• think so jamelle?

    From Noah Sombrero@fedora@fea.st to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Sat Aug 30 11:26:33 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy



    New York Times logo
    Jamelle Bouie
    August 30, 2025


    "I saw a picture this week. ItAs of a scene in Washington, D.C., taken
    a few days ago.

    In the background, you see the Department of Labor building. Hanging
    on its right side is a large American flag; hanging to its left is a
    huge banner of President Trump with the phrase oAmerican Workers
    FIRST.o It is the presidentAs official portrait, supposedly inspired
    by his mug shot. HeAs glowering, less a servant of the public than a
    stern, unforgiving father. He seems to demand respect and obedience
    without promising anything in return.

    In the foreground of the photo are soldiers, their backs turned away
    from the camera, walking toward the Labor Department building. Because
    of how it was taken, most likely with a telephoto lens, the main
    elements of the photo are compressed together; there is at least a
    city blockAs worth of space between the soldiers and the building, but
    they appear next to each other, Trump staring down at the men just
    below him.

    The photo is clearly meant to evoke the imagery we associate with authoritarianism, or to be a little more precise, show the ways the administration has chosen to associate itself with that visual
    language. The White House wants you to see its kitschy displays of the president and its militarization of the nationAs capital and conclude
    that the game is over and that they have already won.

    A large banner of President Trump and an equally large American flag
    hang from the side of the Department of Labor while National Guard
    troops walk on a street below.
    J. Scott Applewhite/Associated Press
    But as much as the situation might feel that way, it isnAt true. The
    president and his allies have made real strides toward authoritarian
    power in some areas u using broad executive discretion over
    immigration enforcement to turn ICE into a personal goon squad, for
    example u and suffered real setbacks in others. The president must
    also contend with his steady unpopularity and the real possibility
    that no amount of cultivated chaos from the White House will prevent a
    wipeout at the ballot box next year.

    The administration-produced imagery in Washington is, then, a
    projection of sorts u a representation of what the president wants
    reality to be, drawn from its idea of what authoritarianism looks
    like. The banners and the troops u not to mention the strangely
    sycophantic cabinet meetings and news conferences u are a secondhand reproduction of the strongman aesthetic of other strongman states. It
    is as if the administration is building a simulacra of
    authoritarianism, albeit one meant to bring the real thing into being.
    No, the United States is not a totalitarian state led by a sovereign
    Donald Trump u a continental Trump Organization backed by the worldAs
    largest nuclear arsenal u but his favored imagery reflects his desire
    to live in this fantasy.

    oThe spectacle that falsifies reality is nevertheless a real product
    of that reality, while lived reality is materially invaded by the
    contemplation of the spectacle and ends up absorbing it and aligning
    itself with it,o the French social theorist Guy Debord wrote in his
    1967 treatise oThe Society of the Spectacle,o a work that feels
    especially relevant in an age in which mass politics is as much a
    contest to construct meaning as it is to decide the distribution of
    material goods.

    If you follow the president on Truth Social or spend any amount of
    time on Elon MuskAs X, youAll see endless amounts of far-right A.I.
    slop u computer-generated creations pulled together from the nearly
    infinite detritus of the internet and meant to give form to the
    bugbears, obsessions, wishes and desires of the reactionary
    imagination.

    I think the military occupation of Washington, along with much of the
    Trump administrationAs imagery about itself, serves the same semiotic
    purpose as that slop. It represents the world as Trump wants it to be.
    You could say it is a reality, but it is not yet our reality. We still
    have the capacity u and more important, we still have the time u to
    turn ourselves away from this particular vision of the real."



    Wouldn't that be peachy?
    --
    Noah Sombrero mustachioed villain
    Don't get political with me young man
    or I'll tie you to a railroad track and
    <<<talk>>> to <<<YOOooooo>>>
    Who dares to talk to El Sombrero?
    dares: Ned
    does not dare: Julian shrinks in horror and warns others away

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  • From Noah Sombrero@fedora@fea.st to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Sat Aug 30 11:56:52 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On Sat, 30 Aug 2025 11:26:33 -0400, Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st>
    wrote:



    New York Times logo
    Jamelle Bouie
    August 30, 2025


    "I saw a picture this week. ItAs of a scene in Washington, D.C., taken
    a few days ago.

