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Judges 12: Christ the Perfect Judge
https://christrose.news/2025/10/judges-12-christ-perfect-judge.html
Introduction
Judges 12 gives a sobering glimpse into what happens when pride governs judgment instead of humility and unity under God. The chapter opens with conflict between Jephthah and the men of Ephraim, who accused him of excluding them from battle (Judges 12:1rCo2). Their wounded pride led to civil war and the slaughter of forty-two thousand of their own brethren (Judges 12:4rCo6). It is a tragic scene where words become weapons,as a
simple pronunciationrCorCLShibbolethrCYrCodetermines life or death (Judges 12:6). The following verses describe three lesser-known judgesrCoIbzan,
Elon, and AbdonrCowhose reigns were marked by peace and prosperity (Judges 12:8rCo15). The contrast between strife and rest reveals a deeper truth
about the kind of Judge GodrCOs people truly need. Every earthly judge
fades, but Christ reigns forever with perfect humility, unity, and life.
This chapter exposes the failure of human judgment rooted in pride and
points us to Christ, who rules with righteousness and peace.
perishing Christ Rose wrote:
Judges 12: Christ the Perfect Judge
https://christrose.news/2025/10/judges-12-christ-perfect-judge.html
Introduction
Judges 12 gives a sobering glimpse into what happens when pride governs
judgment instead of humility and unity under God. The chapter opens with
conflict between Jephthah and the men of Ephraim, who accused him of
excluding them from battle (Judges 12:1u2). Their wounded pride led to
civil war and the slaughter of forty-two thousand of their own brethren
(Judges 12:4u6). It is a tragic scene where words become weapons,as a
1 And the men of Ephraim were called together, and went northward, and
said to Jephthah, Why have you passed over to fight against the sons of >Ammon, and you have not called on us to go with you? We will burn your
house over you with fire.
2 And Jephthah said to them, I have been a man of war, my people and I, >having great strife with the sons of Ammon. And I called you, and you did >not save me out of their hands.
3 And seeing that you did not save us, I put my life in my hand and
passed
over against the Ammonites, and Jehovah delivered them into my hand. And
why have you come up to me today to fight with me?
4 And Jephthah gathered all the men of Gilead, and fought with Ephraim.
And the men of Gilead struck Ephraim, because they said, You Gileadites
are fugitives from Ephraim, in the midst of Ephraim, in the midst of >Manasseh.
5 And Gilead captured the fords of the Jordan before Ephraim. And it >happened when the fugitives from Ephraim said, Let me pass over, then the >men of Gilead said to him, You are an Ephraimite. And he said, No.
After seeing what you did to chapter 11 I had to take a look here. And
then post the five verses here to clarify the truth of the matter.
J was threatened in V1 and lied about them not being called to fight as J >declared to them in verse 2 So in verse 3 he told them flat out that he
put his life on the line, and that Jehovah delivered them all into his >hands. Then in Verse 4 because of the Ephraimites declaring war upon them >and sought to kill him, he did what he had to do and as a result J judged >Israel for six years until he died.
Obviously Jehovah was with him, and honored him.
It is sad to see your shameful opinions on the matter. No worries, I
won't
be bothering you anymore regarding your postings on the Word of God. On
the few things I read that you posted I can see little value to them as
it
seems you do not even read what you post about.
perishing Christ Rose wrote:
Judges 12: Christ the Perfect Judge
https://christrose.news/2025/10/judges-12-christ-perfect-judge.html
Introduction
Judges 12 gives a sobering glimpse into what happens when pride governs
judgment instead of humility and unity under God. The chapter opens with
conflict between Jephthah and the men of Ephraim, who accused him of
excluding them from battle (Judges 12:1u2). Their wounded pride led to
civil war and the slaughter of forty-two thousand of their own brethren
(Judges 12:4u6). It is a tragic scene where words become weapons,as a
1 And the men of Ephraim were called together, and went northward, and
said to Jephthah, Why have you passed over to fight against the sons of >Ammon, and you have not called on us to go with you? We will burn your
house over you with fire.
2 And Jephthah said to them, I have been a man of war, my people and I, >having great strife with the sons of Ammon. And I called you, and you did >not save me out of their hands.
3 And seeing that you did not save us, I put my life in my hand and
passed
over against the Ammonites, and Jehovah delivered them into my hand. And
why have you come up to me today to fight with me?
4 And Jephthah gathered all the men of Gilead, and fought with Ephraim.
And the men of Gilead struck Ephraim, because they said, You Gileadites
are fugitives from Ephraim, in the midst of Ephraim, in the midst of >Manasseh.
