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"A New York state appeals court on Thursday threw out a more than $500 >million civil business fraud penalty imposed on President Donald Trump
and other defendants in connection with a lawsuit by state Attorney
General Letitia James." - MSNBC
"A New York state appeals court on Thursday threw out a more than $500 >million civil business fraud penalty imposed on President Donald Trump
and other defendants in connection with a lawsuit by state Attorney
General Letitia James." - MSNBC
On Thu, 21 Aug 2025 09:49:53 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
"A New York state appeals court on Thursday threw out a more than $500
million civil business fraud penalty imposed on President Donald Trump
and other defendants in connection with a lawsuit by state Attorney
General Letitia James." - MSNBC
Ha, here is the skinny, from the NY Times,
"Court Overturns TrumprCOs Half-Billion Judgment, but Upholds Fraud Case
The New York appeals panel agreed that the fine in President TrumprCOs
civil fraud case was excessive, handing him a financial victory."
Not that himbo is innocent or anything, but $500 mil is too much. I
guess, I can leave that to the judges to decide.
On 8/21/2025 10:50 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Thu, 21 Aug 2025 09:49:53 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
"A New York state appeals court on Thursday threw out a more than $500
million civil business fraud penalty imposed on President Donald Trump
and other defendants in connection with a lawsuit by state Attorney
General Letitia James." - MSNBC
Ha, here is the skinny, from the NY Times,
"Court Overturns TrumpAs Half-Billion Judgment, but Upholds Fraud Case
The New York appeals panel agreed that the fine in President TrumpAs
civil fraud case was excessive, handing him a financial victory."
Not that himbo is innocent or anything, but $500 mil is too much. I
guess, I can leave that to the judges to decide.
The key words are Leticia James, New York State Attorney General, abuse
of power.
"Letitia James' effort to get a 'trophy win' just turned into a
'tremendous victory' for Trump." - Jonathan Turley, Constitutional law >attorney ...
Apparently, Trump was liable for the fraud, the fine of nearly half a >billion dollars was excessive and likely violated constitutional
protections against severe punishment.
On Thu, 21 Aug 2025 11:30:46 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 8/21/2025 10:50 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Thu, 21 Aug 2025 09:49:53 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:The key words are Leticia James, New York State Attorney General, abuse
"A New York state appeals court on Thursday threw out a more than $500 >>>> million civil business fraud penalty imposed on President Donald Trump >>>> and other defendants in connection with a lawsuit by state Attorney
General Letitia James." - MSNBC
Ha, here is the skinny, from the NY Times,
"Court Overturns TrumprCOs Half-Billion Judgment, but Upholds Fraud Case >>> The New York appeals panel agreed that the fine in President TrumprCOs
civil fraud case was excessive, handing him a financial victory."
Not that himbo is innocent or anything, but $500 mil is too much. I
guess, I can leave that to the judges to decide.
of power.
"Letitia James' effort to get a 'trophy win' just turned into a
'tremendous victory' for Trump." - Jonathan Turley, Constitutional law
attorney ...
She is entitled to ask for whatever punishment she thinks is
necessary. It is up to the judges to decide if that is appropriate. I
am remembering a recent trial where the prosecutor of one of himbo's
pals asked for $1 in penalties for the crime. I seem to remember that
the judge did not agree with that either.
Apparently, Trump was liable for the fraud, the fine of nearly half a
billion dollars was excessive and likely violated constitutional
protections against severe punishment.
So thanks for doing you job letitia.
On 8/21/2025 12:35 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Thu, 21 Aug 2025 11:30:46 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 8/21/2025 10:50 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Thu, 21 Aug 2025 09:49:53 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>The key words are Leticia James, New York State Attorney General, abuse
"A New York state appeals court on Thursday threw out a more than $500 >>>>> million civil business fraud penalty imposed on President Donald Trump >>>>> and other defendants in connection with a lawsuit by state Attorney
General Letitia James." - MSNBC
Ha, here is the skinny, from the NY Times,
"Court Overturns TrumpAs Half-Billion Judgment, but Upholds Fraud Case >>>> The New York appeals panel agreed that the fine in President TrumpAs
civil fraud case was excessive, handing him a financial victory."
