• Re: is he a dictator yet?

    From Wilson@wilson@nowhere.net to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Fri Jul 4 12:25:43 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On 7/4/2025 8:00 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:

    NY Times,

    "Attorney General Pam Bondi claimed that Trump has the constitutional
    power to nullify laws, newly disclosed documents show. Some experts
    consider it a stark overreach of presidential authority."

    Stark. Only some experts? How about we agree that we don't need
    experts to tell us such things. We know already. Stark.

    The Supreme Court is widely recognized as having the power to nullify unconstitutional laws. Is it the only branch of government that can do so?

    If a law signed by a previous president is unconstitutional, is the
    current president bound by it until the court rules? If so, how do you
    square that with the oath taken by every president they they must uphold
    the constitution?

    Your pearl clutching is performative political theater designed not to enlighten but to inflame and obfuscate.


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  • From Dude@punditster@gmail.com to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Fri Jul 4 10:12:57 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On 7/4/2025 5:00 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:

    NY Times,

    "Attorney General Pam Bondi claimed that Trump has the constitutional
    power to nullify laws, newly disclosed documents show. Some experts
    consider it a stark overreach of presidential authority."

    Stark. Only some experts? How about we agree that we don't need
    experts to tell us such things. We know already. Stark.

    It's obviously a conspiracy to take over the government so he can be a dictator and boss everyone around, telling us what or what not we can do
    so he can make more money for himself and his tech buddies and make
    farmers go broke.

    First thing he will probably want to do is take over the military and
    get the US into a shooting war so he can make money for the arms industry.

    Maybe he will annex Saudi Arabia and send in troops to take over the oil cartels. Or, start bombing China when they invade Taiwan.

    Maybe he will start sending arms to Ukraine and get the US into a war
    with Russia.

    Or, maybe he will start bombing Iran.



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  • From Dude@punditster@gmail.com to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Fri Jul 4 10:13:57 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On 7/4/2025 9:25 AM, Wilson wrote:
    On 7/4/2025 8:00 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:

    NY Times,

    "Attorney General Pam Bondi claimed that Trump has the constitutional
    power to nullify laws, newly disclosed documents show. Some experts
    consider it a stark overreach of presidential authority."

    Stark.  Only some experts?  How about we agree that we don't need
    experts to tell us such things.  We know already.  Stark.

    The Supreme Court is widely recognized as having the power to nullify unconstitutional laws. Is it the only branch of government that can do so?

    If a law signed by a previous president is unconstitutional, is the
    current president bound by it until the court rules? If so, how do you square that with the oath taken by every president they they must uphold
    the constitution?

    Your pearl clutching is performative political theater designed not to enlighten but to inflame and obfuscate.

    The president can't effectively run the country with every two-bit local
    judge throwing up obstacles for every little thing.

    Apparently, the Supreme Court recently addressed judicial overreach, specifically regarding the use of nationwide injunctions by lower
    courts. In a 6-3 ruling, the Court limited the ability of lower federal
    courts to issue these injunctions, which block the enforcement of
    government policies nationwide.

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  • From Noah Sombrero@fedora@fea.st to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Fri Jul 4 14:01:12 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On Fri, 4 Jul 2025 12:25:43 -0400, Wilson <wilson@nowhere.net> wrote:

    On 7/4/2025 8:00 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:

    NY Times,

    "Attorney General Pam Bondi claimed that Trump has the constitutional
    power to nullify laws, newly disclosed documents show. Some experts
    consider it a stark overreach of presidential authority."

    Stark. Only some experts? How about we agree that we don't need
    experts to tell us such things. We know already. Stark.

    The Supreme Court is widely recognized as having the power to nullify >unconstitutional laws. Is it the only branch of government that can do so?

    If a law signed by a previous president is unconstitutional, is the
    current president bound by it until the court rules? If so, how do you >square that with the oath taken by every president they they must uphold
    the constitution?

    The pres is not the one who has the power to determine that. It takes
    a majority of sc judges to make the decision, not simply one person.

    Your pearl clutching is performative political theater designed not to >enlighten but to inflame and obfuscate.

