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always reading fkd up bibles make you tell lies, and God said you
would, and here you are doing it JW

On 11/25/2024 2:40 PM, zebra2@windstream.net wrote:

On Fri, 22 Nov 2024 16:53:24 -0800, teslaStinker <truecatholicstaff@truecarpentry.org> wrote:

On 11/22/2024 2:49 PM, zebra2@windstream.net wrote:

On Mon, 18 Nov 2024 13:11:54 -0800, None<none@none.non> wrote:

On Nov 18, 2024, zebra2@windstream.net wrote
(Message-ID:<e5kmjj9o3jkh6cvjvrodasi49oqef5uv18@4ax.com>):

On Mon, 18 Nov 2024 09:26:38 +1100, In the Name of Jesus
<michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> wrote:

You know the truth.

Morning, hope all is well.

Sorry to rain on your parade. but most of Christendom does not know
ALL the Bible truths. I am not going to go into details here, but
rather just list some 'false truths':

--Jesus is Jehovah. That would mean Jesus raised himself from the
dead. (great trick if you can pull it off)

False statement created by inability to read the scripture. His Father raised
him from the dead.

If Jesus IS God, then he raised himself. No getting around it.

no. acts 2, states, he had not a corrupted body, unlike yours.
when you go to hell, you will corrupt. Count on it.. excommunicated idiot. >>
And if that is true, of which it is, Jesus was a ghost yes.

30 Whereas therefore he was a prophet, and knew that God hath sworn to
him with an oath, that of the fruit of his loins one should sit upon his
throne. 31 Foreseeing this, he spoke of the resurrection of Christ. For
neither was he left in hell, neither did his flesh see corruption.
32 This Jesus hath God raised again, whereof all we are witnesses.

33 Being exalted therefore by the right hand of God, and having received
of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath poured forth this
which you see and hear. 34 For David ascended not into heaven; but he
himself said: The Lord said to my Lord, sit thou on my right hand,
35 Until I make thy enemies thy footstool.

he was actually a ghost of the Holy Ghost, uncorupted body yes. Dead,

no. Yes God raised Him. Yes, a ghost. A Perfect Body. So you see,
your full of shit telling people, there is no biblical ghost, when
there is. He is proof. Himself. Perfect Body.

I am talking about those 'ghosts' people see in haunted houses, etc.
And they believe ghosts are dead humans, coming back to haunt them.
That Biblically can't happen. Why? Dead humans are not conscious
anywhere.

Concerning the dead:

--"the dead know nothing" (Ec 9:5; NIV))

--"In that very day his thoughts perish." (Ps 146:4; NASB)

--"Our friend Lazarus has fallen asleep...Lazarus has died." (NAB; Mt 11:11-14)

--"The dead do not praise the Lord, Nor do any who go down into
silence;" (Ps 115:17; NASB)

stop reading your goofed up fake changed Bibles by the devil, and you
just may agree and say, one day,,,,its true

The NWT Bible is the most accurate of all. You have been listening to
false Christians. And I can prove it.

God's name is found in the Bible about 7000 times in the form of the
Hebrew Tetragrammaton YHWH. Most all Bible translators have removed
it, and ADDED into their Bible the word "Lord" etc, instead. The word
"Lord" is a title, not a name.

So it's likely that your Bible has those about 7000 errors. Not a good
start is it. THEY EVEN MAKE GOD A LIAR!! Notice:

-- New King James
Exodus 6:3 "I appeared to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, as God
Almighty, but by My name, Lord, I was not known to them.

Lord is a title, not a name. Now for more accuracy:

(Exodus 6:3) And I used to appear to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob as God Almighty, but with regard to my name Jehovah I did not make myself
known to them. (NWT)

-- King James
Exodus 6:3 And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob,
by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to
them.

-- American Standard
Exodus 6:3 and I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob,
as God Almighty; but by my name Jehovah I was not known to them.

-- Young's Bible
Exodus 6:3 and I appear unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, as
God Almighty; as to My name Jehovah, I have not been known to them;

-- Darby's Bible
Exodus 6:3 And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob,
as the Almighty God; but by my name Jehovah I was not made known to
them.

-- Webster's Bible
Exodus 6:3 And I appeared to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, by [the
name of] God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them.

Sincerely James.
Woman and God.
Bible discussion on it at
JW.org 11/25/2024

--People have an immortal soul. But the Bible says a soul [Heb
nephesh] CAN DIE. (Eze 18:4 KJV) Also, biblically, fish are also
souls:

Immortal is immortal, whether it be with the Heavenly Father or residing in
the lake of Fire and Brimstone. Death, in this case, means separation from >>>> GOD.

Then why did Job desire death? Did he really want to be separated from
God? (Job 14:13) Actually Job wanted to go to hell (sheol) to get
relief.

-- Darby's Bible
Genesis 1:20 And God said, Let the waters swarm with swarms of living >>>>> souls, [Heb nephesh] and let fowl fly above the earth in the expanse >>>>> of the heavens.

And souls have physical blood". (Genesis 9:5 KJV) lives= (nephesh;
souls.)

Nephesh = the whole of the being

Yes, when God created Adam, and Adam became alive, Adam became a
living "soul", he wasn't given one. (Gen 2:7)

--God is a Trinity. Yet Deut says God is "ONE". (Deut 6:4)
Maybe God is one, is not meant in the Trinity sense. The medieval
scholastics tried but failed to make sense out of it, eventually
deciding that only faith could resolve the Trinity for any given
believer.

This has, ultimately, ended up being the position of most of
Christendom: That the Trinity is true even though itAs
incomprehensible; faith is the only way to accept it. 3=1=3.

No, it has not, and the RCC is not the whole of the Church, it is only a >>>> part, and very erroneous, albeit not as bad as the JW.

Good. You have set the JW's aside as not being a part of the churches.
As the only true religion, we will be persecuted just as Jesus said.

Jesus brought true Bible teachings to the Jews back then. By doing so,
he stepped on religious leader's toes. Eventually they killed him. We
shouldn't expect any less.

Then we should do the same for Zeus or Ra. Just accept them on faith. >>>>> Right?

That is what the RCC currently teach. Which the pope has reiterated three >>>> time this year.

You have to hand it to Satan. He has the churches in his hands, and
has them believing in an illogical doctrine, the Trinity. And worse
yet, has them believing God is a sadist that cooks His misbehaving
children in a literal fire forever. Yes he is a master at deception.

But he is angry at JW's, because they don't fall for his lies. Unless
God stops him, he would wipe them out in an instant. Yes, there is
only "one faith" (Eph 4:5), not many conflicting ones. The Christ does
not exist divided.

"That it was constructed not out of a desire to understand God, but
from a vendetta against a heresy (e.g. Arianism), is perhaps what
makes it as nonsensical as it seems. It was not designed as a rational >>>>> theology; it was designed only to refute other theologies."
(http://www.earlychristianhistory.info/trinity.html"

You can believe what you want and assign your beliefs to others, yet it does
not justify your thinking.

The Holy Bible justifies our thinking. And the JW's are the only ones
fulfilling Mt 24:14 globally, and the prophecy of Isa 2:2-4. (see
American Standard Bible)

--The dead still live on after death. (then they are not really dead, >>>>> are they?) Yet the Bible disagrees.

When the tent of the Human, their body, a tabernacle, dies it is dead. >>>> Returns to dust from which it came. Yet their spirit and soul dwell on. As >>>> mentioned above as well as in scripture. How else did Samuel speak to King >>>> Saul after he died? Or do you not believe all of the scripture?

Did you carefully look at the context? Concerning Saul's experience
with the witch of En-dor (1 Sa 28:7-19), the context shows Saul at
that time was not obeying God. For example, 1 Sa 28:5,6 shows that God
was not supporting Saul at that time:

"5. When Saul saw the Philistine army, he was afraid; terror filled
his heart.
6. He inquired of the LORD, but the LORD did not answer him by
dreams or Urim or prophets." (NIV)

And Saul even admits this in verse 15, "God has turned away from me."

