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BURN, BABY, BURN.

From the depths of hellfire comes:

What kind of person burns another person to death?

Burning at the stake is referred to as a "brutal execution."
Then that makes God more than Brutal. He burns them forever.

Another news account describes burning someone as SHOCKING. Then what
God does is shocking.
(BBC)

The burning off of the skin is excruciating as it burns the nerves.
Basically what happens when a person is burned alive?

-First it starts to burn off your skin.
-While in agony, it makes all your muscles contract.
-the smoke enters the lungs, and you start to slowly suffocate.
-the organs in the body start to shrink.
-The capillaries start to leak
-Then hypovolemia, the body looses fluids such as blood.
-when body temperature goes above 105F, the organs start shutting
down. This causes you intense shock.
-But the end relieves the pain, when all the nerves are fully
destroyed.

Yet the hellfire God won't let that happen. He wants the pain to last
forever.

Folks, this is the God the churches want you to believe in. They call
it justice. Many call it sadism, which it is to the extreme.

The REAL God is a God of infinite love. (1 John 4:8) And he is also
just, as the Bible describes Him:

- New King James
Deuteronomy 32:4 He is the Rock, His work is perfect; for all His
ways are justice, a God of truth and without injustice; righteous and
upright is He.

So why not serve the God of Deut 32:4, and not the sadistic hellfire
god of the churches, which can lead to DEATH.

Sincerely James
"World Hunger
What does the Bible say about food shortages? Will they ever end?
See jw.org 8/5/2025)





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<b7k49kdt39ofpmft07iielshsg5rafl95b@4ax.com>
"Sincerely", "soley from the Bible" and
"Honestly is my middle name"
James <zebrabible@proton.me> wrote:
========================================

Minus the emotional pap for which you didn't have any Scriptural support whatsoever, we have this: You showing us God is just, from Scripture:

- New King James
Deuteronomy 32:4 He is the Rock, His work is perfect; for all His
ways are justice, a God of truth and without injustice; righteous and
upright is He.

So why not serve the God of Deut 32:4...

Exactly. Serve the JUST God instead of your emotional pap, unjust God.

rCLsince indeed God considers it JUST to repay with affliction those who afflict you, and to grant relief to you who are afflicted as well as to
us, when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with his mighty angels
in flaming fire, inflicting vengeance on those who do not know God and
on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus. They will suffer
the punishment of eternal destruction, away from the presence of the
Lord and from the glory of his might,rCY (2 Thessalonians 1:6rCo9, ESV, emphasis added)
--
Have you heard the good news Christ died for our sins (rCa), and God
raised Him from the dead?

That Christ died for our sins shows we're sinners who deserve the death penalty. That God raised Him from the dead shows Christ's death
satisfied God's righteous demands against our sin (Romans 3:25; 1 John
2:1-2). This means God can now remain just, while forgiving you of your
sins, and saving you from eternal damnation.

On the basis of Christ's death and resurrection for our sins, call on
the name of the Lord to save you: "For 'everyone who calls on the name
of the Lord will be saved'" (Romans 10:13, ESV).

https://christrose.news/salvation

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On Aug 5, 2025, zebrabible@proton.me wrote (Message-ID:<b7k49kdt39ofpmft07iielshsg5rafl95b@4ax.com>):

BURN, BABY, BURN.

From the depths of hellfire comes:

What kind of person burns another person to death?

Burning at the stake is referred to as a "brutal execution."
Then that makes God more than Brutal. He burns them forever.

Another news account describes burning someone as SHOCKING. Then what
God does is shocking.
(BBC)

The burning off of the skin is excruciating as it burns the nerves.
Basically what happens when a person is burned alive?

-First it starts to burn off your skin.
-While in agony, it makes all your muscles contract.
-the smoke enters the lungs, and you start to slowly suffocate.
-the organs in the body start to shrink.
-The capillaries start to leak
-Then hypovolemia, the body looses fluids such as blood.
-when body temperature goes above 105F, the organs start shutting
down. This causes you intense shock.
-But the end relieves the pain, when all the nerves are fully
destroyed.

Yet the hellfire God won't let that happen. He wants the pain to last forever.

