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"New Group Claims AI May Be Aware and Suffering
futurism.com -+ Noor Al-Sibai
Has the world lost its mind? For years, the concept of AI
consciousness has remained on the fringes, with all but the most
powerful proponents of the rCa"
Next up, AI has orgasm. Well, Futurism might not be the best place to
look for real news, but still, the appeal for the human imagination
remains. Why would we want to think such a thing?
On 8/28/2025 7:04 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
"New Group Claims AI May Be Aware and Suffering
futurism.com + Noor Al-Sibai
Has the world lost its mind? For years, the concept of AI
consciousness has remained on the fringes, with all but the most
powerful proponents of the a"
Next up, AI has orgasm. Well, Futurism might not be the best place to
look for real news, but still, the appeal for the human imagination
remains. Why would we want to think such a thing?
Let's ask Stephen King why he comes up with his horror inspirations.
On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 11:02:17 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:"
On 8/28/2025 7:04 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
"New Group Claims AI May Be Aware and Suffering
futurism.com -+ Noor Al-Sibai
Has the world lost its mind? For years, the concept of AI
consciousness has remained on the fringes, with all but the most
powerful proponents of the
Let's ask Stephen King why he comes up with his horror inspirations.
Next up, AI has orgasm. Well, Futurism might not be the best place to
look for real news, but still, the appeal for the human imagination
remains. Why would we want to think such a thing?
Why? He wants to pay the rent and for groceries and hair dos for his
wife.
Where? I suspect Stevie doesn't need any help with that.
On Aug 28, 2025 at 2:14:51rC>PM EDT, "Noah Sombrero" <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 11:02:17 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:"
On 8/28/2025 7:04 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
"New Group Claims AI May Be Aware and Suffering
futurism.com -+ Noor Al-Sibai
Has the world lost its mind? For years, the concept of AI
consciousness has remained on the fringes, with all but the most
powerful proponents of the
Let's ask Stephen King why he comes up with his horror inspirations.
Next up, AI has orgasm. Well, Futurism might not be the best place to >>>> look for real news, but still, the appeal for the human imagination
remains. Why would we want to think such a thing?
Why? He wants to pay the rent and for groceries and hair dos for his
wife.
Where? I suspect Stevie doesn't need any help with that.
Stephen King writes well and tells a very good story. I'm re-reading an older one of his right now called "Billy Summers". No horror in it.
From AI
King writes to make himself happy. If he makes others happy at the same time, that is a bonus. King has said this repeatedly in forwards and afterwards in many of his books.
So there!
On Aug 28, 2025 at 3:40:32rC>PM EDT, "Tara" <tsm@fastmail.ca> wrote:
On Aug 28, 2025 at 2:14:51rC>PM EDT, "Noah Sombrero" <fedora@fea.st> wrote: >>
On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 11:02:17 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:"
On 8/28/2025 7:04 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
"New Group Claims AI May Be Aware and Suffering
futurism.com -+ Noor Al-Sibai
Has the world lost its mind? For years, the concept of AI
consciousness has remained on the fringes, with all but the most
powerful proponents of the
Let's ask Stephen King why he comes up with his horror inspirations.
Next up, AI has orgasm. Well, Futurism might not be the best place to >>>>> look for real news, but still, the appeal for the human imagination
remains. Why would we want to think such a thing?
Why? He wants to pay the rent and for groceries and hair dos for his
wife.
Where? I suspect Stevie doesn't need any help with that.
Stephen King writes well and tells a very good story. I'm re-reading an older
one of his right now called "Billy Summers". No horror in it.
From AI
King writes to make himself happy. If he makes others happy at the same time,
that is a bonus. King has said this repeatedly in forwards and afterwards in >> many of his books.
So there!
You should watch the movie (a classic) "Stand By Me". It's kind of a coming of
age tale and is about a period of time when King was 12 years old. He was writing stories even then.
On Aug 28, 2025 at 3:45:08?PM EDT, "Tara" <tsm@fastmail.ca> wrote:
On Aug 28, 2025 at 3:40:32?PM EDT, "Tara" <tsm@fastmail.ca> wrote:
On Aug 28, 2025 at 2:14:51?PM EDT, "Noah Sombrero" <fedora@fea.st> wrote: >>>
On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 11:02:17 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>"
On 8/28/2025 7:04 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
"New Group Claims AI May Be Aware and Suffering
futurism.com + Noor Al-Sibai
Has the world lost its mind? For years, the concept of AI
consciousness has remained on the fringes, with all but the most
powerful proponents of the
Let's ask Stephen King why he comes up with his horror inspirations.
Next up, AI has orgasm. Well, Futurism might not be the best place to >>>>>> look for real news, but still, the appeal for the human imagination >>>>>> remains. Why would we want to think such a thing?
Why? He wants to pay the rent and for groceries and hair dos for his
wife.
