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Bible soul: Immortal? NO. Can die? YES
Most all churches teach that we all have an immortal soul. And that it
leaves the body at death, and goes on to heavenly bliss or damnation.
Let's examine those teachings in light of the Bible.
First, is the soul immortal? The Bible says:
- King James
Ezekiel 18:4 Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father,
so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall
die.
"it shall die". Sounds pretty mortal to me. The Bible talks about a
soul, but never an IMMORTAL soul. If we say we follow the Bible, then
we have to accept those Bible facts.
So how did the word "immortal" get stuck to the word "soul"? According
to an encyclopedia, it happened in the distant past by folks whose
Names you should recognize; Plato and Aristotle.
Funk and Wagnall's Encyclopedia says,
"Early Judaism considered the human personality as a whole, without
making a sharp distinction between body and soul....The Christian
doctrine of the soul has been strongly influenced by the philosophies
of Plato and Aristotle."
Do you know the first time the word soul is used in the Bible? It is
with fish. Observe:
Ge 1:20 says,
"And God went on to say: "Let the waters swarm forth a swarm of living
souls [nephesh] and let flying creatures fly over the earth upon the
face of the expanse of the heavens."" (my brackets)
Rev 16:3 says,
"And the second one poured out his bowl into the sea. And it became
blood as of a dead man, and every living soul [psykhe] died, [yes,]
the things in the sea. (1st brackets mine)
The word "soul" also has other meanings depending upon the context.
For example the word can mean life, or Future life.
So in summary:
-the soul is NOT immortal, but can die.
-the first use of the word "soul" is with fish.
-since fish are souls, so are dogs, cats, birds, and people.
-depending upon context, the word can have other meanings.
Sincerely James
"Jesus will end war"
On Aug 17, 2025, zebrabible@proton.me wrote >(Message-ID:<ed94akhs1sqvrqu8744hnkql9vj7h7r9g2@4ax.com>):
Bible soul: Immortal? NO. Can die? YES
Most all churches teach that we all have an immortal soul. And that it
leaves the body at death, and goes on to heavenly bliss or damnation.
Let's examine those teachings in light of the Bible.
First, is the soul immortal? The Bible says:
- King James
Ezekiel 18:4 Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father,
so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall
die.
"it shall die". Sounds pretty mortal to me. The Bible talks about a
soul, but never an IMMORTAL soul. If we say we follow the Bible, then
we have to accept those Bible facts.
So how did the word "immortal" get stuck to the word "soul"? According
to an encyclopedia, it happened in the distant past by folks whose
Names you should recognize; Plato and Aristotle.
Funk and Wagnall's Encyclopedia says,
"Early Judaism considered the human personality as a whole, without
making a sharp distinction between body and soul....The Christian
doctrine of the soul has been strongly influenced by the philosophies
of Plato and Aristotle."
Do you know the first time the word soul is used in the Bible? It is
with fish. Observe:
Ge 1:20 says,
"And God went on to say: "Let the waters swarm forth a swarm of living
souls [nephesh] and let flying creatures fly over the earth upon the
face of the expanse of the heavens."" (my brackets)
Rev 16:3 says,
"And the second one poured out his bowl into the sea. And it became
blood as of a dead man, and every living soul [psykhe] died, [yes,]
the things in the sea. (1st brackets mine)
The word "soul" also has other meanings depending upon the context.
For example the word can mean life, or Future life.
So in summary:
-the soul is NOT immortal, but can die.
-the first use of the word "soul" is with fish.
-since fish are souls, so are dogs, cats, birds, and people.
-depending upon context, the word can have other meanings.
This last sentence tells us all you have no clue what it is all about. If the >word has other meanings and you cannot differentiate what they are,
then you
are fully out to lunch on the topic and all you ever wrote about this topic >can be dismissed out of hand as ignorance.
Why spread your nonsense about?
Sincerely James
"Jesus will end war"
You do not know what you are speaking about here. What War and when?