5 And Gilead captured the fords of the Jordan before Ephraim. And it >happened when the fugitives from Ephraim said, Let me pass over, then the >men of Gilead said to him, You are an Ephraimite. And he said, No.
After seeing what you did to chapter 11 I had to take a look here. And
then post the five verses here to clarify the truth of the matter.
J was threatened in V1 and lied about them not being called to fight as J >declared to them in verse 2 So in verse 3 he told them flat out that he
put his life on the line, and that Jehovah delivered them all into his >hands. Then in Verse 4 because of the Ephraimites declaring war upon them >and sought to kill him, he did what he had to do and as a result J judged >Israel for six years until he died.
Obviously Jehovah was with him, and honored him.
It is sad to see your shameful opinions on the matter. No worries, I
won't
be bothering you anymore regarding your postings on the Word of God. On
the few things I read that you posted I can see little value to them as
it
seems you do not even read what you post about.
On Sat, 4 Oct 2025 20:24:53 -0500, Christ Rose wrote:
Judges 12: Christ the Perfect Judge
Introduction
Judges 12 gives a sobering glimpse into what happens when pride governs judgment instead of humility and unity under God. The chapter opens with conflict between Jephthah and the men of Ephraim, who accused him of excluding them from battle (Judges 12:1rCo2). Their wounded pride led to civil war and the slaughter of forty-two thousand of their own brethren (Judges 12:4rCo6). It is a tragic scene where words become weapons,as a
1 And the men of Ephraim were called together, and went northward, and
said to Jephthah, Why have you passed over to fight against the sons of Ammon, and you have not called on us to go with you? We will burn your
house over you with fire.
2 And Jephthah said to them, I have been a man of war, my people and I, having great strife with the sons of Ammon. And I called you, and you did
not save me out of their hands.
3 And seeing that you did not save us, I put my life in my hand and
passed
over against the Ammonites, and Jehovah delivered them into my hand. And
why have you come up to me today to fight with me?
4 And Jephthah gathered all the men of Gilead, and fought with Ephraim.
And the men of Gilead struck Ephraim, because they said, You Gileadites
are fugitives from Ephraim, in the midst of Ephraim, in the midst of Manasseh.
5 And Gilead captured the fords of the Jordan before Ephraim. And it
happened when the fugitives from Ephraim said, Let me pass over, then the
men of Gilead said to him, You are an Ephraimite. And he said, No.
After seeing what you did to chapter 11 I had to take a look here. And
then post the five verses here to clarify the truth of the matter.
J was threatened in V1 and lied about them not being called to fight as J declared to them in verse 2 So in verse 3 he told them flat out that he
put his life on the line, and that Jehovah delivered them all into his
hands. Then in Verse 4 because of the Ephraimites declaring war upon them
and sought to kill him, he did what he had to do and as a result J judged Israel for six years until he died.
Obviously Jehovah was with him, and honored him.
It is sad to see your shameful opinions on the matter. No worries, I won't
be bothering you anymore regarding your postings on the Word of God. On
the few things I read that you posted I can see little value to them as it seems you do not even read what you post about.
simple pronunciationrCorCLShibbolethrCYrCodetermines life or death (Judges 12:6). The following verses describe three lesser-known judgesrCoIbzan, Elon, and AbdonrCowhose reigns were marked by peace and prosperity (Judges 12:8rCo15). The contrast between strife and rest reveals a deeper truth about the kind of Judge GodrCOs people truly need. Every earthly judge fades, but Christ reigns forever with perfect humility, unity, and life. This chapter exposes the failure of human judgment rooted in pride and points us to Christ, who rules with righteousness and peace.
On Oct 8, 2025, KK wrote
(Message-ID: <10c527s$1eb5i$1@dont-email.me>):
On Oct 8, 2025, KK wrote (Message-ID: <10c527s$1eb5i$1@dont-email.me>):
On Sat, 4 Oct 2025 20:24:53 -0500, Christ Rose wrote:
Judges 12: Christ the Perfect Judge
Yes, Jesus Christ is the perfect judge, but what has that to do with understanding Judges 12?
Introduction
Judges 12 gives a sobering glimpse into what happens when pride
governs judgment instead of humility and unity under God. The chapter
opens with conflict between Jephthah and the men of Ephraim, who
accused him of excluding them from battle (Judges 12:1rCo2). Their
wounded pride led to civil war and the slaughter of forty-two
thousand of their own brethren (Judges 12:4rCo6). It is a tragic scene
where words become weapons,as a
Pride? Pride of what sort? It was more like Jealousy. rCLTo the victor
goes the spoilsrCY.
