• Satan's greatest holliday almost upon you.

    From James to alt.bible,alt.religion.christian on Fri Oct 10 17:17:22 2025
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    Satan's greatest holiday almost upon you.

    Get ready for it! Here it comes.You can't miss it. Buy the costumes
    for the kiddies: ghosts, demons, vampires, Devils, witches, Jesus.
    Whoops! Wrong holiday.

    I wonder what demon costume Jesus would have worn at Halloween?
    Surely God wouldn't have minded. It's all only fun for the kids.
    Picture the boy Jesus coming to your door wearing a Devil's costume
    with horns saying TRICK or TREAT. I wonder what his trick would have
    been?

    At any rate, the churches are geared up for it in most all
    denominations. Their activities vary and some let you even come in
    costume.

    Yes, millions of people celebrate Satan's holiday. Do you?

    Sincerely James
    "Can Peacekeeping Efforts Create a Peaceful World?
    Get the Answer". See jw.org (10/10/2025)
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  • From Robert@Robert@his.way to alt.bible,alt.religion.christian on Fri Oct 10 22:15:50 2025
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    On 10/10/25 2:17 PM, James wrote:
    Satan's greatest holiday almost upon you.

    Get ready for it! Here it comes.You can't miss it. Buy the costumes
    for the kiddies: ghosts, demons, vampires, Devils, witches, Jesus.
    Whoops! Wrong holiday.

    Halloween is not a holiday.


    I wonder what demon costume Jesus would have worn at Halloween?
    Surely God wouldn't have minded. It's all only fun for the kids.
    Picture the boy Jesus coming to your door wearing a Devil's costume
    with horns saying TRICK or TREAT. I wonder what his trick would have
    been?

    Why pretend you do not know? After all you wore some sort of a costume
    all your childhood life, and looked forward to it.



    At any rate, the churches are geared up for it in most all
    denominations. Their activities vary and some let you even come in
    costume.

    You do not know that for a fact. In fact if you dared to look at a
    church, if they mentioned the day at all they provided alternative fun
    for all who attend Like a harvest festival.

    **************************
    What's the history of modern Halloween traditions?

    Now that you're more familiar with the history of Halloween, you might
    be wondering where trick-or-treating and candy corn came into playrCotwo modern aspects of the holiday.

    There are a few theories that explain why we've come to raid our
    neighbors' homes for candy on October 31. One idea is that the custom originated from the Irish tradition of guising, which is when young
    Irish people would dress in costume before singing songs, telling jokes,
    or performing any other sort of rCLtrickrCY before collecting a "treat" of fruit, nuts, or coins. Another possible origin story traces back to 15th-century Christianity. At that time, Christians would partake in the
    act of souling, which meant they'd go from door to door and ask for
    "treats," otherwise known as "soul cakes." They would take these
    pastries in exchange for a promise to pray for the souls of the
    homeownerrCOs dead relatives.

    As for candy corn, the tri-colored sweet is a well-known symbol of
    Halloween today, but it hasn't always been that way. The birth of candy
    corn can be traced back to Philadelphia in the 1880s, which is when a candy-maker at the Wunderle Candy Company allegedly invented it. In
    1898, the Goelitz Company began to mass-produce candy corn, dubbing it "Chicken Feed," which led to an increase in its popularity. The craze
    reached its peak in the 1950s, and candy corn's identity as a Halloween
    staple became solidified in the U.S.
    ********************************
    The Puritans who came to America were opposed to those who made it a
    pagan type celebration.


    Yes, millions of people celebrate Satan's holiday. Do you?


    Many JW's let their kids celebrate it, and or feed the kids treats lest
    their homes be egged.

    Sincerely James

    What day of the week do Jehovah Witnesses go to church?

    The weekend meeting, usually held on Sunday, comprises a 30-minute
    public talk by a congregation elder or ministerial servant and a
    one-hour question-and-answer study of a Bible-based article from The Watchtower magazine, with questions prepared by the Watch Tower Society
    and the answers provided in the magazine.

    That is called indoctrination. Not a question and answer by the people,
    but a following of a script to brainwash people and teach them to parrot answers given by the magazine, not the Word of God.


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  • From Samuel Spade@sam@spade.invalid to alt.bible,alt.religion.christian on Sat Oct 11 00:02:53 2025
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    James wrote:

    Picture the boy Jesus coming to your door wearing a Devil's costume
    with horns saying TRICK or TREAT. I wonder what his trick would have
    been?

    Honest & truly, I'd rather see Jesus at my door wearing a devil costume,
    than a gaggle of JWs all wearing suits and ties and white hankies.

    Do they not comprehend how rude & crude it is to come to your door,
    demand immediate attention, and presume to speak for Jesus? Not to
    mention that it implies they don't hold their religion in high esteem.

    Sorry, James. If I kept my silence, the very stones of the earth would
    cry out.
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  • From Samuel Spade@sam@spade.invalid to alt.bible,alt.religion.christian on Sat Oct 11 00:13:55 2025
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    Robert <Robert@his.way> wrote:

    What day of the week do Jehovah Witnesses go to church?

    The weekend meeting, usually held on Sunday, comprises a 30-minute
    public talk by a congregation elder or ministerial servant and a
    one-hour question-and-answer study of a Bible-based article from The Watchtower magazine, with questions prepared by the Watch Tower Society
    and the answers provided in the magazine.

    That is called indoctrination. Not a question and answer by the people,
    but a following of a script to brainwash people and teach them to parrot answers given by the magazine, not the Word of God.

    Good point, Robert. So, if people were to spontaneously ask you
    off-script questions about your religious thoughts, you would give them
    calm, candid, & thoughtful questions without retreating.

    Right?
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  • From James to alt.bible,alt.religion.christian on Sat Oct 11 09:08:30 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.bible

    On Fri, 10 Oct 2025 22:15:50 -0700, Robert <Robert@his.way> wrote:

    On 10/10/25 2:17 PM, James wrote:
    Satan's greatest holiday almost upon you.

    Get ready for it! Here it comes.You can't miss it. Buy the costumes
    for the kiddies: ghosts, demons, vampires, Devils, witches, Jesus.
    Whoops! Wrong holiday.

    Halloween is not a holiday.

    "Halloween, a holiday observed on October 31..." (https://www.britannica.com/topic/Halloween)



    I wonder what demon costume Jesus would have worn at Halloween?
    Surely God wouldn't have minded. It's all only fun for the kids.
    Picture the boy Jesus coming to your door wearing a Devil's costume
    with horns saying TRICK or TREAT. I wonder what his trick would have
    been?

    Why pretend you do not know? After all you wore some sort of a costume
    all your childhood life, and looked forward to it.

    Raised in Catholicism, I didn't know any better. Those raised by JW's,
    never participated in that holiday. But what's important is NOW,
    because judgments are coming.




    At any rate, the churches are geared up for it in most all
    denominations. Their activities vary and some let you even come in
    costume.