    Your excusing the himbo's machinations by facile reasoning is designed
    to inflame and obfuscate.
    --
    Noah Sombrero mustachioed villain
    Don't get political with me young man
    or I'll tie you to a railroad track and
    <<<talk>>> to <<<YOOooooo>>>
    Who dares to talk to El Sombrero?
    dares: Ned
    does not dare: Julian shrinks in horror and warns others away

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  • From Noah Sombrero@fedora@fea.st to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Fri Jul 4 14:02:10 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On Fri, 4 Jul 2025 10:13:57 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 7/4/2025 9:25 AM, Wilson wrote:
    On 7/4/2025 8:00 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:

    NY Times,

    "Attorney General Pam Bondi claimed that Trump has the constitutional
    power to nullify laws, newly disclosed documents show. Some experts
    consider it a stark overreach of presidential authority."

    Stark.á Only some experts?á How about we agree that we don't need
    experts to tell us such things.á We know already.á Stark.

    The Supreme Court is widely recognized as having the power to nullify
    unconstitutional laws. Is it the only branch of government that can do so? >>
    If a law signed by a previous president is unconstitutional, is the
    current president bound by it until the court rules? If so, how do you
    square that with the oath taken by every president they they must uphold
    the constitution?

    Your pearl clutching is performative political theater designed not to
    enlighten but to inflame and obfuscate.

    The president can't effectively run the country with every two-bit local >judge throwing up obstacles for every little thing.

    Himbo would have a lot easier time if he was not continually trying to
    expand his powers.

    Apparently, the Supreme Court recently addressed judicial overreach, >specifically regarding the use of nationwide injunctions by lower
    courts. In a 6-3 ruling, the Court limited the ability of lower federal >courts to issue these injunctions, which block the enforcement of
    government policies nationwide.
    --
    Noah Sombrero mustachioed villain
    Don't get political with me young man
    or I'll tie you to a railroad track and
    <<<talk>>> to <<<YOOooooo>>>
    Who dares to talk to El Sombrero?
    dares: Ned
    does not dare: Julian shrinks in horror and warns others away

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  • From Wilson@wilson@nowhere.net to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Fri Jul 4 14:27:23 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On 7/4/2025 2:01 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Jul 2025 12:25:43 -0400, Wilson <wilson@nowhere.net> wrote:

    On 7/4/2025 8:00 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:

    NY Times,

    "Attorney General Pam Bondi claimed that Trump has the constitutional
    power to nullify laws, newly disclosed documents show. Some experts
    consider it a stark overreach of presidential authority."

    Stark. Only some experts? How about we agree that we don't need
    experts to tell us such things. We know already. Stark.

    The Supreme Court is widely recognized as having the power to nullify
    unconstitutional laws. Is it the only branch of government that can do so? >>
    If a law signed by a previous president is unconstitutional, is the
    current president bound by it until the court rules? If so, how do you
    square that with the oath taken by every president they they must uphold
    the constitution?

    The pres is not the one who has the power to determine that. It takes
    a majority of sc judges to make the decision, not simply one person.

    Any of the branches can determine a law is unconstitutional. The remedy
    for such a determination varies depending on the branch.

    Only the president and his executive branch has the power to enforce
    laws. Non-enforcement is effectively nullification.


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  • From Noah Sombrero@fedora@fea.st to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Fri Jul 4 14:32:31 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On Fri, 4 Jul 2025 14:27:23 -0400, Wilson <wilson@nowhere.net> wrote:

    On 7/4/2025 2:01 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Jul 2025 12:25:43 -0400, Wilson <wilson@nowhere.net> wrote:

    On 7/4/2025 8:00 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:

    NY Times,

    "Attorney General Pam Bondi claimed that Trump has the constitutional
    power to nullify laws, newly disclosed documents show. Some experts
    consider it a stark overreach of presidential authority."

    Stark. Only some experts? How about we agree that we don't need
    experts to tell us such things. We know already. Stark.

    The Supreme Court is widely recognized as having the power to nullify
    unconstitutional laws. Is it the only branch of government that can do so? >>>
    If a law signed by a previous president is unconstitutional, is the
    current president bound by it until the court rules? If so, how do you
    square that with the oath taken by every president they they must uphold >>> the constitution?

    The pres is not the one who has the power to determine that. It takes
    a majority of sc judges to make the decision, not simply one person.

    Any of the branches can determine a law is unconstitutional. The remedy
    for such a determination varies depending on the branch.

    Only the president and his executive branch has the power to enforce
    laws. Non-enforcement is effectively nullification.