And since the Bible clearly says at Ec 9:5, 10 and Ps 146:3,4 the dead
are not conscience of anything, then there is no way that the witch
could talk to any dead person. (Samuel was in the grave at that time.
The Bible calls it "sheol"; the place where all the dead went)

Saul next decides to break another one of God's laws, and seek out a
person who claims to talk to dead people. This was in clear violation
of De 18:10-12,

"10. Let no one be found among you who sacrifices his son or daughter
in the fire, who practices divination or sorcery, interprets omens,
engages in witchcraft,
11. or casts spells, or who is a medium or spiritist or who consults >>> the dead.
12. Anyone who does these things is detestable to the LORD, and
because of these detestable practices the LORD your God will drive out
those nations before you."

There is a good reason why God didn't want people trying to make
communications with dead people. That is because since dead people
cannot talk to anyone, then if someone did make contact with an
alleged dead person, that 'person' had to be Satan or a demon
impersonating that dead person. 2 Co 11:14 ,

"And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light."
(NIV)

(see also 2 Th 2:9)

And talking to lying, deceitful demons is not going to make things
better for a person in the long run, no more than if you take advice
from a con man.

And just a couple more thoughts here. Even if somehow Saul was really
talking to Samuel, why would Samuel be a participant with a witch to
communicate with Saul, something the righteous Samuel knew to be
against God? (De 18:10-12) And why would Samuel talk to Saul now,
seeing that when he was alive he REFUSED to see the unrighteous Saul?
(1 Sa 15:35)

No, this was not the righteous Samuel of the Bible. Rather Saul was
communicating with something, THROUGH a spirit medium witch.

So in summary, Saul was wicked at the time, and he sought out a wicked
person to get his information. And since the Bible shows the dead are
not conscience and cannot speak to anyone, Saul could not have been
talking to Samuel himself, but rather it had to be an impersonator of
Samuel, a wicked demon spirit. And that is why God warns His servants
to not inquire of the dead, so as not to be mislead by them.

--"the dead know nothing" (Ec 9:5; NIV))

--"In that very day his thoughts perish." (Ps 146:4; NASB)

--"Our friend Lazarus has fallen asleep...Lazarus has died." (NAB;
John 11:11-14)

--"The dead do not praise the Lord, Nor do any who go down into
silence;" (Ps 115:17; NASB)

-- King James
Psalms 13:3 Consider and hear me, O Lord my God: lighten mine eyes,
lest I sleep the sleep of death;

-- William's NewTestament
Acts 7:60 Then he fell on his knees and cried out, "Lord, do not
charge this sin on the book against them!"<w> On saying this he fell >>>>> asleep in death.

- New King James
Acts 13:36 "For David, after he had served his own generation by the >>>>> will of God, fell asleep, was buried with his fathers, and saw
corruption;

it was speaking of the ghost, not the Body, an not his own generation,
as your corrupt lying Bible says, cause true Bible says it was not
after he served, but during him serving, and he did not fall asleep,
but was already asleep, and that makes you a dam fkn liar about
ghosts. A generation is a section of time, not specific people

36 For David, when he had served in his generation, according to the
will of God, slept: and was laid unto his fathers, and saw corruption.

Obviously these were speaking of the Body, but not the Person. IOW their >>>> tabernacle, or do you disagree with the scripture.

It is because of Scripture, that I believe the way I do.

Look carefully at Jesus' words about his dead friend, Lazarus:

-- New King James
John 11:11 These things He said, and after that He said to them, "Our
friend Lazarus sleeps, but I go that I may wake him up.''

Jesus was not talking about a dead body, but about THE MAN Lazarus.
The man Lazarus was sleeping (dead), Jesus was going to wake HIM (not
just a body) up.

I have more to show you, but these should make the point. The Bible
equates death with sleeping. You can't get around that. Do you believe >>>>> what God says, or what men say?

Do you?

I am not talking about what the Bible says just to kill time.

You know He is the truth.

Not by the churches. They make Jesus out to be a liar. For just one
example. Jesus said the dead are sleeping. John 11:11-14) Churches say >>>>> the dead continue to live, and either go to Heaven or to hellfire. So >>>>> that means either Jesus lied, or the Churches know more than Jesus.
You pick one.

When you die, per your cult. You are dead, gone forever, non-existent. If you
truly believe that, then why mess with any cult or religion. After all, what
is the point? You live, you die, you wasted your time as a human, and were >>>> forced to live in a religious state, that benefitted no one, not even
yourself.

Yes, Satan wants you to believe such malarkey. Yes, all the dead now
are as Jesus said "sleeping". But don't forget Acts 24:15:

-- New King James
Acts 24:15 "I have hope in God, which they themselves also accept,
that there will be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and
the unjust.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBVJVNWkYzE

Everyone needs to spiritually wake up and have a strong cup of Bible. >>>>

Why? After all, when you are dead, othatAs all Folks"

True, that's all till the soon to be resurrection. (see above)

Sincerely James.
How to survive a disaster.
Bible discussion on it at
JW.org 11/22/2024

Sincerely James.

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On 11/25/2024 2:40 PM, zebra2@windstream.net wrote:

On Fri, 22 Nov 2024 16:53:24 -0800, teslaStinker <truecatholicstaff@truecarpentry.org> wrote:

On 11/22/2024 2:49 PM, zebra2@windstream.net wrote:

On Mon, 18 Nov 2024 13:11:54 -0800, None<none@none.non> wrote:

On Nov 18, 2024, zebra2@windstream.net wrote
(Message-ID:<e5kmjj9o3jkh6cvjvrodasi49oqef5uv18@4ax.com>):

On Mon, 18 Nov 2024 09:26:38 +1100, In the Name of Jesus
<michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> wrote:

You know the truth.

Morning, hope all is well.

Sorry to rain on your parade. but most of Christendom does not know
ALL the Bible truths. I am not going to go into details here, but
rather just list some 'false truths':

--Jesus is Jehovah. That would mean Jesus raised himself from the
dead. (great trick if you can pull it off)

False statement created by inability to read the scripture. His Father raised
him from the dead.

If Jesus IS God, then he raised himself. No getting around it.

no. acts 2, states, he had not a corrupted body, unlike yours.
when you go to hell, you will corrupt. Count on it.. excommunicated idiot. >>
And if that is true, of which it is, Jesus was a ghost yes.

30 Whereas therefore he was a prophet, and knew that God hath sworn to
him with an oath, that of the fruit of his loins one should sit upon his
throne. 31 Foreseeing this, he spoke of the resurrection of Christ. For
neither was he left in hell, neither did his flesh see corruption.
32 This Jesus hath God raised again, whereof all we are witnesses.

33 Being exalted therefore by the right hand of God, and having received
of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath poured forth this
which you see and hear. 34 For David ascended not into heaven; but he
himself said: The Lord said to my Lord, sit thou on my right hand,
35 Until I make thy enemies thy footstool.

he was actually a ghost of the Holy Ghost, uncorupted body yes. Dead,

no. Yes God raised Him. Yes, a ghost. A Perfect Body. So you see,
your full of shit telling people, there is no biblical ghost, when
there is. He is proof. Himself. Perfect Body.

I am talking about those 'ghosts' people see in haunted houses, etc.
And they believe ghosts are dead humans, coming back to haunt them.
That Biblically can't happen. Why? Dead humans are not conscious
anywhere.

Concerning the dead:

--"the dead know nothing" (Ec 9:5; NIV))

--"In that very day his thoughts perish." (Ps 146:4; NASB)

--"Our friend Lazarus has fallen asleep...Lazarus has died." (NAB; Mt 11:11-14)

--"The dead do not praise the Lord, Nor do any who go down into
silence;" (Ps 115:17; NASB)

stop reading your goofed up fake changed Bibles by the devil, and you
just may agree and say, one day,,,,its true

The NWT Bible is the most accurate of all. You have been listening to
false Christians. And I can prove it.