    In the background, you see the Department of Labor building. Hanging
    on its right side is a large American flag; hanging to its left is a
    huge banner of President Trump with the phrase oAmerican Workers
    FIRST.o It is the presidentAs official portrait, supposedly inspired
    by his mug shot. HeAs glowering, less a servant of the public than a
    stern, unforgiving father. He seems to demand respect and obedience
    without promising anything in return.

    In the foreground of the photo are soldiers, their backs turned away
    from the camera, walking toward the Labor Department building. Because
    of how it was taken, most likely with a telephoto lens, the main
    elements of the photo are compressed together; there is at least a
    city blockAs worth of space between the soldiers and the building, but
    they appear next to each other, Trump staring down at the men just
    below him.

    The photo is clearly meant to evoke the imagery we associate with >authoritarianism, or to be a little more precise, show the ways the >administration has chosen to associate itself with that visual
    language. The White House wants you to see its kitschy displays of the >president and its militarization of the nationAs capital and conclude
    that the game is over and that they have already won.

    A large banner of President Trump and an equally large American flag
    hang from the side of the Department of Labor while National Guard
    troops walk on a street below.
    J. Scott Applewhite/Associated Press
    But as much as the situation might feel that way, it isnAt true. The >president and his allies have made real strides toward authoritarian
    power in some areas u using broad executive discretion over
    immigration enforcement to turn ICE into a personal goon squad, for
    example u and suffered real setbacks in others. The president must
    also contend with his steady unpopularity and the real possibility
    that no amount of cultivated chaos from the White House will prevent a >wipeout at the ballot box next year.

    The administration-produced imagery in Washington is, then, a
    projection of sorts u a representation of what the president wants
    reality to be, drawn from its idea of what authoritarianism looks
    like. The banners and the troops u not to mention the strangely
    sycophantic cabinet meetings and news conferences u are a secondhand >reproduction of the strongman aesthetic of other strongman states. It
    is as if the administration is building a simulacra of
    authoritarianism, albeit one meant to bring the real thing into being.
    No, the United States is not a totalitarian state led by a sovereign
    Donald Trump u a continental Trump Organization backed by the worldAs
    largest nuclear arsenal u but his favored imagery reflects his desire
    to live in this fantasy.

    oThe spectacle that falsifies reality is nevertheless a real product
    of that reality, while lived reality is materially invaded by the >contemplation of the spectacle and ends up absorbing it and aligning
    itself with it,o the French social theorist Guy Debord wrote in his
    1967 treatise oThe Society of the Spectacle,o a work that feels
    especially relevant in an age in which mass politics is as much a
    contest to construct meaning as it is to decide the distribution of
    material goods.

    If you follow the president on Truth Social or spend any amount of
    time on Elon MuskAs X, youAll see endless amounts of far-right A.I.
    slop u computer-generated creations pulled together from the nearly
    infinite detritus of the internet and meant to give form to the
    bugbears, obsessions, wishes and desires of the reactionary
    imagination.

    I think the military occupation of Washington, along with much of the
    Trump administrationAs imagery about itself, serves the same semiotic
    purpose as that slop. It represents the world as Trump wants it to be.
    You could say it is a reality, but it is not yet our reality. We still
    have the capacity u and more important, we still have the time u to
    turn ourselves away from this particular vision of the real."



    Wouldn't that be peachy?
    '
    Gotta hand it to those ny times opinion guys. They are so optimistic.
    Andy from canada sees more clearly, I think.
    --
    Noah Sombrero mustachioed villain
    Don't get political with me young man
    or I'll tie you to a railroad track and
    <<<talk>>> to <<<YOOooooo>>>
    Who dares to talk to El Sombrero?
    dares: Ned
    does not dare: Julian shrinks in horror and warns others away

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  • From Dude@punditster@gmail.com to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Sat Aug 30 14:15:14 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On 8/30/2025 8:56 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Sat, 30 Aug 2025 11:26:33 -0400, Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st>
    wrote:



    New York Times logo
    Jamelle Bouie
    August 30, 2025


    "I saw a picture this week. ItrCOs of a scene in Washington, D.C., taken
    a few days ago.