    He can appoint an attorney general. He cannot tell the AG how to
    decide his cases or what to prosecute. We have been through that up
    here. The AG got fired, and a new one appointed who did what the boss
    wanted. Still kind of slimy, but at least according to law and
    dispersed powers. The prime minister did not attempt to interfere
    with the prosecution in question.
    --
    Noah Sombrero mustachioed villain
    Don't get political with me young man
    or I'll tie you to a railroad track and
    <<<talk>>> to <<<YOOooooo>>>
    Who dares to talk to El Sombrero?
    dares: Ned
    does not dare: Julian shrinks in horror and warns others away

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  • From David LaRue@huey.dll@tampabay.rr.com to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Fri Jul 4 19:30:50 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    Wilson <wilson@nowhere.net> wrote in news:d9c35643babdb050a50225ec2cc09f8ca1c294de@i2pn2.org:

    On 7/4/2025 8:00 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:

    NY Times,

    "Attorney General Pam Bondi claimed that Trump has the constitutional
    power to nullify laws, newly disclosed documents show. Some experts
    consider it a stark overreach of presidential authority."

    Stark. Only some experts? How about we agree that we don't need
    experts to tell us such things. We know already. Stark.

    The Supreme Court is widely recognized as having the power to nullify unconstitutional laws. Is it the only branch of government that can do so?

    If a law signed by a previous president is unconstitutional, is the
    current president bound by it until the court rules? If so, how do you square that with the oath taken by every president they they must uphold
    the constitution?

    Your pearl clutching is performative political theater designed not to enlighten but to inflame and obfuscate.

    A minor point,

    The judiciary branch generally considers issues that have been brought to its attention. The executive branch generally concerns itself with issues for which it was elected. The congressional branch does so too. We all
    recognize that individuals also have personal agendas.
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  • From Wilson@wilson@nowhere.net to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Sat Jul 5 11:19:06 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On 7/4/2025 2:32 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Jul 2025 14:27:23 -0400, Wilson <wilson@nowhere.net> wrote:
    On 7/4/2025 2:01 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:

    The pres is not the one who has the power to determine that. It takes
    a majority of sc judges to make the decision, not simply one person.

    Any of the branches can determine a law is unconstitutional. The remedy
    for such a determination varies depending on the branch.

    Only the president and his executive branch has the power to enforce
    laws. Non-enforcement is effectively nullification.

    He can appoint an attorney general. He cannot tell the AG how to
    decide his cases or what to prosecute. We have been through that up
    here. The AG got fired, and a new one appointed who did what the boss wanted. Still kind of slimy, but at least according to law and
    dispersed powers. The prime minister did not attempt to interfere
    with the prosecution in question.

    That sounds like the Canadian AG was fired and replaced by a compliant
    toady.

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  • From Wilson@wilson@nowhere.net to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Sat Jul 5 11:22:02 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On 7/4/2025 3:30 PM, David LaRue wrote:
    Wilson <wilson@nowhere.net> wrote in news:d9c35643babdb050a50225ec2cc09f8ca1c294de@i2pn2.org:

    On 7/4/2025 8:00 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:

    NY Times,

    "Attorney General Pam Bondi claimed that Trump has the constitutional
    power to nullify laws, newly disclosed documents show. Some experts
    consider it a stark overreach of presidential authority."

    Stark. Only some experts? How about we agree that we don't need
    experts to tell us such things. We know already. Stark.

    The Supreme Court is widely recognized as having the power to nullify
    unconstitutional laws. Is it the only branch of government that can do so? >>
    If a law signed by a previous president is unconstitutional, is the
    current president bound by it until the court rules? If so, how do you
    square that with the oath taken by every president they they must uphold
    the constitution?

    Your pearl clutching is performative political theater designed not to
    enlighten but to inflame and obfuscate.

    A minor point,

    The judiciary branch generally considers issues that have been brought to its attention. The executive branch generally concerns itself with issues for which it was elected. The congressional branch does so too. We all recognize that individuals also have personal agendas.

    Agreed, everyone has an agenda especially politicians.

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  • From Tara@tsm@fastmail.ca to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Sat Jul 5 15:26:26 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On Jul 5, 2025 at 11:22:02 AM EDT, "Wilson" <wilson@nowhere.net> wrote:

    On 7/4/2025 3:30 PM, David LaRue wrote:
    Wilson <wilson@nowhere.net> wrote in
    news:d9c35643babdb050a50225ec2cc09f8ca1c294de@i2pn2.org:

    On 7/4/2025 8:00 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:

    NY Times,

    "Attorney General Pam Bondi claimed that Trump has the constitutional
    power to nullify laws, newly disclosed documents show. Some experts
    consider it a stark overreach of presidential authority."