    You do not know that for a fact. In fact if you dared to look at a
    church, if they mentioned the day at all they provided alternative fun
    for all who attend Like a harvest festival.

    I got that fact from a church. (come in costume)

    "Come-in-Costume Halloween Sunday 2024"
    The First Presbyterian Church on the Park In Canton, New York (https://www.churchonthepark.org/album/come-costume-halloween-sunday-2024)


    **************************
    What's the history of modern Halloween traditions?

    those who believe and follow the Bible, know that they cannot mix
    demonic things, with Godly things. And it doesn't take an Einstein to
    see the demonic connection of Halloween with the many costumes of
    witches, ghosts, goblins and devils, etc. Yes Halloween's roots go
    deeper than just some fun activities on a certain day. Notice what
    this encyclopedia says:

    "Halloween

    also called ALL HALLOWS' EVE, or EVENING, a holy or hallowed evening
    observed on October 31, the eve of All Saints' Day. In modern times,
    it is the
    occasion for pranks and for children requesting treats or threatening
    tricks.

    In ancient Britain and Ireland, the Celtic festival of Samhain eve was
    observed on
    October 31, at the end of summer. This date was also the eve of the
    new year in
    both Celtic and Anglo-Saxon times and was the occasion for one of the
    ancient
    fire festivals when huge bonfires were set on hilltops to frighten
    away evil spirits.
    The date was connected with the return of herds from pasture, and laws
    and land
    tenures were renewed. The souls of the dead were supposed to revisit
    their homes
    on this day, and the autumnal festival acquired sinister significance,
    with ghosts,
    witches, hobgoblins, black cats, fairies, and demons of all kinds said
    to be
    roaming about. It was the time to placate the supernatural powers
    controlling the
    processes of nature. In addition, Halloween was thought to be the most
    0. time for divinations concerning marriage, luck, health, and death.
    It was the only day on which the help of the devil was invoked for
    such purposes. (see also Index: .)

    The pagan observances influenced the Christian festival of All
    Hallows' Eve,
    celebrated on the same date." (1999 . Britannica)

    Yes, true Christians never mix the white (true Christian doctrine) and
    the black (demonic teachings) to get '.. Notice the principle stated
    by the apostle Paul at 2 Co 6:14-17,

    "14 Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do
    righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can
    light have with darkness? 15 What harmony is there between Christ and
    .? What does a believer have in common with an unbeliever? 16 What
    agreement is there between the temple of God and idols? For we are the
    temple of the living God. As God has said: "I will live with them and
    walk among them, and I will be their God, and they will be my people."
    17 "Therefore come out from them and be separate, says the Lord. Touch
    no unclean thing, and I will receive you."" (NIV)

    I hope this has helped you to see why genuine Christians do not
    celebrate Halloween.


    Now that you're more familiar with the history of Halloween, you might
    be wondering where trick-or-treating and candy corn came into playutwo >modern aspects of the holiday.

    I thought you said Halloween wasn't a holiday?


    There are a few theories that explain why we've come to raid our
    neighbors' homes for candy on October 31. One idea is that the custom >originated from the Irish tradition of guising, which is when young
    Irish people would dress in costume before singing songs, telling jokes,
    or performing any other sort of otricko before collecting a "treat" of >fruit, nuts, or coins. Another possible origin story traces back to >15th-century Christianity. At that time, Christians would partake in the
    act of souling, which meant they'd go from door to door and ask for >"treats," otherwise known as "soul cakes." They would take these
    pastries in exchange for a promise to pray for the souls of the
    homeownerAs dead relatives.

    As for candy corn, the tri-colored sweet is a well-known symbol of
    Halloween today, but it hasn't always been that way. The birth of candy
    corn can be traced back to Philadelphia in the 1880s, which is when a >candy-maker at the Wunderle Candy Company allegedly invented it. In
    1898, the Goelitz Company began to mass-produce candy corn, dubbing it >"Chicken Feed," which led to an increase in its popularity. The craze >reached its peak in the 1950s, and candy corn's identity as a Halloween >staple became solidified in the U.S.
    ********************************
    The Puritans who came to America were opposed to those who made it a
    pagan type celebration.

    Thanks for the info.



    Yes, millions of people celebrate Satan's holiday. Do you?


    Many JW's let their kids celebrate it,

    If they do, they are former JW's, or non-active ones.

    and or feed the kids treats lest
    their homes be egged.

    Yes, the trick part of Halloween can be rowdy and highly unscriptural.
    ("love your neighbor..."- Mt 19:19)

    Sincerely James

    What day of the week do Jehovah Witnesses go to church?

    Days of the week. It can vary congregation to congregation. Our
    congregation holds the mid-weak meeting on Wed evening. Then, since
    most people don't work on Sunday, we hold the public meeting then.

    The weekend meeting, usually held on Sunday, comprises a 30-minute
    public talk by a congregation elder or ministerial servant and a
    one-hour question-and-answer study of a Bible-based article from The >Watchtower magazine, with questions prepared by the Watch Tower Society
    and the answers provided in the magazine.

    That is called indoctrination. Not a question and answer by the people,
    but a following of a script to brainwash people and teach them to parrot >answers given by the magazine, not the Word of God.

    The Watchtower magazine is a Bible-aid magazine. Yes, it follows Bible guidelines in those articles, but many of the JW's when answering, add
    their own ideas or facts. All JW's are encouraged to research the
    various Bible subjects listed in the Watchtower.

    There is a big difference between indoctrination and brainwashing.
    Notice AI again:

    "AI Overview
    Brainwashing is an extreme, coercive, and forcible form of
    indoctrination that involves using methods like isolation, abuse, and
    sleep deprivation to dismantle an individual's core beliefs and
    enforce a new, often conflicting, set of ideas.

    Indoctrination, on the other hand, is a broader and often more subtle
    process of teaching a specific set of beliefs without encouraging
    critical analysis, typically through repeated instruction and
    emotional manipulation. While indoctrination aims to create a loyal
    follower who accepts the doctrine, brainwashing aims to obliterate the individual's original self. "

    Sincerely James
    "Can Peacekeeping Efforts Create a Peaceful World?
    Get the Answer". See jw.org (10/11/2025)
    .
    .
    .
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  • From James to alt.bible,alt.religion.christian on Sat Oct 11 10:06:26 2025
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    On Sat, 11 Oct 2025 00:02:53 -0700, Samuel Spade <sam@spade.invalid>
    wrote:

    James wrote:

    Picture the boy Jesus coming to your door wearing a Devil's costume
    with horns saying TRICK or TREAT. I wonder what his trick would have
    been?

    Honest & truly, I'd rather see Jesus at my door wearing a devil costume,
    than a gaggle of JWs all wearing suits and ties and white hankies.

    OK, then they will wear black leather jackets and boots and dungarees
    and have switchblades in their pockets, and ride up on a Harley
    Davidson. Would that please you more?

    At any rate, the dress code has changed. We no longer have to wear
    suits and ties. But we don't copy the worlds dress code with holes in
    their pants, and showing some of their buts.