Folks, this is the God the churches want you to believe in. They call
it justice. Many call it sadism, which it is to the extreme.

The REAL God is a God of infinite love. (1 John 4:8) And he is also
just, as the Bible describes Him:

- New King James
Deuteronomy 32:4 He is the Rock, His work is perfect; for all His
ways are justice, a God of truth and without injustice; righteous and
upright is He.

So why not serve the God of Deut 32:4, and not the sadistic hellfire
god of the churches, which can lead to DEATH.

Sincerely James

You should have listened to the NDE experience of the SATANIC HIGH PRIEST who died in prison and went to hell (not the lake of Fire) and he explained very well how that all happens. As I recall I addressed that post to you or the JWrCOs. For it particularly pointed out all the falsehoods you projected above.

The real God/Jesus judges equitably, if you refuse him that is your issue,
for Satan is the god of this world, it is he that men with their sin natures naturally follow. Even when God speaks to you and you chose to ignore him to follow the desires of your body and mind, you allow satan to continue ruling in your life, doomed to repeat the same sin over and over again.

Jesus, can set you free! And with peace.
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<4nrf8k5mpe8vr83v4ehf1elcijnuigdmdt@4ax.com>
"Sincerely", "soley from the Bible" and
"Honestly is my middle name"
James <zebrabible@proton.me> wrote:
========================================

You should have listened to the NDE experience of the SATANIC HIGH PRIEST who died in prison and went to hell (not the lake of Fire) and he explained very well how that all happens.

No, you should just believe what the Bible says, instead of looking to
claims people make about their dreams and personal experiences:

rCLAnd he said, rCyThen I beg you, father, to send him to my fatherrCOs
houserCo for I have five brothersrCoso that he may warn them, lest
they also come into this place of torment.rCO But Abraham said,
rCyThey have Moses and the Prophets; let them hear them.rCO And he
said, rCyNo, father Abraham, but if someone goes to them from the
dead, they will repent.rCO He said to him, rCyIf they do not hear
Moses and the Prophets, neither will they be convinced if
someone should rise from the dead.rCO rCYrCY (Luke 16:27rCo31, ESV)
rCLBut he answered them, rCLAn evil and adulterous generation seeks
for a sign...rCY (Matthew 12:39rCo40, ESV)

rCLNow Thomas, one of the twelve, called the Twin, was not with
them when Jesus came. So the other disciples told him, rCLWe have
seen the Lord.rCY But he said to them, rCLUnless I see in his hands
the mark of the nails, and place my finger into the mark of the
nails, and place my hand into his side, I will never believe.rCY
Eight days later, his disciples were inside again, and Thomas
was with them. Although the doors were locked, Jesus came and
stood among them and said, rCLPeace be with you.rCY Then he said to
Thomas, rCLPut your finger here, and see my hands; and put out
your hand, and place it in my side. Do not disbelieve, but
believe.rCY Thomas answered him, rCLMy Lord and my God!rCY Jesus said
to him, rCLHave you believed because you have seen me? Blessed are
those who have not seen and yet have believed.rCYrCY (John 20:24rCo29,
ESV)

God expects people to believe now, on the basis of the disciple's
testimony about Christ:

rCLNow Jesus did many other signs in the presence of the disciples,
which are not written in this book; but these are written so
that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God,
and that by believing you may have life in his name.rCY (John
20:30rCo31, ESV)
--
Have you heard the good news Christ died for our sins (rCa), and God
raised Him from the dead?

That Christ died for our sins shows we're sinners who deserve the death penalty. That God raised Him from the dead shows Christ's death
satisfied God's righteous demands against our sin (Romans 3:25; 1 John
2:1-2). This means God can now remain just, while forgiving you of your
sins, and saving you from eternal damnation.

On the basis of Christ's death and resurrection for our sins, call on
the name of the Lord to save you: "For 'everyone who calls on the name
of the Lord will be saved'" (Romans 10:13, ESV).