    Stark. Only some experts? How about we agree that we don't need
    experts to tell us such things. We know already. Stark.

    The Supreme Court is widely recognized as having the power to nullify
    unconstitutional laws. Is it the only branch of government that can do so? >>>
    If a law signed by a previous president is unconstitutional, is the
    current president bound by it until the court rules? If so, how do you
    square that with the oath taken by every president they they must uphold >>> the constitution?

    Your pearl clutching is performative political theater designed not to
    enlighten but to inflame and obfuscate.

    A minor point,

    The judiciary branch generally considers issues that have been brought to its
    attention. The executive branch generally concerns itself with issues for >> which it was elected. The congressional branch does so too. We all
    recognize that individuals also have personal agendas.

    Agreed, everyone has an agenda especially politicians.

    And we vote for the politician who has an agenda close to our own.
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  • From Noah Sombrero@fedora@fea.st to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Sat Jul 5 12:37:59 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On Sat, 5 Jul 2025 11:19:06 -0400, Wilson <wilson@nowhere.net> wrote:

    On 7/4/2025 2:32 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Jul 2025 14:27:23 -0400, Wilson <wilson@nowhere.net> wrote:
    On 7/4/2025 2:01 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:

    The pres is not the one who has the power to determine that. It takes >>>> a majority of sc judges to make the decision, not simply one person.

    Any of the branches can determine a law is unconstitutional. The remedy
    for such a determination varies depending on the branch.

    Only the president and his executive branch has the power to enforce
    laws. Non-enforcement is effectively nullification.

    He can appoint an attorney general. He cannot tell the AG how to
    decide his cases or what to prosecute. We have been through that up
    here. The AG got fired, and a new one appointed who did what the boss
    wanted. Still kind of slimy, but at least according to law and
    dispersed powers. The prime minister did not attempt to interfere
    with the prosecution in question.

    That sounds like the Canadian AG was fired and replaced by a compliant >toady.

    Trudy, right. But he did not try to make himself dictator.
    --
    Noah Sombrero mustachioed villain
    Don't get political with me young man
    or I'll tie you to a railroad track and
    <<<talk>>> to <<<YOOooooo>>>
    Who dares to talk to El Sombrero?
    dares: Ned
    does not dare: Julian shrinks in horror and warns others away

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  • From Noah Sombrero@fedora@fea.st to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Sat Jul 5 12:38:57 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On Sat, 5 Jul 2025 15:26:26 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca> wrote:

    On Jul 5, 2025 at 11:22:02?AM EDT, "Wilson" <wilson@nowhere.net> wrote:

    On 7/4/2025 3:30 PM, David LaRue wrote:
    Wilson <wilson@nowhere.net> wrote in
    news:d9c35643babdb050a50225ec2cc09f8ca1c294de@i2pn2.org:

    On 7/4/2025 8:00 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:

    NY Times,

    "Attorney General Pam Bondi claimed that Trump has the constitutional >>>>> power to nullify laws, newly disclosed documents show. Some experts
    consider it a stark overreach of presidential authority."

    Stark. Only some experts? How about we agree that we don't need
    experts to tell us such things. We know already. Stark.

    The Supreme Court is widely recognized as having the power to nullify
    unconstitutional laws. Is it the only branch of government that can do so? >>>>
    If a law signed by a previous president is unconstitutional, is the
    current president bound by it until the court rules? If so, how do you >>>> square that with the oath taken by every president they they must uphold >>>> the constitution?

    Your pearl clutching is performative political theater designed not to >>>> enlighten but to inflame and obfuscate.

    A minor point,

    The judiciary branch generally considers issues that have been brought to its
    attention. The executive branch generally concerns itself with issues for >>> which it was elected. The congressional branch does so too. We all
    recognize that individuals also have personal agendas.

    Agreed, everyone has an agenda especially politicians.

    And we vote for the politician who has an agenda close to our own.

