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On 8/19/2025 12:01 PM, Dude wrote:

Security guarantees for Ukraine are on the table for discussion as
possible NATO-like security guarantees that Ukraine would need for any
peace with Russia to be durable.

Wait! What?

Putin opposes Ukraine joining NATO outright, yet TrumprCOs team claims the Russian leader is open to allies agreeing to defend Ukraine if it comes under attack.

Houston, we have a problem!

Putin does not recognize Ukraine or Crimea as sovereign states with Zelenskyy as President.

A potential peace accord: Apparently, Trump has abandoned a push for a ceasefire. Arguing instead for a full peace agreement, a position held
by Putin.

Moscow has long said itrCOs not interested in a temporary truce and is
seeking a long-term settlement that takes the KremlinrCOs interests into account.
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From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

On 8/21/2025 12:57 PM, Dude wrote:

On 8/19/2025 12:01 PM, Dude wrote:

Security guarantees for Ukraine are on the table for discussion as
possible NATO-like security guarantees that Ukraine would need for any
peace with Russia to be durable.

Wait! What?

Putin opposes Ukraine joining NATO outright, yet TrumprCOs team claims
the Russian leader is open to allies agreeing to defend Ukraine if it
comes under attack.

Houston, we have a problem!

Putin does not recognize Ukraine or Crimea as sovereign states with
Zelenskyy as President.

A potential peace accord: Apparently, Trump has abandoned a push for a ceasefire. Arguing instead for a full peace agreement, a position held
by Putin.

Moscow has long said itrCOs not interested in a temporary truce and is seeking a long-term settlement that takes the KremlinrCOs interests into account.

"Putin demands Ukraine surrender Donbas, give up NATO ambitions and keep Western troops out of country." - Reuters, Aug. 22, 2025, 7:07 a.m.

rCLThe Russians are trying to do anything to avoid the (summit) meeting.
The issue is not the meeting itself, the issue is that they do not want
to end the warrCY Zelenskyy said Friday during a press conference with
NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte, who was visiting Kyiv." - AP
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From Newsgroup: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy

On Fri, 22 Aug 2025 09:56:32 -0700, Dude <punditster@gmail.com> wrote:

On 8/21/2025 12:57 PM, Dude wrote:

On 8/19/2025 12:01 PM, Dude wrote:

Security guarantees for Ukraine are on the table for discussion as
possible NATO-like security guarantees that Ukraine would need for any
peace with Russia to be durable.

Wait! What?

Putin opposes Ukraine joining NATO outright, yet TrumpAs team claims
the Russian leader is open to allies agreeing to defend Ukraine if it
comes under attack.

Houston, we have a problem!

Putin does not recognize Ukraine or Crimea as sovereign states with
Zelenskyy as President.

A potential peace accord: Apparently, Trump has abandoned a push for a
ceasefire. Arguing instead for a full peace agreement, a position held
by Putin.

Moscow has long said itAs not interested in a temporary truce and is
seeking a long-term settlement that takes the KremlinAs interests into
account.

"Putin demands Ukraine surrender Donbas, give up NATO ambitions and keep >Western troops out of country." - Reuters, Aug. 22, 2025, 7:07 a.m.

oThe Russians are trying to do anything to avoid the (summit) meeting.
The issue is not the meeting itself, the issue is that they do not want
to end the waro Zelenskyy said Friday during a press conference with
NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte, who was visiting Kyiv." - AP

As long as they believe they can get what they want without compromise
by continuing, why not?
--
Noah Sombrero mustachioed villain
Don't get political with me young man
or I'll tie you to a railroad track and
<<<talk>>> to <<<YOOooooo>>>
Who dares to talk to El Sombrero?
dares: Ned
does not dare: Julian shrinks in horror and warns others away

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