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Mon, 28 Jul 2025 19:41:34 -0400
<4nrf8k5mpe8vr83v4ehf1elcijnuigdmdt@4ax.com>
"Sincerely", "soley from the Bible" and
"Honestly is my middle name"
James <zebrabible@proton.me> wrote:
========================================

Correction. Should be

========================================
Tue, 05 Aug 2025 16:41:49 -0400
<106ub26$3326f$2@dont-email.me>
"Robert" (a.k.a "None", "Dr. Who",
"Anonymous", "HTH", "ahisrwic") wrote:
========================================

You should have listened to the NDE experience of the SATANIC HIGH
PRIEST who
died in prison and went to hell (not the lake of Fire) and he
explained very
well how that all happens.

No, you should just believe what the Bible says, instead of looking to claims people make about their dreams and personal experiences:

-a-a-a-a rCLAnd he said, rCyThen I beg you, father, to send him to my fatherrCOs
-a-a-a-a-a houserCo for I have five brothersrCoso that he may warn them, lest
-a-a-a-a-a they also come into this place of torment.rCO But Abraham said,
-a-a-a-a-a rCyThey have Moses and the Prophets; let them hear them.rCO And he
-a-a-a-a-a said, rCyNo, father Abraham, but if someone goes to them from the
-a-a-a-a-a dead, they will repent.rCO He said to him, rCyIf they do not hear
-a-a-a-a-a Moses and the Prophets, neither will they be convinced if
-a-a-a-a-a someone should rise from the dead.rCO rCYrCY (Luke 16:27rCo31, ESV)
-a-a-a-a rCLBut he answered them, rCLAn evil and adulterous generation seeks
-a-a-a-a-a for a sign...rCY (Matthew 12:39rCo40, ESV)

-a-a-a-a rCLNow Thomas, one of the twelve, called the Twin, was not with
-a-a-a-a-a them when Jesus came. So the other disciples told him, rCLWe have
-a-a-a-a-a seen the Lord.rCY But he said to them, rCLUnless I see in his hands
-a-a-a-a-a the mark of the nails, and place my finger into the mark of the
-a-a-a-a-a nails, and place my hand into his side, I will never believe.rCY
-a-a-a-a-a Eight days later, his disciples were inside again, and Thomas
-a-a-a-a-a was with them. Although the doors were locked, Jesus came and
-a-a-a-a-a stood among them and said, rCLPeace be with you.rCY Then he said to
-a-a-a-a-a Thomas, rCLPut your finger here, and see my hands; and put out
-a-a-a-a-a your hand, and place it in my side. Do not disbelieve, but
-a-a-a-a-a believe.rCY Thomas answered him, rCLMy Lord and my God!rCY Jesus said
-a-a-a-a-a to him, rCLHave you believed because you have seen me? Blessed are
-a-a-a-a-a those who have not seen and yet have believed.rCYrCY (John 20:24rCo29,
-a-a-a-a-a ESV)

God expects people to believe now, on the basis of the disciple's
testimony about Christ:

-a-a-a-a rCLNow Jesus did many other signs in the presence of the disciples,
-a-a-a-a-a which are not written in this book; but these are written so
-a-a-a-a-a that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God,
-a-a-a-a-a and that by believing you may have life in his name.rCY (John
-a-a-a-a-a 20:30rCo31, ESV)

--
Have you heard the good news Christ died for our sins (rCa), and God
raised Him from the dead?

That Christ died for our sins shows we're sinners who deserve the death penalty. That God raised Him from the dead shows Christ's death
satisfied God's righteous demands against our sin (Romans 3:25; 1 John
2:1-2). This means God can now remain just, while forgiving you of your
sins, and saving you from eternal damnation.

On the basis of Christ's death and resurrection for our sins, call on
the name of the Lord to save you: "For 'everyone who calls on the name
of the Lord will be saved'" (Romans 10:13, ESV).

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On Tue, 5 Aug 2025 17:33:12 -0500, Christ Rose
<usenet@christrose.news> wrote:

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Tue, 05 Aug 2025 16:41:49 -0400
<b7k49kdt39ofpmft07iielshsg5rafl95b@4ax.com>
"Sincerely", "soley from the Bible" and
"Honestly is my middle name"
James <zebrabible@proton.me> wrote:
========================================

Good Morning,

Minus the emotional pap for which you didn't have any Scriptural support

God gave us logic and reasoning. We can use this on Bible Scriptures:

- New American with Apocrypha
Hebrews 11:19 He reasoned that God was able to raise even from the
dead, and he received Isaac back as a symbol.