    Which is where the us is right now. More is the pity.
    --
    Noah Sombrero mustachioed villain
    Don't get political with me young man
    or I'll tie you to a railroad track and
    <<<talk>>> to <<<YOOooooo>>>
    Who dares to talk to El Sombrero?
    dares: Ned
    does not dare: Julian shrinks in horror and warns others away

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  • From Dude@punditster@gmail.com to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Sat Jul 5 09:44:01 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On 7/5/2025 8:26 AM, Tara wrote:
    On Jul 5, 2025 at 11:22:02 AM EDT, "Wilson" <wilson@nowhere.net> wrote:

    On 7/4/2025 3:30 PM, David LaRue wrote:
    Wilson <wilson@nowhere.net> wrote in
    news:d9c35643babdb050a50225ec2cc09f8ca1c294de@i2pn2.org:

    On 7/4/2025 8:00 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:

    NY Times,

    "Attorney General Pam Bondi claimed that Trump has the constitutional >>>>> power to nullify laws, newly disclosed documents show. Some experts
    consider it a stark overreach of presidential authority."

    Stark. Only some experts? How about we agree that we don't need
    experts to tell us such things. We know already. Stark.

    The Supreme Court is widely recognized as having the power to nullify
    unconstitutional laws. Is it the only branch of government that can do so? >>>>
    If a law signed by a previous president is unconstitutional, is the
    current president bound by it until the court rules? If so, how do you >>>> square that with the oath taken by every president they they must uphold >>>> the constitution?

    Your pearl clutching is performative political theater designed not to >>>> enlighten but to inflame and obfuscate.

    A minor point,

    The judiciary branch generally considers issues that have been brought to its
    attention. The executive branch generally concerns itself with issues for >>> which it was elected. The congressional branch does so too. We all
    recognize that individuals also have personal agendas.

    Agreed, everyone has an agenda especially politicians.

    And we vote for the politician who has an agenda close to our own.

    We will be deciding in the next election whose agenda we want to follow.
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  • From Wilson@wilson@nowhere.net to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Sat Jul 5 13:10:35 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On 7/5/2025 12:37 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Jul 2025 11:19:06 -0400, Wilson <wilson@nowhere.net> wrote:

    On 7/4/2025 2:32 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Jul 2025 14:27:23 -0400, Wilson <wilson@nowhere.net> wrote:
    On 7/4/2025 2:01 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:

    The pres is not the one who has the power to determine that. It takes >>>>> a majority of sc judges to make the decision, not simply one person.

    Any of the branches can determine a law is unconstitutional. The remedy >>>> for such a determination varies depending on the branch.

    Only the president and his executive branch has the power to enforce
    laws. Non-enforcement is effectively nullification.

    He can appoint an attorney general. He cannot tell the AG how to
    decide his cases or what to prosecute. We have been through that up
    here. The AG got fired, and a new one appointed who did what the boss
    wanted. Still kind of slimy, but at least according to law and
    dispersed powers. The prime minister did not attempt to interfere
    with the prosecution in question.

    That sounds like the Canadian AG was fired and replaced by a compliant
    toady.

    Trudy, right. But he did not try to make himself dictator.

    He was just found to have violated the Canadian constitution and the
    rights of her citizens.


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  • From Wilson@wilson@nowhere.net to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Sat Jul 5 13:27:00 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On 7/5/2025 1:10 PM, Wilson wrote:
    On 7/5/2025 12:37 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Jul 2025 11:19:06 -0400, Wilson <wilson@nowhere.net> wrote:

    On 7/4/2025 2:32 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Jul 2025 14:27:23 -0400, Wilson <wilson@nowhere.net> wrote: >>>>> On 7/4/2025 2:01 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:

    The pres is not the one who has the power to determine that.  It >>>>>> takes
    a majority of sc judges to make the decision, not simply one person. >>>>>
    Any of the branches can determine a law is unconstitutional. The
    remedy
    for such a determination varies depending on the branch.

    Only the president and his executive branch has the power to enforce >>>>> laws. Non-enforcement is effectively nullification.

    He can appoint an attorney general.  He cannot tell the AG how to
    decide his cases or what to prosecute.  We have been through that up
    here.  The AG got fired, and a new one appointed who did what the boss >>>> wanted.  Still kind of slimy, but at least according to law and
    dispersed powers.  The prime minister did not attempt to interfere
    with the prosecution in question.

    That sounds like the Canadian AG was fired and replaced by a compliant
    toady.

    Trudy, right.  But he did not try to make himself dictator.

    He was just found to have violated the Canadian constitution and the
    rights of her citizens.

    "Just" = "only".


