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"But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither
suffer ye them that are entering to go in." (Mat 23:13)

These are those who never operate in the realm of the Kingdom of God and
teach others that the Gospel of the Kingdom is limited for today|ore4raos time. These are the people who specify that there is no more raising of the dead back to life, in this world, no more miracles, no more healings, no more gifts of the spirit, etc.

Yet those very same people would claim to be spiritual leaders called by God like pastors, teachers, deacons and elders, evangelists, and so on who were gifted or called to fill those positions.

The promises of God for the nation of Israel, those that exercised faith in God, included healings from the very beginning of the Church of Israel, when they were called out of Egypt, until the days of the Messiah, when he healed others, cast out demons, performed restorative miracles, raised the dead,
etc. All of which is a full part of the Gospel of the Kingdom of Heaven.

They never stop to consider that the Lord is the same yesterday, today, and forever. They never came to the knowledge of God, nor understand the
mysteries of the Kingdom of Heaven. They seek to short sheet the body of Christ, and bring glory to themselves, not to the Alpha and the Omega, Jesus the Christ.

They might find and be surprised to learn that they too can be forgiven, if they repent and seek God. Not so-called knowledge and wisdom of men with theological suppositions. But those that seek Gods Face.

Repent, do not be part of the 10 virgins that are left behind, The door shut to them, because they had no |ore4+ooil|ore4

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The LordrCOs words in Matthew 23:13 condemn men who by hypocrisy barred
others from the kingdom. The text does not speak of those who uphold
what Scripture itself teaches about the purpose and cessation of sign
gifts. The charge is misplaced.

1 Corinthians 13:8rCo10 explicitly states:

rCLLove never ends. As for prophecies, they will pass away; as for
tongues, they will cease; as for knowledge, it will pass away.
For we know in part and we prophesy in part, but when the
perfect comes, the partial will pass away.rCY (1 Corinthians
13:8rCo10, ESV)

The verb rCLwill ceaserCY is in the middle voice, meaning tongues ceased of themselves, apart from the coming of rCLthe perfect.rCY This proves they had
a built-in limit.

Hebrews 2:3rCo4 confirms the purpose of miracles was to validate the new message of salvation:

rCLIt was declared at first by the Lord, and it was attested to us
by those who heard, while God also bore witness by signs and
wonders and various miracles and by gifts of the Holy Spirit
distributed according to his will.rCY (Hebrews 2:3rCo4, ESV)

The verb rCLwas confirmedrCY is aorist passive, pointing to a once-for-all action completed in the past. The confirmation is finished.

Tongues had a clear role as a sign to unbelieving Israel:

rCLIn the Law it is written, rCyBy people of strange tongues and by
the lips of foreigners will I speak to this people, and even
then they will not listen to me, says the Lord.rCO (1 Corinthians
14:21rCo22, ESV)

Thus tongues are a sign not for believers but for unbelievers...Israel
heard and rejected. The sign had served its purpose.

By the end of PaulrCOs ministry, miraculous gifts had already faded. Paul
left Trophimus sick (2 Timothy 4:20), told Timothy to take wine for his frequent ailments (1 Timothy 5:23), and received no healing himself for
his thorn in the flesh, but was told, rCLMy grace is sufficient for you,
for my power is made perfect in weaknessrCY (2 Corinthians 12:9, ESV). If
sign gifts were meant to continue, these examples make no sense.

John, the last apostle, gave no instruction to test men by signs and
wonders. Instead he wrote,

rCLBy this it is evident who are the children of God, and who are
the children of the devil: whoever does not practice
righteousness is not of God, nor is the one who does not love
his brotherrCY (1 John 3:10, ESV).

The test is doctrine, righteousness, and loverConot miracles.

The Lord Himself said,

rCLAn evil and adulterous generation seeks for a signrCY (Matthew
12:39, ESV).

To continually demand signs is to join the same spirit He condemned.
GodrCOs Word is sufficient: rCLNow Jesus did many other signs in the
presence of the disciples, which are not written in this book; but these
are written so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of
God, and that by believing you may have life in his name.rCY (John
20:30rCo31, ESV)

Faith rests in the written Word, not in a never-ending quest for outward wonders. The signs already served their divine purpose.
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raised Him from the dead?

