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The 10 commandments. Still valid?

Some say the 10 commandments are still in operation today. And that
Christians are obligated to follow them. Well? From the KJV, Ex 20
here they are:

1. Thou shalt have no other gods before me. (Vs 3)
2. Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain. (Vs 7)
3. The seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God. (Vs 10)
4 . Honour thy father and thy mother. (Vs 12)
5. Thou shalt not kill. (Vs 13)
6. Thou shalt not commit adultery. (Vs 14)
7. Thou shalt not steal. (Vs 15)
8. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour. (Vs 16)
9. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house. (Vs 17)
10 Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife. (Vs17)

Paul clearly said that the Mosaic Laws were fulfilled by Jesus' death:
Col 2:14

"having canceled the written code, with its regulations, that was
against us and that stood opposed to us; he took it away, nailing it
to the cross." (NIV)

(Galatians 3:13) Christ purchased us, releasing us from the curse of
the Law by becoming a curse instead of us, because it is written:
oAccursed is every man hung upon a stake.o (NWT)

(Hebrews 9:15) That is why he is a mediator of a new covenant, in
order that because a death has occurred for their release by ransom
from the transgressions under the former covenant, those who have been
called may receive the promise of the everlasting inheritance. (NWT)

(1 Peter 2:24) He himself bore our sins in his own body on the stake,
so that we might die to sins and live to righteousness. And oby his
wounds you were healed.o (NWT)

We can be glad the Mosaic Laws were done away with, for breaking a
commandment could cost you your life.

For example, working on the Sabbath was a death penalty.

So if they were ended, that means we can now go and steal whatever we
want, etc? (7th commandment)

No. Many of them have been copied into the NT. Like the 7th
commandment above, we still cannot steal:

--King James
Ephesians 4:28 Let him that stole steal no more: but rather let him
labour, working with his hands the thing which is good, that he may
have to give to him that needeth.

But still some may insist that the 10 commandments are separate from
the other laws in that the other laws they call ceremonial laws,
whereas the 10 commandments are ordinances.
Did Paul divide them that way? Notice Col 2:14 again:

-- King James
Colossians 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was
against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way,
nailing it to his cross;

So in this translation he just cancelled out the 10 commandments.

Sincerely James
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On Sep 27, 2025, James wrote (Message-ID:<u64gdk9tui4mmlri4nton3h242ks0kbduv@4ax.com>):

The 10 commandments. Still valid?

Some say the 10 commandments are still in operation today. And that Christians are obligated to follow them. Well? From the KJV, Ex 20
here they are:

1. Thou shalt have no other gods before me. (Vs 3)
2. Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain. (Vs 7)
3. The seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God. (Vs 10)
4 . Honour thy father and thy mother. (Vs 12)
5. Thou shalt not kill. (Vs 13)
6. Thou shalt not commit adultery. (Vs 14)
7. Thou shalt not steal. (Vs 15)
8. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour. (Vs 16)
9. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house. (Vs 17)
10 Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife. (Vs17)

Paul clearly said that the Mosaic Laws were fulfilled by Jesus' death:
Col 2:14

"having canceled the written code, with its regulations, that was
against us and that stood opposed to us; he took it away, nailing it
to the cross." (NIV)

Col 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us,
which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his
cross;

Col 2:14 He has blotted out the note of debt against us with the decrees of our sins, which was contrary to us; and He has taken it away, having nailed
it to the cross.

Those ordinances were for the Israelites. Are you a Jew? Or a gentile?

Rom 2:14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:

The Law covenant was not what was nailed to the cross, but the debts of those who broke the law. IOW, Sin

(Galatians 3:13) Christ purchased us, releasing us from the curse of
the Law by becoming a curse instead of us, because it is written:
rCLAccursed is every man hung upon a stake.rCY (NWT)

Gal 3:13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a
curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:

2Co 5:21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we
might be made the righteousness of God in him.

Christ, was nailed to the Cross. Not the Law, nor the Law Covenant. Christ
who was made sin. The totality of all the sin of mankind. Christ, the Lamb of God, sacrificed for sin.

(Hebrews 9:15) That is why he is a mediator of a new covenant, in
order that because a death has occurred for their release by ransom
from the transgressions under the former covenant, those who have been
called may receive the promise of the everlasting inheritance. (NWT)

Heb 9:15 And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.

This confirms the scripture I posted above. The truth of God.

(1 Peter 2:24) He himself bore our sins in his own body on the stake,
so that we might die to sins and live to righteousness. And rCLby his
wounds you were healed.rCY (NWT)

1Pe 2:24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.

Just below is the prophecy of this event, which disproves the wording of the NWT and supports the wording of a proper translation. Which also totally destroys the false teachings of many religions, who associate healing as purely spiritual healing.

Isa 53:5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peacewas upon him; and with his stripes
we are healed.