I never saw any or your series on the book of Judges, however, had you,
then you would have realized that the Ephraimites did the same exact
thing to Gideon. The Ephraimites were trouble makers. Words did not
become weapons, they were identifiers of a people. VrCOs 5-6
Jdg 12:5 And the Gileadites took the passages of Jordan before the Ephraimites: and it was so, that when those Ephraimites which were
escaped said, Let me go over; that the men of Gilead said unto him, Art
thou an Ephraimite? If he said, Nay;
Jdg 12:6 Then said they unto him, Say now Shibboleth: and he said
Sibboleth: for he could not frame to pronounce it right. Then they took
him, and slew him at the passages of Jordan: and there fell at that time
of the Ephraimites forty and two thousand.
What does this say? That the Gileadites knew that the Ephraimites could
not pronounce the word Shibboleth properly and that they pronounced it
as Sibboleth, and as the Gileadites had control of the river crossing
they used that word so as to judge who was an Ephraimite. Thus their
denials of being from Ephraim gave themselves away.
The above I speak to AI Rosie, I do not know if KK quoted the whole post
so I am just replying to what I see. And how this all relates
scripturally to Jesus the Anointed One being the perfect Judge as the
reason for this book to be written is beyond me.
1 And the men of Ephraim were called together, and went northward, and
said to Jephthah, Why have you passed over to fight against the sons of
Ammon, and you have not called on us to go with you? We will burn your
house over you with fire.
2 And Jephthah said to them, I have been a man of war, my people and I,
having great strife with the sons of Ammon. And I called you, and you
did not save me out of their hands.
3 And seeing that you did not save us, I put my life in my hand and
passed over against the Ammonites, and Jehovah delivered them into my
hand. And why have you come up to me today to fight with me?
4 And Jephthah gathered all the men of Gilead, and fought with Ephraim.
And the men of Gilead struck Ephraim, because they said, You Gileadites
are fugitives from Ephraim, in the midst of Ephraim, in the midst of
Manasseh.
5 And Gilead captured the fords of the Jordan before Ephraim. And it
happened when the fugitives from Ephraim said, Let me pass over, then
the men of Gilead said to him, You are an Ephraimite. And he said, No.
After seeing what you did to chapter 11 I had to take a look here. And
then post the five verses here to clarify the truth of the matter.
J was threatened in V1 and lied about them not being called to fight as
J declared to them in verse 2 So in verse 3 he told them flat out that
he put his life on the line, and that Jehovah delivered them all into
his hands. Then in Verse 4 because of the Ephraimites declaring war
upon them and sought to kill him, he did what he had to do and as a
result J judged Israel for six years until he died.
KK, I think you made a mistake here in the way you phrased this, at
least in the 1st sentence. The way you wrote it would seem like J lied
about the Ephraimites not being called to fight, when that was actually
what the men of Ephraim did. That being that they lied about themselves
being called to fight. However, the scripture you quoted bore that out
so I am assuming you just made a mistake as mentioned above.
Obviously Jehovah was with him, and honored him.
Yes, and even Hebrews 11:32 bore that out, that in spite of some issues
in their lives (of the men mentioned there) that these were all honored
as being men of great faith. Which effectively states that God uses men
even if they have warts. Just like Abraham and King David, who both
erred greatly in their lives, sinning, and making poor choices, but God
knew their hearts, their intents, and Jesus said that King David was a
man after Gods own heart. Thereby showing us all, that he looks at each
of us in the same manner, thus we need to keep our eyes focused on Him
and not our sins. A super example of that is found in James.
Jas 1:5 If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to
all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.
Jas 1:6 But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth
is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed.
Jas 1:7 For let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of
the Lord.
Jas 1:8 A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.
Jas 1:9 Let the brother of low degree rejoice in that he is exalted:
Forgive me for going off topic here, but I love this passage so much. It paints a picture of how God deals and considers us, along with it, how
to receive the gift of wisdoms which he desires to give us extremely generously.
Especially because he does not give us a boot to the derri|?re because we screwed up that last time he gifted us. But By Faith, ask without
wavering, especially without negative thinkings about ourselves that we messed it up so badly that we would entertain thoughts like we are not
worthy therefor we will not get it this time. Naw, we enter before the
throne of God wearing the robe of righteousness that he gives those who
are Born Again and have become new creatures in and through Christ
Jesus.