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  • From Noah Sombrero@fedora@fea.st to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Sat Jul 5 14:01:52 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On Sat, 5 Jul 2025 13:10:35 -0400, Wilson <wilson@nowhere.net> wrote:

    On 7/5/2025 12:37 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Jul 2025 11:19:06 -0400, Wilson <wilson@nowhere.net> wrote:

    On 7/4/2025 2:32 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Jul 2025 14:27:23 -0400, Wilson <wilson@nowhere.net> wrote: >>>>> On 7/4/2025 2:01 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:

    The pres is not the one who has the power to determine that. It takes >>>>>> a majority of sc judges to make the decision, not simply one person. >>>>>
    Any of the branches can determine a law is unconstitutional. The remedy >>>>> for such a determination varies depending on the branch.

    Only the president and his executive branch has the power to enforce >>>>> laws. Non-enforcement is effectively nullification.

    He can appoint an attorney general. He cannot tell the AG how to
    decide his cases or what to prosecute. We have been through that up
    here. The AG got fired, and a new one appointed who did what the boss >>>> wanted. Still kind of slimy, but at least according to law and
    dispersed powers. The prime minister did not attempt to interfere
    with the prosecution in question.

    That sounds like the Canadian AG was fired and replaced by a compliant
    toady.

    Trudy, right. But he did not try to make himself dictator.

    He was just found to have violated the Canadian constitution and the
    rights of her citizens.

    True, we don't like him. But he did not resist when the time for him
    to go had obviously come. He did not pull a Himbo 2016 on canadians.
    Did not attempt to thwart and nullify elections nor attempt to find
    hidden votes for himself.

    Which is the way most canadian elections go. As soon as the loosing
    party is announced, the loosing lead of that party resigns, most of
    the time. Exactly like that. But the himbo lookalike Poilievre not
    only was leader of the loosing party, he also lost his seat in
    parliament at the same time. He should be gone. But no, he asked
    that some conservitive candidate that won give up his seat so
    poilievre can have it. He has a volunteer. It looks like there is a
    limit to how soon a winner can give up their seat. Not unheard of,
    but quite uncommon.

    Regardless, nobody is cheating, everybody plays within the rules. And
    nobody cries and whines about loosing.
    --
    Noah Sombrero mustachioed villain
    Don't get political with me young man
    or I'll tie you to a railroad track and
    <<<talk>>> to <<<YOOooooo>>>
    Who dares to talk to El Sombrero?
    dares: Ned
    does not dare: Julian shrinks in horror and warns others away

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  • From Wilson@wilson@nowhere.net to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Sat Jul 5 14:43:12 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On 7/5/2025 2:01 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Jul 2025 13:10:35 -0400, Wilson <wilson@nowhere.net> wrote:

    On 7/5/2025 12:37 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Jul 2025 11:19:06 -0400, Wilson <wilson@nowhere.net> wrote:

    On 7/4/2025 2:32 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Jul 2025 14:27:23 -0400, Wilson <wilson@nowhere.net> wrote: >>>>>> On 7/4/2025 2:01 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:

    The pres is not the one who has the power to determine that. It takes >>>>>>> a majority of sc judges to make the decision, not simply one person. >>>>>>
    Any of the branches can determine a law is unconstitutional. The remedy >>>>>> for such a determination varies depending on the branch.

    Only the president and his executive branch has the power to enforce >>>>>> laws. Non-enforcement is effectively nullification.

    He can appoint an attorney general. He cannot tell the AG how to
    decide his cases or what to prosecute. We have been through that up >>>>> here. The AG got fired, and a new one appointed who did what the boss >>>>> wanted. Still kind of slimy, but at least according to law and
    dispersed powers. The prime minister did not attempt to interfere
    with the prosecution in question.

    That sounds like the Canadian AG was fired and replaced by a compliant >>>> toady.

    Trudy, right. But he did not try to make himself dictator.

    He was just found to have violated the Canadian constitution and the
    rights of her citizens.

    True, we don't like him. But he did not resist when the time for him
    to go had obviously come. He did not pull a Himbo 2016 on canadians.
    Did not attempt to thwart and nullify elections nor attempt to find
    hidden votes for himself.

    Which is the way most canadian elections go. As soon as the loosing
    party is announced, the loosing lead of that party resigns, most of
    the time. Exactly like that. But the himbo lookalike Poilievre not
    only was leader of the loosing party, he also lost his seat in
    parliament at the same time. He should be gone. But no, he asked
    that some conservitive candidate that won give up his seat so
    poilievre can have it. He has a volunteer. It looks like there is a
    limit to how soon a winner can give up their seat. Not unheard of,
    but quite uncommon.

    Regardless, nobody is cheating, everybody plays within the rules. And
    nobody cries and whines about loosing.