Where? I suspect Stevie doesn't need any help with that.
Stephen King writes well and tells a very good story. I'm re-reading an older
one of his right now called "Billy Summers". No horror in it.
From AI
King writes to make himself happy. If he makes others happy at the same time,
that is a bonus. King has said this repeatedly in forwards and afterwards in
many of his books.
So there!
You should watch the movie (a classic) "Stand By Me". It's kind of a coming of
age tale and is about a period of time when King was 12 years old. He was
writing stories even then.
And at 12, I doubt he had a wife to support or had to pay rent or buy >groceries. He wrote and told stories then because he could and it made him >happy to do it!!! And his friends loved to hear him tell them.
On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 19:59:07 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
On Aug 28, 2025 at 3:45:08?PM EDT, "Tara" <tsm@fastmail.ca> wrote:
On Aug 28, 2025 at 3:40:32?PM EDT, "Tara" <tsm@fastmail.ca> wrote:
On Aug 28, 2025 at 2:14:51?PM EDT, "Noah Sombrero" <fedora@fea.st> wrote: >>>>
On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 11:02:17 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>"
On 8/28/2025 7:04 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
"New Group Claims AI May Be Aware and Suffering
futurism.com -+ Noor Al-Sibai
Has the world lost its mind? For years, the concept of AI
consciousness has remained on the fringes, with all but the most >>>>>>> powerful proponents of the
Why? He wants to pay the rent and for groceries and hair dos for his >>>>> wife.Let's ask Stephen King why he comes up with his horror inspirations. >>>>>
Next up, AI has orgasm. Well, Futurism might not be the best place to >>>>>>> look for real news, but still, the appeal for the human imagination >>>>>>> remains. Why would we want to think such a thing?
Where? I suspect Stevie doesn't need any help with that.
Stephen King writes well and tells a very good story. I'm re-reading an older
one of his right now called "Billy Summers". No horror in it.
From AI
King writes to make himself happy. If he makes others happy at the same time,
that is a bonus. King has said this repeatedly in forwards and afterwards in
many of his books.
So there!
You should watch the movie (a classic) "Stand By Me". It's kind of a coming of
age tale and is about a period of time when King was 12 years old. He was >>> writing stories even then.
And at 12, I doubt he had a wife to support or had to pay rent or buy
groceries. He wrote and told stories then because he could and it made him >> happy to do it!!! And his friends loved to hear him tell them.
No doubt. I heard one time that he read a horror story and thought, I
can do that, so he did.
Anyway, my point was that he does not need any help from ai.
On Aug 28, 2025 at 4:02:30rC>PM EDT, "Noah Sombrero" <fedora@fea.st> wrote:
On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 19:59:07 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
On Aug 28, 2025 at 3:45:08?PM EDT, "Tara" <tsm@fastmail.ca> wrote:
On Aug 28, 2025 at 3:40:32?PM EDT, "Tara" <tsm@fastmail.ca> wrote:
On Aug 28, 2025 at 2:14:51?PM EDT, "Noah Sombrero" <fedora@fea.st> wrote: >>>>>
On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 11:02:17 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>"
On 8/28/2025 7:04 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
"New Group Claims AI May Be Aware and Suffering
futurism.com -+ Noor Al-Sibai
Has the world lost its mind? For years, the concept of AI
consciousness has remained on the fringes, with all but the most >>>>>>>> powerful proponents of the
Why? He wants to pay the rent and for groceries and hair dos for his >>>>>> wife.Let's ask Stephen King why he comes up with his horror inspirations. >>>>>>
Next up, AI has orgasm. Well, Futurism might not be the best place to >>>>>>>> look for real news, but still, the appeal for the human imagination >>>>>>>> remains. Why would we want to think such a thing?
Where? I suspect Stevie doesn't need any help with that.
Stephen King writes well and tells a very good story. I'm re-reading an older
one of his right now called "Billy Summers". No horror in it.
From AI
King writes to make himself happy. If he makes others happy at the same time,
that is a bonus. King has said this repeatedly in forwards and afterwards in
many of his books.
So there!
You should watch the movie (a classic) "Stand By Me". It's kind of a coming of
age tale and is about a period of time when King was 12 years old. He was >>>> writing stories even then.
And at 12, I doubt he had a wife to support or had to pay rent or buy
groceries. He wrote and told stories then because he could and it made him >>> happy to do it!!! And his friends loved to hear him tell them.
No doubt. I heard one time that he read a horror story and thought, I
can do that, so he did.
Anyway, my point was that he does not need any help from ai.
Hmmm. I must have missed your point.
