• The Evolution of Tyranny

    From Wilson@Wilson@nowhere.net to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Mon Aug 25 13:09:15 2025
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    https://thepalmerworm.substack.com/p/the-evolution-of-tyranny

    Tyranny does not collapse when men are adapted to servitude. It endures, because man himself has been mutilated into an organism fit only for
    control. The system does not fail; it succeeds beyond recognition. The expectation that tyranny inevitably collapses under its own weight is
    itself one of the most dangerous illusions inherited from a less
    socially engineered age. It presumes that man, when sufficiently
    oppressed, will recoil against his condition and demand liberty. That presumption no longer holds.

    The evidence of the last century demonstrates the opposite; that
    tyranny, when strategically administered, endures by reconstituting man
    so that he desires his servitude and defends the very system that
    degrades him. What fails is not the system but man himself, remade to
    fit the systemrCOs requirements.

    The American Founders foresaw the danger. They warned that once liberty
    was abandoned, citizens would become fit only to be managed as rCyhorses
    and dogsrCO. That phrase might sound like rhetorical flourish but it was
    an anthropological diagnosis.

    To the extent that self-government is abandoned, man ceases to exist as
    a moral agent and must be treated as a domesticated creature.

    The administrative and welfare states proved the point. They did not
    collapse as critics predicted. They thrived because people were
    conditioned to regard dependence as rCysecurityrCO and security as rCyfreedomrCO. Far from resisting their loss of agency, generations adapted
    to it. The system endured precisely because it aligned with their
    appetites, reshaping those appetites in the process.

    This dynamic was not accidental, it was engineered. Educational theory
    was redirected from the formation of judgment to the conditioning of behaviour. Behaviourism replaced moral philosophy, conditioning people
    to respond to incentives rather than to discern truth.

    rCLWe make men without chests and expect of them virtue and enterprise.rCY (C.S. Lewis, Abolition of Man)

    Therapeutic models supplanted conscience, redefining moral
    responsibility as pathology requiring treatment. Schooling trained
    children not to govern themselves but to integrate smoothly into managed systems. The combined effect was to hollow out manrCOs inner constitution, stripping him of the very faculties by which liberty is exercised. The tyrannical system does not need to crush liberty from without when it
    can dissolve the appetite for liberty from within. C.S. Lewis recognized
    this operation with clinical clarity. In his essay The Poison of
    Subjectivism, he diagnosed the decisive maneuver; values were recast as projections of preference rather than objective features of reality.

    rCLIf values are subjective, then manrCOs impulses are the only guides of conductrCa he becomes merely a set of appetites.rCY (Lewis, Poison of Subjectivism)

    Once this subjectivism was accepted, generations could no longer
    conceive of law as grounded in nature and morality discernible by reason.

    rCLLawrCa is founded in nature, and reason is her only expositor.rCY (James Wilson, Lectures on Law)

    In The Abolition of Man, he extended the analysis to its conclusion; the conditioners (technocrats in education, science and governance) would
    not simply rule over men but abolish them, replacing them with pliable creatures suited to scientific management. The very phrase rCyabolition of manrCO was not a metaphor but a precise statement of what occurs when the inner constitution is rewritten to extinguish the desire for liberty.

    Taken together, the Founders and Lewis describe a single continuum. When
    men abandon self-government, they cease to function as men and are
    reduced to beasts of management. When subjectivism supplants realism,
    the possibility of appeal to natural law disappears and conditioning
    takes its place. The welfare state and administrative bureaucracy were
    not aberrations but preparatory stages. They habituated multiple
    generations to accept dependency as normal and to police one another
    against dissent. Algorithmic governance is now the consummation of this process. It does not collapse but perfects the system, removing even the memory of liberty by embedding control into digital protocols that
    appear neutral and scientific.

    rCLWhen subjectivism reigns, there remains no appeal to a law above men.rCY (Lewis, Poison of Subjectivism)

    The forensic truth is this; tyranny does not fail when man is adapted to servitude. It rebrands, evolves and solidifies. The cycle of collapse
    and renewal does not apply where the very anthropology of man has been rewritten.

    rCLThe physical sciences had reached the stage at which man could become
    the master of man.rCY (Lewis)

    What the Founders warned against and Lewis articulated is now fully
    manifest; once man is conditioned to equate management with freedom, the system not only endures but becomes eternal in appearance, for it has abolished the citizen capable of recognizing it as tyranny.