    The 2016 "Russia!" fraud perpetrated against Trump and the american
    people by the Dems and their deep state & corporate media handmaidens
    was indeed awful.


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  • From Julian@julianlzb87@gmail.com to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Sat Jul 5 20:48:24 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On 05/07/2025 16:26, Tara wrote:
    On Jul 5, 2025 at 11:22:02 AM EDT, "Wilson" <wilson@nowhere.net> wrote:

    On 7/4/2025 3:30 PM, David LaRue wrote:
    Wilson <wilson@nowhere.net> wrote in
    news:d9c35643babdb050a50225ec2cc09f8ca1c294de@i2pn2.org:

    On 7/4/2025 8:00 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:

    NY Times,

    "Attorney General Pam Bondi claimed that Trump has the constitutional >>>>> power to nullify laws, newly disclosed documents show. Some experts
    consider it a stark overreach of presidential authority."

    Stark. Only some experts? How about we agree that we don't need
    experts to tell us such things. We know already. Stark.

    The Supreme Court is widely recognized as having the power to nullify
    unconstitutional laws. Is it the only branch of government that can do so? >>>>
    If a law signed by a previous president is unconstitutional, is the
    current president bound by it until the court rules? If so, how do you >>>> square that with the oath taken by every president they they must uphold >>>> the constitution?

    Your pearl clutching is performative political theater designed not to >>>> enlighten but to inflame and obfuscate.

    A minor point,

    The judiciary branch generally considers issues that have been brought to its
    attention. The executive branch generally concerns itself with issues for >>> which it was elected. The congressional branch does so too. We all
    recognize that individuals also have personal agendas.

    Agreed, everyone has an agenda especially politicians.

    And we vote for the politician who has an agenda close to our own.

    It's more complicated than that in the UK. :)


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  • From Noah Sombrero@fedora@fea.st to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Sat Jul 5 15:52:02 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On Sat, 5 Jul 2025 14:43:12 -0400, Wilson <wilson@nowhere.net> wrote:

    On 7/5/2025 2:01 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Jul 2025 13:10:35 -0400, Wilson <wilson@nowhere.net> wrote:

    On 7/5/2025 12:37 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Jul 2025 11:19:06 -0400, Wilson <wilson@nowhere.net> wrote:

    On 7/4/2025 2:32 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Jul 2025 14:27:23 -0400, Wilson <wilson@nowhere.net> wrote: >>>>>>> On 7/4/2025 2:01 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:

    The pres is not the one who has the power to determine that. It takes >>>>>>>> a majority of sc judges to make the decision, not simply one person. >>>>>>>
    Any of the branches can determine a law is unconstitutional. The remedy >>>>>>> for such a determination varies depending on the branch.

    Only the president and his executive branch has the power to enforce >>>>>>> laws. Non-enforcement is effectively nullification.

    He can appoint an attorney general. He cannot tell the AG how to
    decide his cases or what to prosecute. We have been through that up >>>>>> here. The AG got fired, and a new one appointed who did what the boss >>>>>> wanted. Still kind of slimy, but at least according to law and
    dispersed powers. The prime minister did not attempt to interfere >>>>>> with the prosecution in question.

    That sounds like the Canadian AG was fired and replaced by a compliant >>>>> toady.

    Trudy, right. But he did not try to make himself dictator.

    He was just found to have violated the Canadian constitution and the
    rights of her citizens.

    True, we don't like him. But he did not resist when the time for him
    to go had obviously come. He did not pull a Himbo 2016 on canadians.
    Did not attempt to thwart and nullify elections nor attempt to find
    hidden votes for himself.

    Which is the way most canadian elections go. As soon as the loosing
    party is announced, the loosing lead of that party resigns, most of
    the time. Exactly like that. But the himbo lookalike Poilievre not
    only was leader of the loosing party, he also lost his seat in
    parliament at the same time. He should be gone. But no, he asked
    that some conservitive candidate that won give up his seat so
    poilievre can have it. He has a volunteer. It looks like there is a
    limit to how soon a winner can give up their seat. Not unheard of,
    but quite uncommon.

    Regardless, nobody is cheating, everybody plays within the rules. And
    nobody cries and whines about loosing.

    The 2016 "Russia!" fraud perpetrated against Trump and the american
    people by the Dems and their deep state & corporate media handmaidens
    was indeed awful.