    Do they not comprehend how rude & crude it is to come to your door,
    demand immediate attention, and presume to speak for Jesus?

    But that is how Jesus and his apostles did it in the `1st century.

    If your house was on fire, wouldn't you want someone to come to your
    door to warn you? It is a similar thing with the house to house work
    by JW's.

    Oh by the way, they also help people in distress, and in 3rd world
    countries, they teach people who can't read, how to read. So the door
    work is not just only religion.


    Not to
    mention that it implies they don't hold their religion in high esteem.

    You can't get it any higher than the JW Bible-based religious beliefs.


    Sorry, James. If I kept my silence, the very stones of the earth would
    cry out.

    Yes, the pebbles might for you, but for us the boulders would cry out,
    because Biblically it could mean your life!

    Sincerely James
    "Can Peacekeeping Efforts Create a Peaceful World?
    Get the Answer". See jw.org (10/11/2025)




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  • From Robert@.robert@mu.way to alt.bible, alt.religion.christian on Sat Oct 11 15:25:11 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.bible

    On Oct 11, 2025, James wrote (Message-ID:<58hkek9kg87avh3bj49m5kqe27vefkkpkl@4ax.com>):

    On Fri, 10 Oct 2025 22:15:50 -0700, Robert<Robert@his.way> wrote:

    On 10/10/25 2:17 PM, James wrote:
    Satan's greatest holiday almost upon you.

    Get ready for it! Here it comes.You can't miss it. Buy the costumes
    for the kiddies: ghosts, demons, vampires, Devils, witches, Jesus. Whoops! Wrong holiday.

    Halloween is not a holiday.

    "Halloween, a holiday observed on October 31..." (https://www.britannica.com/topic/Halloween)

    Holiday is when people take time off from work, school, etc.
    No one does that,





    I wonder what demon costume Jesus would have worn at Halloween?
    Surely God wouldn't have minded. It's all only fun for the kids.
    Picture the boy Jesus coming to your door wearing a Devil's costume
    with horns saying TRICK or TREAT. I wonder what his trick would have been?

    Why pretend you do not know? After all you wore some sort of a costume
    all your childhood life, and looked forward to it.

    Raised in Catholicism, I didn't know any better. Those raised by JW's,
    never participated in that holiday. But what's important is NOW,
    because judgments are coming.

    From where, and when? Are you near death?





    At any rate, the churches are geared up for it in most all
    denominations. Their activities vary and some let you even come in costume.

    You do not know that for a fact. In fact if you dared to look at a
    church, if they mentioned the day at all they provided alternative fun
    for all who attend Like a harvest festival.

    I got that fact from a church. (come in costume)

    "Come-in-Costume Halloween Sunday 2024"
    The First Presbyterian Church on the Park In Canton, New York (https://www.churchonthepark.org/album/come-costume-halloween-sunday-2024)

    That was one year ago. It represents one church, and if they were calling people to come to a service in a clown suit, then it shows that church is not worshipping God. That is not typical for a God fearing Church.



    **************************
    What's the history of modern Halloween traditions?

    those who believe and follow the Bible, know that they cannot mix
    demonic things, with Godly things. And it doesn't take an Einstein to
    see the demonic connection of Halloween with the many costumes of
    witches, ghosts, goblins and devils, etc. Yes Halloween's roots go
    deeper than just some fun activities on a certain day. Notice what
    this encyclopedia says:

    "Halloween

    also called ALL HALLOWS' EVE, or EVENING, a holy or hallowed evening
    observed on October 31, the eve of All Saints' Day. In modern times,
    it is the
    occasion for pranks and for children requesting treats or threatening
    tricks.

    In ancient Britain and Ireland, the Celtic festival of Samhain eve was observed on
    October 31, at the end of summer. This date was also the eve of the
    new year in
    both Celtic and Anglo-Saxon times and was the occasion for one of the
    ancient
    fire festivals when huge bonfires were set on hilltops to frighten
    away evil spirits.
    The date was connected with the return of herds from pasture, and laws
    and land
    tenures were renewed. The souls of the dead were supposed to revisit
    their homes
    on this day, and the autumnal festival acquired sinister significance,
    with ghosts,
    witches, hobgoblins, black cats, fairies, and demons of all kinds said
    to be
    roaming about. It was the time to placate the supernatural powers
    controlling the
    processes of nature. In addition, Halloween was thought to be the most
    0. time for divinations concerning marriage, luck, health, and death.
    It was the only day on which the help of the devil was invoked for
    such purposes. (see also Index: .)

    The pagan observances influenced the Christian festival of All
    Hallows' Eve,
    celebrated on the same date." (1999 . Britannica)

    Yes, true Christians never mix the white (true Christian doctrine) and
    the black (demonic teachings) to get '.. Notice the principle stated
    by the apostle Paul at 2 Co 6:14-17,

    "14 Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do
    righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can
    light have with darkness? 15 What harmony is there between Christ and
    .? What does a believer have in common with an unbeliever? 16 What
    agreement is there between the temple of God and idols? For we are the
    temple of the living God. As God has said: "I will live with them and
    walk among them, and I will be their God, and they will be my people."
    17 "Therefore come out from them and be separate, says the Lord. Touch
    no unclean thing, and I will receive you."" (NIV)

    I hope this has helped you to see why genuine Christians do not
    celebrate Halloween.

    You are not a believer in Jesus Christ. Like many people used to do, they called themselves christian solely because they lived in America which at the time was considered a rCyChristian NationrCO. JWrCOs used to deny that they were christians because they were JWrCOs, and especially because they denied Jesus as being God, and solely a man. They also denied that Jesus was resurrected and seen by many people, and for that reason denied being Christians. This year you have waffled on the point of Jesus being resurrected, and seen of others. Sometimes admitting that he is in Heaven, next to His Heavenly Father. Yet still waffle on how he got there. Sometimes denying that he has a real body, and other times stating that it is a spiritual body, like a ghost. Do why act as if you were a rCyreal christianrCO?

    Sounds more like you think Jesus is celebrating halloween in real life, all the time. So then, how can you relate in any way shape or form to know what a rCLgenuine ChristianrCY is?



    Now that you're more familiar with the history of Halloween, you might
    be wondering where trick-or-treating and candy corn came into playrCotwo modern aspects of the holiday.

    I thought you said Halloween wasn't a holiday?

    I did, and the comment I surrounded with asterisks was not my own. You should have treated as such, and as a total thought, not one to pick apart into
    sound bites.




    There are a few theories that explain why we've come to raid our
    neighbors' homes for candy on October 31. One idea is that the custom originated from the Irish tradition of guising, which is when young
    Irish people would dress in costume before singing songs, telling jokes,
    or performing any other sort of rCLtrickrCY before collecting a "treat" of fruit, nuts, or coins. Another possible origin story traces back to 15th-century Christianity. At that time, Christians would partake in the act of souling, which meant they'd go from door to door and ask for "treats," otherwise known as "soul cakes." They would take these
    pastries in exchange for a promise to pray for the souls of the homeownerrCOs dead relatives.

