by a man shouting ?Free Palestine?. Such >>>>>>>>>>>> barbarism might blight Britain next, we said.
And too often we were ignored. When I think of my Jewish friends who
have been crying out for two years about the slow but steady growth of
anti-Semitism, and about how they were too often ignored or accused of
exaggeration or told they were trying to silence anti-Israel activism,
it makes me feel profoundly ashamed. Jews pleaded for the attention of
politicians and activists and influencers, but they rarely received it.
People looked the other way as Jews said they no longer felt safe in
certain towns and cities in this once great nation.
It is possible that the horrors of Heaton Park come not from a vacuum,
but from all that. From a culture of silence. From a reluctance to >>>>>>>>>>>> grapple with the return of Jew hatred to 21st-century Europe. Enough is
enough. The ugly rebirth of anti-Semitism is always a sign that a >>>>>>>>>>>> society has veered off the path of Enlightenment and taken a very dark
turn indeed. Heaton Park is a warning to Britain, and to humanity. If we
fail to heed it, not only our Jewish citizens but our society itself
will be in greater trouble than we can imagine. Where Jews are not safe
to worship, barbarism has superseded civilisation.
Brendan O?Neill
Have Jews always been persecuted? Anti- Semitism seems to sleep for a
while and then re-birth itself ad infinitum. Why the Jews in particular? I
just don?t get it.
I think some of anti-Semitism is about jealousy.
Jew in Mecca, but for some reason he was rejected. He hated this and it
made him really upset.
So he went back to Medina and got a mob of the local desert tribes and
they went back to Mecca and looted and killed all the Jews in town, men
women and children.
This violent venting and looting was so profitable that the Arabs turned
it into a religion and then spread it all over the Middle East. Looting
and killing Jews all the way to Italy and Spain, killing Jews in the >>>>>>>>> name of Allah, their god.
That is so cute. Now go back and read about the hutus & the tutsis. >>>>>>>> And learn about this pernicious racial hatred thing that humans so >>>>>>>> love to do.
no safe place in Britain for Jews.
Not whatabout. It is about understanding human impulses. What humans >>>>>> do with endless justifications one way or the other. The killing is >>>>>> always about death regardless.
No safe place? That is julian's inflammatory question. To which tara >>>>>> responded with a civilized question. I gave my civilized answer.
Maybe, it's pay back time. The chickens have come home to roost. >>>>>>>>> How many Jews have been murdered since the first Jew was born? It's >>>>>>>>> probably in the millions by now, counting the Nazi persecutions. >>>>>>>>>Refusing to be victims, the Jews always come back to thrive and >>>>>>> prosper.
And your answer is to wax philosophically distancing yourself from any >>>>> coherent answer or solution, calling the headline inflammatory when it?s >>>>> actually true and a real problem. Your instruction is to read about the >>>>> Hutus and the Tutsis. This is just what humans do, you say.
Cop out.
There is nothing philosophical about the tutsi/hutu genocide. It is
death of real people. It is actually true and a real problem.
My instruction is to understand, be aware. Don't look for who hit who >>>> first, or take sides.
Britain must now wear that greatest of ignominies ? we have become a >>>>> nation where Jews are murdered at their place of worship.
We await further information about the suspect and the victims. But we >>>>> can say with certainty that this is a dark day for our kingdom. One of >>>>> the darkest of recent times. For we appear to have been visited by an >>>>> apocalyptic form of violence that we normally only read about in the >>>>> history books. Next time I read about Kristallnacht or any of the other >>>>> murderous events from Europe?s descent into barbarism, I will think: >>>>> Like Heaton Park??
As if britain were the victim here, and not the real people bleeding
on the floor. Dark day for our kingdom. Not a dark day for the dead
people.
There was a bit in the news this morning about a hamas soldier,
saying, I don't want hamas to go away. I want to keep fighting. He
isn't the only one. Netty also wants to keep fighting, even though
many israeli citizens are saying, enough.
This is us. This is how it is that we continue to kill each other.
Not that you or I do the killing, but somebody always does, always is, >>>> somewhere.
Do we know what to do about that? I say, we had better figure this
out. It matters. Not that I am smart enough to do that. I am barely >>>> smart enough to say, it matters, figure it out.
My question was specific. Why the Jews.
The bible says god placed a curse on jews. That is really not our
concern. The bible also says, these things must come to pass, but
better be it to for you to be cast to the bottom of sea than for it to
be by your hand.
If you are a seriously devout "christian" you want to kill the JewsIf you are a seriously devout christian, you have your answer.
because they murdered Jesus. It says so in the Bible. If you are a
serious devout Christian, Jesus IS God.
--And you would know this how?Of course you could point to this or that thing about the jews, butwhen you look closely, such generalities can apply to all kinds of
people. And all nations have poor people and bankers who are not
jews, and poor people and bankers who are jews, if they have jews at
all.
The gypsies are another group that many people don't like. Hitler
included them in his prison camps, gas chambers and ovens. Why the
gypsies? They wander around keeping to themselves and looking for a
chance to make a good deal for themselves, bad deal for you. Their
clothes are garish and they tell fortunes.
I say they no more deserved to die than the anybody. No more deserve
the universal disdain they get than the anybody.
What does a gypsy want? He wants to wander the earth and not lie
beneath it. Sounds about right to me.
Cuter than a mustachioed villain posing as a Sombrero?
Dart200 thinks he is cute with his:
hi, i'm nick! let's end war ?
Sorry, nick, you are going to need to do a whole lot better than that.
It just doesn't get any better than this. Five anti-social misfits
posting messages to an online chat room! The only other thing that might >compare would be facing a wall and watching paint dry. YMMV.
On 10/4/2025 1:04 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 4 Oct 2025 12:17:15 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
The Hamas killers are evil - they are the cause of all the killing. They >>> should all be arrested and tried at the Hague for crimes against humanity. >>The israeli killers are evil - they are the cause of all the killing.
They should all be arrested and tried at the Hague for crimes against
humanity.
Don't you just hate those Jews!
On 10/5/2025 11:27 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 10/5/25 11:22 AM, Dude wrote:That's one solution.
On 10/4/2025 1:04 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 4 Oct 2025 12:17:15 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:Don't you just hate those Jews!
The Hamas killers are evil - they are the cause of all the killing. >>>>> They
should all be arrested and tried at the Hague for crimes against
humanity.
The israeli killers are evil - they are the cause of all the killing.
They should all be arrested and tried at the Hague for crimes against
humanity.
fuck it just glass the region with trinitite and be done with it
Apparently it's possible, but the main thing is to rescue the remaining >hostages and the dead bodies of all the rest that were murdered by the >terrorists.
It might be better to just rescue the hostages, kill all the terrorists
and then help the refugees get settled somewhere else. Obviously, the >refugees can't live in the Gaza Strip - it's been destroyed by the Hamas.
You've got to wonder: with all the trillions of dollars from oilNoah Sombrero mustachioed villain
production, why can't the Arab League nations help the poor people in Gaza?
For God's sake, the Sheik of Araby has fourteen wives and lives in a palace! --
On 10/4/2025 1:07 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 4 Oct 2025 12:42:02 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:It is cowardly to start a war and hide behind women and children used as >shields in order to kill Jews. YMMV.
On 10/3/2025 4:45 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Fri, 3 Oct 2025 16:08:31 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:The Egyptian Yasser Arafat was the main instigator of the Munich massacre. >>>
On 10/3/2025 2:23 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Fri, 3 Oct 2025 14:03:04 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>Correction: everyone but Noah.