God's name is found in the Bible about 7000 times in the form of the
Hebrew Tetragrammaton YHWH. Most all Bible translators have removed
it, and ADDED into their Bible the word "Lord" etc, instead. The word
"Lord" is a title, not a name.

So it's likely that your Bible has those about 7000 errors. Not a good
start is it. THEY EVEN MAKE GOD A LIAR!! Notice:

-- New King James
Exodus 6:3 "I appeared to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, as God
Almighty, but by My name, Lord, I was not known to them.

Lord is a title, not a name. Now for more accuracy:

(Exodus 6:3) And I used to appear to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob as God Almighty, but with regard to my name Jehovah I did not make myself
known to them. (NWT)

-- King James
Exodus 6:3 And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob,
by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to
them.

-- American Standard
Exodus 6:3 and I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob,
as God Almighty; but by my name Jehovah I was not known to them.

-- Young's Bible
Exodus 6:3 and I appear unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, as
God Almighty; as to My name Jehovah, I have not been known to them;

-- Darby's Bible
Exodus 6:3 And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob,
as the Almighty God; but by my name Jehovah I was not made known to
them.

-- Webster's Bible
Exodus 6:3 And I appeared to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, by [the
name of] God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them.

Sincerely James.
Woman and God.
Bible discussion on it at
JW.org 11/25/2024

--People have an immortal soul. But the Bible says a soul [Heb
nephesh] CAN DIE. (Eze 18:4 KJV) Also, biblically, fish are also
souls:

Immortal is immortal, whether it be with the Heavenly Father or residing in
the lake of Fire and Brimstone. Death, in this case, means separation from >>>> GOD.

Then why did Job desire death? Did he really want to be separated from
God? (Job 14:13) Actually Job wanted to go to hell (sheol) to get
relief.

-- Darby's Bible
Genesis 1:20 And God said, Let the waters swarm with swarms of living >>>>> souls, [Heb nephesh] and let fowl fly above the earth in the expanse >>>>> of the heavens.

And souls have physical blood". (Genesis 9:5 KJV) lives= (nephesh;
souls.)

Nephesh = the whole of the being

Yes, when God created Adam, and Adam became alive, Adam became a
living "soul", he wasn't given one. (Gen 2:7)

--God is a Trinity. Yet Deut says God is "ONE". (Deut 6:4)
Maybe God is one, is not meant in the Trinity sense. The medieval
scholastics tried but failed to make sense out of it, eventually
deciding that only faith could resolve the Trinity for any given
believer.

This has, ultimately, ended up being the position of most of
Christendom: That the Trinity is true even though itAs
incomprehensible; faith is the only way to accept it. 3=1=3.

No, it has not, and the RCC is not the whole of the Church, it is only a >>>> part, and very erroneous, albeit not as bad as the JW.

Good. You have set the JW's aside as not being a part of the churches.
As the only true religion, we will be persecuted just as Jesus said.

Jesus brought true Bible teachings to the Jews back then. By doing so,
he stepped on religious leader's toes. Eventually they killed him. We
shouldn't expect any less.

Then we should do the same for Zeus or Ra. Just accept them on faith. >>>>> Right?

That is what the RCC currently teach. Which the pope has reiterated three >>>> time this year.

You have to hand it to Satan. He has the churches in his hands, and
has them believing in an illogical doctrine, the Trinity. And worse
yet, has them believing God is a sadist that cooks His misbehaving
children in a literal fire forever. Yes he is a master at deception.

But he is angry at JW's, because they don't fall for his lies. Unless
God stops him, he would wipe them out in an instant. Yes, there is
only "one faith" (Eph 4:5), not many conflicting ones. The Christ does
not exist divided.

"That it was constructed not out of a desire to understand God, but
from a vendetta against a heresy (e.g. Arianism), is perhaps what
makes it as nonsensical as it seems. It was not designed as a rational >>>>> theology; it was designed only to refute other theologies."
(http://www.earlychristianhistory.info/trinity.html"

You can believe what you want and assign your beliefs to others, yet it does
not justify your thinking.

The Holy Bible justifies our thinking. And the JW's are the only ones
fulfilling Mt 24:14 globally, and the prophecy of Isa 2:2-4. (see
American Standard Bible)

--The dead still live on after death. (then they are not really dead, >>>>> are they?) Yet the Bible disagrees.

When the tent of the Human, their body, a tabernacle, dies it is dead. >>>> Returns to dust from which it came. Yet their spirit and soul dwell on. As >>>> mentioned above as well as in scripture. How else did Samuel speak to King >>>> Saul after he died? Or do you not believe all of the scripture?

Did you carefully look at the context? Concerning Saul's experience
with the witch of En-dor (1 Sa 28:7-19), the context shows Saul at
that time was not obeying God. For example, 1 Sa 28:5,6 shows that God
was not supporting Saul at that time:

"5. When Saul saw the Philistine army, he was afraid; terror filled
his heart.
6. He inquired of the LORD, but the LORD did not answer him by
dreams or Urim or prophets." (NIV)

And Saul even admits this in verse 15, "God has turned away from me."

And since the Bible clearly says at Ec 9:5, 10 and Ps 146:3,4 the dead
are not conscience of anything, then there is no way that the witch
could talk to any dead person. (Samuel was in the grave at that time.
The Bible calls it "sheol"; the place where all the dead went)

Saul next decides to break another one of God's laws, and seek out a
person who claims to talk to dead people. This was in clear violation
of De 18:10-12,

"10. Let no one be found among you who sacrifices his son or daughter
in the fire, who practices divination or sorcery, interprets omens,
engages in witchcraft,
11. or casts spells, or who is a medium or spiritist or who consults >>> the dead.
12. Anyone who does these things is detestable to the LORD, and
because of these detestable practices the LORD your God will drive out
those nations before you."

There is a good reason why God didn't want people trying to make
communications with dead people. That is because since dead people
cannot talk to anyone, then if someone did make contact with an
alleged dead person, that 'person' had to be Satan or a demon
impersonating that dead person. 2 Co 11:14 ,

"And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light."
(NIV)

(see also 2 Th 2:9)

And talking to lying, deceitful demons is not going to make things
better for a person in the long run, no more than if you take advice
from a con man.

And just a couple more thoughts here. Even if somehow Saul was really
talking to Samuel, why would Samuel be a participant with a witch to
communicate with Saul, something the righteous Samuel knew to be
against God? (De 18:10-12) And why would Samuel talk to Saul now,
seeing that when he was alive he REFUSED to see the unrighteous Saul?
(1 Sa 15:35)

No, this was not the righteous Samuel of the Bible. Rather Saul was
communicating with something, THROUGH a spirit medium witch.

So in summary, Saul was wicked at the time, and he sought out a wicked
person to get his information. And since the Bible shows the dead are
not conscience and cannot speak to anyone, Saul could not have been
talking to Samuel himself, but rather it had to be an impersonator of
Samuel, a wicked demon spirit. And that is why God warns His servants
to not inquire of the dead, so as not to be mislead by them.

--"the dead know nothing" (Ec 9:5; NIV))

--"In that very day his thoughts perish." (Ps 146:4; NASB)

--"Our friend Lazarus has fallen asleep...Lazarus has died." (NAB;
John 11:11-14)

--"The dead do not praise the Lord, Nor do any who go down into
silence;" (Ps 115:17; NASB)

-- King James
Psalms 13:3 Consider and hear me, O Lord my God: lighten mine eyes,
lest I sleep the sleep of death;

-- William's NewTestament
Acts 7:60 Then he fell on his knees and cried out, "Lord, do not
charge this sin on the book against them!"<w> On saying this he fell >>>>> asleep in death.

- New King James
Acts 13:36 "For David, after he had served his own generation by the >>>>> will of God, fell asleep, was buried with his fathers, and saw
corruption;

Obviously these were speaking of the Body, but not the Person. IOW their >>>> tabernacle, or do you disagree with the scripture.

But he whom God hath raised from the dead, saw no corruption.