    rCLThe final stage of manrCOs conquest of Nature is the conquest of man by man.rCY (Lewis AOM)

    rCLWhen we forsake the eternal law, human law is nothing but a name for
    that which is dictated by power.rCY (James Wilson)

    The rCyfreedomrCO now being promised is the commodification of your own humanity. This is no longer fiction. It is the Human Ledger. Once man is deconstructed, his body, data, fertility and psychology are commodities.
    What Lewis warned and what Wilson feared, is being monetized under Technocracy.

    rCLThe lawrCa must be regulated by the eternal law. Without it, there is no liberty.rCY (James Wilson)

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  • From Noah Sombrero@fedora@fea.st to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Mon Aug 25 14:12:52 2025
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    On Mon, 25 Aug 2025 13:09:15 -0400, Wilson <Wilson@nowhere.net> wrote:


    https://thepalmerworm.substack.com/p/the-evolution-of-tyranny

    Tyranny does not collapse when men are adapted to servitude. It endures, >because man himself has been mutilated into an organism fit only for >control. The system does not fail; it succeeds beyond recognition. The >expectation that tyranny inevitably collapses under its own weight is
    itself one of the most dangerous illusions inherited from a less
    socially engineered age. It presumes that man, when sufficiently
    oppressed, will recoil against his condition and demand liberty. That >presumption no longer holds.

    Stalin and lenin are gone
    The gulag archipelago is gone
    Putin is here

    The structure change, and new oppressors make the fact of their
    oppressions a matter of opinion.

    The evidence of the last century demonstrates the opposite; that
    tyranny, when strategically administered, endures by reconstituting man
    so that he desires his servitude and defends the very system that
    degrades him. What fails is not the system but man himself, remade to
    fit the systemAs requirements.

    The American Founders foresaw the danger. They warned that once liberty
    was abandoned, citizens would become fit only to be managed as ahorses
    and dogsA. That phrase might sound like rhetorical flourish but it was
    an anthropological diagnosis.

    To the extent that self-government is abandoned, man ceases to exist as
    a moral agent and must be treated as a domesticated creature.

    On the other hand, the french beheaded their aristocracy, and went
    through a series of rebellions to get the government they have now.
    You could have the *opinion* that their current republic is still
    tyrannical but that would not change the historical record. It would
    take a himbo to do that. Right now, they don't have one.

    Tyrannies can fall. The historical record seems to be that
    governments do not fall until they become tyrannies. That happens
    because the charismatic leader who makes it all happens fails to
    replace himself with someone with equal moxie. The other side of the
    problem is that the rare benevolent, decent, ethical leader cannot
    also be replaced with the like. But that usually does not result in
    the death of the democracy.

    The rest of this is mostly more of your "dogma of the libertarian".

    The administrative and welfare states proved the point. They did not >collapse as critics predicted. They thrived because people were
    conditioned to regard dependence as asecurityA and security as
    afreedomA. Far from resisting their loss of agency, generations adapted
    to it. The system endured precisely because it aligned with their
    appetites, reshaping those appetites in the process.

    This dynamic was not accidental, it was engineered. Educational theory
    was redirected from the formation of judgment to the conditioning of >behaviour. Behaviourism replaced moral philosophy, conditioning people
    to respond to incentives rather than to discern truth.

    oWe make men without chests and expect of them virtue and enterprise.o
    (C.S. Lewis, Abolition of Man)

    Therapeutic models supplanted conscience, redefining moral
    responsibility as pathology requiring treatment. Schooling trained
    children not to govern themselves but to integrate smoothly into managed >systems. The combined effect was to hollow out manAs inner constitution, >stripping him of the very faculties by which liberty is exercised. The >tyrannical system does not need to crush liberty from without when it
    can dissolve the appetite for liberty from within. C.S. Lewis recognized >this operation with clinical clarity. In his essay The Poison of >Subjectivism, he diagnosed the decisive maneuver; values were recast as >projections of preference rather than objective features of reality.

    oIf values are subjective, then manAs impulses are the only guides of >conducta he becomes merely a set of appetites.o (Lewis, Poison of >Subjectivism)

    Once this subjectivism was accepted, generations could no longer
    conceive of law as grounded in nature and morality discernible by reason.

    oLawa is founded in nature, and reason is her only expositor.o (James >Wilson, Lectures on Law)

    In The Abolition of Man, he extended the analysis to its conclusion; the >conditioners (technocrats in education, science and governance) would
    not simply rule over men but abolish them, replacing them with pliable >creatures suited to scientific management. The very phrase aabolition of >manA was not a metaphor but a precise statement of what occurs when the >inner constitution is rewritten to extinguish the desire for liberty.