    As for candy corn, the tri-colored sweet is a well-known symbol of Halloween today, but it hasn't always been that way. The birth of candy corn can be traced back to Philadelphia in the 1880s, which is when a candy-maker at the Wunderle Candy Company allegedly invented it. In
    1898, the Goelitz Company began to mass-produce candy corn, dubbing it "Chicken Feed," which led to an increase in its popularity. The craze reached its peak in the 1950s, and candy corn's identity as a Halloween staple became solidified in the U.S.
    ********************************
    The Puritans who came to America were opposed to those who made it a
    pagan type celebration.

    Thanks for the info.

    Then why contest it? Why make an issue out of it when the whole understanding of the background varies all over the place?

    Most of the people that are JWrCOs now are people who celebrate the rCLDay of the deadrCY.
    Why donrCOt you rail against them every year on their appointed time?
    Also why do you now consider that you are equally yoked with rCOchristiansrCO yet consider yourself above reproach while quoting Paul saying that you are
    to have nothing to do with them, yet here you are, hanging in so-called christian and religious NGrCOs?

    And on that point, why are the JW NGrCOs dead?




    Yes, millions of people celebrate Satan's holiday. Do you?

    Many JW's let their kids celebrate it,

    If they do, they are former JW's, or non-active ones.

    There are active JWrCOs around here that do just what I said they do, and
    that is why I posted the comment.
    and or feed the kids treats lest
    their homes be egged.

    Yes, the trick part of Halloween can be rowdy and highly unscriptural.
    ("love your neighbor..."- Mt 19:19)

    Why the quoted scripture? Are you inferring that trick or treaters are all christians?
    Typically it is the Karen type homes that are egged.


    What day of the week do Jehovah Witnesses go to church?

    Days of the week. It can vary congregation to congregation. Our
    congregation holds the mid-weak meeting on Wed evening. Then, since
    most people don't work on Sunday, we hold the public meeting then.

    Interesting, So you have private/closed meetings, and Public meetings?
    Seems that they are imitating the days that typical protestant churches hold their services.



    The weekend meeting, usually held on Sunday, comprises a 30-minute
    public talk by a congregation elder or ministerial servant and a
    one-hour question-and-answer study of a Bible-based article from The Watchtower magazine, with questions prepared by the Watch Tower Society
    and the answers provided in the magazine.

    That is called indoctrination. Not a question and answer by the people,
    but a following of a script to brainwash people and teach them to parrot answers given by the magazine, not the Word of God.

    The Watchtower magazine is a Bible-aid magazine. Yes, it follows Bible guidelines in those articles, but many of the JW's when answering, add
    their own ideas or facts. All JW's are encouraged to research the
    various Bible subjects listed in the Watchtower.

    The Book of Mormons is also a Bible-aid book. Except thy donrCOt modify it anywhere as frequently as the JW does.


    There is a big difference between indoctrination and brainwashing.
    Notice AI again:

    I snipped the AI trash. It is a complier of Human info, has no thought, no wisdom and is nothing but a program. It takes its source information from anywhere it can get it, and does not discriminate in whether the info is
    good, evil, Truth, or lies.

    Yet you use it as a source of proof and a justifier for your thoughts. Like a child who says, But mommy, Charles, Joe and Stanley do it.

    You are hypocritical to your statement above that Paul said not to be unequally yoked together, yet you accept its thoughts.

    Remember when Satan quoted the scripture to Jesus in order to tempt him? No
    it is that your lazy mind has yielded its skill, no matter what level you think at, to a program.

    AI has already cost many people their lives. Here you are slowly yielding
    your very soul to it.

    There is another person here who used it a lot. For self justification as well, and their defense was that it quoted scripture and said stuff that he/she agreed with and that justified its use, not even realizing the points it made were often erroneous, even if it was slight. Like a little white lie is acceptable in the grander scheme of things. Plus the ends justified the means, type thinking.

    God gives the Born Again believer His Holy Sprit to lead them into all truth. To aid, assist, and comfort us, also to pray through the heart of a Born
    Again believer the desires of their hearts, their questions, needs, etc. And the Heavenly Father speaks to us by His Holy Spirit, for all who have the
    ears to hear, and do not quench the Holy Spirit. This is what scripture
    speaks to man. And is only the tip of an iceberg in learning and understanding.

    It is also for those that are spiritual.

    Gal 6:1-10

    1 Brothers, if a man is overtaken in some deviation, you, the spiritual ones, restore such a one in the spirit of meekness, considering yourself, that you not also be tempted.

    2 Bear one another's burdens, and so you will fulfill the law of Christ.

    3 For if anyone thinks to be something, he deceives himself, being nothing.

    4 But let each one prove his work, and then he alone will have a boast in himself and not as to another.

    5 For each one will bear his own load.

    6 But let the one being taught in the Word share with the one teaching, in
    all good things.

    7 Do not be deceived, God is not mocked. For whatever a man may sow, that he also will reap.

    8 For the one sowing to his flesh will reap corruption of the flesh. But theone sowing to the Spirit will reap everlasting life from the Spirit.

    9 But we should not weaken in doing good, for in due time we shall reap, if
    we do not faint.

    10 So then, as we have time, let us work good toward all, and especially toward the household of the faith.

    These scriptures are deep, and to those that are strong in the Lord, even deeper.

    None of them are to be taken lightly.



    Sincerely James
    .
    .
    .
    --

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  • From Samuel Spade@sam@spade.invalid to alt.bible,alt.religion.christian on Sat Oct 11 20:31:21 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.bible

    James wrote:
    On Sat, 11 Oct 2025 00:02:53 -0700, Samuel Spade <sam@spade.invalid> wrote:

    James wrote:

    Picture the boy Jesus coming to your door wearing a Devil's costume
    with horns saying TRICK or TREAT. I wonder what his trick would have
    been?

    Honest & truly, I'd rather see Jesus at my door wearing a devil costume, >than a gaggle of JWs all wearing suits and ties and white hankies.

    OK, then they will wear black leather jackets and boots and dungarees
    and have switchblades in their pockets, and ride up on a Harley
    Davidson. Would that please you more?

    No. I'd assume they were bona fide bikers, and not even answer the door
    to tell them politely but firmly "not interested".

    Rude is rude, no matter how you dress.


    At any rate, the dress code has changed. We no longer have to wear
    suits and ties. But we don't copy the worlds dress code with holes in
    their pants, and showing some of their buts.

    I agree. Holey jeans are tacky, even if they contain a nice ass. Purple
    hair and tramp stamps are also yucky.


    Do they not comprehend how rude & crude it is to come to your door,
    demand immediate attention, and presume to speak for Jesus?

    But that is how Jesus and his apostles did it in the `1st century.

    We don't know that. Door to door evangelizing is risky enough now, let
    alone in the roman republic. In the stories, the people came to Jesus.