Isa 53:6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.

V6 also speaks of of Jesus being made sin for mankind. Do you really think that a being who was just a man could bear all the sins of mankind throughout history without disintegrating before your eyes?

We can be glad the Mosaic Laws were done away with, for breaking a commandment could cost you your life.

One sin, no matter how slight makes you a sinner. Yes, even what you think of as a little white lie. Without the redemptive work of God present in your life, one is indeed doomed to eternal torment. Which is why Christ came to save us from our sins, and once a person has accepted his work, as God, and ask for and received redemption, and walks in the spirit, the redemptive work of God is a constantly ongoing work to wash that mans sins away throughout their normal life on this planet.

For example, working on the Sabbath was a death penalty.

That is a lie. A Pharisaic lie.

Mat 12:1 At that time Jesus went on the sabbath day through the corn; and his disciples were an hungred, and began to pluck the ears of corn, and to eat.

Mat 12:2 But when the Pharisees saw it, they said unto him, Behold, thy disciples do that which is not lawful to do upon the sabbath day.

Mat 12:3 But he said unto them, Have ye not read what David did, when he was an hungred, and they that were with him;

Mat 12:4 How he entered into the house of God, and did eat the shewbread, which was not lawful for him to eat, neither for them which were with him,
but only for the priests?

Mat 12:5 Or have ye not read in the law, how that on the sabbath days the priests in the temple profane the sabbath, and are blameless?

Mat 12:6 But I say unto you, That in this place is onegreater than the
temple.

Mat 12:7 But if ye had known what thismeaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice, ye would not have condemned the guiltless.

Mat 12:8 For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day.

Lest you forget, Jesus fulfilled ALL the Law.

So if they were ended, that means we can now go and steal whatever we
want, etc? (7th commandment)

No. Many of them have been copied into the NT. Like the 7th
commandment above, we still cannot steal:

--King James
Ephesians 4:28 Let him that stole steal no more: but rather let him
labour, working with his hands the thing which is good, that he may
have to give to him that needeth.

You posted no commandment. Where is the ordinance of it? An ordinance or Law has a judgment attached to it. Where is it? What is the punishment?

Rom 7:6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we
were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.

Gal 2:21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by
the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

But still some may insist that the 10 commandments are separate from
the other laws in that the other laws they call ceremonial laws,
whereas the 10 commandments are ordinances.
Did Paul divide them that way? Notice Col 2:14 again:

2Co 3:3 Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living
God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart.

-- King James
Colossians 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was
against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way,
nailing it to his cross;

So in this translation he just cancelled out the 10 commandments.

And as to my response to these errors of the JW Org and its followers such as you, I again refer you to....

Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or
one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

Luk 16:17 And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail.

James. Jesus died and paid for your sins, should you accept the offer. To
free you from them all and give you victory through Jesus Christ the Lord.

Do not reside in the place wherein a false Gospel is practiced as well as their followers are trained to parrot the leaders of it.

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On Sat, 27 Sep 2025 17:20:21 -0700, None <none@none.non> wrote:

On Sep 27, 2025, James wrote >(Message-ID:<u64gdk9tui4mmlri4nton3h242ks0kbduv@4ax.com>):

The 10 commandments. Still valid?

Some say the 10 commandments are still in operation today. And that
Christians are obligated to follow them. Well? From the KJV, Ex 20
here they are:

1. Thou shalt have no other gods before me. (Vs 3)
2. Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain. (Vs 7)
3. The seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God. (Vs 10)
4 . Honour thy father and thy mother. (Vs 12)
5. Thou shalt not kill. (Vs 13)
6. Thou shalt not commit adultery. (Vs 14)
7. Thou shalt not steal. (Vs 15)
8. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour. (Vs 16)
9. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house. (Vs 17)
10 Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife. (Vs17)

Paul clearly said that the Mosaic Laws were fulfilled by Jesus' death:
Col 2:14

"having canceled the written code, with its regulations, that was
against us and that stood opposed to us; he took it away, nailing it
to the cross." (NIV)

Col 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, >which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his >cross;

Col 2:14 He has blotted out the note of debt against us with the decrees of >our sins, which was contrary to us; and He has taken it away, having nailed >it to the cross.

Those ordinances were for the Israelites. Are you a Jew? Or a gentile?

Those of the true religion are as Paul said, spiritual Jews.

Rom 2:14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the >things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto >themselves:

The Law covenant was not what was nailed to the cross, but the debts of those >who broke the law. IOW, Sin

It doesn't say anything about who broke the laws or not. It just says
those Mosaic Laws were ended by the death of Christ. Notice again:

Col 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, >which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his >cross;

Col 2:14 He has blotted out the note of debt against us with the decrees of >our sins, which was contrary to us; and He has taken it away, having nailed >it to the cross.