On 10/3/2025 1:28 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Fri, 3 Oct 2025 13:08:53 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>Maybe because everyone knows
On 10/2/2025 6:42 PM, Tara wrote:
dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:There is a reason all the top leaders of Hamas are billionaires while >>>>>>>>> most Gazans not affiliated with Hamas live in poverty." - Alan Lamb, Quora
On 10/2/25 3:46 PM, Tara wrote:
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Thu, 2 Oct 2025 21:51:35 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca> wrote:
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Thu, 2 Oct 2025 12:35:44 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 10/2/2025 10:10 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Thu, 2 Oct 2025 09:55:52 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:Not going to fall for your whataboutism. The subject at hand is there is
On 10/2/2025 9:08 AM, Tara wrote:
Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca> wrote:Apparently, the Jew hating got started when the Prophet, wanted to be a
Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 02/10/2025 11:36, Julian wrote:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cx2703lnww4t >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The barbarism of the Manchester synagogue attack >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
It is not often that the news gives you a sick feeling in the pit of
your stomach. Today?s news from Manchester does. Two dead and three
others in a serious condition following a car and stabbing attack
outside Heaton Park Synagogue. Britain must now wear that greatest of
ignominies ? we have become a nation where Jews are murdered at their
place of worship.
Britain must now wear that greatest of ignominies ? we have become a
nation where Jews are murdered at their place of worship. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
We await further information about the suspect and the victims. But we
can say with certainty that this is a dark day for our kingdom. One of
the darkest of recent times. For we appear to have been visited by an
apocalyptic form of violence that we normally only read about in the
history books. Next time I read about Kristallnacht or any of the other
murderous events from Europe?s descent into barbarism, I will think:
?Like Heaton Park??
People will ask how such a horror could have occurred. How, in 2025, the
Jews of England could be violently attacked on the holiest day in the
Jewish calendar: Yom Kippur. How, 900 years after the birth of the blood
libel in Norwich and 700 years after their expulsion from England, our
Jewish friends and neighbours still find themselves besieged by
violence. I think I have an answer to that question, and I think many
people will not like it.
We will soon discover, perhaps, what was in the suspect?s mind as he
inflicted such hellish cruelty on the peaceful Jews of Manchester. But
one thing we already know is that anti-Semitism is very often a
slow-burning thing. It brews and bubbles and spreads, sometimes
imperceptibly, before it blows up into acts of outright violence. I
believe this may prove to be the case with Manchester: that it was not
an out-of-the-blue atrocity but rather one that grew like a cancer from
the quiet march of Jew hatred these past two years. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I and others have been begging officialdom and the opinion-forming
classes to take anti-Semitism more seriously. We watched as synagogues
were graffitied with the words ?Free Gaza?. And as Orthodox Jews were
humiliated with the squirts of a water gun. And as faeces were smeared
on Jewish buildings in Golders Green. And as Jews were insulted,
attacked, and, in the case of a Hasidic girl in Stamford Hill, pelted
with a glass bottle. We watched as there was a 589 per cent rise in
anti-Semitic incidents following Hamas?s atrocities of 7 October.
We watched as radical Islamists on those marches against Israel openly
called for the return of the army of Muhammad to finish off the Jews. As
Jewish kids were told they could remove their school blazers on the way
to and from school to escape the attention of Jew-haters. As an elderly
Jewish lady was burnt to death in Colorado by a man shouting ?Free
Palestine?. As a young couple were shot to death outside a Jewish museum
in Washington, DC, also by a man shouting ?Free Palestine?. Such
barbarism might blight Britain next, we said. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
And too often we were ignored. When I think of my Jewish friends who
have been crying out for two years about the slow but steady growth of
anti-Semitism, and about how they were too often ignored or accused of
exaggeration or told they were trying to silence anti-Israel activism,
it makes me feel profoundly ashamed. Jews pleaded for the attention of
politicians and activists and influencers, but they rarely received it.
People looked the other way as Jews said they no longer felt safe in
certain towns and cities in this once great nation. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
It is possible that the horrors of Heaton Park come not from a vacuum,
but from all that. From a culture of silence. From a reluctance to
grapple with the return of Jew hatred to 21st-century Europe. Enough is
enough. The ugly rebirth of anti-Semitism is always a sign that a
society has veered off the path of Enlightenment and taken a very dark
turn indeed. Heaton Park is a warning to Britain, and to humanity. If we
fail to heed it, not only our Jewish citizens but our society itself
will be in greater trouble than we can imagine. Where Jews are not safe
to worship, barbarism has superseded civilisation. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Brendan O?Neill
Have Jews always been persecuted? Anti- Semitism seems to sleep for a
while and then re-birth itself ad infinitum. Why the Jews in particular? I
just don?t get it.
I think some of anti-Semitism is about jealousy. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Jew in Mecca, but for some reason he was rejected. He hated this and it
made him really upset.
So he went back to Medina and got a mob of the local desert tribes and
they went back to Mecca and looted and killed all the Jews in town, men
women and children.
This violent venting and looting was so profitable that the Arabs turned
it into a religion and then spread it all over the Middle East. Looting
and killing Jews all the way to Italy and Spain, killing Jews in the
name of Allah, their god.
That is so cute. Now go back and read about the hutus & the tutsis.
And learn about this pernicious racial hatred thing that humans so
love to do.
no safe place in Britain for Jews.
Not whatabout. It is about understanding human impulses. What humans
do with endless justifications one way or the other. The killing is
always about death regardless.
No safe place? That is julian's inflammatory question. To which tara
responded with a civilized question. I gave my civilized answer.
prosper.Refusing to be victims, the Jews always come back to thrive and
Maybe, it's pay back time. The chickens have come home to roost.
How many Jews have been murdered since the first Jew was born? It's
probably in the millions by now, counting the Nazi persecutions.
And your answer is to wax philosophically distancing yourself from any
coherent answer or solution, calling the headline inflammatory when it?s
actually true and a real problem. Your instruction is to read about the
Hutus and the Tutsis. This is just what humans do, you say. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cop out.
There is nothing philosophical about the tutsi/hutu genocide. It is
death of real people. It is actually true and a real problem. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
My instruction is to understand, be aware. Don't look for who hit who
first, or take sides.
Britain must now wear that greatest of ignominies ? we have become a
nation where Jews are murdered at their place of worship. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
We await further information about the suspect and the victims. But we
can say with certainty that this is a dark day for our kingdom. One of
the darkest of recent times. For we appear to have been visited by an
apocalyptic form of violence that we normally only read about in the
history books. Next time I read about Kristallnacht or any of the other
murderous events from Europe?s descent into barbarism, I will think:
Like Heaton Park??
As if britain were the victim here, and not the real people bleeding
on the floor. Dark day for our kingdom. Not a dark day for the dead
people.
There was a bit in the news this morning about a hamas soldier, >>>>>>>>>>>>> saying, I don't want hamas to go away. I want to keep fighting. He
isn't the only one. Netty also wants to keep fighting, even though
many israeli citizens are saying, enough.
This is us. This is how it is that we continue to kill each other.
Not that you or I do the killing, but somebody always does, always is,
somewhere.
Do we know what to do about that? I say, we had better figure this
out. It matters. Not that I am smart enough to do that. I am barely
smart enough to say, it matters, figure it out.
My question was specific. Why the Jews.
cause usury? idk
idk either.
And mr lamb, you know about the wealth of leaders of hamas exactly >>>>>>>> how?
There you go again with what everybody knows.
It was on TV and in the newspapers. The daughter of the EgyptianWhat you are telling us is what you think you know.
terrorist Yasser Arafat, has a daughter that lives in London.
"Yasser Arafat was the first president of the Palestinian Authority
(1996-2004), chairman of the Palestinian Liberation Organization
(PLO), and leader of Fatah.
Evidence indicates his Fatah movement had a hidden connection with the
Black September Organization, the group that carried out the attack.
Black September was an offshoot of Fatah, established to avenge the
expulsion of Palestinian guerrillas from Jordan.
In 1993 he led the PLO to a historic peaceSo, I looked it up.
agreement with Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin and the Israeli
government."
Historic peace agreement. Not your typical terrorist then.
You know what, I don't care where his daughter lives. Some european
world class city, most likely,.
Where do you think the leaders of Hamas live? In Gaza City?
Mostly dead at this point, I suspect. I don't think you know where
they live any better than I do.