On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 16:36:56 -0700, None<none@none.non> wrote:
On Aug 17, 2025, zebrabible@proton.me wrote (Message-ID:<ed94akhs1sqvrqu8744hnkql9vj7h7r9g2@4ax.com>):
Afternoony,
Bible soul: Immortal? NO. Can die? YES
Most all churches teach that we all have an immortal soul. And that it leaves the body at death, and goes on to heavenly bliss or damnation. Let's examine those teachings in light of the Bible.
First, is the soul immortal? The Bible says:
- King James
Ezekiel 18:4 Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father,
so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall
die.
"it shall die". Sounds pretty mortal to me. The Bible talks about a
soul, but never an IMMORTAL soul. If we say we follow the Bible, then
we have to accept those Bible facts.
So how did the word "immortal" get stuck to the word "soul"? According
to an encyclopedia, it happened in the distant past by folks whose
Names you should recognize; Plato and Aristotle.
Funk and Wagnall's Encyclopedia says,
"Early Judaism considered the human personality as a whole, without making a sharp distinction between body and soul....The Christian doctrine of the soul has been strongly influenced by the philosophies
of Plato and Aristotle."
Do you know the first time the word soul is used in the Bible? It is
with fish. Observe:
Ge 1:20 says,
"And God went on to say: "Let the waters swarm forth a swarm of living souls [nephesh] and let flying creatures fly over the earth upon the
face of the expanse of the heavens."" (my brackets)
Rev 16:3 says,
"And the second one poured out his bowl into the sea. And it became
blood as of a dead man, and every living soul [psykhe] died, [yes,]
the things in the sea. (1st brackets mine)
The word "soul" also has other meanings depending upon the context.
For example the word can mean life, or Future life.
So in summary:
-the soul is NOT immortal, but can die.
-the first use of the word "soul" is with fish.
-since fish are souls, so are dogs, cats, birds, and people.
-depending upon context, the word can have other meanings.
This last sentence tells us all you have no clue what it is all about. If the
word has other meanings and you cannot differentiate what they are,
That's a wrong conclusion. I usually do know the meaning of the word
soul in its sentence.
then you
are fully out to lunch on the topic and all you ever wrote about this topic can be dismissed out of hand as ignorance.
Unlike the churches, it's all Bible based. You are free to take it or
leave it, as the saying goes.
Why spread your nonsense about?
Hopefully to point people to the narrow road to life.
Sincerely James
"Jesus will end war"
You do not know what you are speaking about here. What War and when?
-What war= the general category of war, which means all wars.
-When= when God says it's time.
Sincerely James--
On Aug 18, 2025, zebrabible@proton.me wrote >(Message-ID:<m767akdcn87f5ls7i1p6i6t4bqrr725u14@4ax.com>):
On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 16:36:56 -0700, None<none@none.non> wrote:
On Aug 17, 2025, zebrabible@proton.me wrote
(Message-ID:<ed94akhs1sqvrqu8744hnkql9vj7h7r9g2@4ax.com>):
Afternoony,
Bible soul: Immortal? NO. Can die? YES
Most all churches teach that we all have an immortal soul. And that it >> > > leaves the body at death, and goes on to heavenly bliss or damnation.
Let's examine those teachings in light of the Bible.
First, is the soul immortal? The Bible says:
- King James
Ezekiel 18:4 Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father,
so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall
die.
"it shall die". Sounds pretty mortal to me. The Bible talks about a
soul, but never an IMMORTAL soul. If we say we follow the Bible, then
we have to accept those Bible facts.
So how did the word "immortal" get stuck to the word "soul"? According >> > > to an encyclopedia, it happened in the distant past by folks whose
Names you should recognize; Plato and Aristotle.
Funk and Wagnall's Encyclopedia says,
"Early Judaism considered the human personality as a whole, without
making a sharp distinction between body and soul....The Christian
doctrine of the soul has been strongly influenced by the philosophies
of Plato and Aristotle."