    Taken together, the Founders and Lewis describe a single continuum. When
    men abandon self-government, they cease to function as men and are
    reduced to beasts of management. When subjectivism supplants realism,
    the possibility of appeal to natural law disappears and conditioning
    takes its place. The welfare state and administrative bureaucracy were
    not aberrations but preparatory stages. They habituated multiple
    generations to accept dependency as normal and to police one another
    against dissent. Algorithmic governance is now the consummation of this >process. It does not collapse but perfects the system, removing even the >memory of liberty by embedding control into digital protocols that
    appear neutral and scientific.

    oWhen subjectivism reigns, there remains no appeal to a law above men.o >(Lewis, Poison of Subjectivism)

    The forensic truth is this; tyranny does not fail when man is adapted to >servitude. It rebrands, evolves and solidifies. The cycle of collapse
    and renewal does not apply where the very anthropology of man has been >rewritten.

    oThe physical sciences had reached the stage at which man could become
    the master of man.o (Lewis)

    What the Founders warned against and Lewis articulated is now fully >manifest; once man is conditioned to equate management with freedom, the >system not only endures but becomes eternal in appearance, for it has >abolished the citizen capable of recognizing it as tyranny.

    oThe final stage of manAs conquest of Nature is the conquest of man by
    man.o (Lewis AOM)

    oWhen we forsake the eternal law, human law is nothing but a name for
    that which is dictated by power.o (James Wilson)

    The afreedomA now being promised is the commodification of your own >humanity. This is no longer fiction. It is the Human Ledger. Once man is >deconstructed, his body, data, fertility and psychology are commodities. >What Lewis warned and what Wilson feared, is being monetized under >Technocracy.

    oThe lawa must be regulated by the eternal law. Without it, there is no >liberty.o (James Wilson)
    --
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    or I'll tie you to a railroad track and
    <<<talk>>> to <<<YOOooooo>>>
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  • From vjp2.at@vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Mon Aug 25 19:23:58 2025
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    Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs
    Folks first need food, then shelter, then family, then security, then
    community then democracy..

    N Korea crossed the $300/cap GDP and never tolerated tyranny again
    Same with East europe
    Same with 1950s USA blacks

    Now what happened in RUssia? THey lost security, so tolerated tyranny

    Same thing happened duirng Europe middle ages, leading to feudalism

    Once folks have plenty, they want freedom

    If you keep them hungry, they don't care
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  • From Tara@tsm@fastmail.ca to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Mon Aug 25 19:47:36 2025
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    <vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com> wrote:
    Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs
    Folks first need food, then shelter, then family, then security, then community then democracy..

    N Korea crossed the $300/cap GDP and never tolerated tyranny again
    Same with East europe
    Same with 1950s USA blacks

    Now what happened in RUssia? THey lost security, so tolerated tyranny

    Same thing happened duirng Europe middle ages, leading to feudalism

    Once folks have plenty, they want freedom

    If you keep them hungry, they don't care




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  • From Noah Sombrero@fedora@fea.st to alt.buddha.short.fat.guy on Mon Aug 25 15:59:01 2025
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    On Mon, 25 Aug 2025 19:23:58 -0000 (UTC),
    vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com wrote:

    Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs
    Folks first need food, then shelter, then family, then security, then >community then democracy..

    N Korea crossed the $300/cap GDP and never tolerated tyranny again
    Same with East europe
    Same with 1950s USA blacks

    None of which means that there is no tyranny there. Only that it
    hides, obfuscates, denies.

    Now what happened in RUssia? THey lost security, so tolerated tyranny

    Same thing happened duirng Europe middle ages, leading to feudalism

    Once folks have plenty, they want freedom

    If you keep them hungry, they don't care

    This much is true I suspect, but like many generalizations, it is only
    a generalization.
    --
    Noah Sombrero mustachioed villain
    Don't get political with me young man
    or I'll tie you to a railroad track and
    <<<talk>>> to <<<YOOooooo>>>
    Who dares to talk to El Sombrero?
    dares: Ned
    does not dare: Julian shrinks in horror and warns others away

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