After Israel killed Ismail Haniyeh in July 2024 and Yahya Sinwar in
October 2024, Hamas formed a new, five-man leadership council. Most of
this council lives in exile outside of Gaza.
Hamas leaders include:
Khalil al-Hayya: based in Qatar.
Muhammad Darwish: based in Qatar.
Zaher Jabarin: Qatar.
The question is, why are they living Qatar instead with the militants in >>> Gaza City?
It sounds reasonable to me, given the circumstances. Not that israel
can't target them in quatar.
Apparently, billions of dollars have been donated to the Hamas cause. >Billions!it's cowardly hiding out like that. Privilaged. Follow the money.
Follow the money. There you are talking about what you don't know.
On Sun, 5 Oct 2025 12:51:29 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 10/2/2025 4:42 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Thu, 2 Oct 2025 22:46:08 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca> wrote:You really like to paint with a large brush!
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Thu, 2 Oct 2025 21:51:35 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca> wrote: >>>>>
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Thu, 2 Oct 2025 12:35:44 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>
On 10/2/2025 10:10 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Thu, 2 Oct 2025 09:55:52 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>Not going to fall for your whataboutism. The subject at hand is there is
On 10/2/2025 9:08 AM, Tara wrote:
Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca> wrote:Apparently, the Jew hating got started when the Prophet, wanted to be a
Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com> wrote:
On 02/10/2025 11:36, Julian wrote:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cx2703lnww4t
The barbarism of the Manchester synagogue attack
It is not often that the news gives you a sick feeling in the pit of
your stomach. Today?s news from Manchester does. Two dead and three
others in a serious condition following a car and stabbing attack >>>>>>>>>>>>> outside Heaton Park Synagogue. Britain must now wear that greatest of
ignominies ? we have become a nation where Jews are murdered at their
place of worship.
Britain must now wear that greatest of ignominies ? we have become a
nation where Jews are murdered at their place of worship. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
We await further information about the suspect and the victims. But we
can say with certainty that this is a dark day for our kingdom. One of
the darkest of recent times. For we appear to have been visited by an
apocalyptic form of violence that we normally only read about in the
history books. Next time I read about Kristallnacht or any of the other
murderous events from Europe?s descent into barbarism, I will think:
?Like Heaton Park??
People will ask how such a horror could have occurred. How, in 2025, the
Jews of England could be violently attacked on the holiest day in the
Jewish calendar: Yom Kippur. How, 900 years after the birth of the blood
libel in Norwich and 700 years after their expulsion from England, our
Jewish friends and neighbours still find themselves besieged by >>>>>>>>>>>>> violence. I think I have an answer to that question, and I think many
people will not like it.
We will soon discover, perhaps, what was in the suspect?s mind as he
inflicted such hellish cruelty on the peaceful Jews of Manchester. But
one thing we already know is that anti-Semitism is very often a >>>>>>>>>>>>> slow-burning thing. It brews and bubbles and spreads, sometimes >>>>>>>>>>>>> imperceptibly, before it blows up into acts of outright violence. I
believe this may prove to be the case with Manchester: that it was not
an out-of-the-blue atrocity but rather one that grew like a cancer from
the quiet march of Jew hatred these past two years.
I and others have been begging officialdom and the opinion-forming
classes to take anti-Semitism more seriously. We watched as synagogues
were graffitied with the words ?Free Gaza?. And as Orthodox Jews were
humiliated with the squirts of a water gun. And as faeces were smeared
on Jewish buildings in Golders Green. And as Jews were insulted, >>>>>>>>>>>>> attacked, and, in the case of a Hasidic girl in Stamford Hill, pelted
with a glass bottle. We watched as there was a 589 per cent rise in
anti-Semitic incidents following Hamas?s atrocities of 7 October. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
We watched as radical Islamists on those marches against Israel openly
called for the return of the army of Muhammad to finish off the Jews. As
Jewish kids were told they could remove their school blazers on the way
to and from school to escape the attention of Jew-haters. As an elderly
Jewish lady was burnt to death in Colorado by a man shouting ?Free
Palestine?. As a young couple were shot to death outside a Jewish museum
in Washington, DC, also by a man shouting ?Free Palestine?. Such >>>>>>>>>>>>> barbarism might blight Britain next, we said.
And too often we were ignored. When I think of my Jewish friends who
have been crying out for two years about the slow but steady growth of
anti-Semitism, and about how they were too often ignored or accused of
exaggeration or told they were trying to silence anti-Israel activism,
it makes me feel profoundly ashamed. Jews pleaded for the attention of
politicians and activists and influencers, but they rarely received it.
People looked the other way as Jews said they no longer felt safe in
certain towns and cities in this once great nation.
It is possible that the horrors of Heaton Park come not from a vacuum,
but from all that. From a culture of silence. From a reluctance to
grapple with the return of Jew hatred to 21st-century Europe. Enough is
enough. The ugly rebirth of anti-Semitism is always a sign that a >>>>>>>>>>>>> society has veered off the path of Enlightenment and taken a very dark
turn indeed. Heaton Park is a warning to Britain, and to humanity. If we
fail to heed it, not only our Jewish citizens but our society itself
will be in greater trouble than we can imagine. Where Jews are not safe
to worship, barbarism has superseded civilisation.
Brendan O?Neill
Have Jews always been persecuted? Anti- Semitism seems to sleep for a
while and then re-birth itself ad infinitum. Why the Jews in particular? I
just don?t get it.
I think some of anti-Semitism is about jealousy.
Jew in Mecca, but for some reason he was rejected. He hated this and it
made him really upset.
So he went back to Medina and got a mob of the local desert tribes and
they went back to Mecca and looted and killed all the Jews in town, men
women and children.
This violent venting and looting was so profitable that the Arabs turned
it into a religion and then spread it all over the Middle East. Looting
and killing Jews all the way to Italy and Spain, killing Jews in the >>>>>>>>>> name of Allah, their god.
That is so cute. Now go back and read about the hutus & the tutsis. >>>>>>>>> And learn about this pernicious racial hatred thing that humans so >>>>>>>>> love to do.
no safe place in Britain for Jews.
Not whatabout. It is about understanding human impulses. What humans >>>>>>> do with endless justifications one way or the other. The killing is >>>>>>> always about death regardless.
No safe place? That is julian's inflammatory question. To which tara >>>>>>> responded with a civilized question. I gave my civilized answer. >>>>>>>
Maybe, it's pay back time. The chickens have come home to roost. >>>>>>>>>> How many Jews have been murdered since the first Jew was born? It's >>>>>>>>>> probably in the millions by now, counting the Nazi persecutions. >>>>>>>>>>Refusing to be victims, the Jews always come back to thrive and >>>>>>>> prosper.
And your answer is to wax philosophically distancing yourself from any >>>>>> coherent answer or solution, calling the headline inflammatory when it?s >>>>>> actually true and a real problem. Your instruction is to read about the >>>>>> Hutus and the Tutsis. This is just what humans do, you say.
Cop out.
There is nothing philosophical about the tutsi/hutu genocide. It is >>>>> death of real people. It is actually true and a real problem.
My instruction is to understand, be aware. Don't look for who hit who >>>>> first, or take sides.
Britain must now wear that greatest of ignominies ? we have become a >>>>>> nation where Jews are murdered at their place of worship.
We await further information about the suspect and the victims. But we >>>>>> can say with certainty that this is a dark day for our kingdom. One of >>>>>> the darkest of recent times. For we appear to have been visited by an >>>>>> apocalyptic form of violence that we normally only read about in the >>>>>> history books. Next time I read about Kristallnacht or any of the other >>>>>> murderous events from Europe?s descent into barbarism, I will think: >>>>>> Like Heaton Park??
As if britain were the victim here, and not the real people bleeding >>>>> on the floor. Dark day for our kingdom. Not a dark day for the dead >>>>> people.