(Galatians 3:13) Christ purchased us, releasing us from the curse of
the Law by becoming a curse instead of us, because it is written:
oAccursed is every man hung upon a stake.o (NWT)

Gal 3:13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a >curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:

Tree. So much for the cross. The Greek word for "cross" is stauros,
which means "an upright stake". That is what it meant in the 1st
century.

AFTER the first century, people added "cross" to stauros.

2Co 5:21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we >might be made the righteousness of God in him.

Christ, was nailed to the Cross. Not the Law, nor the Law Covenant. Christ >who was made sin. The totality of all the sin of mankind. Christ, the Lamb of >God, sacrificed for sin.

(Hebrews 9:15) That is why he is a mediator of a new covenant, in
order that because a death has occurred for their release by ransom
from the transgressions under the former covenant, those who have been
called may receive the promise of the everlasting inheritance. (NWT)

Heb 9:15 And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by >means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the >first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal >inheritance.

This confirms the scripture I posted above. The truth of God.

Yes, Jesus died for our sins. One perfect man for a world full of all
imperfect men who all sin.

(1 Peter 2:24) He himself bore our sins in his own body on the stake,
so that we might die to sins and live to righteousness. And oby his
wounds you were healed.o (NWT)

1Pe 2:24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, >being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were >healed.

Just below is the prophecy of this event, which disproves the wording of the >NWT and supports the wording of a proper translation. Which also totally >destroys the false teachings of many religions, who associate healing as >purely spiritual healing.

Isa 53:5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our >iniquities: the chastisement of our peacewas upon him; and with his stripes >we are healed.

Isa 53:6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his >own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.

V6 also speaks of of Jesus being made sin for mankind. Do you really think >that a being who was just a man could bear all the sins of mankind throughout >history without disintegrating before your eyes?

Jesus was compared to Adam. Adam who was perfect to start out, sinned
and was thrown out of Eden to die.
Jesus was a perfect man who showed that he could follow all of God's
commands. Yes, Jesus was the "last Adam". (1 Cor 15:45)

We can be glad the Mosaic Laws were done away with, for breaking a
commandment could cost you your life.

One sin, no matter how slight makes you a sinner. Yes, even what you think of >as a little white lie. Without the redemptive work of God present in your >life, one is indeed doomed to eternal torment.

Only a savage and sadistic god tortures living beings forever, in of
all things, FIRE. That's right up Satan's alley. He LOVES to watch
people get tortured. And he gets away with lies about God torturing,
etc. How sick.

The churches latched on to Satan's lies, and even promotes it about
the God they allegedly worship. That makes them co-conspirators with
Satan.

Which is why Christ came to
save us from our sins, and once a person has accepted his work, as God,

No way hose. Paul summed it up at 1 Cor 11:3,

-- New King James
1 Corinthians 11:3 But I want you to know that the head of every man
is Christ, the head of woman is man, and the head of Christ is God.

Thus, Jesus cannot be God. That Scripture is simple and gives God's
arrangement of things.

and
ask for and received redemption, and walks in the spirit, the redemptive work >of God is a constantly ongoing work to wash that mans sins away throughout >their normal life on this planet.

Yes, all men sin.

For example, working on the Sabbath was a death penalty.

That is a lie. A Pharisaic lie.

That statement comes right out of Scripture:

- New King James
Exodus 31:15 `Work shall be done for six days, but the seventh is the
Sabbath of rest, holy to the Lord. Whoever does any work on the
Sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death.

Also, there were many Sabbaths. For example,

The 7th day, the 7th year, the 50th year (Jubilee year), Nisan 14
(Passover), Nisan 15, Nisan 21, etc.

Mat 12:1 At that time Jesus went on the sabbath day through the corn; and his >disciples were an hungred, and began to pluck the ears of corn, and to eat.

Mat 12:2 But when the Pharisees saw it, they said unto him, Behold, thy >disciples do that which is not lawful to do upon the sabbath day.

Mat 12:3 But he said unto them, Have ye not read what David did, when he was >an hungred, and they that were with him;

Mat 12:4 How he entered into the house of God, and did eat the shewbread, >which was not lawful for him to eat, neither for them which were with him, >but only for the priests?

Mat 12:5 Or have ye not read in the law, how that on the sabbath days the >priests in the temple profane the sabbath, and are blameless?

Mat 12:6 But I say unto you, That in this place is onegreater than the >temple.

Mat 12:7 But if ye had known what thismeaneth, I will have mercy, and not >sacrifice, ye would not have condemned the guiltless.

Mat 12:8 For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day.

Lest you forget, Jesus fulfilled ALL the Law.

That's what I have been saying all along.