    See there, that is what I am talking about. Canada does not indulge
    in such fantasies, therefore does not suffer the consequences, which
    would be trudy returning after carney takes a turn.
    --
    Noah Sombrero mustachioed villain
    Don't get political with me young man
    or I'll tie you to a railroad track and
    <<<talk>>> to <<<YOOooooo>>>
    Who dares to talk to El Sombrero?
    dares: Ned
    does not dare: Julian shrinks in horror and warns others away

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  • From Tara@jackpine@airpost.net to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Sat Jul 5 20:22:08 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Jul 2025 13:10:35 -0400, Wilson <wilson@nowhere.net> wrote:

    On 7/5/2025 12:37 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Sat, 5 Jul 2025 11:19:06 -0400, Wilson <wilson@nowhere.net> wrote:

    On 7/4/2025 2:32 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Fri, 4 Jul 2025 14:27:23 -0400, Wilson <wilson@nowhere.net> wrote: >>>>>> On 7/4/2025 2:01 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:

    The pres is not the one who has the power to determine that. It takes >>>>>>> a majority of sc judges to make the decision, not simply one person. >>>>>>
    Any of the branches can determine a law is unconstitutional. The remedy >>>>>> for such a determination varies depending on the branch.

    Only the president and his executive branch has the power to enforce >>>>>> laws. Non-enforcement is effectively nullification.

    He can appoint an attorney general. He cannot tell the AG how to
    decide his cases or what to prosecute. We have been through that up >>>>> here. The AG got fired, and a new one appointed who did what the boss >>>>> wanted. Still kind of slimy, but at least according to law and
    dispersed powers. The prime minister did not attempt to interfere
    with the prosecution in question.

    That sounds like the Canadian AG was fired and replaced by a compliant >>>> toady.

    Trudy, right. But he did not try to make himself dictator.

    He was just found to have violated the Canadian constitution and the
    rights of her citizens.

    True, we don't like him. But he did not resist when the time for him
    to go had obviously come. He did not pull a Himbo 2016 on canadians.
    Did not attempt to thwart and nullify elections nor attempt to find
    hidden votes for himself.

    Which is the way most canadian elections go.

    Most? All.



    As soon as the loosing
    party is announced, the loosing lead of that party resigns, most of
    the time.

    All of the time.

    Exactly like that. But the himbo lookalike Poilievre not
    only was leader of the loosing party, he also lost his seat in
    parliament at the same time. He should be gone. But no, he asked
    that some conservitive candidate that won give up his seat so
    poilievre can have it. He has a volunteer. It looks like there is a
    limit to how soon a winner can give up their seat. Not unheard of,
    but quite uncommon.

    Regardless, nobody is cheating, everybody plays within the rules.

    As grown ups do.

    And
    nobody cries and whines about loosing.

    Ditto.





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  • From Tara@jackpine@airpost.net to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Sat Jul 5 20:28:54 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    Julian <julianlzb87@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 05/07/2025 16:26, Tara wrote:
    On Jul 5, 2025 at 11:22:02 AM EDT, "Wilson" <wilson@nowhere.net> wrote:

    On 7/4/2025 3:30 PM, David LaRue wrote:
    Wilson <wilson@nowhere.net> wrote in
    news:d9c35643babdb050a50225ec2cc09f8ca1c294de@i2pn2.org:

    On 7/4/2025 8:00 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:

    NY Times,

    "Attorney General Pam Bondi claimed that Trump has the constitutional >>>>>> power to nullify laws, newly disclosed documents show. Some experts >>>>>> consider it a stark overreach of presidential authority."

    Stark. Only some experts? How about we agree that we don't need
    experts to tell us such things. We know already. Stark.

    The Supreme Court is widely recognized as having the power to nullify >>>>> unconstitutional laws. Is it the only branch of government that can do so?

    If a law signed by a previous president is unconstitutional, is the
    current president bound by it until the court rules? If so, how do you >>>>> square that with the oath taken by every president they they must uphold >>>>> the constitution?

    Your pearl clutching is performative political theater designed not to >>>>> enlighten but to inflame and obfuscate.

    A minor point,

    The judiciary branch generally considers issues that have been brought to its
    attention. The executive branch generally concerns itself with issues for >>>> which it was elected. The congressional branch does so too. We all
    recognize that individuals also have personal agendas.

    Agreed, everyone has an agenda especially politicians.

    And we vote for the politician who has an agenda close to our own.

    It's more complicated than that in the UK. :)


    The UK is more complicated by nature :)










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