There was a bit in the news this morning about a hamas soldier,
saying, I don't want hamas to go away. I want to keep fighting. He >>>>> isn't the only one. Netty also wants to keep fighting, even though
many israeli citizens are saying, enough.
This is us. This is how it is that we continue to kill each other.
Not that you or I do the killing, but somebody always does, always is, >>>>> somewhere.
Do we know what to do about that? I say, we had better figure this
out. It matters. Not that I am smart enough to do that. I am barely >>>>> smart enough to say, it matters, figure it out.
My question was specific. Why the Jews.
The bible says god placed a curse on jews. That is really not our
concern. The bible also says, these things must come to pass, but
better be it to for you to be cast to the bottom of sea than for it to
be by your hand.
If you are a seriously devout "christian" you want to kill the JewsIf you are a seriously devout christian, you have your answer.
because they murdered Jesus. It says so in the Bible. If you are a
serious devout Christian, Jesus IS God.
Jesus was a jew.
And the curse of god upon the jews had nothing to do with jesus. Itis in the ot. But, you and I would be better off not even knowing
about that. Because the penalty of enforcing that curse is somewhat
worse than the curse, if you are paying attention.
On Sun, 5 Oct 2025 12:27:31 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 10/5/2025 11:27 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 10/5/25 11:22 AM, Dude wrote:That's one solution.
On 10/4/2025 1:04 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 4 Oct 2025 12:17:15 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>Don't you just hate those Jews!
The Hamas killers are evil - they are the cause of all the killing. >>>>>> They
should all be arrested and tried at the Hague for crimes against
humanity.
The israeli killers are evil - they are the cause of all the killing. >>>>> They should all be arrested and tried at the Hague for crimes against >>>>> humanity.
fuck it just glass the region with trinitite and be done with it
Apparently it's possible, but the main thing is to rescue the remaining
hostages and the dead bodies of all the rest that were murdered by the
terrorists.
It might be better to just rescue the hostages, kill all the terrorists
and then help the refugees get settled somewhere else. Obviously, the
refugees can't live in the Gaza Strip - it's been destroyed by the Hamas.
By whom? Let's hear you say that shit again.
You've got to wonder: with all the trillions of dollars from oil
production, why can't the Arab League nations help the poor people in Gaza? >>
For God's sake, the Sheik of Araby has fourteen wives and lives in a palace!
On Sun, 5 Oct 2025 11:22:12 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 10/4/2025 1:04 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 4 Oct 2025 12:17:15 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:Don't you just hate those Jews!
The Hamas killers are evil - they are the cause of all the killing. They >>>> should all be arrested and tried at the Hague for crimes against humanity. >>>The israeli killers are evil - they are the cause of all the killing.
They should all be arrested and tried at the Hague for crimes against
humanity.
Nope, don't hate anybody. I simply turned the mirror on who you hate.
On Sun, 5 Oct 2025 11:27:43 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 10/4/2025 1:07 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 4 Oct 2025 12:42:02 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:It is cowardly to start a war and hide behind women and children used as
On 10/3/2025 4:45 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Fri, 3 Oct 2025 16:08:31 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>The Egyptian Yasser Arafat was the main instigator of the Munich massacre. >>>>
On 10/3/2025 2:23 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Fri, 3 Oct 2025 14:03:04 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>Correction: everyone but Noah.
On 10/3/2025 1:28 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Fri, 3 Oct 2025 13:08:53 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>Maybe because everyone knows
On 10/2/2025 6:42 PM, Tara wrote:
dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:There is a reason all the top leaders of Hamas are billionaires while
On 10/2/25 3:46 PM, Tara wrote:
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Thu, 2 Oct 2025 21:51:35 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca> wrote:
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Thu, 2 Oct 2025 12:35:44 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 10/2/2025 10:10 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 2 Oct 2025 09:55:52 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
Not going to fall for your whataboutism. The subject at hand is there is
On 10/2/2025 9:08 AM, Tara wrote:
Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca> wrote:Apparently, the Jew hating got started when the Prophet, wanted to be a
Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 02/10/2025 11:36, Julian wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cx2703lnww4t >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
The barbarism of the Manchester synagogue attack >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
It is not often that the news gives you a sick feeling in the pit of
your stomach. Today?s news from Manchester does. Two dead and three
others in a serious condition following a car and stabbing attack
outside Heaton Park Synagogue. Britain must now wear that greatest of
ignominies ? we have become a nation where Jews are murdered at their
place of worship.
Britain must now wear that greatest of ignominies ? we have become a
nation where Jews are murdered at their place of worship.
We await further information about the suspect and the victims. But we
can say with certainty that this is a dark day for our kingdom. One of
the darkest of recent times. For we appear to have been visited by an
apocalyptic form of violence that we normally only read about in the
history books. Next time I read about Kristallnacht or any of the other
murderous events from Europe?s descent into barbarism, I will think:
?Like Heaton Park??
People will ask how such a horror could have occurred. How, in 2025, the
Jews of England could be violently attacked on the holiest day in the
Jewish calendar: Yom Kippur. How, 900 years after the birth of the blood
libel in Norwich and 700 years after their expulsion from England, our
Jewish friends and neighbours still find themselves besieged by
violence. I think I have an answer to that question, and I think many
people will not like it.
We will soon discover, perhaps, what was in the suspect?s mind as he
inflicted such hellish cruelty on the peaceful Jews of Manchester. But
one thing we already know is that anti-Semitism is very often a
slow-burning thing. It brews and bubbles and spreads, sometimes
imperceptibly, before it blows up into acts of outright violence. I
believe this may prove to be the case with Manchester: that it was not
an out-of-the-blue atrocity but rather one that grew like a cancer from
the quiet march of Jew hatred these past two years. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I and others have been begging officialdom and the opinion-forming
classes to take anti-Semitism more seriously. We watched as synagogues
were graffitied with the words ?Free Gaza?. And as Orthodox Jews were
humiliated with the squirts of a water gun. And as faeces were smeared
on Jewish buildings in Golders Green. And as Jews were insulted,
attacked, and, in the case of a Hasidic girl in Stamford Hill, pelted
with a glass bottle. We watched as there was a 589 per cent rise in
anti-Semitic incidents following Hamas?s atrocities of 7 October.
We watched as radical Islamists on those marches against Israel openly
called for the return of the army of Muhammad to finish off the Jews. As
Jewish kids were told they could remove their school blazers on the way
to and from school to escape the attention of Jew-haters. As an elderly
Jewish lady was burnt to death in Colorado by a man shouting ?Free
Palestine?. As a young couple were shot to death outside a Jewish museum
in Washington, DC, also by a man shouting ?Free Palestine?. Such
barbarism might blight Britain next, we said. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
And too often we were ignored. When I think of my Jewish friends who
have been crying out for two years about the slow but steady growth of
anti-Semitism, and about how they were too often ignored or accused of
exaggeration or told they were trying to silence anti-Israel activism,
it makes me feel profoundly ashamed. Jews pleaded for the attention of
politicians and activists and influencers, but they rarely received it.
People looked the other way as Jews said they no longer felt safe in
certain towns and cities in this once great nation. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
It is possible that the horrors of Heaton Park come not from a vacuum,
but from all that. From a culture of silence. From a reluctance to
grapple with the return of Jew hatred to 21st-century Europe. Enough is
enough. The ugly rebirth of anti-Semitism is always a sign that a
society has veered off the path of Enlightenment and taken a very dark
turn indeed. Heaton Park is a warning to Britain, and to humanity. If we
fail to heed it, not only our Jewish citizens but our society itself
will be in greater trouble than we can imagine. Where Jews are not safe
to worship, barbarism has superseded civilisation. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Brendan O?Neill
Have Jews always been persecuted? Anti- Semitism seems to sleep for a
while and then re-birth itself ad infinitum. Why the Jews in particular? I
just don?t get it.
I think some of anti-Semitism is about jealousy. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Jew in Mecca, but for some reason he was rejected. He hated this and it
made him really upset.