This is the Divine Power of God, it is so a ghost, and is Holy

It is because of Scripture, that I believe the way I do.

and your scriptures is a fake, a piece of shit. KJV

Look carefully at Jesus' words about his dead friend, Lazarus:

-- New King James
John 11:11 These things He said, and after that He said to them, "Our
friend Lazarus sleeps, but I go that I may wake him up.''

Jesus was not talking about a dead body, but about THE MAN Lazarus.
The man Lazarus was sleeping (dead), Jesus was going to wake HIM (not
just a body) up.

I have more to show you, but these should make the point. The Bible
equates death with sleeping. You can't get around that. Do you believe >>>>> what God says, or what men say?

Do you?

I am not talking about what the Bible says just to kill time.

You know He is the truth.

Not by the churches. They make Jesus out to be a liar. For just one
example. Jesus said the dead are sleeping. John 11:11-14) Churches say >>>>> the dead continue to live, and either go to Heaven or to hellfire. So >>>>> that means either Jesus lied, or the Churches know more than Jesus.
You pick one.

When you die, per your cult. You are dead, gone forever, non-existent. If you
truly believe that, then why mess with any cult or religion. After all, what
is the point? You live, you die, you wasted your time as a human, and were >>>> forced to live in a religious state, that benefitted no one, not even
yourself.

Yes, Satan wants you to believe such malarkey. Yes, all the dead now
are as Jesus said "sleeping". But don't forget Acts 24:15:

-- New King James
Acts 24:15 "I have hope in God, which they themselves also accept,
that there will be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and
the unjust.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBVJVNWkYzE

Everyone needs to spiritually wake up and have a strong cup of Bible. >>>>

Why? After all, when you are dead, othatAs all Folks"

True, that's all till the soon to be resurrection. (see above)

Sincerely James.
How to survive a disaster.
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Sincerely James.

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On 11/22/2024 2:49 PM, zebra2@windstream.net wrote:

The NWT Bible is the most accurate of all. You have been listening to
false Christians. And I can prove it.

God's name is found in the Bible about 7000 times in the form of the
Hebrew Tetragrammaton YHWH. Most all Bible translators have removed
it, and ADDED into their Bible the word "Lord" etc, instead. The word "Lord" is a title, not a name.

So it's likely that your Bible has those about 7000 errors. Not a good start is it. THEY EVEN MAKE GOD A LIAR!! Notice:

Sincerely James.

According to this post of James. The whole of the NT is inaccurate in their NWT version as it does not use the words for God that were used in the Hebrew Bible and their Covenant with God. And as well their version of the NT does not use the proper name of Jesus, etc/ If you get my drift.

Who knows better how to translate the OT into Greek than the 70+ priests of Israel who translated the Hebrew OT, for their was no NT at that time, and
see how the Priests 300 years before the life of Jesus translated the names
of God.

Does James have the guts to explain all that to his cult leaders?

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On Wed, 20 Aug 2025 10:56:07 -0700, teslaStinker <truecatholicstaff@truecarpentry.org> wrote:

always reading fkd up bibles make you tell lies, and God said you
would, and here you are doing it JW

And a good afternoon to you RC!

On 11/25/2024 2:40 PM, zebra2@windstream.net wrote:

On Fri, 22 Nov 2024 16:53:24 -0800, teslaStinker
<truecatholicstaff@truecarpentry.org> wrote:

On 11/22/2024 2:49 PM, zebra2@windstream.net wrote:

On Mon, 18 Nov 2024 13:11:54 -0800, None<none@none.non> wrote:

On Nov 18, 2024, zebra2@windstream.net wrote
(Message-ID:<e5kmjj9o3jkh6cvjvrodasi49oqef5uv18@4ax.com>):

On Mon, 18 Nov 2024 09:26:38 +1100, In the Name of Jesus
<michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> wrote:

You know the truth.

Morning, hope all is well.

Sorry to rain on your parade. but most of Christendom does not know >>>>>> ALL the Bible truths. I am not going to go into details here, but
rather just list some 'false truths':

--Jesus is Jehovah. That would mean Jesus raised himself from the
dead. (great trick if you can pull it off)

False statement created by inability to read the scripture. His Father raised
him from the dead.

If Jesus IS God, then he raised himself. No getting around it.

no. acts 2, states, he had not a corrupted body, unlike yours.
when you go to hell, you will corrupt. Count on it.. excommunicated idiot. >>>
And if that is true, of which it is, Jesus was a ghost yes.

30 Whereas therefore he was a prophet, and knew that God hath sworn to
him with an oath, that of the fruit of his loins one should sit upon his >>> throne. 31 Foreseeing this, he spoke of the resurrection of Christ. For
neither was he left in hell, neither did his flesh see corruption.
32 This Jesus hath God raised again, whereof all we are witnesses.

33 Being exalted therefore by the right hand of God, and having received >>> of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath poured forth this
which you see and hear. 34 For David ascended not into heaven; but he
himself said: The Lord said to my Lord, sit thou on my right hand,
35 Until I make thy enemies thy footstool.

he was actually a ghost of the Holy Ghost, uncorupted body yes. Dead,

no. Yes God raised Him. Yes, a ghost. A Perfect Body. So you see, >>> your full of shit telling people, there is no biblical ghost, when
there is. He is proof. Himself. Perfect Body.

I am talking about those 'ghosts' people see in haunted houses, etc.
And they believe ghosts are dead humans, coming back to haunt them.
That Biblically can't happen. Why? Dead humans are not conscious
anywhere.

Concerning the dead:

--"the dead know nothing" (Ec 9:5; NIV))

--"In that very day his thoughts perish." (Ps 146:4; NASB)

--"Our friend Lazarus has fallen asleep...Lazarus has died." (NAB; Mt
11:11-14)

--"The dead do not praise the Lord, Nor do any who go down into
silence;" (Ps 115:17; NASB)

stop reading your goofed up fake changed Bibles by the devil, and you
just may agree and say, one day,,,,its true

The NWT Bible is the most accurate of all. You have been listening to
false Christians. And I can prove it.

God's name is found in the Bible about 7000 times in the form of the
Hebrew Tetragrammaton YHWH. Most all Bible translators have removed
it, and ADDED into their Bible the word "Lord" etc, instead. The word
"Lord" is a title, not a name.

So it's likely that your Bible has those about 7000 errors. Not a good
start is it. THEY EVEN MAKE GOD A LIAR!! Notice:

-- New King James
Exodus 6:3 "I appeared to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, as God
Almighty, but by My name, Lord, I was not known to them.

Lord is a title, not a name. Now for more accuracy:

(Exodus 6:3) And I used to appear to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob as God
Almighty, but with regard to my name Jehovah I did not make myself
known to them. (NWT)

-- King James
Exodus 6:3 And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob,
by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to
them.

-- American Standard
Exodus 6:3 and I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob,
as God Almighty; but by my name Jehovah I was not known to them.

-- Young's Bible
Exodus 6:3 and I appear unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, as
God Almighty; as to My name Jehovah, I have not been known to them;

-- Darby's Bible
Exodus 6:3 And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob,
as the Almighty God; but by my name Jehovah I was not made known to
them.

-- Webster's Bible
Exodus 6:3 And I appeared to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, by [the
name of] God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them.

Sincerely James.
Woman and God.
Bible discussion on it at
JW.org 11/25/2024

--People have an immortal soul. But the Bible says a soul [Heb
nephesh] CAN DIE. (Eze 18:4 KJV) Also, biblically, fish are also
souls:

Immortal is immortal, whether it be with the Heavenly Father or residing in
the lake of Fire and Brimstone. Death, in this case, means separation from
GOD.

Then why did Job desire death? Did he really want to be separated from >>>> God? (Job 14:13) Actually Job wanted to go to hell (sheol) to get
relief.

-- Darby's Bible
Genesis 1:20 And God said, Let the waters swarm with swarms of living >>>>>> souls, [Heb nephesh] and let fowl fly above the earth in the expanse >>>>>> of the heavens.