    If your house was on fire, wouldn't you want someone to come to your
    door to warn you? It is a similar thing with the house to house work
    by JW's.

    Completely different. The fire is in the eye of the beholder. It's not
    real.

    Would you like atheists inviting themselves to your home, telling you to
    repent of your false religion and accept reality into your heart and
    brain? Would you read the complimentary copy of The Gospel of the
    Flying Spaghetti Monster?


    Oh by the way, they also help people in distress, and in 3rd world
    countries, they teach people who can't read, how to read. So the door
    work is not just only religion.

    That's great. Atheists are also quite charitable. I've given more to
    3rd worlders than the whole USAID will give next year.


    Not to
    mention that it implies they don't hold their religion in high esteem.

    You can't get it any higher than the JW Bible-based religious beliefs.


    Sorry, James. If I kept my silence, the very stones of the earth would
    cry out.

    Yes, the pebbles might for you, but for us the boulders would cry out, because Biblically it could mean your life!

    Boulders don't believe the Bible.

    What do they know that you don't know?
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  • From Christ Rose@usenet@christrose.news to alt.bible,alt.religion.christian on Sun Oct 12 09:26:11 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.bible

    ========================================
    Sat, 11 Oct 2025 20:31:21 -0700
    <ti6mek59v2jstack94d1ld3j48u6e8fr9u@4ax.com>
    Samuel Spade <sam@spade.invalid> wrote: ========================================
    Door to door evangelizing is risky enough now, let
    alone in the roman republic. In the stories, the people came to Jesus.


    That's because he offered them free food (John 6:26) and healing (Mark
    3:9-10; Luke 6:18-19). They weren't seeking Him out for spiritual
    salvation, except for His chosen disciples (John 6:68-70).
    --
    Have you heard the good news Christ died for our sins (rCa), and God
    raised Him from the dead?

    That Christ died for our sins shows we're sinners who deserve the death penalty. That God raised Him from the dead shows Christ's death
    satisfied God's righteous demands against our sin (Romans 3:25; 1 John
    2:1-2). This means God can now remain just, while forgiving you of your
    sins, and saving you from eternal damnation.

    On the basis of Christ's death and resurrection for our sins, call on
    the name of the Lord to save you: "For 'everyone who calls on the name
    of the Lord will be saved'" (Romans 10:13, ESV).

    https://christrose.news/salvation

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  • From Christ Rose@usenet@christrose.news to alt.bible,alt.religion.christian on Sun Oct 12 09:30:32 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.bible

    ========================================
    Sat, 11 Oct 2025 20:31:21 -0700
    <ti6mek59v2jstack94d1ld3j48u6e8fr9u@4ax.com>
    Samuel Spade <sam@spade.invalid> wrote: ========================================
    Would you like atheists inviting themselves to your home, telling you to repent of your false religion and accept reality into your heart and
    brain?

    They already do. They're in the local schools trying to force children
    to normalize their perverted agendas and lifestyles, while trying to get prayer eliminated. It was the same in the Bible. The degenerates (such
    as the Benjamites in Judges 19 and the Sodomites) tried to force people
    to participate in their gay-pride agenda by force. Today they get people
    fired from their jobs if they don't honor their morally perverted agenda
    in school and work-place.
    --
    Have you heard the good news Christ died for our sins (rCa), and God
    raised Him from the dead?

    That Christ died for our sins shows we're sinners who deserve the death penalty. That God raised Him from the dead shows Christ's death
    satisfied God's righteous demands against our sin (Romans 3:25; 1 John
    2:1-2). This means God can now remain just, while forgiving you of your
    sins, and saving you from eternal damnation.

    On the basis of Christ's death and resurrection for our sins, call on
    the name of the Lord to save you: "For 'everyone who calls on the name
    of the Lord will be saved'" (Romans 10:13, ESV).

    https://christrose.news/salvation

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  • From James to alt.bible,alt.religion.christian on Sun Oct 12 12:35:02 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.bible

    On Sat, 11 Oct 2025 20:31:21 -0700, Samuel Spade <sam@spade.invalid>
    wrote:

    James wrote:
    On Sat, 11 Oct 2025 00:02:53 -0700, Samuel Spade <sam@spade.invalid> wrote: >>
    James wrote:

    Picture the boy Jesus coming to your door wearing a Devil's costume
    with horns saying TRICK or TREAT. I wonder what his trick would have
    been?

    Honest & truly, I'd rather see Jesus at my door wearing a devil costume,
    than a gaggle of JWs all wearing suits and ties and white hankies.

    OK, then they will wear black leather jackets and boots and dungarees
    and have switchblades in their pockets, and ride up on a Harley
    Davidson. Would that please you more?

    No. I'd assume they were bona fide bikers, and not even answer the door
    to tell them politely but firmly "not interested".

    Rude is rude, no matter how you dress.

    JW's don't bring a message of insults but rather one of hope and
    delight. God will soon get rid of all painful things, and even death
    itself. No one need die anymore. Surely this is better news that you
    get elsewhere.



    At any rate, the dress code has changed. We no longer have to wear
    suits and ties. But we don't copy the worlds dress code with holes in
    their pants, and showing some of their buts.

    I agree. Holey jeans are tacky, even if they contain a nice ass. Purple
    hair and tramp stamps are also yucky.


    Do they not comprehend how rude & crude it is to come to your door,
    demand immediate attention, and presume to speak for Jesus?

    But that is how Jesus and his apostles did it in the `1st century.

    We don't know that. Door to door evangelizing is risky enough now, let
    alone in the roman republic. In the stories, the people came to Jesus.

    Actually they also came to them:

    - New King James
    Acts 20:20 "and how I kept back nothing that was helpful, but
    proclaimed it to you, and taught you publicly and from house to house,


    If your house was on fire, wouldn't you want someone to come to your
    door to warn you? It is a similar thing with the house to house work
    by JW's.

    Completely different. The fire is in the eye of the beholder. It's not >real.

    --a person comes to your door saying your house is on fire.
    -JW's come to your house saying the end is coming soon.


    Would you like atheists inviting themselves to your home, telling you to >repent of your false religion and accept reality into your heart and
    brain? Would you read the complimentary copy of The Gospel of the
    Flying Spaghetti Monster?

    I would first want to see their EVIDENCE. If they couldn't produce it,
    then bye bye blackbird.

    The Bible is in harmony with TRUE science. Historical records have
    verified much of the Bible. Thus there is a lot of EVIDENCE. Not 100%
    yet, but enough to build truths on.




    Oh by the way, they also help people in distress, and in 3rd world
    countries, they teach people who can't read, how to read. So the door
    work is not just only religion.

    That's great. Atheists are also quite charitable. I've given more to
    3rd worlders than the whole USAID will give next year.

    That is good. Keep up the fine work.

    >

    Not to
    mention that it implies they don't hold their religion in high esteem.

    You can't get it any higher than the JW Bible-based religious beliefs.


    Sorry, James. If I kept my silence, the very stones of the earth would
    cry out.