So he went back to Medina and got a mob of the local desert tribes and
they went back to Mecca and looted and killed all the Jews in town, men
women and children.
This violent venting and looting was so profitable that the Arabs turned
it into a religion and then spread it all over the Middle East. Looting
and killing Jews all the way to Italy and Spain, killing Jews in the
name of Allah, their god.
That is so cute. Now go back and read about the hutus & the tutsis.
And learn about this pernicious racial hatred thing that humans so
love to do.
no safe place in Britain for Jews.
Not whatabout. It is about understanding human impulses. What humans
do with endless justifications one way or the other. The killing is
always about death regardless.
No safe place? That is julian's inflammatory question. To which tara
responded with a civilized question. I gave my civilized answer.
prosper.Refusing to be victims, the Jews always come back to thrive and
Maybe, it's pay back time. The chickens have come home to roost.
How many Jews have been murdered since the first Jew was born? It's
probably in the millions by now, counting the Nazi persecutions.
And your answer is to wax philosophically distancing yourself from any
coherent answer or solution, calling the headline inflammatory when it?s
actually true and a real problem. Your instruction is to read about the
Hutus and the Tutsis. This is just what humans do, you say. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cop out.
There is nothing philosophical about the tutsi/hutu genocide. It is
death of real people. It is actually true and a real problem. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
My instruction is to understand, be aware. Don't look for who hit who
first, or take sides.
Britain must now wear that greatest of ignominies ? we have become a
nation where Jews are murdered at their place of worship. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
We await further information about the suspect and the victims. But we
can say with certainty that this is a dark day for our kingdom. One of
the darkest of recent times. For we appear to have been visited by an
apocalyptic form of violence that we normally only read about in the
history books. Next time I read about Kristallnacht or any of the other
murderous events from Europe?s descent into barbarism, I will think:
Like Heaton Park??
As if britain were the victim here, and not the real people bleeding
on the floor. Dark day for our kingdom. Not a dark day for the dead
people.
There was a bit in the news this morning about a hamas soldier, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> saying, I don't want hamas to go away. I want to keep fighting. He
isn't the only one. Netty also wants to keep fighting, even though
many israeli citizens are saying, enough.
This is us. This is how it is that we continue to kill each other.
Not that you or I do the killing, but somebody always does, always is,
somewhere.
Do we know what to do about that? I say, we had better figure this
out. It matters. Not that I am smart enough to do that. I am barely
smart enough to say, it matters, figure it out.
My question was specific. Why the Jews.
cause usury? idk
idk either.
most Gazans not affiliated with Hamas live in poverty." - Alan Lamb, Quora
And mr lamb, you know about the wealth of leaders of hamas exactly >>>>>>>>> how?
There you go again with what everybody knows.
It was on TV and in the newspapers. The daughter of the EgyptianWhat you are telling us is what you think you know.
terrorist Yasser Arafat, has a daughter that lives in London.
"Yasser Arafat was the first president of the Palestinian Authority
(1996-2004), chairman of the Palestinian Liberation Organization
(PLO), and leader of Fatah.
Evidence indicates his Fatah movement had a hidden connection with the >>>> Black September Organization, the group that carried out the attack.
Black September was an offshoot of Fatah, established to avenge the
expulsion of Palestinian guerrillas from Jordan.
In 1993 he led the PLO to a historic peaceSo, I looked it up.
agreement with Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin and the Israeli
government."
Historic peace agreement. Not your typical terrorist then.
You know what, I don't care where his daughter lives. Some european >>>>> world class city, most likely,.
Where do you think the leaders of Hamas live? In Gaza City?
Mostly dead at this point, I suspect. I don't think you know where
they live any better than I do.
After Israel killed Ismail Haniyeh in July 2024 and Yahya Sinwar in
October 2024, Hamas formed a new, five-man leadership council. Most of >>>> this council lives in exile outside of Gaza.
Hamas leaders include:
Khalil al-Hayya: based in Qatar.
Muhammad Darwish: based in Qatar.
Zaher Jabarin: Qatar.
The question is, why are they living Qatar instead with the militants in >>>> Gaza City?
It sounds reasonable to me, given the circumstances. Not that israel
can't target them in quatar.
shields in order to kill Jews. YMMV.
Apparently, billions of dollars have been donated to the Hamas cause.
it's cowardly hiding out like that. Privilaged. Follow the money.
Follow the money. There you are talking about what you don't know.
Billions!
Yep, more of what you don't know.
On 10/5/2025 11:27 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 10/5/25 11:22 AM, Dude wrote:That's one solution.
On 10/4/2025 1:04 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 4 Oct 2025 12:17:15 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:Don't you just hate those Jews!
The Hamas killers are evil - they are the cause of all the killing. >>>>> They
should all be arrested and tried at the Hague for crimes against
humanity.
The israeli killers are evil - they are the cause of all the killing.
They should all be arrested and tried at the Hague for crimes against
humanity.
fuck it just glass the region with trinitite and be done with it
Apparently it's possible, but the main thing is to rescue the remaining hostages and the dead bodies of all the rest that were murdered by the terrorists.
It might be better to just rescue the hostages, kill all the terrorists
and then help the refugees get settled somewhere else. Obviously, the refugees can't live in the Gaza Strip - it's been destroyed by the Hamas.
You've got to wonder: with all the trillions of dollars from oil
production, why can't the Arab League nations help the poor people in Gaza?
For God's sake, the Sheik of Araby has fourteen wives and lives in a
palace!
On 10/5/2025 1:07 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 5 Oct 2025 12:27:31 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:The Hamas destroyed Gaza City by hiding out there after taking 250
On 10/5/2025 11:27 AM, dart200 wrote:By whom? Let's hear you say that shit again.
On 10/5/25 11:22 AM, Dude wrote:That's one solution.
On 10/4/2025 1:04 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 4 Oct 2025 12:17:15 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>Don't you just hate those Jews!
The Hamas killers are evil - they are the cause of all the killing. >>>>>>> They
should all be arrested and tried at the Hague for crimes against >>>>>>> humanity.
The israeli killers are evil - they are the cause of all the killing. >>>>>> They should all be arrested and tried at the Hague for crimes against >>>>>> humanity.
fuck it just glass the region with trinitite and be done with it
Apparently it's possible, but the main thing is to rescue the remaining
hostages and the dead bodies of all the rest that were murdered by the
terrorists.
It might be better to just rescue the hostages, kill all the terrorists
and then help the refugees get settled somewhere else. Obviously, the
refugees can't live in the Gaza Strip - it's been destroyed by the Hamas. >>
hostages.
Apparently, they were thinking they would hold out there until
the Arab League nations came to back them up. Then, they could all rise
up and kill all the Jews.
Instead, because they hid behind civilians, women and children and fired >rockets from the roof tops of the buildings trying to kill Jews, they
were eliminated.
It was a mistake by Hamas to think they could get a state in the UN
using those tactics. Maybe the terrorists thought they could win a war >against Israel. That's just lunacy!
--You've got to wonder: with all the trillions of dollars from oil
production, why can't the Arab League nations help the poor people in Gaza? >>>
For God's sake, the Sheik of Araby has fourteen wives and lives in a palace!
On 10/5/2025 1:06 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 5 Oct 2025 11:22:12 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 10/4/2025 1:04 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 4 Oct 2025 12:17:15 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:Don't you just hate those Jews!
The Hamas killers are evil - they are the cause of all the killing. They >>>>> should all be arrested and tried at the Hague for crimes against humanity.
The israeli killers are evil - they are the cause of all the killing.
They should all be arrested and tried at the Hague for crimes against
humanity.
Nope, don't hate anybody. I simply turned the mirror on who you hate.
You don't hate Jews who are committing genocide on Palestinians?
It all depends on how you load the question.
On 10/5/2025 1:08 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 5 Oct 2025 11:27:43 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 10/4/2025 1:07 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 4 Oct 2025 12:42:02 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:It is cowardly to start a war and hide behind women and children used as >>> shields in order to kill Jews. YMMV.