And souls have physical blood". (Genesis 9:5 KJV) lives= (nephesh; >>>>>> souls.)

Nephesh = the whole of the being

Yes, when God created Adam, and Adam became alive, Adam became a
living "soul", he wasn't given one. (Gen 2:7)

--God is a Trinity. Yet Deut says God is "ONE". (Deut 6:4)
Maybe God is one, is not meant in the Trinity sense. The medieval
scholastics tried but failed to make sense out of it, eventually
deciding that only faith could resolve the Trinity for any given
believer.

This has, ultimately, ended up being the position of most of
Christendom: That the Trinity is true even though itAs
incomprehensible; faith is the only way to accept it. 3=1=3.

No, it has not, and the RCC is not the whole of the Church, it is only a >>>>> part, and very erroneous, albeit not as bad as the JW.

Good. You have set the JW's aside as not being a part of the churches. >>>> As the only true religion, we will be persecuted just as Jesus said.

Jesus brought true Bible teachings to the Jews back then. By doing so, >>>> he stepped on religious leader's toes. Eventually they killed him. We
shouldn't expect any less.

Then we should do the same for Zeus or Ra. Just accept them on faith. >>>>>> Right?

That is what the RCC currently teach. Which the pope has reiterated three >>>>> time this year.

You have to hand it to Satan. He has the churches in his hands, and
has them believing in an illogical doctrine, the Trinity. And worse
yet, has them believing God is a sadist that cooks His misbehaving
children in a literal fire forever. Yes he is a master at deception.

But he is angry at JW's, because they don't fall for his lies. Unless
God stops him, he would wipe them out in an instant. Yes, there is
only "one faith" (Eph 4:5), not many conflicting ones. The Christ does >>>> not exist divided.

"That it was constructed not out of a desire to understand God, but >>>>>> from a vendetta against a heresy (e.g. Arianism), is perhaps what
makes it as nonsensical as it seems. It was not designed as a rational >>>>>> theology; it was designed only to refute other theologies."
(http://www.earlychristianhistory.info/trinity.html"

You can believe what you want and assign your beliefs to others, yet it does
not justify your thinking.

The Holy Bible justifies our thinking. And the JW's are the only ones
fulfilling Mt 24:14 globally, and the prophecy of Isa 2:2-4. (see
American Standard Bible)

--The dead still live on after death. (then they are not really dead, >>>>>> are they?) Yet the Bible disagrees.

When the tent of the Human, their body, a tabernacle, dies it is dead. >>>>> Returns to dust from which it came. Yet their spirit and soul dwell on. As
mentioned above as well as in scripture. How else did Samuel speak to King
Saul after he died? Or do you not believe all of the scripture?

Did you carefully look at the context? Concerning Saul's experience
with the witch of En-dor (1 Sa 28:7-19), the context shows Saul at
that time was not obeying God. For example, 1 Sa 28:5,6 shows that God >>>> was not supporting Saul at that time:

"5. When Saul saw the Philistine army, he was afraid; terror filled
his heart.
6. He inquired of the LORD, but the LORD did not answer him by
dreams or Urim or prophets." (NIV)

And Saul even admits this in verse 15, "God has turned away from me."

And since the Bible clearly says at Ec 9:5, 10 and Ps 146:3,4 the dead >>>> are not conscience of anything, then there is no way that the witch
could talk to any dead person. (Samuel was in the grave at that time.
The Bible calls it "sheol"; the place where all the dead went)

Saul next decides to break another one of God's laws, and seek out a
person who claims to talk to dead people. This was in clear violation
of De 18:10-12,

"10. Let no one be found among you who sacrifices his son or daughter >>>> in the fire, who practices divination or sorcery, interprets omens,
engages in witchcraft,
11. or casts spells, or who is a medium or spiritist or who consults >>>> the dead.
12. Anyone who does these things is detestable to the LORD, and
because of these detestable practices the LORD your God will drive out >>>> those nations before you."

There is a good reason why God didzebrabible@proton.mezebrabible@proton.mewant people trying to make
communications with dead people. That is because since dead people
cannot talk to anyone, then if someone did make contact with an
alleged dead person, that 'person' had to be Satan or a demon
impersonating that dead person. 2 Co 11:14 ,

"And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light."
(NIV)

(see also 2 Th 2:9)

And talking to lying, deceitful demons is not going to make things
better for a person in the long run, no more than if you take advice
from a con man.

And just a couple more thoughts here. Even if somehow Saul was really
talking to Samuel, why would Samuel be a participant with a witch to
communicate with Saul, something the righteous Samuel knew to be
against God? (De 18:10-12) And why would Samuel talk to Saul now,
seeing that when he was alive he REFUSED to see the unrighteous Saul?
(1 Sa 15:35)

No, this was not the righteous Samuel of the Bible. Rather Saul was
communicating with something, THROUGH a spirit medium witch.

So in summary, Saul was wicked at the time, and he sought out a wicked >>>> person to get his information. And since the Bible shows the dead are
not conscience and cannot speak to anyone, Saul could not have been
talking to Samuel himself, but rather it had to be an impersonator of
Samuel, a wicked demon spirit. And that is why God warns His servants
to not inquire of the dead, so as not to be mislead by them.

--"the dead know nothing" (Ec 9:5; NIV))

--"In that very day his thoughts perish." (Ps 146:4; NASB)

--"Our friend Lazarus has fallen asleep...Lazarus has died." (NAB; >>>>>> John 11:11-14)

--"The dead do not praise the Lord, Nor do any who go down into
silence;" (Ps 115:17; NASB)

-- King James
Psalms 13:3 Consider and hear me, O Lord my God: lighten mine eyes, >>>>>> lest I sleep the sleep of death;

-- William's NewTestament
Acts 7:60 Then he fell on his knees and cried out, "Lord, do not
charge this sin on the book against them!"<w> On saying this he fell >>>>>> asleep in death.

- New King James
Acts 13:36 "For David, after he had served his own generation by the >>>>>> will of God, fell asleep, was buried with his fathers, and saw
corruption;

it was speaking of the ghost, not the Body, an not his own generation,
as your corrupt lying Bible says, cause true Bible says it was not
after he served, but during him serving, and he did not fall asleep,
but was already asleep, and that makes you a dam fkn liar about
ghosts. A generation is a section of time, not specific people

It looks like David fell asleep but forgot to take an alarm clock. So
he is still sleeping. Or was he in Heaven?

36 For David, when he had served in his generation, according to the
will of God, slept: and was laid unto his fathers, and saw corruption.

Obviously these were speaking of the Body, but not the Person. IOW their >>>>> tabernacle, or do you disagree with the scripture.

It is because of Scripture, that I believe the way I do.

Look carefully at Jesus' words about his dead friend, Lazarus:

-- New King James
John 11:11 These things He said, and after that He said to them, "Our >>>> friend Lazarus sleeps, but I go that I may wake him up.''

Jesus was not talking about a dead body, but about THE MAN Lazarus.
The man Lazarus was sleeping (dead), Jesus was going to wake HIM (not
just a body) up.

I have more to show you, but these should make the point. The Bible >>>>>> equates death with sleeping. You can't get around that. Do you believe >>>>>> what God says, or what men say?

Do you?

I am not talking about what the Bible says just to kill time.

You know He is the truth.

Not by the churches. They make Jesus out to be a liar. For just one >>>>>> example. Jesus said the dead are sleeping. John 11:11-14) Churches say >>>>>> the dead continue to live, and either go to Heaven or to hellfire. So >>>>>> that means either Jesus lied, or the Churches know more than Jesus. >>>>>> You pick one.

When you die, per your cult. You are dead, gone forever, non-existent. If you
truly believe that, then why mess with any cult or religion. After all, what
is the point? You live, you die, you wasted your time as a human, and were
forced to live in a religious state, that benefitted no one, not even >>>>> yourself.