(Hebrews 11:19) But he reasoned that God was able to raise him up even
from the dead, and he did receive him from there in an illustrative
way. (NWT)

whatsoever, we have this: You showing us God is just, from Scripture:

- New King James
Deuteronomy 32:4 He is the Rock, His work is perfect; for all His
ways are justice, a God of truth and without injustice; righteous and
upright is He.

So why not serve the God of Deut 32:4...

Exactly. Serve the JUST God instead of your emotional pap, unjust God.

-- New King James
Mark 3:17 James the son of Zebedee and John the brother of James, to
whom He gave the name Boanerges, that is, "Sons of Thunder'';

osince indeed God considers it JUST to repay with affliction those who >afflict you, and to grant relief to you who are afflicted as well as to
us,

For Capital Punishment, which is more humane:

1. Drug you into a death sleep?
2. Burn you alive at a stake?

Sincerely, James
"Jesus Will End War"
Go to jw.org
8/13/2025

when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with his mighty angels
in flaming fire, inflicting vengeance on those who do not know God and
on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus. They will suffer
the punishment of eternal destruction, away from the presence of the
Lord and from the glory of his might,o (2 Thessalonians 1:6u9, ESV,
emphasis added)

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On Aug 12, 2025, zebrabible@proton.me wrote (Message-ID:<4c8o9kp7lcbt355bjlqils2qjdidkj3rh0@4ax.com>):

For Capital Punishment, which is more humane:

1. Drug you into a death sleep?
2. Burn you alive at a stake?

Sincerely, James

What a stupid statement!

While those that they perpetuated a crime against suffer, and in some cases suffer with pain as long as they live, that the perpetrator should be gently done away with?

Where is there any punishment in that? Especially when the religious Jehovah Witness cult teach that the dead cease to exist, cease to feel or know anything, and that their reality is totally done away with and there is nothing of them that remains.

Even the JW children have the memories of their parents for as long as they live, memories of a deceased nobody, a totally done away with destruction of their parent.

Where is the logic in that? And just what is Capitol Punishment? A pat on the back and a graceful goodby

Where is any punishment? Especially in light of their recent claims that
death of a human is a total forgiveness of any and all of their sins. Where then is justice?

Under the Old Covenant people who were deserving of death for their sins,
were stoned to death.

Lev 20:2Again, thou shalt say to the children of Israel, Whosoever he be of the children of Israel, or of the strangers that sojourn in Israel, that giveth any of his seed unto Molech; he shall surely be put to death: the people of the land shall stone him with stones.

Lev 20:27A man also or woman that hath a familiar spirit, or that is a
wizard, shall surely be put to death: they shallstone them with stones: their bloodshall be upon them.

Lev 24:16And he that blasphemeth the name of the LORD, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him: as well the stranger, as he that is born in the land, when he blasphemeth the name of the LORD, shall be put to death.

Num 15:35And the LORD said unto Moses, The man shall be surely put to death: all the congregation shall stone him with stones without the camp.

Num 35:17And if he smite him with throwing a stone, wherewith he may die, and he die, heis a murderer: the murderer shall surely be put to death.

This is the way of Jehovah. He whom you say you are witnesses of.

Are you all liars and hypocrites ?!?

Where is there any justice or peace for the victims of Capital Crimes? Per your reasonings and recent claim, Where?

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On Wed, 13 Aug 2025 10:16:51 -0700, None <none@none.non> wrote:

On Aug 12, 2025, zebrabible@proton.me wrote >(Message-ID:<4c8o9kp7lcbt355bjlqils2qjdidkj3rh0@4ax.com>):

For Capital Punishment, which is more humane:

1. Drug you into a death sleep?
2. Burn you alive at a stake?

Sincerely, James

What a stupid statement!

Good Afternoon,

So, of the stupid statement, which would you choose?

While those that they perpetuated a crime against suffer, and in some cases >suffer with pain as long as they live, that the perpetrator should be gently >done away with?

Most states use three. Sodium Thiopental, Pancuronium Bromide, and
Potassium Chloride. That last one stops the heart.