Not that himbo is innocent or anything, but $500 mil is too much. I
guess, I can leave that to the judges to decide.
of power.
"Letitia James' effort to get a 'trophy win' just turned into a
'tremendous victory' for Trump." - Jonathan Turley, Constitutional law
attorney ...
She is entitled to ask for whatever punishment she thinks is
necessary. It is up to the judges to decide if that is appropriate. I
am remembering a recent trial where the prosecutor of one of himbo's
pals asked for $1 in penalties for the crime. I seem to remember that
the judge did not agree with that either.
Apparently, Trump was liable for the fraud, the fine of nearly half a
billion dollars was excessive and likely violated constitutional
protections against severe punishment.
So thanks for doing you job letitia.
Letitia James, lawfare. What was she thinking?
A clear case of aselectiveA prosecution. Everyone doing business in the
Big Apple inflates property values. An outrageously excessive fine
thrown out.
On Thu, 21 Aug 2025 17:04:28 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 8/21/2025 12:35 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Thu, 21 Aug 2025 11:30:46 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:Letitia James, lawfare. What was she thinking?
On 8/21/2025 10:50 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Thu, 21 Aug 2025 09:49:53 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>The key words are Leticia James, New York State Attorney General, abuse >>>> of power.
"A New York state appeals court on Thursday threw out a more than $500 >>>>>> million civil business fraud penalty imposed on President Donald Trump >>>>>> and other defendants in connection with a lawsuit by state Attorney >>>>>> General Letitia James." - MSNBC
Ha, here is the skinny, from the NY Times,
"Court Overturns TrumprCOs Half-Billion Judgment, but Upholds Fraud Case >>>>> The New York appeals panel agreed that the fine in President TrumprCOs >>>>> civil fraud case was excessive, handing him a financial victory."
Not that himbo is innocent or anything, but $500 mil is too much. I >>>>> guess, I can leave that to the judges to decide.
"Letitia James' effort to get a 'trophy win' just turned into a
'tremendous victory' for Trump." - Jonathan Turley, Constitutional law >>>> attorney ...
She is entitled to ask for whatever punishment she thinks is
necessary. It is up to the judges to decide if that is appropriate. I
am remembering a recent trial where the prosecutor of one of himbo's
pals asked for $1 in penalties for the crime. I seem to remember that
the judge did not agree with that either.
Apparently, Trump was liable for the fraud, the fine of nearly half a
billion dollars was excessive and likely violated constitutional
protections against severe punishment.
So thanks for doing you job letitia.
A clear case of rCyselectiverCO prosecution. Everyone doing business in the >> Big Apple inflates property values. An outrageously excessive fine
thrown out.
Sorry, but you flunked out of law school, if you attended even one
day.
On 8/21/2025 6:18 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Thu, 21 Aug 2025 17:04:28 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 8/21/2025 12:35 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Thu, 21 Aug 2025 11:30:46 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>Letitia James, lawfare. What was she thinking?
On 8/21/2025 10:50 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Thu, 21 Aug 2025 09:49:53 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com>The key words are Leticia James, New York State Attorney General,
wrote:
"A New York state appeals court on Thursday threw out a more than >>>>>>> $500
million civil business fraud penalty imposed on President Donald >>>>>>> Trump
and other defendants in connection with a lawsuit by state Attorney >>>>>>> General Letitia James." - MSNBC
Ha, here is the skinny, from the NY Times,
"Court Overturns TrumprCOs Half-Billion Judgment, but Upholds Fraud >>>>>> Case
The New York appeals panel agreed that the fine in President TrumprCOs >>>>>> civil fraud case was excessive, handing him a financial victory."
Not that himbo is innocent or anything, but $500 mil is too much.-a I >>>>>> guess, I can leave that to the judges to decide.
abuse
of power.
"Letitia James' effort to get a 'trophy win' just turned into a
'tremendous victory' for Trump." --a Jonathan Turley, Constitutional >>>>> law
attorney ...