    Yes, the pebbles might for you, but for us the boulders would cry out,
    because Biblically it could mean your life!

    Boulders don't believe the Bible.

    Neither do stones.


    What do they know that you don't know?

    They are just like their mindless counterpart; evolution, and know
    absolutely zero, and have the wisdom of a burned-out light bulb.

    Sincerely James
    "Can Peacekeeping Efforts Create a Peaceful World?
    Get the Answer". See jw.org (10/12/2025)
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  • From James to alt.bible,alt.religion.christian on Sun Oct 12 12:42:13 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.bible

    On Sat, 11 Oct 2025 20:31:21 -0700, Samuel Spade <sam@spade.invalid>
    wrote:

    James wrote:
    On Sat, 11 Oct 2025 00:02:53 -0700, Samuel Spade <sam@spade.invalid> wrote: >>
    James wrote:

    Picture the boy Jesus coming to your door wearing a Devil's costume
    with horns saying TRICK or TREAT. I wonder what his trick would have
    been?

    Honest & truly, I'd rather see Jesus at my door wearing a devil costume,
    than a gaggle of JWs all wearing suits and ties and white hankies.

    OK, then they will wear black leather jackets and boots and dungarees
    and have switchblades in their pockets, and ride up on a Harley
    Davidson. Would that please you more?

    No. I'd assume they were bona fide bikers, and not even answer the door
    to tell them politely but firmly "not interested".

    Rude is rude, no matter how you dress.

    JW's don't bring a message of insults but rather one of hope and
    delight. God will soon get rid of all painful things, and even death
    itself. No one need die anymore. Surely this is better news that you
    get elsewhere.



    At any rate, the dress code has changed. We no longer have to wear
    suits and ties. But we don't copy the worlds dress code with holes in
    their pants, and showing some of their buts.

    I agree. Holey jeans are tacky, even if they contain a nice ass. Purple
    hair and tramp stamps are also yucky.


    Do they not comprehend how rude & crude it is to come to your door,
    demand immediate attention, and presume to speak for Jesus?

    But that is how Jesus and his apostles did it in the `1st century.

    We don't know that. Door to door evangelizing is risky enough now, let
    alone in the roman republic. In the stories, the people came to Jesus.

    Actually they also came to them:

    - New King James
    Acts 20:20 "and how I kept back nothing that was helpful, but
    proclaimed it to you, and taught you publicly and from house to house,


    If your house was on fire, wouldn't you want someone to come to your
    door to warn you? It is a similar thing with the house to house work
    by JW's.

    Completely different. The fire is in the eye of the beholder. It's not >real.

    --a person comes to your door saying your house is on fire.
    -JW's come to your house saying the end is coming soon.


    Would you like atheists inviting themselves to your home, telling you to >repent of your false religion and accept reality into your heart and
    brain? Would you read the complimentary copy of The Gospel of the
    Flying Spaghetti Monster?

    I would first want to see their EVIDENCE. If they couldn't produce it,
    then bye bye blackbird.

    The Bible is in harmony with TRUE science. Historical records have
    verified much of the Bible. Thus there is a lot of EVIDENCE. Not 100%
    yet, but enough to build truths on.




    Oh by the way, they also help people in distress, and in 3rd world
    countries, they teach people who can't read, how to read. So the door
    work is not just only religion.

    That's great. Atheists are also quite charitable. I've given more to
    3rd worlders than the whole USAID will give next year.

    That is good. Keep up the fine work.

    >

    Not to
    mention that it implies they don't hold their religion in high esteem.

    You can't get it any higher than the JW Bible-based religious beliefs.


    Sorry, James. If I kept my silence, the very stones of the earth would
    cry out.

    Yes, the pebbles might for you, but for us the boulders would cry out,
    because Biblically it could mean your life!

    Boulders don't believe the Bible.

    Neither do stones.


    What do they know that you don't know?

    They are just like their mindless counterpart; evolution, and know
    absolutely zero, and have the wisdom of a burned-out light bulb.

    Sincerely James
    "Can Peacekeeping Efforts Create a Peaceful World?
    Get the Answer". See jw.org (10/12/2025)
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  • From Christ Rose@usenet@christrose.news to alt.bible,alt.religion.christian on Sun Oct 12 12:17:50 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.bible

    ========================================
    Sun, 12 Oct 2025 12:35:02 -0400
    <5tcnek1bct5eb3sbt4ss84m13g4jnm8f1r@4ax.com>
    "Sincerely", "soley from the Bible" and
    "Honestly is my middle name"
    James <James> wrote:
    ========================================
    JW's don't bring a message of insults but rather one of hope and
    delight. God will soon get rid of all painful things, and even death
    itself. No one need die anymore. Surely this is better news that you
    get elsewhere.


    No, you satanically manipulated liars lead people to the eternal,
    conscious torment and damnation which you feign indignation against, by preaching a false Christ and false gospel.
    --
    Have you heard the good news Christ died for our sins (rCa), and God
    raised Him from the dead?

    That Christ died for our sins shows we're sinners who deserve the death penalty. That God raised Him from the dead shows Christ's death
    satisfied God's righteous demands against our sin (Romans 3:25; 1 John
    2:1-2). This means God can now remain just, while forgiving you of your
    sins, and saving you from eternal damnation.

    On the basis of Christ's death and resurrection for our sins, call on
    the name of the Lord to save you: "For 'everyone who calls on the name
    of the Lord will be saved'" (Romans 10:13, ESV).

    https://christrose.news/salvation

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  • From Robert@.robert@mu.way to alt.bible, alt.religion.christian on Sun Oct 12 13:04:03 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.bible

    On Oct 12, 2025, James wrote (Message-ID:<aimnekh13amnnq5gv7952ks3u9uarrvq74@4ax.com>):


    We don't know that. Door to door evangelizing is risky enough now, let alone in the roman republic. In the stories, the people came to Jesus.

    Actually they also came to them:

    - New King James
    Acts 20:20 "and how I kept back nothing that was helpful, but
    proclaimed it to you, and taught you publicly and from house to house,

    James. They were not knocking on doors of non-believers. They were going from house to house wherein the ekklesiarCOs met.

    Acts 2:46And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart,

    1 Corinthians 16:19 The churches of Asia salute you. Aquila and Priscilla salute you much in the Lord, with the church that is in their house.

    Neither Jesus not his disciples knocked on doors. They went to public places some of which were the synagogues, and the temple. Those they came in contact with on the streets, at the wells, and so on.

    So why doesnrCOt the JW do the same thing? And nothing is stopping you and other from inviting people into your homes instead of interrupting the personal lives of others.