I know, hellfire believers wish they could burn him at the stake.
Sorry about that.

Where is there any punishment in that? Especially when the religious Jehovah >Witness cult teach that the dead cease to exist, cease to feel or know

-- King James
Ecclesiastes 9:10 Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with thy
might; for there is no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in
the grave, whither thou goest.

-- King James
Psalms 146:4 His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in
that very day his thoughts perish.

Please explain that one to me according to the churches teaching about
the soul leaving the body etc.

And Jesus said:

"11. These things said he: and after that he saith unto them, Our
friend Lazarus sleepeth; but I go, that I may awake him out of sleep.
12. Then said his disciples, Lord, if he sleep, he shall do well.
13. Howbeit Jesus spake of his death: but they thought that he had
spoken of taking of rest in sleep." (KJV)

Maybe Jesus caught his 'soul' being asleep, and he wanted to send it
on its way to a glorius Heaven. Then pluck it back to live on this
earth again.

anything, and that their reality is totally done away with and there is >nothing of them that remains.

Even the JW children have the memories of their parents for as long as they >live, memories of a deceased nobody, a totally done away with destruction of >their parent.

JW children are taught from the Bible which talks about a resurrection
of the dead. (Acts 24:15) So they look forword to seeing their loved
ones again.

Churches have to deal with a soul floating around, sometimes coming
back as a ghost to give the living a heart attack. Boo.

Where is the logic in that? And just what is Capitol Punishment? A pat on the >back and a graceful goodby

Where is any punishment?

Death is not just a punishment? It is the ultimate punishment.

Especially in light of their recent claims that
death of a human is a total forgiveness of any and all of their sins. Where >then is justice?

Tell that to the apostle Paul. JW's didn't make that up:

-- New King James
Romans 6:7 For he who has died has been freed from sin.

-- King James
Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is
eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

The churches pick and choose what to obey in the Bible. JW's obey ALL
the Bible, ALL the time.

Under the Old Covenant people who were deserving of death for their sins, >were stoned to death.

Did they wait until they were about dead, then stop. Then start
stoning again. Then stop etc, in order to torture him? Even if they
did that his whole life, he eventually would die.

On the other hand, God allegedly tortures a person ETERNALLY and in
fire, of all things. I can't even conceive how barbaric that is.

Lev 20:2Again, thou shalt say to the children of Israel, Whosoever he be of >the children of Israel, or of the strangers that sojourn in Israel, that >giveth any of his seed unto Molech; he shall surely be put to death: the >people of the land shall stone him with stones.

Lev 20:27A man also or woman that hath a familiar spirit, or that is a >wizard, shall surely be put to death: they shallstone them with stones: their >bloodshall be upon them.

Lev 24:16And he that blasphemeth the name of the LORD, he shall surely be put >to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him: as well the >stranger, as he that is born in the land, when he blasphemeth the name of the >LORD, shall be put to death.

Num 15:35And the LORD said unto Moses, The man shall be surely put to death: >all the congregation shall stone him with stones without the camp.

Num 35:17And if he smite him with throwing a stone, wherewith he may die, and >he die, heis a murderer: the murderer shall surely be put to death.

This is the way of Jehovah. He whom you say you are witnesses of.

We are. (Isa 43:10-12; Mt 24:14) Those laws were all done away with by
Christ's death:

-- New King James
Colossians 2:14 having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that
was against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of
the way, having nailed it to the cross.

Are you all liars and hypocrites ?!?

The Bible doesn't lie and is not hypocritical.

Where is there any justice or peace for the victims of Capital Crimes? Per >your reasonings and recent claim, Where?

In the Bible!

Sincerely James
"Jesus will end war"
See jw.org 8/13/2025)
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On Tue, 05 Aug 2025 18:27:35 -0700, Robert <.robert@mu.way> wrote:

On Aug 5, 2025, zebrabible@proton.me wrote >(Message-ID:<b7k49kdt39ofpmft07iielshsg5rafl95b@4ax.com>):

BURN, BABY, BURN.

From the depths of hellfire comes:

What kind of person burns another person to death?

Burning at the stake is referred to as a "brutal execution."
Then that makes God more than Brutal. He burns them forever.