Yes, Satan wants you to believe such malarkey. Yes, all the dead now
are as Jesus said "sleeping". But don't forget Acts 24:15:

-- New King James
Acts 24:15 "I have hope in God, which they themselves also accept,
that there will be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and
the unjust.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBVJVNWkYzE

Everyone needs to spiritually wake up and have a strong cup of Bible. >>>>>

Why? After all, when you are dead, othatAs all Folks"

True, that's all till the soon to be resurrection. (see above)

Sincerely James.
How to survive a disaster.
Bible discussion on it at
JW.org 11/22/2024

Sincerely James.

Here is one for you. Can you show me where Limbo is in the Holy Bible?

Sincerely James
"Will Diplomacy Bring Peace?"
See jw.org 8/21/2025)
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On Wed, 20 Aug 2025 14:27:14 -0700, None <none@none.non> wrote:

On 11/22/2024 2:49 PM, zebra2@windstream.net wrote:

The NWT Bible is the most accurate of all. You have been listening to
false Christians. And I can prove it.

God's name is found in the Bible about 7000 times in the form of the
Hebrew Tetragrammaton YHWH. Most all Bible translators have removed
it, and ADDED into their Bible the word "Lord" etc, instead. The word
"Lord" is a title, not a name.

So it's likely that your Bible has those about 7000 errors. Not a good
start is it. THEY EVEN MAKE GOD A LIAR!! Notice:

Sincerely James.

According to this post of James. The whole of the NT is inaccurate in their >NWT version as it does not use the words for God that were used in the Hebrew >Bible and their Covenant with God.

In the OT, the NWT uses the Tetragrammaton in each place it is found.
They use the Latin-English translation, "Jehovah". Your Bible likely
uses "lord" in those occurrences, thus having thousands of errors.

And as well their version of the NT does
not use the proper name of Jesus, etc/ If you get my drift.

Who knows better how to translate the OT into Greek than the 70+ priests of >Israel who translated the Hebrew OT, for their was no NT at that time, and >see how the Priests 300 years before the life of Jesus translated the names >of God.

Does James have the guts to explain all that to his cult leaders?

This terrible cult does not need to explain anything. They have
researched all these things, and have the best translation out there.

I have looked at many translations and compared them to the NWT, and
for accuracy can say they are not even in the ballpark. You are free
to do the same yourself.

As for the Septuagint, apparently the late BCE and early first century
DID NOT remove the divine name. The Septuagint you look at is about
the fourth century copy. They have found fragments of the Septuagint
dating from about 50 BCE to 50 CE. AND IT CONTAINS THE DIVINE NAME IN
IT.

And in 1971, they found fragments (fouad 66 papyri) of the Septuagint
THAT CONTAINED THE DIVINE NAME. So the JW Bible has it right, and most
all other translations have it wrong. Go figure.

I told you the JW's really research this stuff, so if you desire
accuracy, go to the JW's. If you don't, stay where you are.

Sincerely James
"Will Diplomacy Bring Peace?"
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On Aug 21, 2025, zebrabible@proton.me wrote (Message-ID:<bsoeakhtfq422mkj79lrihaf1nptgvmolp@4ax.com>):

On Wed, 20 Aug 2025 14:27:14 -0700, None<none@none.non> wrote:

On 11/22/2024 2:49 PM, zebra2@windstream.net wrote:

The NWT Bible is the most accurate of all. You have been listening to false Christians. And I can prove it.

God's name is found in the Bible about 7000 times in the form of the Hebrew Tetragrammaton YHWH. Most all Bible translators have removed
it, and ADDED into their Bible the word "Lord" etc, instead. The word "Lord" is a title, not a name.

So it's likely that your Bible has those about 7000 errors. Not a good start is it. THEY EVEN MAKE GOD A LIAR!! Notice:

Sincerely James.

According to this post of James. The whole of the NT is inaccurate in their NWT version as it does not use the words for God that were used in the Hebrew

Bible and their Covenant with God.

In the OT, the NWT uses the Tetragrammaton in each place it is found.
They use the Latin-English translation, "Jehovah". Your Bible likely
uses "lord" in those occurrences, thus having thousands of errors.

rCLThe whole of the NT is inaccuraterCY was the wording I used, what does the OT in the NWT have to do with that?

Jehovah is a Latin, RCC word mistranslation that you desire to hang onto as
it fits into your RC heritage. Which I have mentioned to you for decades.

As to rCLMy BiblerCY? In the beginning of the JWrCOs they used the various mainstays of all the churches. They in fact published them, buying the rCLplatesrCY with which to publish them under their cult Nym.

Do you know the numbers of the different bible translations they printed as their rCLofficialrCY Bibles? Plus how many failed versions within the last several decades until they Came up with the current NWT satanically deceitfully inspired rCylook alikerCY to the unknowledgeable, version that
now has been shown to be corrupted by the evil one? Satan did the same thing in the Garden of Eden when he spoke to Eve via the serpent.

And as well their version of the NT does
not use the proper name of Jesus, etc/ If you get my drift.

Who knows better how to translate the OT into Greek than the 70+ priests of Israel who translated the Hebrew OT, for their was no NT at that time, and see how the Priests 300 years before the life of Jesus translated the names of God.

Does James have the guts to explain all that to his cult leaders?

This terrible cult does not need to explain anything. They have
researched all these things, and have the best translation out there.

1Pe 3:15 But sanctify" Isa. 8:12, 13 the Lord God in your hearts, and always be ready to give an answer to everyone asking you a reason concerning the
hope in you, with meekness and fear,

Can you see here what your arrogance is in conflict with? Your research comprises the gleaned knowledge of WIKI, for your. cough, thorough research.

I have looked at many translations and compared them to the NWT, and
for accuracy can say they are not even in the ballpark. You are free
to do the same yourself.

I agree with you in the main. While there are some bible translations that
are near as bad as the JWrCOs, by and large the do not compare in the slightest with the NWT as it is so full of deceit.

As for the Septuagint, apparently the late BCE and early first century
DID NOT remove the divine name. The Septuagint you look at is about
the fourth century copy. They have found fragments of the Septuagint
dating from about 50 BCE to 50 CE. AND IT CONTAINS THE DIVINE NAME IN
IT.

You are arrogantly incorrect.

And in 1971, they found fragments (fouad 66 papyri) of the Septuagint
THAT CONTAINED THE DIVINE NAME. So the JW Bible has it right, and most
all other translations have it wrong. Go figure.

Where in the NT does the NWT mention YHWH, Yehovah, YahWeh, etc?
Where in the Septuagint are they to be found?

I told you the JW's really research this stuff, so if you desire
accuracy, go to the JW's. If you don't, stay where you are.

The JWrCOs use WIKI as their source. WIcKId
Who among the JW have heard the voice of the Heavenly Father?
Who among them know who is the god they serve?
Who among them can tell the difference between fools gold, and the real gold? Who among them knows the voice of God or Satan, or can tell the difference?

Can you?

Sincerely James

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On Thu, 21 Aug 2025 16:16:26 -0700, None <none@none.non> wrote:

On Aug 21, 2025, zebrabible@proton.me wrote >(Message-ID:<bsoeakhtfq422mkj79lrihaf1nptgvmolp@4ax.com>):

On Wed, 20 Aug 2025 14:27:14 -0700, None<none@none.non> wrote:

On 11/22/2024 2:49 PM, zebra2@windstream.net wrote:

The NWT Bible is the most accurate of all. You have been listening to >> > > > false Christians. And I can prove it.

God's name is found in the Bible about 7000 times in the form of the >> > > > Hebrew Tetragrammaton YHWH. Most all Bible translators have removed
it, and ADDED into their Bible the word "Lord" etc, instead. The word >> > > > "Lord" is a title, not a name.

So it's likely that your Bible has those about 7000 errors. Not a good >> > > > start is it. THEY EVEN MAKE GOD A LIAR!! Notice:

Sincerely James.

According to this post of James. The whole of the NT is inaccurate in their
NWT version as it does not use the words for God that were used in the
Hebrew

Bible and their Covenant with God.