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  • From Christ Rose@usenet@christrose.news to alt.bible,alt.religion.christian on Wed Oct 15 08:26:43 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.bible

    ========================================
    Fri, 10 Oct 2025 17:17:22 -0400
    <jvoiekl549t8b9u1rpsrrd93e4vkitno4t@4ax.com>
    "Sincerely", "soley from the Bible" and
    "Honestly is my middle name"
    James <James> wrote:
    ========================================

    Satan's greatest holiday almost upon you.


    rCLAnd no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of
    light.rCY (2 Corinthians 11:14, ESV)

    rCL...we are not ignorant of his designs.rCY (2 Corinthians 2:11,
    ESV)

    Satan doesn't go out as ghosts and ghouls. He goes out as "Jehovah's Witnesses".

    p.s. There's only one "l" in "holiday".
    --
    Have you heard the good news Christ died for our sins (rCa), and God
    raised Him from the dead?

    That Christ died for our sins shows we're sinners who deserve the death penalty. That God raised Him from the dead shows Christ's death
    satisfied God's righteous demands against our sin (Romans 3:25; 1 John
    2:1-2). This means God can now remain just, while forgiving you of your
    sins, and saving you from eternal damnation.

    On the basis of Christ's death and resurrection for our sins, call on
    the name of the Lord to save you: "For 'everyone who calls on the name
    of the Lord will be saved'" (Romans 10:13, ESV).

    https://christrose.news/salvation

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  • From James to alt.christnet.christnews,alt.bible,alt.religion.christian on Wed Oct 15 13:05:55 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.bible

    On Sun, 12 Oct 2025 12:17:50 -0500, Christ Rose
    <usenet@christrose.news> wrote:

    ========================================
    Sun, 12 Oct 2025 12:35:02 -0400
    <5tcnek1bct5eb3sbt4ss84m13g4jnm8f1r@4ax.com>
    "Sincerely", "soley from the Bible" and
    "Honestly is my middle name"
    James <James> wrote:
    ========================================
    JW's don't bring a message of insults but rather one of hope and
    delight. God will soon get rid of all painful things, and even death
    itself. No one need die anymore. Surely this is better news that you
    get elsewhere.


    No, you satanically manipulated liars lead people to the eternal,
    conscious torment and damnation which you feign indignation against, by >preaching a false Christ and false gospel.

    We teach what the Bible says. If you want to call that false, that is
    up to you.

    As for conscious torment, how can you torture DEATH and HELL? Curious
    minds want to know. Oh no, that means the Lake of Fire must be
    symbolic!

    -- King James
    Revelation 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire.
    This is the second death. So the Lake of Fire represents what?

    Sincerely James
    "Peace on EarthuHow Will It Come?
    Find Out". See jw.org (10/14/2025)

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  • From Christ Rose@usenet@christrose.news to alt.christnet.christnews,alt.bible,alt.religion.christian on Wed Oct 15 19:32:50 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.bible

    On 10/15/2025 12:05 PM, James wrote:
    On Sun, 12 Oct 2025 12:17:50 -0500, Christ Rose
    <usenet@christrose.news> wrote:

    ========================================
    Sun, 12 Oct 2025 12:35:02 -0400
    <5tcnek1bct5eb3sbt4ss84m13g4jnm8f1r@4ax.com>
    "Sincerely", "soley from the Bible" and
    "Honestly is my middle name"
    James <James> wrote:
    ========================================
    JW's don't bring a message of insults but rather one of hope and
    delight. God will soon get rid of all painful things, and even death
    itself. No one need die anymore. Surely this is better news that you
    get elsewhere.

    No, you satanically manipulated liars lead people to the eternal,
    conscious torment and damnation which you feign indignation against, by
    preaching a false Christ and false gospel.
    We teach what the Bible says. If you want to call that false, that is
    up to you.

    As for conscious torment, how can you torture DEATH and HELL? Curious
    minds want to know. Oh no, that means the Lake of Fire must be
    symbolic!


    The text doesn't say death and hell were tortured. It says they were
    cast into the Lake of Fire. You repeat the same dumb attempt to
    brainwash with a failed and refuted argument.
    --
    Have you heard the good news Christ died for our sins (rCa), and God
    raised Him from the dead?

    That Christ died for our sins shows we're sinners who deserve the death penalty. That God raised Him from the dead shows Christ's death
    satisfied God's righteous demands against our sin (Romans 3:25; 1 John
    2:1-2). This means God can now remain just, while forgiving you of your
    sins, and saving you from eternal damnation.

    On the basis of Christ's death and resurrection for our sins, call on
    the name of the Lord to save you: "For 'everyone who calls on the name
    of the Lord will be saved'" (Romans 10:13, ESV).

    https://christrose.news/salvation

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  • From James to alt.bible,alt.religion.christian on Wed Oct 15 21:03:53 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.bible

    On Sun, 12 Oct 2025 13:04:03 -0700, Robert <.robert@mu.way> wrote:

    On Oct 12, 2025, James wrote >(Message-ID:<aimnekh13amnnq5gv7952ks3u9uarrvq74@4ax.com>):


    We don't know that. Door to door evangelizing is risky enough now, let
    alone in the roman republic. In the stories, the people came to Jesus.

    Actually they also came to them:

    - New King James
    Acts 20:20 "and how I kept back nothing that was helpful, but
    proclaimed it to you, and taught you publicly and from house to house,

    James. They were not knocking on doors of non-believers. They were going from >house to house wherein the ekklesiaAs met.

    Jesus and those with him went house to house. He set the example. I
    can't believe Paul would not follow in Jesus' footsteps when going
    house to house. Notice the next verse:

    -- King James
    Acts 20:21 Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks,
    repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ.

    Thus he, like Jesus, preached to everyone, not just believers. As Paul
    said:

    "13. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be
    saved.
    14. How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed?
    and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how
    shall they hear without a preacher?
    15. And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is
    written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of
    peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!" (Rom 10:13-15; KJV)

    Yes, Paul preached to all kinds of people.


    Acts 2:46And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and >breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and >singleness of heart,

    1 Corinthians 16:19 The churches of Asia salute you. Aquila and Priscilla >salute you much in the Lord, with the church that is in their house.

    Neither Jesus not his disciples knocked on doors.

    Oh, but you are so wrong. At first Jesus was just to the Jews. Please
    read carefully these 15 verses:

    5. These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not
    into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans
    enter ye not:
    6. But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
    7. And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand.
    8. Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out
    devils: freely ye have received, freely give.
    9. Provide neither gold, nor silver, nor brass in your purses,
    10. Nor scrip for your journey, neither two coats, neither shoes,
    nor yet staves: for the workman is worthy of his meat.
    11. And into whatsoever city or town ye shall enter, inquire who in
    it is worthy; and there abide till ye go thence.
    12. And when ye come into an house, salute it.
    13. And if the house be worthy, let your peace come upon it: but if
    it be not worthy, let your peace return to you.
    14. And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when
    ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet.
    15. Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for the land
    of Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city."
    (Mt 10:5-15; KJV)

    Jesus didn't tell them to go on a street corner and preach, but to
    preach any way and also go to houses.


    They went to public places
    some of which were the synagogues, and the temple. Those they came in contact >with on the streets, at the wells, and so on.

    Yes they did go to every house to house preaching about Jesus, etc.