She is entitled to ask for whatever punishment she thinks is
necessary.-a It is up to the judges to decide if that is appropriate. I >>>> am remembering a recent trial where the prosecutor of one of himbo's
pals asked for $1 in penalties for the crime.-a I seem to remember that >>>> the judge did not agree with that either.
Apparently, Trump was liable for the fraud, the fine of nearly half a >>>>> billion dollars was excessive and likely violated constitutional
protections against severe punishment.
So thanks for doing you job letitia.
A clear case of rCyselectiverCO prosecution. Everyone doing business in the >>> Big Apple inflates property values. An outrageously excessive fine
thrown out.
Sorry, but you flunked out of law school, if you attended even one
day.
We studied this in junior college: U.S. Government 101
There are constitutional protections against severe punishment.
You don't have to be even a law clerk to know that $500 mill is over the top. Obviously, it's a case of selective prosecution in order for
Leticia to look like a big shot and get attention.
Instead, now she looks like a clown, at least in the court and in the
media.
What was she thinking? That a huge award would bring down Trump's Tower?
On 8/21/2025 10:18 PM, Dude wrote:
On 8/21/2025 6:18 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Thu, 21 Aug 2025 17:04:28 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:We studied this in junior college: U.S. Government 101
On 8/21/2025 12:35 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Thu, 21 Aug 2025 11:30:46 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>Letitia James, lawfare. What was she thinking?
On 8/21/2025 10:50 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Thu, 21 Aug 2025 09:49:53 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote:The key words are Leticia James, New York State Attorney General, >>>>>> abuse
"A New York state appeals court on Thursday threw out a more
than $500
million civil business fraud penalty imposed on President Donald >>>>>>>> Trump
and other defendants in connection with a lawsuit by state Attorney >>>>>>>> General Letitia James." - MSNBC
Ha, here is the skinny, from the NY Times,
"Court Overturns TrumprCOs Half-Billion Judgment, but Upholds Fraud >>>>>>> Case
The New York appeals panel agreed that the fine in President TrumprCOs >>>>>>> civil fraud case was excessive, handing him a financial victory." >>>>>>>
Not that himbo is innocent or anything, but $500 mil is too much.-a I >>>>>>> guess, I can leave that to the judges to decide.
of power.
"Letitia James' effort to get a 'trophy win' just turned into a
'tremendous victory' for Trump." --a Jonathan Turley,
Constitutional law
attorney ...
She is entitled to ask for whatever punishment she thinks is
necessary.-a It is up to the judges to decide if that is appropriate. I >>>>> am remembering a recent trial where the prosecutor of one of himbo's >>>>> pals asked for $1 in penalties for the crime.-a I seem to remember that >>>>> the judge did not agree with that either.
Apparently, Trump was liable for the fraud, the fine of nearly half a >>>>>> billion dollars was excessive and likely violated constitutional
protections against severe punishment.
So thanks for doing you job letitia.
A clear case of rCyselectiverCO prosecution. Everyone doing business in the
Big Apple inflates property values. An outrageously excessive fine
thrown out.
Sorry, but you flunked out of law school, if you attended even one
day.
There are constitutional protections against severe punishment.
You don't have to be even a law clerk to know that $500 mill is over
the top. Obviously, it's a case of selective prosecution in order for
Leticia to look like a big shot and get attention.
Instead, now she looks like a clown, at least in the court and in the
media.
What was she thinking? That a huge award would bring down Trump's Tower?
Yes, more or less. The plan was to force him to sell.
On 8/22/2025 7:15 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/21/2025 10:18 PM, Dude wrote:Prosecution of the Trump Company in this case probably cost the NY
On 8/21/2025 6:18 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Thu, 21 Aug 2025 17:04:28 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>We studied this in junior college: U.S. Government 101
On 8/21/2025 12:35 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Thu, 21 Aug 2025 11:30:46 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>Letitia James, lawfare. What was she thinking?