    In the background, you see the Department of Labor building. Hanging
    on its right side is a large American flag; hanging to its left is a
    huge banner of President Trump with the phrase rCLAmerican Workers
    FIRST.rCY It is the presidentrCOs official portrait, supposedly inspired
    by his mug shot. HerCOs glowering, less a servant of the public than a
    stern, unforgiving father. He seems to demand respect and obedience
    without promising anything in return.

    In the foreground of the photo are soldiers, their backs turned away
    from the camera, walking toward the Labor Department building. Because
    of how it was taken, most likely with a telephoto lens, the main
    elements of the photo are compressed together; there is at least a
    city blockrCOs worth of space between the soldiers and the building, but
    they appear next to each other, Trump staring down at the men just
    below him.

    The photo is clearly meant to evoke the imagery we associate with
    authoritarianism, or to be a little more precise, show the ways the
    administration has chosen to associate itself with that visual
    language. The White House wants you to see its kitschy displays of the
    president and its militarization of the nationrCOs capital and conclude
    that the game is over and that they have already won.

    A large banner of President Trump and an equally large American flag
    hang from the side of the Department of Labor while National Guard
    troops walk on a street below.
    J. Scott Applewhite/Associated Press
    But as much as the situation might feel that way, it isnrCOt true. The
    president and his allies have made real strides toward authoritarian
    power in some areas rCo using broad executive discretion over
    immigration enforcement to turn ICE into a personal goon squad, for
    example rCo and suffered real setbacks in others. The president must
    also contend with his steady unpopularity and the real possibility
    that no amount of cultivated chaos from the White House will prevent a
    wipeout at the ballot box next year.

    The administration-produced imagery in Washington is, then, a
    projection of sorts rCo a representation of what the president wants
    reality to be, drawn from its idea of what authoritarianism looks
    like. The banners and the troops rCo not to mention the strangely
    sycophantic cabinet meetings and news conferences rCo are a secondhand
    reproduction of the strongman aesthetic of other strongman states. It
    is as if the administration is building a simulacra of
    authoritarianism, albeit one meant to bring the real thing into being.
    No, the United States is not a totalitarian state led by a sovereign
    Donald Trump rCo a continental Trump Organization backed by the worldrCOs
    largest nuclear arsenal rCo but his favored imagery reflects his desire
    to live in this fantasy.

    rCLThe spectacle that falsifies reality is nevertheless a real product
    of that reality, while lived reality is materially invaded by the
    contemplation of the spectacle and ends up absorbing it and aligning
    itself with it,rCY the French social theorist Guy Debord wrote in his
    1967 treatise rCLThe Society of the Spectacle,rCY a work that feels
    especially relevant in an age in which mass politics is as much a
    contest to construct meaning as it is to decide the distribution of
    material goods.

    If you follow the president on Truth Social or spend any amount of
    time on Elon MuskrCOs X, yourCOll see endless amounts of far-right A.I.
    slop rCo computer-generated creations pulled together from the nearly
    infinite detritus of the internet and meant to give form to the
    bugbears, obsessions, wishes and desires of the reactionary
    imagination.

    I think the military occupation of Washington, along with much of the
    Trump administrationrCOs imagery about itself, serves the same semiotic
    purpose as that slop. It represents the world as Trump wants it to be.
    You could say it is a reality, but it is not yet our reality. We still
    have the capacity rCo and more important, we still have the time rCo to
    turn ourselves away from this particular vision of the real."

    Wouldn't that be peachy?

    Gotta hand it to those ny times opinion guys. They are so optimistic.
    Andy from canada sees more clearly, I think.

    Good one!

    https://postimg.cc/75kcLbdS
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  • From Wilson@absfg_wilson@yahoo.com to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Sun Aug 31 05:45:37 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 8/30/2025 8:56 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Sat, 30 Aug 2025 11:26:33 -0400, Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st>
    wrote:



    New York Times logo
    Jamelle Bouie
    August 30, 2025


    "I saw a picture this week. ItrCOs of a scene in Washington, D.C., taken >>> a few days ago.