    -- King James
    Acts 5:42 And daily in the temple, and in every house, they ceased
    not to teach and preach Jesus Christ.


    So why doesnAt the JW do the same thing? And nothing is stopping you and >other from inviting people into your homes instead of interrupting the >personal lives of others.

    Yes, it is terrible to interrupt the personal lives of others with
    Bible knowledge. How can JW's live with themselves. So let's see:

    1. JW's go house to house just like Jesus and Paul did.
    2. JW's talk to people in grocery stores and on corners, etc, etc.
    3. JW's go to businesses and share Bible knowledge.
    4. JW's set up Bible-aid magazine tables in front of businesses.
    5. JW's have large assemblies where the public is invited.
    6. JW's have local meetings during the week and public is invited.
    7. JW's have missionaries to go where the need is greater.
    8. JW's teach people worldwide to read when they can't.
    9. JW's give free literature to those who are interested.
    10. JW's help those effected by "Acts of God". (which it is not)
    11. JW's go and preach in prisons, and baptize them when needed.
    12. JW's help those in need, or direct them to government assistance,
    etc.
    13. JW's are fulfilling Mt 24:14 and Isaiah 2:2-4 as we speak.

    Sincerely James
    "Peace on EarthuHow Will It Come?
    Find Out". See jw.org (10/14/2025)




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  • From Robert@.robert@mu.way to alt.bible, alt.religion.christian on Wed Oct 15 19:45:05 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.bible

    On Oct 15, 2025, James wrote (Message-ID:<ena0fk1amqqqsma6ahiesbuol31f7hlef5@4ax.com>):

    On Sun, 12 Oct 2025 13:04:03 -0700, Robert<.robert@mu.way> wrote:

    On Oct 12, 2025, James wrote (Message-ID:<aimnekh13amnnq5gv7952ks3u9uarrvq74@4ax.com>):


    We don't know that. Door to door evangelizing is risky enough now, let alone in the roman republic. In the stories, the people came to Jesus.

    Actually they also came to them:

    - New King James
    Acts 20:20 "and how I kept back nothing that was helpful, but
    proclaimed it to you, and taught you publicly and from house to house,

    James. They were not knocking on doors of non-believers. They were going from
    house to house wherein the ekklesiarCOs met.

    Jesus and those with him went house to house. He set the example. I
    can't believe Paul would not follow in Jesus' footsteps when going
    house to house. Notice the next verse:

    -- King James
    Acts 20:21 Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks,
    repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ.

    Thus he, like Jesus, preached to everyone, not just believers. As Paul
    said:

    "13. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be
    saved.
    14. How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed?
    and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how
    shall they hear without a preacher?
    15. And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is
    written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of
    peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!" (Rom 10:13-15; KJV)

    Yes, Paul preached to all kinds of people.

    As did Jesus, but they were not knocking on doors. They went were they were invited in regards to homes. And most of the ekklesiarCOs met in homes.



    Acts 2:46And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart,

    1 Corinthians 16:19 The churches of Asia salute you. Aquila and Priscilla salute you much in the Lord, with the church that is in their house.

    Neither Jesus not his disciples knocked on doors.

    Oh, but you are so wrong. At first Jesus was just to the Jews. Please
    read carefully these 15 verses:

    5. These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not
    into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans
    enter ye not:
    6. But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
    7. And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand.
    8. Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out
    devils: freely ye have received, freely give.
    9. Provide neither gold, nor silver, nor brass in your purses,
    10. Nor scrip for your journey, neither two coats, neither shoes,
    nor yet staves: for the workman is worthy of his meat.
    11. And into whatsoever city or town ye shall enter, inquire who in
    it is worthy; and there abide till ye go thence.
    12. And when ye come into an house, salute it.
    13. And if the house be worthy, let your peace come upon it: but if
    it be not worthy, let your peace return to you.
    14. And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when
    ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet.
    15. Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for the land
    of Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city."
    (Mt 10:5-15; KJV)

    Jesus didn't tell them to go on a street corner and preach, but to
    preach any way and also go to houses.

    Do you only go to the homes of Jews V5
    Were did they preach? V7 as they traveled.
    V10 they received from those they ministered too, as far as their needs were concerned.
    V11 find a worthy home and stay or live there, while in that town.
    V14 if you run into a home like the JW today, leave kicking the dust off your feet upon them.
    V15 the total city of antichristian JWrCOs will receive worse than those in the day of Sodom. Where fire and brimstone fell upon them,
    Nothing there about door knocking.
    While they were preaching the message of the Kingdom of Heaven they were to v8. None of which does the JW do. You see, when believers are doing the works of God as in v8 people everywhere will be inviting them to their homes to
    help out with the sick, etc.and will want to know ALL about it. So much so that the home will be crowded out and so standing room left. Which is why a couple guys opened the roof to drop their friend before Jesus so that he
    would be healed.

    This is the way believers should walk.


    They went to public places
    some of which were the synagogues, and the temple. Those they came in contact with on the streets, at the wells, and so on.

    Yes they did go to every house to house preaching about Jesus, etc.

    -- King James
    Acts 5:42 And daily in the temple, and in every house, they ceased
    not to teach and preach Jesus Christ.

    Every house they went into by invite. No door knocking needed. See your
    verses just above and my comments.



    So why doesnrCOt the JW do the same thing? And nothing is stopping you and other from inviting people into your homes instead of interrupting the personal lives of others.

    Yes, it is terrible to interrupt the personal lives of others with
    Bible knowledge. How can JW's live with themselves. So let's see:

    1. JW's go house to house just like Jesus and Paul did.
    2. JW's talk to people in grocery stores and on corners, etc, etc.
    3. JW's go to businesses and share Bible knowledge.
    4. JW's set up Bible-aid magazine tables in front of businesses.
    5. JW's have large assemblies where the public is invited.
    6. JW's have local meetings during the week and public is invited.
    7. JW's have missionaries to go where the need is greater.
    8. JW's teach people worldwide to read when they can't.
    9. JW's give free literature to those who are interested.
    10. JW's help those effected by "Acts of God". (which it is not)
    11. JW's go and preach in prisons, and baptize them when needed.
    12. JW's help those in need, or direct them to government assistance,
    etc.

    None of that happens in my city, not in L.A. nor San Diego. Plus they are too cheap to hand out their magazines or Awake the new vitality orange juice anymore. They are not seen in the city or county fairs, nor the ones commonly held on RCC parking lots, etc.

    13. JW's are fulfilling Mt 24:14 and Isaiah 2:2-4 as we speak.

    Not here, not a one is present anywhere. In fact their parking lots sit empty because they are fenced and gated. In regards to #12 you take care, sometimes of the JW only, depending on their circumstance, the rest you palm off to the government, or the local Christian missions that feed and house the lost. Salvations army does a much better job than the JW.

    Christians send missionaries every where. JWrCOs only go when they can tie it into an excuse for taking a cruise or see the sites in foreign countries.
    Like an African safari.


    Sincerely James
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