On 8/21/2025 10:50 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Thu, 21 Aug 2025 09:49:53 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote:The key words are Leticia James, New York State Attorney General, >>>>>>> abuse
"A New York state appeals court on Thursday threw out a more >>>>>>>>> than $500
million civil business fraud penalty imposed on President Donald >>>>>>>>> Trump
and other defendants in connection with a lawsuit by state Attorney >>>>>>>>> General Letitia James." - MSNBC
Ha, here is the skinny, from the NY Times,
"Court Overturns TrumpAs Half-Billion Judgment, but Upholds Fraud >>>>>>>> Case
The New York appeals panel agreed that the fine in President TrumpAs >>>>>>>> civil fraud case was excessive, handing him a financial victory." >>>>>>>>
Not that himbo is innocent or anything, but $500 mil is too much.a I >>>>>>>> guess, I can leave that to the judges to decide.
of power.
"Letitia James' effort to get a 'trophy win' just turned into a
'tremendous victory' for Trump." -a Jonathan Turley,
Constitutional law
attorney ...
She is entitled to ask for whatever punishment she thinks is
necessary.a It is up to the judges to decide if that is appropriate. I >>>>>> am remembering a recent trial where the prosecutor of one of himbo's >>>>>> pals asked for $1 in penalties for the crime.a I seem to remember that >>>>>> the judge did not agree with that either.
Apparently, Trump was liable for the fraud, the fine of nearly half a >>>>>>> billion dollars was excessive and likely violated constitutional >>>>>>> protections against severe punishment.
So thanks for doing you job letitia.
A clear case of aselectiveA prosecution. Everyone doing business in the >>>>> Big Apple inflates property values. An outrageously excessive fine
thrown out.
Sorry, but you flunked out of law school, if you attended even one
day.
There are constitutional protections against severe punishment.
You don't have to be even a law clerk to know that $500 mill is over
the top. Obviously, it's a case of selective prosecution in order for
Leticia to look like a big shot and get attention.
Instead, now she looks like a clown, at least in the court and in the
media.
What was she thinking? That a huge award would bring down Trump's Tower?
Yes, more or less. The plan was to force him to sell.
taxpayer millions of dollars, with nothing to show for it. Obviously,
she should be replaced. A clear case of abuse of power.
Trump Tower's reported value has significantly varied, from a high of--
$572 million in 2012 financial statements to a lower range of $225, >according to the New York State Attorney General's Office.
On Fri, 22 Aug 2025 11:09:21 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 8/22/2025 7:15 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/21/2025 10:18 PM, Dude wrote:Prosecution of the Trump Company in this case probably cost the NY
On 8/21/2025 6:18 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:Yes, more or less. The plan was to force him to sell.
On Thu, 21 Aug 2025 17:04:28 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>We studied this in junior college: U.S. Government 101
On 8/21/2025 12:35 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Thu, 21 Aug 2025 11:30:46 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>Letitia James, lawfare. What was she thinking?
On 8/21/2025 10:50 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Thu, 21 Aug 2025 09:49:53 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote:The key words are Leticia James, New York State Attorney General, >>>>>>>> abuse
"A New York state appeals court on Thursday threw out a more >>>>>>>>>> than $500
million civil business fraud penalty imposed on President Donald >>>>>>>>>> Trump
and other defendants in connection with a lawsuit by state Attorney >>>>>>>>>> General Letitia James." - MSNBC
Ha, here is the skinny, from the NY Times,
"Court Overturns TrumprCOs Half-Billion Judgment, but Upholds Fraud >>>>>>>>> Case
The New York appeals panel agreed that the fine in President TrumprCOs
civil fraud case was excessive, handing him a financial victory." >>>>>>>>>
Not that himbo is innocent or anything, but $500 mil is too much.-a I >>>>>>>>> guess, I can leave that to the judges to decide.
of power.
"Letitia James' effort to get a 'trophy win' just turned into a >>>>>>>> 'tremendous victory' for Trump." --a Jonathan Turley,
Constitutional law
attorney ...
She is entitled to ask for whatever punishment she thinks is
necessary.-a It is up to the judges to decide if that is appropriate. I >>>>>>> am remembering a recent trial where the prosecutor of one of himbo's >>>>>>> pals asked for $1 in penalties for the crime.-a I seem to remember that >>>>>>> the judge did not agree with that either.