Another news account describes burning someone as SHOCKING. Then what
God does is shocking.
(BBC)

The burning off of the skin is excruciating as it burns the nerves.
Basically what happens when a person is burned alive?

-First it starts to burn off your skin.
-While in agony, it makes all your muscles contract.
-the smoke enters the lungs, and you start to slowly suffocate.
-the organs in the body start to shrink.
-The capillaries start to leak
-Then hypovolemia, the body looses fluids such as blood.
-when body temperature goes above 105F, the organs start shutting
down. This causes you intense shock.
-But the end relieves the pain, when all the nerves are fully
destroyed.

Yet the hellfire God won't let that happen. He wants the pain to last
forever.

Folks, this is the God the churches want you to believe in. They call
it justice. Many call it sadism, which it is to the extreme.

The REAL God is a God of infinite love. (1 John 4:8) And he is also
just, as the Bible describes Him:

- New King James
Deuteronomy 32:4 He is the Rock, His work is perfect; for all His
ways are justice, a God of truth and without injustice; righteous and
upright is He.

So why not serve the God of Deut 32:4, and not the sadistic hellfire
god of the churches, which can lead to DEATH.

Sincerely James

You should have listened to the NDE experience of the SATANIC HIGH PRIEST who >died in prison and went to hell (not the lake of Fire) and he explained very >well how that all happens. As I recall I addressed that post to you or the >JWAs. For it particularly pointed out all the falsehoods you projected >above.

Then the Bible is false, since I base my reasonings and facts on the
Holy Bible. (2 Tim 3:16; Heb 11:19 (NAB))

The real God/Jesus judges equitably, if you refuse him that is your issue,

You know JW's don't REFUSE Jesus. We accept his ransom sacrifice
110%. He himself said he was the "Son of God", and we totally believe
that. (John 10:36; Luke 1:35)

for Satan is the god of this world, it is he that men with their sin natures >naturally follow. Even when God speaks to you and you chose to ignore him to >follow the desires of your body and mind, you allow satan to continue ruling >in your life, doomed to repeat the same sin over and over again.

If following the Bible is sin, then I am guilty.

Jesus, can set you free! And with peace.

He has done that to the whole world. If only they would accept that.

Why not accept the truths of God's word. (John 4:23,24)He had it
written for us to use.

Sincerely James
"Jesus will end war"
See jw.org 8/14/2025)
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"Sincerely", "soley from the Bible" and
"Honestly is my middle name"
James <zebrabible@proton.me> wrote:
========================================

On Tue, 5 Aug 2025 17:33:12 -0500, Christ Rose
<usenet@christrose.news> wrote:

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Tue, 05 Aug 2025 16:41:49 -0400
<b7k49kdt39ofpmft07iielshsg5rafl95b@4ax.com>
"Sincerely", "soley from the Bible" and
"Honestly is my middle name"
James <zebrabible@proton.me> wrote:
========================================

Good Morning,

Minus the emotional pap for which you didn't have any Scriptural support

God gave us logic and reasoning. We can use this on Bible Scriptures:

- New American with Apocrypha
Hebrews 11:19 He reasoned that God was able to raise even from the
dead, and he received Isaac back as a symbol.

(Hebrews 11:19) But he reasoned that God was able to raise him up even
from the dead, and he did receive him from there in an illustrative
way. (NWT)

False comparison. This actually speaks of reasoning that is based on
God's promise, not reasoning which is a) not based on God's word, and b)
which contradicts what God has plainly said (e.g. 2 Thessalonians
1:8-9). God promised Abraham that through Isaac, his seed would be
multiplied (Genesis 21:12). Abraham believed God's promise (Romans
4:20-21; Hebrews 11:17-19). Isaac had not even been married yet (Genesis 24:67). Therefore, Abraham reasoned that God would have to raise him up
from the dead in order to fulfill His promise in keeping with His
revealed word to Abraham.

whatsoever, we have this: You showing us God is just, from Scripture:

- New King James
Deuteronomy 32:4 He is the Rock, His work is perfect; for all His
ways are justice, a God of truth and without injustice; righteous and
upright is He.

So why not serve the God of Deut 32:4...