    In the background, you see the Department of Labor building. Hanging
    on its right side is a large American flag; hanging to its left is a
    huge banner of President Trump with the phrase rCLAmerican Workers
    FIRST.rCY It is the presidentrCOs official portrait, supposedly inspired >>> by his mug shot. HerCOs glowering, less a servant of the public than a
    stern, unforgiving father. He seems to demand respect and obedience
    without promising anything in return.

    In the foreground of the photo are soldiers, their backs turned away
    from the camera, walking toward the Labor Department building. Because
    of how it was taken, most likely with a telephoto lens, the main
    elements of the photo are compressed together; there is at least a
    city blockrCOs worth of space between the soldiers and the building, but >>> they appear next to each other, Trump staring down at the men just
    below him.

    The photo is clearly meant to evoke the imagery we associate with
    authoritarianism, or to be a little more precise, show the ways the
    administration has chosen to associate itself with that visual
    language. The White House wants you to see its kitschy displays of the
    president and its militarization of the nationrCOs capital and conclude
    that the game is over and that they have already won.

    A large banner of President Trump and an equally large American flag
    hang from the side of the Department of Labor while National Guard
    troops walk on a street below.
    J. Scott Applewhite/Associated Press
    But as much as the situation might feel that way, it isnrCOt true. The
    president and his allies have made real strides toward authoritarian
    power in some areas rCo using broad executive discretion over
    immigration enforcement to turn ICE into a personal goon squad, for
    example rCo and suffered real setbacks in others. The president must
    also contend with his steady unpopularity and the real possibility
    that no amount of cultivated chaos from the White House will prevent a
    wipeout at the ballot box next year.

    The administration-produced imagery in Washington is, then, a
    projection of sorts rCo a representation of what the president wants
    reality to be, drawn from its idea of what authoritarianism looks
    like. The banners and the troops rCo not to mention the strangely
    sycophantic cabinet meetings and news conferences rCo are a secondhand
    reproduction of the strongman aesthetic of other strongman states. It
    is as if the administration is building a simulacra of
    authoritarianism, albeit one meant to bring the real thing into being.
    No, the United States is not a totalitarian state led by a sovereign
    Donald Trump rCo a continental Trump Organization backed by the worldrCOs >>> largest nuclear arsenal rCo but his favored imagery reflects his desire
    to live in this fantasy.

    rCLThe spectacle that falsifies reality is nevertheless a real product
    of that reality, while lived reality is materially invaded by the
    contemplation of the spectacle and ends up absorbing it and aligning
    itself with it,rCY the French social theorist Guy Debord wrote in his
    1967 treatise rCLThe Society of the Spectacle,rCY a work that feels
    especially relevant in an age in which mass politics is as much a
    contest to construct meaning as it is to decide the distribution of
    material goods.

    If you follow the president on Truth Social or spend any amount of
    time on Elon MuskrCOs X, yourCOll see endless amounts of far-right A.I.
    slop rCo computer-generated creations pulled together from the nearly
    infinite detritus of the internet and meant to give form to the
    bugbears, obsessions, wishes and desires of the reactionary
    imagination.

    I think the military occupation of Washington, along with much of the
    Trump administrationrCOs imagery about itself, serves the same semiotic
    purpose as that slop. It represents the world as Trump wants it to be.
    You could say it is a reality, but it is not yet our reality. We still
    have the capacity rCo and more important, we still have the time rCo to
    turn ourselves away from this particular vision of the real."

    Wouldn't that be peachy?

    Gotta hand it to those ny times opinion guys. They are so optimistic.
    Andy from canada sees more clearly, I think.

    Good one!

    https://postimg.cc/75kcLbdS


    That never actually happened. Just ask The NY Times.

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  • From Noah Sombrero@fedora@fea.st to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Sun Aug 31 10:46:34 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

    On Sun, 31 Aug 2025 05:45:37 -0000 (UTC), Wilson
    <absfg_wilson@yahoo.com> wrote:

    Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 8/30/2025 8:56 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Sat, 30 Aug 2025 11:26:33 -0400, Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st>
    wrote:



    New York Times logo
    Jamelle Bouie
    August 30, 2025


    "I saw a picture this week. ItAs of a scene in Washington, D.C., taken >>>> a few days ago.