In the OT, the NWT uses the Tetragrammaton in each place it is found.
They use the Latin-English translation, "Jehovah". Your Bible likely
uses "lord" in those occurrences, thus having thousands of errors.

oThe whole of the NT is inaccurateo was the wording I used, what does the
OT in the NWT have to do with that?

Jehovah is a Latin, RCC word mistranslation that you desire to hang onto as >it fits into your RC heritage. Which I have mentioned to you for decades.

As to oMy Bibleo? In the beginning of the JWAs they used the various >mainstays of all the churches. They in fact published them, buying the >oplateso with which to publish them under their cult Nym.

Do you know the numbers of the different bible translations they printed as >their oofficialo Bibles? Plus how many failed versions within the last >several decades until they Came up with the current NWT satanically >deceitfully inspired alook alikeo to the unknowledgeable, version that
now has been shown to be corrupted by the evil one? Satan did the same thing >in the Garden of Eden when he spoke to Eve via the serpent.

Words, words, and words. Your statements do not mean anything without
evidence. You can't find a more accurate translation than the NWT. It
beats the pants off the KJV, and most all the modern versions.

And the prime evidence, is maintaining the Tetragrammaton throughout
the OT. Most chop it out and ADD the title "Lord" instead. Do you deny
or agree with this? Please answer.

And as well their version of the NT does
not use the proper name of Jesus, etc/ If you get my drift.

Who knows better how to translate the OT into Greek than the 70+ priests of
Israel who translated the Hebrew OT, for their was no NT at that time, and >> > see how the Priests 300 years before the life of Jesus translated the names
of God.

Does James have the guts to explain all that to his cult leaders?

This terrible cult does not need to explain anything. They have
researched all these things, and have the best translation out there.

1Pe 3:15 But sanctify" Isa. 8:12, 13 the Lord God in your hearts, and always >be ready to give an answer to everyone asking you a reason concerning the >hope in you, with meekness and fear,

Can you see here what your arrogance is in conflict with?

James' "arrogance" is Bible Scriptures.

Your research
comprises the gleaned knowledge of WIKI, for your. cough, thorough research.

It's not always "thorough". We can always do better.

I have looked at many translations and compared them to the NWT, and
for accuracy can say they are not even in the ballpark. You are free
to do the same yourself.

I agree with you in the main. While there are some bible translations that >are near as bad as the JWAs, by and large the do not compare in the >slightest with the NWT as it is so full of deceit.

Here we go with the words, words, words again. If it is so "full" of
deceit, give me some examples. That shouldn't be hard with it being
"full" of deceit.

Most modern Bibles have totally removed the Greatest Name in the
Universe thousands of times, by chopping out the Tetragrammaton. I
don't hear you complaining about that. Do you agree with them? Please
answer again.

As for the Septuagint, apparently the late BCE and early first century
DID NOT remove the divine name. The Septuagint you look at is about
the fourth century copy. They have found fragments of the Septuagint
dating from about 50 BCE to 50 CE. AND IT CONTAINS THE DIVINE NAME IN
IT.

You are arrogantly incorrect.

Prove it please! I certainly do not want to dispense false
information. So you say I am incorrect, then correct me.

And in 1971, they found fragments (fouad 66 papyri) of the Septuagint
THAT CONTAINED THE DIVINE NAME. So the JW Bible has it right, and most
all other translations have it wrong. Go figure.

Where in the NT does the NWT mention YHWH, Yehovah, YahWeh, etc?

We have been discussing the Tetragrammaton in the OT, which you can
deny, but haven't proven yet. My purpose here is not to try to win
some stupid debate, but to inform you of the truth, and do it with
evidence. That's all.

Where in the Septuagint are they to be found?

In the 4th century Septuagint, no where. In older fragments of it, in
various places. For example again,

In Palestine at a place near the Dead Sea, many decades ago, a leather
scroll was found that contained the prophets Hosea through Malachi. It
was written in Greek. This was one of the earliest pieces of the
Septuagint. It is dated 50 B.C.E. to 50 C.E. And the Tetragrammaton
was intact and not replaced by "Lord" or "God".

Thus the 4th century Septuagint that we have today, WAS TAMPERED WITH.
The proof is in the pudding, so to speak.

I told you the JW's really research this stuff, so if you desire
accuracy, go to the JW's. If you don't, stay where you are.

The JWAs use WIKI as their source.

Please prove that.

WIcKId

Who among the JW have heard the voice of the Heavenly Father?

None, and neither has any other sane person.

Who among them know who is the god they serve?

JW's know Him the most. They know His love. That He would never
TORTURE a living soul. That principle is stated at Jer 7:31,

"-- King James
Jeremiah 7:31 And they have built the high places of Tophet, which is
in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to burn their sons and their
daughters in the fire; which I commanded them not, neither came it
into my heart.

Who among them can tell the difference between fools gold, and the real gold?

The JW's. They can detect false religious teachings from true
religious teachings.

Who among them knows the voice of God or Satan, or can tell the difference?

No one knows the voice of God. Or the voice of Satan? When people
experience poltergeists they may hear the voice of Satan if he is
there.

Can you?

See above.

Sincerely James
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Sincerely James

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On Aug 22, 2025, zebrabible@proton.me wrote (Message-ID:<ca0haktm3vbns3u8t0s0317snadggk1gf9@4ax.com>):

On Thu, 21 Aug 2025 16:16:26 -0700, None<none@none.non> wrote:

On Aug 21, 2025, zebrabible@proton.me wrote (Message-ID:<bsoeakhtfq422mkj79lrihaf1nptgvmolp@4ax.com>):

On Wed, 20 Aug 2025 14:27:14 -0700, None<none@none.non> wrote:

On 11/22/2024 2:49 PM, zebra2@windstream.net wrote:

The NWT Bible is the most accurate of all. You have been listening to
false Christians. And I can prove it.

God's name is found in the Bible about 7000 times in the form of the
Hebrew Tetragrammaton YHWH. Most all Bible translators have removed it, and ADDED into their Bible the word "Lord" etc, instead. The word
"Lord" is a title, not a name.

So it's likely that your Bible has those about 7000 errors. Not a good
start is it. THEY EVEN MAKE GOD A LIAR!! Notice:

Sincerely James.

According to this post of James. The whole of the NT is inaccurate in their
NWT version as it does not use the words for God that were used in the Hebrew

Bible and their Covenant with God.

In the OT, the NWT uses the Tetragrammaton in each place it is found. They use the Latin-English translation, "Jehovah". Your Bible likely
uses "lord" in those occurrences, thus having thousands of errors.

rCLThe whole of the NT is inaccuraterCY was the wording I used, what does the
OT in the NWT have to do with that?

Jehovah is a Latin, RCC word mistranslation that you desire to hang onto as it fits into your RC heritage. Which I have mentioned to you for decades.

As to rCLMy BiblerCY? In the beginning of the JWrCOs they used the various mainstays of all the churches. They in fact published them, buying the rCLplatesrCY with which to publish them under their cult Nym.

Do you know the numbers of the different bible translations they printed as their rCLofficialrCY Bibles? Plus how many failed versions within the last several decades until they Came up with the current NWT satanically deceitfully inspired rCylook alikerCY to the unknowledgeable, version that now has been shown to be corrupted by the evil one? Satan did the same thing
in the Garden of Eden when he spoke to Eve via the serpent.

Words, words, and words. Your statements do not mean anything without evidence. You can't find a more accurate translation than the NWT. It
beats the pants off the KJV, and most all the modern versions.

What is today the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania was incorporated in Allegheny, Pennsylvania, in 1884 as ZionrCOs Watch Tower
Tract Society. Ever since its legal incorporation JehovahrCOs witnesses of modern times have been using it as their publishing agency. In harmony with its Charter the Society has distributed Bibles in many languages. Since 1926 it has even undertaken to print Bibles on its own presses. The Emphatic Diaglott, of which it owns the copyright and plates, was first run off its presses in 1926. Since then 166,244 copies have been printed. In due time the Society bought the plates for printing the Authorized or King James Version
of the Holy Bible, which is the first English Bible that was translated, not from the Latin Vulgate, but from the original Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek. The Society began printing it in 1942, and has since produced 1,396,701 copies.
3. (a) What other complete Bible edition did it next publish, and to what extent? (b)How has this Bible society spread the Bible in many languages?