That Christ died for our sins shows we're sinners who deserve the death penalty. That God raised Him from the dead shows Christ's death
satisfied God's righteous demands against our sin (Romans 3:25; 1 John
2:1-2). This means God can now remain just, while forgiving you of your
sins, and saving you from eternal damnation.

On the basis of Christ's death and resurrection for our sins, call on
the name of the Lord to save you: "For 'everyone who calls on the name
of the Lord will be saved'" (Romans 10:13, ESV).

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Pharisees were the fudamentalists (Evanglicals),
Sadduccees were the traditionalists (Catholics)
Samaritans were the syncretists (freemasons)
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On Aug 21, 2025, vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com wrote
(Message-ID: <1088bo7$oq$1@reader1.panix.com>):

Pharisees were the fudamentalists (Evanglicals),
Sadduccees were the traditionalists (Catholics)
Samaritans were the syncretists (freemasons)

Pharisees were traditionalists following the doctrines of men.

Mrk 7:5 Then the Pharisees and scribes asked him, Why walk not thy disciples according to the tradition of the elders, but eat bread with unwashen hands?

Mrk 7:6 He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me withtheirlips, but their heart is far from me.

Mrk 7:7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching fordoctrines the commandments of men.

Mrk 7:8 For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men,asthe washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.

Mrk 7:9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.

There are fundamentalists of all religions. No matter their names nor their gods.

Not one person is saved via a religion.


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In <6fbjakt0au5v14obk4ij7u4aoq4cmj5l3c@4ax.com> by Steve
Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> on Sat, 23 Aug 2025 08:06:20 we perused:
*+-On Thu, 21 Aug 2025 23:56:55 -0000 (UTC), *+-vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com wrote:

Pharisees were the fudamentalists (Evanglicals),

*+-Parisees were the rigorists and anti-syncretists, and therefore *+-traditionalists.

They were strict scripturalists like the Evangelicals
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On Aug 26, 2025, vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com wrote
(Message-ID: <108lkgd$hfg$3@reader1.panix.com>):

In<6fbjakt0au5v14obk4ij7u4aoq4cmj5l3c@4ax.com> by Steve
Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> on Sat, 23 Aug 2025 08:06:20 we perused:
*+-On Thu, 21 Aug 2025 23:56:55 -0000 (UTC), *+-vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com wrote:

Pharisees were the fudamentalists (Evanglicals),

*+-Parisees were the rigorists and anti-syncretists, and therefore *+-traditionalists.

They were strict scripturalists like the Evangelicals

Jhn 14:6-14

6 Jesus said to him, I am the Way and the Truth and the Life; no one comes to the Father except by (through) Me.

7 If you had known Me [had learned to recognize Me], you would also have
known My Father. From now on, you know Him and have seen Him.

8 Philip said to Him, Lord, show us the Father [cause us to see the Father--that is all we ask]; then we shall be satisfied.

9 Jesus replied, Have I been with all of you for so long a time, and do you not recognize and know Me yet, Philip? Anyone who has seen Me has seen the Father. How can you say then, Show us the Father?

10 Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in Me? What I am telling you I do not say on My own authorityand of My own accord; but the Father Who lives continually in Me does the (His) works (His own miracles, deeds of power).

11 Believe Me that I am in the Father and the Father in Me; or else believe
Me for the sake of the [very] works themselves. [If you cannot trust Me, at least let these works that I do in My Father's name convince you.]

12 I assure you, most solemnly I tell you, if anyone steadfastly believes in Me, he will himself be able to do the things that I do; and he will do even greater things than these, because I go to the Father.

13 And I will do [I Myself will grant] whatever you ask in My Name [as presenting all that I AM], so that the Father may be glorified and extolled
in (through) the Son. [Exo 3:14]

14 [Yes] I will grant [I Myself will do for you] whatever you shall ask in My Name [as presenting all that I AM].

This distinguishes the believer from the pharisaical


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