    In the background, you see the Department of Labor building. Hanging
    on its right side is a large American flag; hanging to its left is a
    huge banner of President Trump with the phrase oAmerican Workers
    FIRST.o It is the presidentAs official portrait, supposedly inspired
    by his mug shot. HeAs glowering, less a servant of the public than a
    stern, unforgiving father. He seems to demand respect and obedience
    without promising anything in return.

    In the foreground of the photo are soldiers, their backs turned away
    from the camera, walking toward the Labor Department building. Because >>>> of how it was taken, most likely with a telephoto lens, the main
    elements of the photo are compressed together; there is at least a
    city blockAs worth of space between the soldiers and the building, but >>>> they appear next to each other, Trump staring down at the men just
    below him.

    The photo is clearly meant to evoke the imagery we associate with
    authoritarianism, or to be a little more precise, show the ways the
    administration has chosen to associate itself with that visual
    language. The White House wants you to see its kitschy displays of the >>>> president and its militarization of the nationAs capital and conclude
    that the game is over and that they have already won.

    A large banner of President Trump and an equally large American flag
    hang from the side of the Department of Labor while National Guard
    troops walk on a street below.
    J. Scott Applewhite/Associated Press
    But as much as the situation might feel that way, it isnAt true. The
    president and his allies have made real strides toward authoritarian
    power in some areas u using broad executive discretion over
    immigration enforcement to turn ICE into a personal goon squad, for
    example u and suffered real setbacks in others. The president must
    also contend with his steady unpopularity and the real possibility
    that no amount of cultivated chaos from the White House will prevent a >>>> wipeout at the ballot box next year.

    The administration-produced imagery in Washington is, then, a
    projection of sorts u a representation of what the president wants
    reality to be, drawn from its idea of what authoritarianism looks
    like. The banners and the troops u not to mention the strangely
    sycophantic cabinet meetings and news conferences u are a secondhand
    reproduction of the strongman aesthetic of other strongman states. It
    is as if the administration is building a simulacra of
    authoritarianism, albeit one meant to bring the real thing into being. >>>> No, the United States is not a totalitarian state led by a sovereign
    Donald Trump u a continental Trump Organization backed by the worldAs
    largest nuclear arsenal u but his favored imagery reflects his desire
    to live in this fantasy.

    oThe spectacle that falsifies reality is nevertheless a real product
    of that reality, while lived reality is materially invaded by the
    contemplation of the spectacle and ends up absorbing it and aligning
    itself with it,o the French social theorist Guy Debord wrote in his
    1967 treatise oThe Society of the Spectacle,o a work that feels
    especially relevant in an age in which mass politics is as much a
    contest to construct meaning as it is to decide the distribution of
    material goods.

    If you follow the president on Truth Social or spend any amount of
    time on Elon MuskAs X, youAll see endless amounts of far-right A.I.
    slop u computer-generated creations pulled together from the nearly
    infinite detritus of the internet and meant to give form to the
    bugbears, obsessions, wishes and desires of the reactionary
    imagination.

    I think the military occupation of Washington, along with much of the
    Trump administrationAs imagery about itself, serves the same semiotic
    purpose as that slop. It represents the world as Trump wants it to be. >>>> You could say it is a reality, but it is not yet our reality. We still >>>> have the capacity u and more important, we still have the time u to
    turn ourselves away from this particular vision of the real."

    Wouldn't that be peachy?

    Gotta hand it to those ny times opinion guys. They are so optimistic.
    Andy from canada sees more clearly, I think.

    Good one!

    https://postimg.cc/75kcLbdS


    That never actually happened. Just ask The NY Times.

    NY Times says biden can pound on a podium if he feels like it.
    Actually the pic only shows him hoisting fists, not pounding.

    But he could if he wanted to.
    --
    Noah Sombrero mustachioed villain
    Don't get political with me young man
    or I'll tie you to a railroad track and
    <<<talk>>> to <<<YOOooooo>>>
    Who dares to talk to El Sombrero?
    dares: Ned
    does not dare: Julian shrinks in horror and warns others away

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