Apparently, Trump was liable for the fraud, the fine of nearly half a >>>>>>>> billion dollars was excessive and likely violated constitutional >>>>>>>> protections against severe punishment.
So thanks for doing you job letitia.
A clear case of rCyselectiverCO prosecution. Everyone doing business in the
Big Apple inflates property values. An outrageously excessive fine >>>>>> thrown out.
Sorry, but you flunked out of law school, if you attended even one
day.
There are constitutional protections against severe punishment.
You don't have to be even a law clerk to know that $500 mill is over
the top. Obviously, it's a case of selective prosecution in order for
Leticia to look like a big shot and get attention.
Instead, now she looks like a clown, at least in the court and in the
media.
What was she thinking? That a huge award would bring down Trump's Tower? >>>
taxpayer millions of dollars, with nothing to show for it. Obviously,
she should be replaced. A clear case of abuse of power.
Wrong. They have a conviction to show for it. Good job.
On 8/22/2025 2:10 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Fri, 22 Aug 2025 11:09:21 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:
On 8/22/2025 7:15 AM, Wilson wrote:
On 8/21/2025 10:18 PM, Dude wrote:Prosecution of the Trump Company in this case probably cost the NY
On 8/21/2025 6:18 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:Yes, more or less. The plan was to force him to sell.
On Thu, 21 Aug 2025 17:04:28 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>We studied this in junior college: U.S. Government 101
On 8/21/2025 12:35 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Thu, 21 Aug 2025 11:30:46 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>Letitia James, lawfare. What was she thinking?
On 8/21/2025 10:50 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
On Thu, 21 Aug 2025 09:49:53 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:The key words are Leticia James, New York State Attorney General, >>>>>>>>> abuse
"A New York state appeals court on Thursday threw out a more >>>>>>>>>>> than $500
million civil business fraud penalty imposed on President Donald >>>>>>>>>>> Trump
and other defendants in connection with a lawsuit by state Attorney >>>>>>>>>>> General Letitia James." - MSNBC
Ha, here is the skinny, from the NY Times,
"Court Overturns TrumpAs Half-Billion Judgment, but Upholds Fraud >>>>>>>>>> Case
The New York appeals panel agreed that the fine in President TrumpAs >>>>>>>>>> civil fraud case was excessive, handing him a financial victory." >>>>>>>>>>
Not that himbo is innocent or anything, but $500 mil is too much.a I >>>>>>>>>> guess, I can leave that to the judges to decide.
of power.
"Letitia James' effort to get a 'trophy win' just turned into a >>>>>>>>> 'tremendous victory' for Trump." -a Jonathan Turley,
Constitutional law
attorney ...
She is entitled to ask for whatever punishment she thinks is
necessary.a It is up to the judges to decide if that is appropriate. I >>>>>>>> am remembering a recent trial where the prosecutor of one of himbo's >>>>>>>> pals asked for $1 in penalties for the crime.a I seem to remember that >>>>>>>> the judge did not agree with that either.
Apparently, Trump was liable for the fraud, the fine of nearly half a >>>>>>>>> billion dollars was excessive and likely violated constitutional >>>>>>>>> protections against severe punishment.
So thanks for doing you job letitia.
A clear case of aselectiveA prosecution. Everyone doing business in the >>>>>>> Big Apple inflates property values. An outrageously excessive fine >>>>>>> thrown out.
Sorry, but you flunked out of law school, if you attended even one >>>>>> day.
There are constitutional protections against severe punishment.
You don't have to be even a law clerk to know that $500 mill is over >>>>> the top. Obviously, it's a case of selective prosecution in order for >>>>> Leticia to look like a big shot and get attention.
Instead, now she looks like a clown, at least in the court and in the >>>>> media.
What was she thinking? That a huge award would bring down Trump's Tower? >>>>
taxpayer millions of dollars, with nothing to show for it. Obviously,
she should be replaced. A clear case of abuse of power.
Wrong. They have a conviction to show for it. Good job.
The bankers who were the recipients of the allegedly fraudulent Trump >Company's building valuations said that they were not defrauded and
would do business with him again, any time.
The sad fact is, NYC juries are too biased to administer justice.