Do you know the first time the word soul is used in the Bible? It is
with fish. Observe:
Ge 1:20 says,
"And God went on to say: "Let the waters swarm forth a swarm of living >> > > souls [nephesh] and let flying creatures fly over the earth upon the
face of the expanse of the heavens."" (my brackets)
Rev 16:3 says,
"And the second one poured out his bowl into the sea. And it became
blood as of a dead man, and every living soul [psykhe] died, [yes,]
the things in the sea. (1st brackets mine)
The word "soul" also has other meanings depending upon the context.
For example the word can mean life, or Future life.
So in summary:
-the soul is NOT immortal, but can die.
-the first use of the word "soul" is with fish.
-since fish are souls, so are dogs, cats, birds, and people.
-depending upon context, the word can have other meanings.
This last sentence tells us all you have no clue what it is all about. If >> > the
word has other meanings and you cannot differentiate what they are,
That's a wrong conclusion. I usually do know the meaning of the word
soul in its sentence.
Usually? That only confirms what I stated above.
then you
are fully out to lunch on the topic and all you ever wrote about this topic
can be dismissed out of hand as ignorance.
Unlike the churches, it's all Bible based. You are free to take it or
leave it, as the saying goes.
oBible basedo? According to what and whom?
When an unqualified person reads a recipe, and does not understand what >various words mean, or methodologies for preparation, but they go ahead and >interpret the recipe according to the limited knowledge they have it can make >all the difference in the world as to tastes and consistency of the product, >even to the point of appearing like a burnt sacrifice rather than an elegant >dinner. Such it is when a religious person who has not the spirit of God in >them, leading them into all truths, are.
You may mean well, but the end of it all, is crispy critters, including those >who buy into your personal AtruthsA. How can you, for instance, know what >are the mysteries of the Kingdom of Heaven?
Why spread your nonsense about?
Hopefully to point people to the narrow road to life.
Yet you claim there are two paths.
one occasion omitting any scriptural references.
Sincerely James
"Jesus will end war"
You do not know what you are speaking about here. What War and when?
-What war= the general category of war, which means all wars.
-When= when God says it's time.
Scripture? After all, you said you only go by the Bible and not the JW Dogma.
And even then you fail to lay claim to which bible you get your supposed >truths from.
Yeah, what I say may seem a little harsh to you at time, but they stem from >Scripture as well as the heart of God, within my limited understandings. 1 >Cor. 13:12
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Sincerely James
On Mon, 18 Aug 2025 15:47:46 -0700, None<none@none.non> wrote:
On Aug 18, 2025, zebrabible@proton.me wrote (Message-ID:<m767akdcn87f5ls7i1p6i6t4bqrr725u14@4ax.com>):
On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 16:36:56 -0700, None<none@none.non> wrote:
On Aug 17, 2025, zebrabible@proton.me wrote (Message-ID:<ed94akhs1sqvrqu8744hnkql9vj7h7r9g2@4ax.com>):
Afternoony,
Bible soul: Immortal? NO. Can die? YES
Most all churches teach that we all have an immortal soul. And that it
leaves the body at death, and goes on to heavenly bliss or damnation. Let's examine those teachings in light of the Bible.
First, is the soul immortal? The Bible says:
- King James
Ezekiel 18:4 Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.
"it shall die". Sounds pretty mortal to me. The Bible talks about a soul, but never an IMMORTAL soul. If we say we follow the Bible, then we have to accept those Bible facts.
So how did the word "immortal" get stuck to the word "soul"? According
to an encyclopedia, it happened in the distant past by folks whose Names you should recognize; Plato and Aristotle.
Funk and Wagnall's Encyclopedia says,
"Early Judaism considered the human personality as a whole, without making a sharp distinction between body and soul....The Christian doctrine of the soul has been strongly influenced by the philosophies of Plato and Aristotle."