He also warns the waffler, V8, and uplifts the lowly ones V9 over the intelligencia of v8/
It is sad to see your shameful opinions on the matter. No worries, I
won't be bothering you anymore regarding your postings on the Word of
God. On the few things I read that you posted I can see little value to
them as it seems you do not even read what you post about.
simple pronunciationrCorCLShibbolethrCYrCodetermines life or death (Judges >> > 12:6). The following verses describe three lesser-known judgesrCoIbzan,
Elon, and AbdonrCowhose reigns were marked by peace and prosperity
(Judges 12:8rCo15). The contrast between strife and rest reveals a
deeper truth about the kind of Judge GodrCOs people truly need. Every
earthly judge fades, but Christ reigns forever with perfect humility,
unity, and life. This chapter exposes the failure of human judgment
rooted in pride and points us to Christ, who rules with righteousness
and peace.
Now back to AI Rosie. A heathen who reads this will not see Jesus Christ
here as it is an historic moment the sum total of which could be summed
up by those that know Jesus that in the OT men are anointed with the
same Holy Spirt that the true believer is filled with making them a new creature in Christ Jesus.
In those days the Holy Spirit could be taken from them. I sort of doubt
that you can understand that at least at this time.
Christ is a Title. The Anointed One. There are many false Christs,
Muhammed being one. There were and are many who feel as if they are the Anointed One for this day or age, as has happened in the past, and that
like Muhammad who thinks his excrement doesnrCOt stink, in spite of his purported many sins. I say purported because he never existed. Yet Islam
says he is coming back, and in a sense, he will be, for it is he that is
the anti-christ.
It is past time that you become what God would call you to be. Put your
name to your posts, if you are man or woman enough to do so. And stop
using the Title of Christ which you do not deserve. Not man does, save
the one that was born to that purpose, being Jesus. For your personal
well being I implore you.
You can then delete your entire website and start afresh, if pride does
not get in your way, but you will never be able to delete what you wrote
on the Usenet. However, if will soon fade away. What will stand is a commitment to the Lord Jesus Christ should you choose to do so. Then let Jesus baptize, or immerse, you with the Holy Spirit. Per the Prophecy by
John the Baptist. Become one with the family of God.
perishing Christ Rose wrote:
Judges 12: Christ the Perfect Judge
https://christrose.news/2025/10/judges-12-christ-perfect-judge.html
Introduction
Judges 12 gives a sobering glimpse into what happens when pride governs
judgment instead of humility and unity under God. The chapter opens with
conflict between Jephthah and the men of Ephraim, who accused him of
excluding them from battle (Judges 12:1u2). Their wounded pride led to
civil war and the slaughter of forty-two thousand of their own brethren
(Judges 12:4u6). It is a tragic scene where words become weapons,as a
1 And the men of Ephraim were called together, and went northward, and
said to Jephthah, Why have you passed over to fight against the sons of >Ammon, and you have not called on us to go with you? We will burn your
house over you with fire.
2 And Jephthah said to them, I have been a man of war, my people and I, >having great strife with the sons of Ammon. And I called you, and you did >not save me out of their hands.
3 And seeing that you did not save us, I put my life in my hand and
passed
over against the Ammonites, and Jehovah delivered them into my hand. And
why have you come up to me today to fight with me?
4 And Jephthah gathered all the men of Gilead, and fought with Ephraim.
And the men of Gilead struck Ephraim, because they said, You Gileadites
are fugitives from Ephraim, in the midst of Ephraim, in the midst of >Manasseh.
5 And Gilead captured the fords of the Jordan before Ephraim. And it >happened when the fugitives from Ephraim said, Let me pass over, then the >men of Gilead said to him, You are an Ephraimite. And he said, No.
After seeing what you did to chapter 11 I had to take a look here. And
then post the five verses here to clarify the truth of the matter.
J was threatened in V1 and lied about them not being called to fight as J >declared to them in verse 2 So in verse 3 he told them flat out that he
put his life on the line, and that Jehovah delivered them all into his >hands. Then in Verse 4 because of the Ephraimites declaring war upon them >and sought to kill him, he did what he had to do and as a result J judged >Israel for six years until he died.
Obviously Jehovah was with him, and honored him.
It is sad to see your shameful opinions on the matter. No worries, I
won't
be bothering you anymore regarding your postings on the Word of God. On
the few things I read that you posted I can see little value to them as
it
seems you do not even read what you post about.
On Wed, 08 Oct 2025 13:26:23 -0700, Robert wrote: