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On Aug 2, 2025, NightBulb wrote
(Message-ID: <106luhv$1b1l9$2@paganini.bofh.team>):

A brother wrote: "I sense a great blessing for my atheist and

diabolical religious friends! [.....] God clearly created the heavens
and the earth in six literal days."

You are fixing the length of the day based upon your belief. The Hebrew
word translated as DAY is JOWM and it can mean both a literal day and an unspecified time period or an age. The Hebrew JOWM is used much like the English DAY:

1. In our "day and age";
2. Back in the day;
3. The good old days;

None of which mean twenty-four hours.

Even the phrase, "day of the Lord" is referring to a future age, not a literal day of 24 hours.

A brother wrote: "What's fascinating is how God worked in the light,

and not in the dark."

Jesus Christ is the light by which the work is done:

"I must work the works of him that sent me, while it is DAY: the night cometh, when no man can work. As long as I am in the world, I am the
light of the world."

So Jesus is saying his entire time here is one day and he is the light
that lights that day. This is the first day of Genesis that Jesus speaks
of. That day was approximately three years long (his ministry) and then
he ascended to heaven to be with the Father. So here from Jesus Christ
we see one day lasted for approximately three years or 26,298 hours.
That's a lot longer than the literal 24-hour days you two men and other creationists propose.

Then Jesus sent the comforter on the day of Pentecost, creating two
great lights (the saints and powers) to light both day and night, and
lesser lights to mark times and seasons. Jesus did say that his
disciples are the "light of the world." They are the visible lights that proceed from the true light of the Father and Son.

Another brother wrote: "I agree with you that the six days are

literal days. That's what the words mean. Trying to claim they can be interpreted as longer periods of time is just forcing an alien notion
onto it."

A brother replied: "Yep. You take it on what it says or you don't. As

I see it, it is that simple."

Both of you believe the days of Genesis are literal 24-hour days. Yet
Jesus established his 3-year ministry as a single day, in which he was
the light of that long day, before the night came when he left the world.

Wait, there's more. Jesus Christ is the light of Genesis chapter one.
The cross is the Beginning of the creation of God. Jesus is the Lamb
slain BEFORE the foundation of the world. Jesus said: "... It is not for
you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his
own power."

One Christian defines the 'days' of Genesis as six periods of
twenty-four hours. Then he says, "You take it on what it says or you
don't." The question is, what does the Spirit say?

How does the Father define days, times, and seasons? Does the Spirit
define days literally according to human perception? Absolutely not:

|ore4+oAnd God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And
the evening and the morning were the first day.|ore4 (Gen 1:5)

The succeeding days followed suit.

"(Psalms 90:4) For a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday
when it is past, and as a watch in the night."

"(II Peter 3:8) But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that
one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as
one day."

The Apostle says a thousand years is but a day to the Father. And the
word, 'thousand' is equally flexible, and is being used as we use the
word, 'zillion'. So how many hours is that long of a day? Zillions?

Jesus says that the length of the days is not absolute:

"(Matthew 24:22) And except those days should be shortened, there should
no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be SHORTENED."

"(Mark 13:20) And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no
flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he
hath shortened the days."

Ergo the Father will shorten days to a period of time less than usual reckoning. So we know God can count a thousand years (or less, or more)
as a single day.

"(Job 19:25) For I know that my redeemer liveth, and that he shall stand
at the latter day upon the earth:"

Herein the phrase, "latter day" means a later age. It is not conveying
an exact period of twenty-four hours.

In your zeal to convert Atheists to the philosophy of Creationsism you
two men have converted yourselves to medievalism. ;) Recall the time we
call, "the dark ages" of Europe. Those were "dark" days or a "long night."

The creation of Genesis chapter one is not about zoology. It is about
Jesus Christ, and the spiritual heaven and earth being established upon
him at the cross. Thus arguing over, or speculating over, the length of
the days in Genesis misses the entire point of Genesis--Jesus Christ!

Genesis chapter one began with Jesus Christ. "Let there be light" is in reference to Jesus:

"(John 8:12) Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of
the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall
have the light of life."

"(2 Corinthians 4:4) In whom the god of this world hath blinded the
minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel
of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them."

"Let there be light" is about Jesus. This was the Father's first
creative act, to beget his Son from himself. Take note that in Genesis
the "Sun" is not created until the 4th day, while the light is the first
act of creation, manifest on the first day. There is no sun or moon yet
to measure a 24-hour cycle, until the 4th day. This manifestation of the light of the creation is God begetting his Son from out of himself. John
the Beloved Apostle tells us exactly this:

"(John 1:1-4) In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God,
and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things
were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
In him was life; and the life was the LIGHT of men. And the LIGHT
shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not."

The philosophy of Creationism is not going to convert atheists to
believe the gospel of Jesus Christ. A proper understanding of the first chapters of Genesis *might* bring them to wonder and seek God.

Once you see that "The Beginning" and "Let there be Light" are Names of
God's Only Begotten Son, you can't unsee it:

"In the Beginning was the Word."

"In the Beginning" is a Name, not a time.

Mr. Beginning was the Word (Logos, divine image). And the Word (Mr. Beginning) was with God. And the Word (Mr. Beginning) was God.

John repeats Jesus: "I am Alpha and Omega, the BEGINNING and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the
Almighty."

John says: "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God,
and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things
were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
In him was life; and the life was the light of men."

So Jesus Christ is both the Beginning and the Light.

He is also the Omega, the ending. Lights out for all of this world.

And Genesis was written about 3000 years before Christ, while being surprisingly accurate in portraying the ages of the past 2000 years
since Jesus ascended. If you read Genesis understanding its idioms, you
can see it is a series of prophecies concerning Jesus Christ.

Some of the "days" of Genesis are very long ages. Jesus is both the
Beginning of Genesis and the Ending, or the Seventh Day of Rest. He is
Lord of Light and Lord of the Sabbath. If you can't see Jesus in the
first day of the Genesis creation then flip the night switch and see the light.

Moses died approximately 1,450 years before the time of Jesus Christ. He authored the Torah during his 40 years in the desert.


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