Do you know the first time the word soul is used in the Bible? It is with fish. Observe:
Ge 1:20 says,
"And God went on to say: "Let the waters swarm forth a swarm of living
souls [nephesh] and let flying creatures fly over the earth upon the face of the expanse of the heavens."" (my brackets)
Rev 16:3 says,
"And the second one poured out his bowl into the sea. And it became blood as of a dead man, and every living soul [psykhe] died, [yes,] the things in the sea. (1st brackets mine)
The word "soul" also has other meanings depending upon the context. For example the word can mean life, or Future life.
So in summary:
-the soul is NOT immortal, but can die.
-the first use of the word "soul" is with fish.
-since fish are souls, so are dogs, cats, birds, and people. -depending upon context, the word can have other meanings.
This last sentence tells us all you have no clue what it is all about. If
the
word has other meanings and you cannot differentiate what they are,
That's a wrong conclusion. I usually do know the meaning of the word
soul in its sentence.
Usually? That only confirms what I stated above.
Morningola,
I am not perfect. Sometimes I need to research a passage, in order to
get the real sense of it.
then you
are fully out to lunch on the topic and all you ever wrote about this topic
can be dismissed out of hand as ignorance.
Unlike the churches, it's all Bible based. You are free to take it or leave it, as the saying goes.
rCLBible basedrCY? According to what and whom?
According to the Bible, and by God and Jesus.
When an unqualified person reads a recipe, and does not understand what various words mean, or methodologies for preparation, but they go ahead and interpret the recipe according to the limited knowledge they have it can makeI wasn't born with 100% Bible knowledge. I am always learning. So like
all the difference in the world as to tastes and consistency of the product,
even to the point of appearing like a burnt sacrifice rather than an elegant
dinner. Such it is when a religious person who has not the spirit of God in them, leading them into all truths, are.
I said, if I run across a Scripture I don't understand, I research it.
Yes, I first go to the JW's. Then I go on the internet to see how
others interpret it. By then, I can usually find what I want.
You may mean well, but the end of it all, is crispy critters, including those
who buy into your personal rCOtruthsrCO. How can you, for instance, know what are the mysteries of the Kingdom of Heaven?
Most everything is right in the Bible, if you know where to look. And sometimes one has to resort to Bible principles.
For example, is it alright to take another person's copywrited
computer program without permission?
Since the Bible doesn't talk about computers, we have to see if there
are Bible principals that cover it; like:
- King James
Ephesians 4:28 Let him that stole steal no more: but rather let him
labour, working with his hands the thing which is good, that he may
have to give to him that needeth
Why spread your nonsense about?
Hopefully to point people to the narrow road to life.
Yet you claim there are two paths.
You proudly point that out on more than
one occasion omitting any scriptural references.
Oh really? I thought I covered that: Mt 7:13,14,
13. "Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the
way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it.
14. "Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads
to life, and there are few who find it. (NKJV)
Sincerely James
"Jesus will end war"
You do not know what you are speaking about here. What War and when?
-What war= the general category of war, which means all wars.
-When= when God says it's time.
Scripture? After all, you said you only go by the Bible and not the JW Dogma.
JW Dogma, as you call it, is based on the Bible. Rev 6:1,2,
1. Now I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals; and I heard one
of the four living creatures saying with a voice like thunder, "Come
and see.''
2. And I looked, and behold, a white horse. And he who sat on it had
a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer.
Also, Rev 6:16,17,
16. and said to the mountains and rocks, "Fall on us and hide us from
the face of Him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb!
17. "For the great day of His wrath has come, and who is able to
stand?''
And even then you fail to lay claim to which bible you get your supposed truths from.
I use many translations. MOST of them agree with the NWT such as at 1
John 4:8, God is love.
Yeah, what I say may seem a little harsh to you at time, but they stem from Scripture as well as the heart of God, within my limited understandings. 1 Cor. 13:12
I know you are sincere and fully believe your church doctrines.
Hopefully, someday you will untwist the false doctrines of the
churches, and see the wonderful radiant light of the true Scriptures.
Sincerely James