3 Later the Society paid for the privilege to use the plates of the American Standard Version Bible, which is a revision of the King James Version Bible
of 1611. Copies of this American Revision the Watch Tower Society began producing in 1944, and has since printed 888,837 copies in two sizes. Over 2 million copies of all three of these Biblical editions from its own presses the Society has distributed world-wide through its eighty-five Branch organizations. By means of these Branches the Society has also spread the Bible in many languages, as it has been able to obtain these foreign-language Bibles from other Bible societies.

https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1960724

There are several splits of the JWrCOs.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/vIfnj8ZPQqo/maxresdefault.jpg

Unfulfilled Prophecies of the Jehovah's Witnesses Year 1874 1878 1881 1914 1915 1918 1920 1975 Prophecy Coming of Christ Resurrection End of favor to
the Gentiles Armageddon Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob Resurrected Christendom and its Churches Destroyed Disappearance of Republics Establishment of God's Kingdom on Earth 1925 Abraham in Jerusalem to resurrect loved ones 1925 End
of the World

Words words words, that is all the JWrCOs have.

http://pictures.amazingdiscoveries.org/JehovahsWitnesses/5627-Jehovahs- Witness-unfulfilled-prophecis.jpg

And the prime evidence, is maintaining the Tetragrammaton throughout
the OT. Most chop it out and ADD the title "Lord" instead. Do you deny
or agree with this? Please answer.

I have told you many times in the previous three weeks, as well as showed you what the Jewish priests translated the OT into Greek and the verbiage they used. Never once have you read my posts as I wrote them.

And as well their version of the NT does
not use the proper name of Jesus, etc/ If you get my drift.

Who knows better how to translate the OT into Greek than the 70+ priests
of
Israel who translated the Hebrew OT, for their was no NT at that time, and
see how the Priests 300 years before the life of Jesus translated the names
of God.

Does James have the guts to explain all that to his cult leaders?

This terrible cult does not need to explain anything. They have researched all these things, and have the best translation out there.

1Pe 3:15 But sanctify" Isa. 8:12, 13 the Lord God in your hearts, and always
be ready to give an answer to everyone asking you a reason concerning the hope in you, with meekness and fear,

Can you see here what your arrogance is in conflict with?

James' "arrogance" is Bible Scriptures.

You wrote none of them. Plus the God that did was never arrogant about them.

Your research
comprises the gleaned knowledge of WIKI, for your. cough, thorough research.

It's not always "thorough". We can always do better.

Can you really? I have asked you many questions about the things you said,
and you have always been lacking in regards to the facts that support your claims. The latest faux pas was in regards to war, when it will end, etc. and I had to ask you 3 or 4 times before you could even generate an answer that was obviously wrong, per the scripture.

I have looked at many translations and compared them to the NWT, and
for accuracy can say they are not even in the ballpark. You are free
to do the same yourself.

I agree with you in the main. While there are some bible translations that are near as bad as the JWrCOs, by and large the do not compare in the slightest with the NWT as it is so full of deceit.

Here we go with the words, words, words again. If it is so "full" of
deceit, give me some examples. That shouldn't be hard with it being
"full" of deceit.

Your claim that Jesus is not God.
Your claim that Jesus is rCLa godrCY.
Your claim that the NWT is the most correct version of the Bible
Your claim about war and war ending.
Your claim about two paths to heaven yet you only quote one path.
Your claims about hell, the lake of Fire and who is death and hell that is thrown into it. I showed you the scripture on that many times, each time it was totally ignored, and it is a Bible truth that you chose to disregard.
You claim to be followers of Jesus and his witnesses, yet your org nym in rCLJehovah WitnessrCO
You do not know what the kingdom of Heaven is and where or when it is.

You want more?

Most modern Bibles have totally removed the Greatest Name in the
Universe thousands of times, by chopping out the Tetragrammaton. I
don't hear you complaining about that. Do you agree with them? Please
answer again.

You never read my posts so as to now and understand my thoughts and understandings. Yet you ask me to tell you once more. Can. You guarantee that you will listen and understand this time any better than you promised the
last ten times?

As for the Septuagint, apparently the late BCE and early first century DID NOT remove the divine name. The Septuagint you look at is about
the fourth century copy. They have found fragments of the Septuagint dating from about 50 BCE to 50 CE. AND IT CONTAINS THE DIVINE NAME IN
IT.

You are arrogantly incorrect.

Prove it please! I certainly do not want to dispense false
information. So you say I am incorrect, then correct me.

I did a word search, what you claimed never showed up.
You made the claim so you need to prove it and prove me incorrect.

And in 1971, they found fragments (fouad 66 papyri) of the Septuagint THAT CONTAINED THE DIVINE NAME. So the JW Bible has it right, and most all other translations have it wrong. Go figure.

Where in the NT does the NWT mention YHWH, Yehovah, YahWeh, etc?

We have been discussing the Tetragrammaton in the OT, which you can
deny, but haven't proven yet. My purpose here is not to try to win
some stupid debate, but to inform you of the truth, and do it with
evidence. That's all.

That was only part of YOUR discussion as I showed you at the fore that I was discussing the NWT NT and its errors and you chose to ignore it and bring up the OT as if that was the subject. It wasnrCOt, and because I knew that you would not read what I wrote just above your response, I then quoted it to you agian so as not to burden you to lift your eyes a few lines to verify what I said whether it be true of false.

Where in the Septuagint are they to be found?

In the 4th century Septuagint, no where. In older fragments of it, in
various places. For example again,

Which 4th century, again I see no proof from you.

In Palestine at a place near the Dead Sea, many decades ago, a leather
scroll was found that contained the prophets Hosea through Malachi. It
was written in Greek. This was one of the earliest pieces of the
Septuagint. It is dated 50 B.C.E. to 50 C.E. And the Tetragrammaton
was intact and not replaced by "Lord" or "God".

Where us your proof

Thus the 4th century Septuagint that we have today, WAS TAMPERED WITH.
The proof is in the pudding, so to speak.

What 4th century Septuagint It was written in the 3rd tot the 2nd century BC.

I told you the JW's really research this stuff, so if you desire accuracy, go to the JW's. If you don't, stay where you are.

The JWrCOs use WIKI as their source.

Please prove that.

I traced your source.

WIcKId

Who among the JW have heard the voice of the Heavenly Father?

None, and neither has any other sane person.

So all the disciples, apostles and followers of Jesus from the time of the departure of Christ unto this present day who have heard his voice, and Jesus said rCL My sheep now my voicerCY were and are insane?

Who among them know who is the god they serve?

JW's know Him the most. They know His love. That He would never
TORTURE a living soul. That principle is stated at Jer 7:31,

"-- King James
Jeremiah 7:31 And they have built the high places of Tophet, which is
in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to burn their sons and their
daughters in the fire; which I commanded them not, neither came it
into my heart.

That had not one thing to do with final judgment. So why is it ok to throw satan and His angels into the lake of Fire, to toss the false prophets of the Antichrist there and those that took the mark of Him into the lake of fire to be eternally tormented, and not you?

Who among them can tell the difference between fools gold, and the real gold?

The JW's. They can detect false religious teachings from true
religious teachings.

You mean from the angel of light? Why do the JWs run past my house?

Who among them knows the voice of God or Satan, or can tell the difference?

No one knows the voice of God. Or the voice of Satan? When people
experience poltergeists they may hear the voice of Satan if he is
there.

I do. As do many others who were born of God. How can God direct your paths
if you have not the ears to hear?

Can you?

See above.

Why not just admit it straight out? Too embarrassed?

Why do you not believe Romans 8:9,10, and 11?

Sincerely James
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