On 8/28/2025 1:05 PM, Tara wrote:
On Aug 28, 2025 at 4:02:30rC>PM EDT, "Noah Sombrero" <fedora@fea.st>
wrote:
On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 19:59:07 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
On Aug 28, 2025 at 3:45:08?PM EDT, "Tara" <tsm@fastmail.ca> wrote:
On Aug 28, 2025 at 3:40:32?PM EDT, "Tara" <tsm@fastmail.ca> wrote:
On Aug 28, 2025 at 2:14:51?PM EDT, "Noah Sombrero" <fedora@fea.st> >>>>>> wrote:
On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 11:02:17 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com>"
wrote:
On 8/28/2025 7:04 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
"New Group Claims AI May Be Aware and Suffering futurism.com -+ >>>>>>>>> Noor Al-Sibai
Has the world lost its mind? For years, the concept of AI
consciousness has remained on the fringes, with all but the most >>>>>>>>> powerful proponents of the
Let's ask Stephen King why he comes up with his horror
Next up, AI has orgasm. Well, Futurism might not be the best >>>>>>>>> place to look for real news, but still, the appeal for the human >>>>>>>>> imagination remains. Why would we want to think such a thing? >>>>>>>>>
inspirations.
Why? He wants to pay the rent and for groceries and hair dos for >>>>>>> his wife.
Where? I suspect Stevie doesn't need any help with that.
Stephen King writes well and tells a very good story. I'm
re-reading an older one of his right now called "Billy Summers". No >>>>>> horror in it.
From AI
King writes to make himself happy. If he makes others happy at the >>>>>> same time,
that is a bonus. King has said this repeatedly in forwards and
afterwards in many of his books.
So there!
You should watch the movie (a classic) "Stand By Me". It's kind of a >>>>> coming of age tale and is about a period of time when King was 12
years old. He was writing stories even then.
And at 12, I doubt he had a wife to support or had to pay rent or buy
groceries. He wrote and told stories then because he could and it
made him happy to do it!!! And his friends loved to hear him tell
them.
No doubt. I heard one time that he read a horror story and thought, I
can do that, so he did.
Anyway, my point was that he does not need any help from ai.
Hmmm. I must have missed your point.
The question was "Why would we want to think such a thing" as AI having
an orgasm and why the appeal for the human imagination remains? Maybe
Stephen King could explain.
On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 19:16:51 -0700, Dude wrote:
On 8/28/2025 1:05 PM, Tara wrote:
On Aug 28, 2025 at 4:02:30?PM EDT, "Noah Sombrero" <fedora@fea.st>The question was "Why would we want to think such a thing" as AI having
wrote:
On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 19:59:07 -0000 (UTC), Tara <tsm@fastmail.ca>
wrote:
On Aug 28, 2025 at 3:45:08?PM EDT, "Tara" <tsm@fastmail.ca> wrote:
On Aug 28, 2025 at 3:40:32?PM EDT, "Tara" <tsm@fastmail.ca> wrote: >>>>>>
On Aug 28, 2025 at 2:14:51?PM EDT, "Noah Sombrero" <fedora@fea.st> >>>>>>> wrote:
On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 11:02:17 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote:"
On 8/28/2025 7:04 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
"New Group Claims AI May Be Aware and Suffering futurism.com + >>>>>>>>>> Noor Al-Sibai
Has the world lost its mind? For years, the concept of AI
consciousness has remained on the fringes, with all but the most >>>>>>>>>> powerful proponents of the
Let's ask Stephen King why he comes up with his horror
Next up, AI has orgasm. Well, Futurism might not be the best >>>>>>>>>> place to look for real news, but still, the appeal for the human >>>>>>>>>> imagination remains. Why would we want to think such a thing? >>>>>>>>>>
inspirations.
Why? He wants to pay the rent and for groceries and hair dos for >>>>>>>> his wife.
Where? I suspect Stevie doesn't need any help with that.
Stephen King writes well and tells a very good story. I'm
re-reading an older one of his right now called "Billy Summers". No >>>>>>> horror in it.
From AI
King writes to make himself happy. If he makes others happy at the >>>>>>> same time,
that is a bonus. King has said this repeatedly in forwards and
afterwards in many of his books.
So there!
You should watch the movie (a classic) "Stand By Me". It's kind of a >>>>>> coming of age tale and is about a period of time when King was 12
years old. He was writing stories even then.
And at 12, I doubt he had a wife to support or had to pay rent or buy >>>>> groceries. He wrote and told stories then because he could and it
made him happy to do it!!! And his friends loved to hear him tell
them.
No doubt. I heard one time that he read a horror story and thought, I >>>> can do that, so he did.
Anyway, my point was that he does not need any help from ai.
Hmmm. I must have missed your point.
an orgasm and why the appeal for the human imagination remains? Maybe
Stephen King could explain.
In Heinlein's _The Moon is a Harsh Mistress_, the computer, "Mike", has
an experience and tells his friend Manny about it, saying now he knows
what "orgasms" must feel like.
Mike was also capable of generating photo-realistic deep
fakes of himself on telescreens.
That was a long stretch from some of his earlier books, where
the computers could only read off their results in binary.