Exactly. Serve the JUST God instead of your emotional pap, unjust God.

-- New King James
Mark 3:17 James the son of Zebedee and John the brother of James, to
whom He gave the name Boanerges, that is, "Sons of Thunder'';

rCLsince indeed God considers it JUST to repay with affliction those who
afflict you, and to grant relief to you who are afflicted as well as to
us,

For Capital Punishment, which is more humane:

You ignore what the passage says, and answer before you hear it, to
promote the FALSEHOOD that what it was talking about is simply capital punishment. That's not just referring to capital punishment. The punish
it speaks of is eternal destruction away from the presence of God (see
below)

1. Drug you into a death sleep?
2. Burn you alive at a stake?

idem. You promote falsehood. You are not ignorant of what the verse
says, you just chose to promote deceit, knowing what you were doing:

when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with his mighty angels
in flaming fire, inflicting vengeance on those who do not know God and
on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus. They will suffer
the punishment of eternal destruction, away from the presence of the
Lord and from the glory of his might,rCY (2 Thessalonians 1:6rCo9, ESV,
emphasis added)

--
Have you heard the good news Christ died for our sins (rCa), and God
raised Him from the dead?

That Christ died for our sins shows we're sinners who deserve the death penalty. That God raised Him from the dead shows Christ's death
satisfied God's righteous demands against our sin (Romans 3:25; 1 John
2:1-2). This means God can now remain just, while forgiving you of your
sins, and saving you from eternal damnation.

On the basis of Christ's death and resurrection for our sins, call on
the name of the Lord to save you: "For 'everyone who calls on the name
of the Lord will be saved'" (Romans 10:13, ESV).

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On Aug 14, 2025, zebrabible@proton.me wrote (Message-ID:<9dpr9kh8j3nhl3a4r8i0e4p8rafvvb14k4@4ax.com>):

On Tue, 05 Aug 2025 18:27:35 -0700, Robert<.robert@mu.way> wrote:

On Aug 5, 2025, zebrabible@proton.me wrote (Message-ID:<b7k49kdt39ofpmft07iielshsg5rafl95b@4ax.com>):

BURN, BABY, BURN.

From the depths of hellfire comes:

What kind of person burns another person to death?

Burning at the stake is referred to as a "brutal execution."
Then that makes God more than Brutal. He burns them forever.

Another news account describes burning someone as SHOCKING. Then what
God does is shocking.
(BBC)

The burning off of the skin is excruciating as it burns the nerves. Basically what happens when a person is burned alive?

-First it starts to burn off your skin.
-While in agony, it makes all your muscles contract.
-the smoke enters the lungs, and you start to slowly suffocate.
-the organs in the body start to shrink.
-The capillaries start to leak
-Then hypovolemia, the body looses fluids such as blood.
-when body temperature goes above 105F, the organs start shutting
down. This causes you intense shock.
-But the end relieves the pain, when all the nerves are fully
destroyed.

Yet the hellfire God won't let that happen. He wants the pain to last forever.

Folks, this is the God the churches want you to believe in. They call
it justice. Many call it sadism, which it is to the extreme.

The REAL God is a God of infinite love. (1 John 4:8) And he is also
just, as the Bible describes Him:

- New King James
Deuteronomy 32:4 He is the Rock, His work is perfect; for all His
ways are justice, a God of truth and without injustice; righteous and upright is He.

So why not serve the God of Deut 32:4, and not the sadistic hellfire
god of the churches, which can lead to DEATH.

Perhaps I should have brought this to the attention of any readers when you first posted it.
According to your JW Cult, the rCLGod of Deut 32:4rCY Is Jehovah, not
Yehovah, not Jesus, who you declared in this current reply is whom you
follow. Yet, you say on one hand that he was just a man, and on the other
hand you claim he is just rCLa godrCY. Lacking the attribute of the divine one, or deity. I do not remember at the moment. For decades the JW denied
that Jesus rose from the dead. As per Ecc where the dead die, die and cease
to exist in any form. So Back the the verse you quoted it specifically states that rCLHe is the Rock, etcrCY well..... Who is Jesus?

rCLAnd I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.rCY (Mat 16:18)

Peter. Gr. Petros. i.e. a stone, a piece of rock, loose and movable, *S# G4074*

Upon rCLthisrCY this. Very emphatic, as though pointing to Himself. One of three important passages where "this" stands for the speaker (CB). **Jhn
2:19; *Jhn 6:58.

rock. Gr. petra, immovable rock.

