From Newsgroup: alt.bible
On Sep 28, 2025, James wrote (Message-ID:<
s5iidkh49qq976mkrqreidbuap3avvgbnk@4ax.com>):
- New King James
John 13:35 "By this all will know that you are My disciples, if you
have love for one another.''
Jhn 13:34 A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.
Jhn 13:35 By this shall all menknow that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.
That is a characteristic of true disciples of Jesus. Although they are imperfect, they know they must love each other.
1Jn 3:18 My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth.
Actions speak louder than words.
2Co 6:6 By pureness, by knowledge, by longsuffering, by kindness, by the Holy Ghost, by love unfeigned,
I highly recommend reading that chapter in full as it speaks to the fullness of the actions of those that follow Christ Jesus.
But what about war? Those who join to serve their country, have a
dilemma. They may kill or injure a member of their own religion. For
example:
Religion? You mean like HindurCOs warring against Buddhists? Or the Muslim factions that war against each other for centuries? Why is religion so important? Why is it so key to your cult?
Have not the angelic hosts fought and warred against each other?
Rev 12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
What about the wars fought in the desert within the first 40 years as nations nations came against Israel? God supported the Israelites.
What about Gods orders to prepare for war and make instruments for war?
Jol 3:9 Proclaim ye this among the Gentiles; Prepare war, wake up the mighty men, let all the men of war draw near; let them come up:
Jol 3:10 Beat your plowshares into swords, and your pruninghooks into spears: let the weak say, I am strong.
Jol 3:11 Assemble yourselves, and come, all ye heathen, and gather yourselves together round about: thither cause thy mighty ones to come down, O LORD.
Jol 3:12 Let the heathen be wakened, and come up to the valley of
Jehoshaphat: for there will I sit to judge all the heathen round about.
Jol 3:13 Put ye in the sickle, for the harvest is ripe: come, get you down; for the press is full, the fats overflow; for their wickedness is great.
Jol 3:14 Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision: for the day of the LORD is near in the valley of decision.
Jol 3:15 The sun and the moon shall be darkened, and the stars shall withdraw their shining.
Jol 3:16 The LORD also shall roar out of Zion, and utter his voice from Jerusalem; and the heavens and the earth shall shake: but the LORD will be
the hope of his people, and the strength of the children of Israel.
While these are the words of the Prophet Joel, this speaks about the time to come wherein there will be two mighty world wars, both in the battles of Armageddon. One at the beginning of the millennial Kingdom of Jesus to
deliver the Israelites, the other at the end of the millennial kingdom
wherein Satan is released from the pit of hell an gathers up many men around the world in his last ditch effort to War against Israel, and their ruler, Jesus. Both times millions of men will be killed.
While war is not what God instigates, it is not something he shyrCOs away
from either.
The wars of religious men against other men is not sanctioned by God for that is not Gods desire and it stems from an evil heart, like those religious wars of the RCC against all others, rCLFor though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh: (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds;) Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;rCY (2Co 10:3-5)
During WWII, American Catholics killed German Catholics on the battle
field, and American Baptists killed German Baptists, etc. Did they
have love for each other? No. They had HATE for one another. Enough
hatred to kill them.
When a person kills another to rescue those who seek to murder, rape, etc other people, who says they do it out of hatred and because they harbor
hatred in their hearts? Are the Police walking haters? Are the armies just chock full of haters? Prejudicial haters of others? Do executioners have to harbor a hatred of others in order to meet the job requirements of the position? Or are they the ones who dispense judgments according to law?
But if you found out that the enemy was not of your religion?
Believers follow Christ and as such are disciples of Him, not followers of some religion. For we are one body, the body of Christ Jesus.
The Bible says to even "love your neighbor". (Mark 12:31)
Thus the true religion is commanded NOT to go to war, for they are
also commanded to "love your enemy". (Mt 5:44)
And for that reason we treat prisoners of war respectfully and honorably.
When we go to war, physical war it is not with hugs and kisses, for that is not Love. That would be feigned love as we know that there are people banded together to destroy others and have shown it by their actions long before an actual war breaks out. During the prelude to a war, it is tried by honorable people to disarm the warring minds ahead of time through talks, agreements an so forth. But there are times when nations shall rise up agains nations
simply because they want to enslave others and take the good that they have for their own personal pleasures. Then also, some are just pure evil in their hearts and are known to be destroyers. Even peoples of great wealth like the Soros family who love to stir up unrest in nations around the world for personal pleasure and feeling as if they are gods who rule others with power.
So, look for a religion that meets all those criteria. And if you
found one, you have found the true "one faith" religion. (Eph 4:5)
Here is the context in which v 5 is encapsulated.
V3 speaks of rCLendeavoringrCY to keep peace. V4 speaks of rCLone bodyrCY not various religions, or considering an arm of the body a self sufficient whole entity. V5 speaks not of religion but of One God, One gift of Faith, the ability to believe and have confidence in God and His words, His gifts, His Love. And one baptism, and that baptism is not one of water, it is the one that John the Baptist foretold of in these verses.
Mat 3:11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:
Mat 3:12 Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.
Do take note, all you rCLchristiansrCY who think that water baptism is key, that he was speaking of being baptized into the Holy Spirit not water plus
the following verse speaks specifically to him as a God of Justice who will place those that are not of God into the lake of fire and brimstone at the
end of time.Those who throughout their lives chose the ways of sinful men
over God, those of evil who teach and preach a false Gospel. Teaching others with deceit, and placating many with their feigned love and their false
pride.
Now here is the scripture you referenced.
Eph 4:1-7
1 I therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you that ye walk worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called,
2 With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love;
3 Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.
4There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;
5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
7 But unto every one of us is given grace according to the measure of the
gift of Christ.
Sincerely James
James. Hear ye the words of the Lord!
--
--- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2