On 10/3/2025 4:45 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Fri, 3 Oct 2025 16:08:31 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>The Egyptian Yasser Arafat was the main instigator of the Munich massacre.
On 10/3/2025 2:23 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Fri, 3 Oct 2025 14:03:04 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>Correction: everyone but Noah.
On 10/3/2025 1:28 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Fri, 3 Oct 2025 13:08:53 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:Maybe because everyone knows
On 10/2/2025 6:42 PM, Tara wrote:
dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:There is a reason all the top leaders of Hamas are billionaires while
On 10/2/25 3:46 PM, Tara wrote:
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Thu, 2 Oct 2025 21:51:35 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca> wrote:
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Thu, 2 Oct 2025 12:35:44 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 10/2/2025 10:10 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 2 Oct 2025 09:55:52 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
Not going to fall for your whataboutism. The subject at hand is there is
On 10/2/2025 9:08 AM, Tara wrote:
Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca> wrote:Apparently, the Jew hating got started when the Prophet, wanted to be a
Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 02/10/2025 11:36, Julian wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cx2703lnww4t >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
The barbarism of the Manchester synagogue attack >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
It is not often that the news gives you a sick feeling in the pit of
your stomach. Today?s news from Manchester does. Two dead and three
others in a serious condition following a car and stabbing attack
outside Heaton Park Synagogue. Britain must now wear that greatest of
ignominies ? we have become a nation where Jews are murdered at their
place of worship.
Britain must now wear that greatest of ignominies ? we have become a
nation where Jews are murdered at their place of worship.
We await further information about the suspect and the victims. But we
can say with certainty that this is a dark day for our kingdom. One of
the darkest of recent times. For we appear to have been visited by an
apocalyptic form of violence that we normally only read about in the
history books. Next time I read about Kristallnacht or any of the other
murderous events from Europe?s descent into barbarism, I will think:
?Like Heaton Park??
People will ask how such a horror could have occurred. How, in 2025, the
Jews of England could be violently attacked on the holiest day in the
Jewish calendar: Yom Kippur. How, 900 years after the birth of the blood
libel in Norwich and 700 years after their expulsion from England, our
Jewish friends and neighbours still find themselves besieged by
violence. I think I have an answer to that question, and I think many
people will not like it.
We will soon discover, perhaps, what was in the suspect?s mind as he
inflicted such hellish cruelty on the peaceful Jews of Manchester. But
one thing we already know is that anti-Semitism is very often a
slow-burning thing. It brews and bubbles and spreads, sometimes
imperceptibly, before it blows up into acts of outright violence. I
believe this may prove to be the case with Manchester: that it was not
an out-of-the-blue atrocity but rather one that grew like a cancer from
the quiet march of Jew hatred these past two years. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I and others have been begging officialdom and the opinion-forming
classes to take anti-Semitism more seriously. We watched as synagogues
were graffitied with the words ?Free Gaza?. And as Orthodox Jews were
humiliated with the squirts of a water gun. And as faeces were smeared
on Jewish buildings in Golders Green. And as Jews were insulted,
attacked, and, in the case of a Hasidic girl in Stamford Hill, pelted
with a glass bottle. We watched as there was a 589 per cent rise in
anti-Semitic incidents following Hamas?s atrocities of 7 October.
We watched as radical Islamists on those marches against Israel openly
called for the return of the army of Muhammad to finish off the Jews. As
Jewish kids were told they could remove their school blazers on the way
to and from school to escape the attention of Jew-haters. As an elderly
Jewish lady was burnt to death in Colorado by a man shouting ?Free
Palestine?. As a young couple were shot to death outside a Jewish museum
in Washington, DC, also by a man shouting ?Free Palestine?. Such
barbarism might blight Britain next, we said. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
And too often we were ignored. When I think of my Jewish friends who
have been crying out for two years about the slow but steady growth of
anti-Semitism, and about how they were too often ignored or accused of
exaggeration or told they were trying to silence anti-Israel activism,
it makes me feel profoundly ashamed. Jews pleaded for the attention of
politicians and activists and influencers, but they rarely received it.
People looked the other way as Jews said they no longer felt safe in
certain towns and cities in this once great nation. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
It is possible that the horrors of Heaton Park come not from a vacuum,
but from all that. From a culture of silence. From a reluctance to
grapple with the return of Jew hatred to 21st-century Europe. Enough is
enough. The ugly rebirth of anti-Semitism is always a sign that a
society has veered off the path of Enlightenment and taken a very dark
turn indeed. Heaton Park is a warning to Britain, and to humanity. If we
fail to heed it, not only our Jewish citizens but our society itself
will be in greater trouble than we can imagine. Where Jews are not safe
to worship, barbarism has superseded civilisation. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Brendan O?Neill
Have Jews always been persecuted? Anti- Semitism seems to sleep for a
while and then re-birth itself ad infinitum. Why the Jews in particular? I
just don?t get it.
I think some of anti-Semitism is about jealousy. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Jew in Mecca, but for some reason he was rejected. He hated this and it
made him really upset.
So he went back to Medina and got a mob of the local desert tribes and
they went back to Mecca and looted and killed all the Jews in town, men
women and children.
This violent venting and looting was so profitable that the Arabs turned
it into a religion and then spread it all over the Middle East. Looting
and killing Jews all the way to Italy and Spain, killing Jews in the
name of Allah, their god.
That is so cute. Now go back and read about the hutus & the tutsis.
And learn about this pernicious racial hatred thing that humans so
love to do.
no safe place in Britain for Jews.
Not whatabout. It is about understanding human impulses. What humans
do with endless justifications one way or the other. The killing is
always about death regardless.
No safe place? That is julian's inflammatory question. To which tara
responded with a civilized question. I gave my civilized answer.
prosper.Refusing to be victims, the Jews always come back to thrive and
Maybe, it's pay back time. The chickens have come home to roost.
How many Jews have been murdered since the first Jew was born? It's
probably in the millions by now, counting the Nazi persecutions.
And your answer is to wax philosophically distancing yourself from any
coherent answer or solution, calling the headline inflammatory when it?s
actually true and a real problem. Your instruction is to read about the
Hutus and the Tutsis. This is just what humans do, you say. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cop out.
There is nothing philosophical about the tutsi/hutu genocide. It is
death of real people. It is actually true and a real problem. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
My instruction is to understand, be aware. Don't look for who hit who
first, or take sides.
Britain must now wear that greatest of ignominies ? we have become a
nation where Jews are murdered at their place of worship. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
We await further information about the suspect and the victims. But we
can say with certainty that this is a dark day for our kingdom. One of
the darkest of recent times. For we appear to have been visited by an
apocalyptic form of violence that we normally only read about in the
history books. Next time I read about Kristallnacht or any of the other
murderous events from Europe?s descent into barbarism, I will think:
Like Heaton Park??
As if britain were the victim here, and not the real people bleeding
on the floor. Dark day for our kingdom. Not a dark day for the dead
people.
There was a bit in the news this morning about a hamas soldier, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> saying, I don't want hamas to go away. I want to keep fighting. He
isn't the only one. Netty also wants to keep fighting, even though
many israeli citizens are saying, enough.
This is us. This is how it is that we continue to kill each other.
Not that you or I do the killing, but somebody always does, always is,
somewhere.
Do we know what to do about that? I say, we had better figure this
out. It matters. Not that I am smart enough to do that. I am barely
smart enough to say, it matters, figure it out.
My question was specific. Why the Jews.
cause usury? idk
idk either.
most Gazans not affiliated with Hamas live in poverty." - Alan Lamb, Quora
And mr lamb, you know about the wealth of leaders of hamas exactly >>>>>>>>>> how?
There you go again with what everybody knows.
It was on TV and in the newspapers. The daughter of the Egyptian >>>>>>> terrorist Yasser Arafat, has a daughter that lives in London.What you are telling us is what you think you know.
"Yasser Arafat was the first president of the Palestinian Authority >>>>>> (1996-2004), chairman of the Palestinian Liberation Organization
(PLO), and leader of Fatah.
Evidence indicates his Fatah movement had a hidden connection with the >>>>> Black September Organization, the group that carried out the attack. >>>>>
Black September was an offshoot of Fatah, established to avenge the
expulsion of Palestinian guerrillas from Jordan.
In 1993 he led the PLO to a historic peaceSo, I looked it up.
agreement with Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin and the Israeli >>>>>> government."
Historic peace agreement. Not your typical terrorist then.
You know what, I don't care where his daughter lives. Some european >>>>>> world class city, most likely,.
Where do you think the leaders of Hamas live? In Gaza City?
Mostly dead at this point, I suspect. I don't think you know where >>>>>> they live any better than I do.
After Israel killed Ismail Haniyeh in July 2024 and Yahya Sinwar in
October 2024, Hamas formed a new, five-man leadership council. Most of >>>>> this council lives in exile outside of Gaza.
Hamas leaders include:
Khalil al-Hayya: based in Qatar.
Muhammad Darwish: based in Qatar.
Zaher Jabarin: Qatar.
The question is, why are they living Qatar instead with the militants in >>>>> Gaza City?
It sounds reasonable to me, given the circumstances. Not that israel
can't target them in quatar.
Apparently, billions of dollars have been donated to the Hamas cause.
it's cowardly hiding out like that. Privilaged. Follow the money.
Follow the money. There you are talking about what you don't know.
Billions!
Yep, more of what you don't know.
The question is, what happened to all the money?
AI Overview
Based on analyses from late 2023, Hamas's annual revenue was estimated
to be over $1 billion. The group receives funding through a
sophisticated network of international investments, support from state >sponsors like Iran, and revenue generated from its control over the Gaza >Strip.
On 10/5/25 12:27 PM, Dude wrote:
On 10/5/2025 11:27 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 10/5/25 11:22 AM, Dude wrote:That's one solution.
On 10/4/2025 1:04 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 4 Oct 2025 12:17:15 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>Don't you just hate those Jews!
The Hamas killers are evil - they are the cause of all the
killing. They
should all be arrested and tried at the Hague for crimes against
humanity.
The israeli killers are evil - they are the cause of all the killing. >>>>> They should all be arrested and tried at the Hague for crimes against >>>>> humanity.
fuck it just glass the region with trinitite and be done with it
Apparently it's possible, but the main thing is to rescue the
remaining hostages and the dead bodies of all the rest that were
murdered by the terrorists.
It might be better to just rescue the hostages, kill all the
terrorists and then help the refugees get settled somewhere else.
Obviously, the refugees can't live in the Gaza Strip - it's been
destroyed by the Hamas.
You've got to wonder: with all the trillions of dollars from oil
production, why can't the Arab League nations help the poor people in
Gaza?
For God's sake, the Sheik of Araby has fourteen wives and lives in a
palace!
cause the muzzies aren't like one faction anyways
On 10/5/2025 5:53 PM, dart200 wrote:
On 10/5/25 12:27 PM, Dude wrote:The Mullahs all follow one faction: Muslim, the religion based on
On 10/5/2025 11:27 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 10/5/25 11:22 AM, Dude wrote:That's one solution.
On 10/4/2025 1:04 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 4 Oct 2025 12:17:15 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>Don't you just hate those Jews!
The Hamas killers are evil - they are the cause of all the
killing. They
should all be arrested and tried at the Hague for crimes against >>>>>>> humanity.
The israeli killers are evil - they are the cause of all the killing. >>>>>> They should all be arrested and tried at the Hague for crimes against >>>>>> humanity.
fuck it just glass the region with trinitite and be done with it
Apparently it's possible, but the main thing is to rescue the
remaining hostages and the dead bodies of all the rest that were
murdered by the terrorists.
It might be better to just rescue the hostages, kill all the
terrorists and then help the refugees get settled somewhere else.
Obviously, the refugees can't live in the Gaza Strip - it's been
destroyed by the Hamas.
You've got to wonder: with all the trillions of dollars from oil
production, why can't the Arab League nations help the poor people in
Gaza?
For God's sake, the Sheik of Araby has fourteen wives and lives in a
palace!
cause the muzzies aren't like one faction anyways
killing Jews.
On Sun, 5 Oct 2025 17:51:38 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 10/5/2025 1:08 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sun, 5 Oct 2025 11:27:43 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:The question is, what happened to all the money?
On 10/4/2025 1:07 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 4 Oct 2025 12:42:02 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>It is cowardly to start a war and hide behind women and children used as >>>> shields in order to kill Jews. YMMV.
On 10/3/2025 4:45 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Fri, 3 Oct 2025 16:08:31 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>The Egyptian Yasser Arafat was the main instigator of the Munich massacre.
On 10/3/2025 2:23 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Fri, 3 Oct 2025 14:03:04 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>Correction: everyone but Noah.
On 10/3/2025 1:28 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Fri, 3 Oct 2025 13:08:53 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:Maybe because everyone knows
On 10/2/2025 6:42 PM, Tara wrote:
dart200 <user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:There is a reason all the top leaders of Hamas are billionaires while
On 10/2/25 3:46 PM, Tara wrote:
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Thu, 2 Oct 2025 21:51:35 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca> wrote:
Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Thu, 2 Oct 2025 12:35:44 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 10/2/2025 10:10 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 2 Oct 2025 09:55:52 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
Not going to fall for your whataboutism. The subject at hand is there is
On 10/2/2025 9:08 AM, Tara wrote:
Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca> wrote:Apparently, the Jew hating got started when the Prophet, wanted to be a
Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 02/10/2025 11:36, Julian wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cx2703lnww4t >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
The barbarism of the Manchester synagogue attack >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
It is not often that the news gives you a sick feeling in the pit of
your stomach. Today?s news from Manchester does. Two dead and three
others in a serious condition following a car and stabbing attack
outside Heaton Park Synagogue. Britain must now wear that greatest of
ignominies ? we have become a nation where Jews are murdered at their
place of worship.
Britain must now wear that greatest of ignominies ? we have become a
nation where Jews are murdered at their place of worship.
We await further information about the suspect and the victims. But we
can say with certainty that this is a dark day for our kingdom. One of
the darkest of recent times. For we appear to have been visited by an
apocalyptic form of violence that we normally only read about in the
history books. Next time I read about Kristallnacht or any of the other
murderous events from Europe?s descent into barbarism, I will think:
?Like Heaton Park??
People will ask how such a horror could have occurred. How, in 2025, the
Jews of England could be violently attacked on the holiest day in the
Jewish calendar: Yom Kippur. How, 900 years after the birth of the blood
libel in Norwich and 700 years after their expulsion from England, our
Jewish friends and neighbours still find themselves besieged by
violence. I think I have an answer to that question, and I think many
people will not like it.
We will soon discover, perhaps, what was in the suspect?s mind as he
inflicted such hellish cruelty on the peaceful Jews of Manchester. But
one thing we already know is that anti-Semitism is very often a
slow-burning thing. It brews and bubbles and spreads, sometimes
imperceptibly, before it blows up into acts of outright violence. I
believe this may prove to be the case with Manchester: that it was not
an out-of-the-blue atrocity but rather one that grew like a cancer from
the quiet march of Jew hatred these past two years. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I and others have been begging officialdom and the opinion-forming
classes to take anti-Semitism more seriously. We watched as synagogues
were graffitied with the words ?Free Gaza?. And as Orthodox Jews were
humiliated with the squirts of a water gun. And as faeces were smeared
on Jewish buildings in Golders Green. And as Jews were insulted,
attacked, and, in the case of a Hasidic girl in Stamford Hill, pelted
with a glass bottle. We watched as there was a 589 per cent rise in
anti-Semitic incidents following Hamas?s atrocities of 7 October.
We watched as radical Islamists on those marches against Israel openly
called for the return of the army of Muhammad to finish off the Jews. As
Jewish kids were told they could remove their school blazers on the way
to and from school to escape the attention of Jew-haters. As an elderly
Jewish lady was burnt to death in Colorado by a man shouting ?Free
Palestine?. As a young couple were shot to death outside a Jewish museum
in Washington, DC, also by a man shouting ?Free Palestine?. Such
barbarism might blight Britain next, we said. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
And too often we were ignored. When I think of my Jewish friends who
have been crying out for two years about the slow but steady growth of
anti-Semitism, and about how they were too often ignored or accused of
exaggeration or told they were trying to silence anti-Israel activism,
it makes me feel profoundly ashamed. Jews pleaded for the attention of
politicians and activists and influencers, but they rarely received it.
People looked the other way as Jews said they no longer felt safe in
certain towns and cities in this once great nation. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
It is possible that the horrors of Heaton Park come not from a vacuum,
but from all that. From a culture of silence. From a reluctance to
grapple with the return of Jew hatred to 21st-century Europe. Enough is
enough. The ugly rebirth of anti-Semitism is always a sign that a
society has veered off the path of Enlightenment and taken a very dark
turn indeed. Heaton Park is a warning to Britain, and to humanity. If we
fail to heed it, not only our Jewish citizens but our society itself
will be in greater trouble than we can imagine. Where Jews are not safe
to worship, barbarism has superseded civilisation. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Brendan O?Neill
Have Jews always been persecuted? Anti- Semitism seems to sleep for a
while and then re-birth itself ad infinitum. Why the Jews in particular? I
just don?t get it.
I think some of anti-Semitism is about jealousy. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Jew in Mecca, but for some reason he was rejected. He hated this and it
made him really upset.
So he went back to Medina and got a mob of the local desert tribes and
they went back to Mecca and looted and killed all the Jews in town, men
women and children.
This violent venting and looting was so profitable that the Arabs turned
it into a religion and then spread it all over the Middle East. Looting
and killing Jews all the way to Italy and Spain, killing Jews in the
name of Allah, their god.
That is so cute. Now go back and read about the hutus & the tutsis.
And learn about this pernicious racial hatred thing that humans so
love to do.
no safe place in Britain for Jews.
Not whatabout. It is about understanding human impulses. What humans
do with endless justifications one way or the other. The killing is
always about death regardless.
No safe place? That is julian's inflammatory question. To which tara
responded with a civilized question. I gave my civilized answer.
prosper.Refusing to be victims, the Jews always come back to thrive and
Maybe, it's pay back time. The chickens have come home to roost.
How many Jews have been murdered since the first Jew was born? It's
probably in the millions by now, counting the Nazi persecutions.
And your answer is to wax philosophically distancing yourself from any
coherent answer or solution, calling the headline inflammatory when it?s
actually true and a real problem. Your instruction is to read about the
Hutus and the Tutsis. This is just what humans do, you say. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cop out.
There is nothing philosophical about the tutsi/hutu genocide. It is
death of real people. It is actually true and a real problem. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
My instruction is to understand, be aware. Don't look for who hit who
first, or take sides.
Britain must now wear that greatest of ignominies ? we have become a
nation where Jews are murdered at their place of worship. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
We await further information about the suspect and the victims. But we
can say with certainty that this is a dark day for our kingdom. One of
the darkest of recent times. For we appear to have been visited by an
apocalyptic form of violence that we normally only read about in the
history books. Next time I read about Kristallnacht or any of the other
murderous events from Europe?s descent into barbarism, I will think:
Like Heaton Park??
As if britain were the victim here, and not the real people bleeding
on the floor. Dark day for our kingdom. Not a dark day for the dead
people.
There was a bit in the news this morning about a hamas soldier,
saying, I don't want hamas to go away. I want to keep fighting. He
isn't the only one. Netty also wants to keep fighting, even though
many israeli citizens are saying, enough.
This is us. This is how it is that we continue to kill each other.
Not that you or I do the killing, but somebody always does, always is,
somewhere.
Do we know what to do about that? I say, we had better figure this
out. It matters. Not that I am smart enough to do that. I am barely
smart enough to say, it matters, figure it out. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
My question was specific. Why the Jews.
cause usury? idk
idk either.
most Gazans not affiliated with Hamas live in poverty." - Alan Lamb, Quora
And mr lamb, you know about the wealth of leaders of hamas exactly >>>>>>>>>>> how?
There you go again with what everybody knows.
It was on TV and in the newspapers. The daughter of the Egyptian >>>>>>>> terrorist Yasser Arafat, has a daughter that lives in London.What you are telling us is what you think you know.
"Yasser Arafat was the first president of the Palestinian Authority >>>>>>> (1996-2004), chairman of the Palestinian Liberation Organization >>>>>>> (PLO), and leader of Fatah.
Evidence indicates his Fatah movement had a hidden connection with the >>>>>> Black September Organization, the group that carried out the attack. >>>>>>
Black September was an offshoot of Fatah, established to avenge the >>>>>> expulsion of Palestinian guerrillas from Jordan.
In 1993 he led the PLO to a historic peaceSo, I looked it up.
agreement with Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin and the Israeli >>>>>>> government."
Historic peace agreement. Not your typical terrorist then.
You know what, I don't care where his daughter lives. Some european >>>>>>> world class city, most likely,.
Where do you think the leaders of Hamas live? In Gaza City?
Mostly dead at this point, I suspect. I don't think you know where >>>>>>> they live any better than I do.
After Israel killed Ismail Haniyeh in July 2024 and Yahya Sinwar in >>>>>> October 2024, Hamas formed a new, five-man leadership council. Most of >>>>>> this council lives in exile outside of Gaza.
Hamas leaders include:
Khalil al-Hayya: based in Qatar.
Muhammad Darwish: based in Qatar.
Zaher Jabarin: Qatar.
The question is, why are they living Qatar instead with the militants in >>>>>> Gaza City?
It sounds reasonable to me, given the circumstances. Not that israel >>>>> can't target them in quatar.
Apparently, billions of dollars have been donated to the Hamas cause.
it's cowardly hiding out like that. Privilaged. Follow the money.
Follow the money. There you are talking about what you don't know.
Billions!
Yep, more of what you don't know.
AI Overview
Based on analyses from late 2023, Hamas's annual revenue was estimated
to be over $1 billion. The group receives funding through a
sophisticated network of international investments, support from state
sponsors like Iran, and revenue generated from its control over the Gaza
Strip.
AI makes stuff up when it doesn't know the answer.
On Mon, 6 Oct 2025 11:31:27 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 10/5/2025 5:53 PM, dart200 wrote:Religion based on killing jews. What an utterly absurd thing to say.
On 10/5/25 12:27 PM, Dude wrote:The Mullahs all follow one faction: Muslim, the religion based on
On 10/5/2025 11:27 AM, dart200 wrote:
On 10/5/25 11:22 AM, Dude wrote:That's one solution.
On 10/4/2025 1:04 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Sat, 4 Oct 2025 12:17:15 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>Don't you just hate those Jews!
The Hamas killers are evil - they are the cause of all the
killing. They
should all be arrested and tried at the Hague for crimes against >>>>>>>> humanity.
The israeli killers are evil - they are the cause of all the killing. >>>>>>> They should all be arrested and tried at the Hague for crimes against >>>>>>> humanity.
fuck it just glass the region with trinitite and be done with it
Apparently it's possible, but the main thing is to rescue the
remaining hostages and the dead bodies of all the rest that were
murdered by the terrorists.
It might be better to just rescue the hostages, kill all the
terrorists and then help the refugees get settled somewhere else.
Obviously, the refugees can't live in the Gaza Strip - it's been
destroyed by the Hamas.
You've got to wonder: with all the trillions of dollars from oil
production, why can't the Arab League nations help the poor people in
Gaza?
For God's sake, the Sheik of Araby has fourteen wives and lives in a
palace!
cause the muzzies aren't like one faction anyways
killing Jews.
It is a religion based on worshiping god, whatever they imagine him to
be.