Yes, he is The Rock spoken of in Duet.

rCLAs it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a stumblingstone and rock of offence: and whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.rCY (Rom 9:33) Also in Isaiah 6:14 & 28:16

Sincerely James

You should have listened to the NDE experience of the SATANIC HIGH PRIEST who died in prison and went to hell (not the lake of Fire) and he explained very
well how that all happens. As I recall I addressed that post to you or the JWrCOs. For it particularly pointed out all the falsehoods you projected above.

Then the Bible is false, since I base my reasonings and facts on the
Holy Bible. (2 Tim 3:16; Heb 11:19 (NAB))

Yes, your NWT JW Version is false, of Satan via the minds of men none of
which know the most High God. And your reasonings are that which is given and ordered by the JW Org, from which you must follow or be banned as a heretic.

rCLAnd without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was
manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.rCY (1Ti 3:16)

rCLAll scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.rCY (2Ti 3:16-17)

You have yet to determine just who is the God that gave this inspiration? You can barely give any credence to that verse as you have stated many times lately that all the bales are corrupted by mankind, as well as written by them, not God. It might sound good to hear someone say what you just did, but since you are not rCLa spiritual onerCY that even by your cults teachings you know not God, not have you any right or access to heaven as that is,
according the the JW Org, is only for the 144 thousand young men, 12K from every tribe in Israel. Deceitfully you try your best to con the unlearned
into your cult, never once telling them that they will never see heaven. Not to what they might be resurrected for.

rCLBy faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten son, Of whom it was said, That in Isaac shall thy seed be called: Accounting that God was able to raise him up, even from the dead; from whence also he received him in a figure.rCY (Heb 11:17-19)

For decades the JW denied that this verse was speaking of Christ Jesus.

This verse was a direct reference to Isaiah 28:16 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious corner stone, a sure foundation: he that believeth shall not make haste.

The real God/Jesus judges equitably, if you refuse him that is your issue,

You know JW's don't REFUSE Jesus. We accept his ransom sacrifice
110%. He himself said he was the "Son of God", and we totally believe
that. (John 10:36; Luke 1:35)

rCLSay ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?rCY (Jhn 10:36)

Note well your deceit here, it is written, rCLthe Son of GodrCY not as you emphasized rCLSon of GodrCY Jesus was the only Begotten Son of the Heavenly Father. You teach a flawed, deceitful, and nuanced creed and doctrine of the JW Cult. One of many cults.

rCLAnd the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.rCY
(Luk 1:35)

Note well again, rCLrCYtherCY Son of GodrCY. And that was not spoken by men, but by an angel.

for Satan is the god of this world, it is he that men with their sin natures
naturally follow. Even when God speaks to you and you chose to ignore him to
follow the desires of your body and mind, you allow satan to continue ruling
in your life, doomed to repeat the same sin over and over again.

If following the Bible is sin, then I am guilty.

Following the NWT Bible is sin. The JW who uses other versions of the Bible
is purposefully deceitful. You have stated so yourself as you attempted to downplay all the others to pump up the latest translation NWT. Is this not
the third time your cult has declared their latest translation as the correct one?

Jesus, can set you free! And with peace.

He has done that to the whole world. If only they would accept that.

Him, and not some phony baloney religion. He has not done that rCLto the
whole worldrCY but for all the people of this world. Those who have received Him into their hearts, having been born again and baptized by Jesus, only
they are of the redeemed.

Why not accept the truths of God's word. (John 4:23,24)He had it
written for us to use.

rCLYe worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews. But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.rCY (Jhn 4:22-24)

rCLBut ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit
of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness. But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.rCY (Rom 8:9-11)

It is not for us to use. Satan has used his words many times, even upon Jesus in the temptation after the fast. By your own personal admission to me, you claim to follow another god.

Sincerely James
"Jesus will end war"

What war, and when? No scriptural proof of what you claimed?


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