So if they were ended, that means we can now go and steal whatever we
want, etc? (7th commandment)

No. Many of them have been copied into the NT. Like the 7th
commandment above, we still cannot steal:

--King James
Ephesians 4:28 Let him that stole steal no more: but rather let him
labour, working with his hands the thing which is good, that he may
have to give to him that needeth.

You posted no commandment. Where is the ordinance of it? An ordinance or Law >has a judgment attached to it. Where is it? What is the punishment?

It is the 7th commandment. Ex 20:15.

Rom 7:6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we >were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness >of the letter.

Gal 2:21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by >the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

But still some may insist that the 10 commandments are separate from
the other laws in that the other laws they call ceremonial laws,
whereas the 10 commandments are ordinances.
Did Paul divide them that way? Notice Col 2:14 again:

2Co 3:3 Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ >ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living >God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart.

-- King James
Colossians 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was
against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way,
nailing it to his cross;

So in this translation he just cancelled out the 10 commandments.

And as to my response to these errors of the JW Org and its followers such as >you, I again refer you to....

Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or >one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

And Jesus fulfilled it.

Luk 16:17 And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of >the law to fail.

James. Jesus died and paid for your sins, should you accept the offer. To >free you from them all and give you victory through Jesus Christ the Lord.

Do not reside in the place wherein a false Gospel is practiced as well as >their followers are trained to parrot the leaders of it.

You have been listening to bad information. Yes, the JW's parrot
things. They parrot Scriptures from the Bible. And they respect and
listen to those taking the lead, according to Scripture. You would do
well to do the same.

Have a good one.

Sincerely James
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On Sep 28, 2025, James wrote (Message-ID:<79lidkd31qkeskc1gms598de5i4lesdhpu@4ax.com>):

On Sat, 27 Sep 2025 17:20:21 -0700, None<none@none.non> wrote:

On Sep 27, 2025, James wrote (Message-ID:<u64gdk9tui4mmlri4nton3h242ks0kbduv@4ax.com>):

The 10 commandments. Still valid?

Some say the 10 commandments are still in operation today. And that Christians are obligated to follow them. Well? From the KJV, Ex 20
here they are:

1. Thou shalt have no other gods before me. (Vs 3)
2. Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain. (Vs 7)
3. The seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God. (Vs 10)
4 . Honour thy father and thy mother. (Vs 12)
5. Thou shalt not kill. (Vs 13)
6. Thou shalt not commit adultery. (Vs 14)
7. Thou shalt not steal. (Vs 15)
8. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour. (Vs 16)
9. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house. (Vs 17)
10 Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife. (Vs17)

Paul clearly said that the Mosaic Laws were fulfilled by Jesus' death: Col 2:14

"having canceled the written code, with its regulations, that was
against us and that stood opposed to us; he took it away, nailing it
to the cross." (NIV)

Col 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

Col 2:14 He has blotted out the note of debt against us with the decrees of our sins, which was contrary to us; and He has taken it away, having nailed it to the cross.

Those ordinances were for the Israelites. Are you a Jew? Or a gentile?

Those of the true religion are as Paul said, spiritual Jews.

He does not.

Rom 2:14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:

The Law covenant was not what was nailed to the cross, but the debts of those who broke the law. IOW, Sin

It doesn't say anything about who broke the laws or not. It just says
those Mosaic Laws were ended by the death of Christ. Notice again:

It speaks to all who owed a debt as a result of sinning. A you have been
shown before as well as in this reply of mine from the scriptures Jesus said that that not one thing is eliminated from the law, and anyone who teaches otherwise their future misery will be greatly increased. Why do you intentionally chose to ignore the word of God?

Col 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

Col 2:14 He has blotted out the note of debt against us with the decrees of our sins, which was contrary to us; and He has taken it away, having nailed it to the cross.

Why did you not notice or understand this scripture, is the Law Covenant a note of debt? Not at all.

(Galatians 3:13) Christ purchased us, releasing us from the curse of
the Law by becoming a curse instead of us, because it is written: rCLAccursed is every man hung upon a stake.rCY (NWT)

Gal 3:13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:

Tree. So much for the cross. The Greek word for "cross" is stauros,
which means "an upright stake". That is what it meant in the 1st
century.

Do you know and understand what a tree is? If one were to tie a yellow ribbon to a tree trunk it is hanging something on a tree. Whether it be on the
trunk, branch, stem. It all comprises a tree. Your word that you insist upon came from a tree. A root is also part of the tree. And Jesus is the root of the tree of life.

Your words are chosen for their divisiveness, and the root intention of deceitfulness.

AFTER the first century, people added "cross" to stauros.

Did Absalom son of David die from hanging on a tree? Or a stauros.

The roman often used a stauros before the 1st century to impale a man upon a pole between his legs as a pig is impaled and placed upon a spit.the roman term was crucifixion for hanging on a tree, a form of death that was slow and excruciating to give the highest form of suffering a slow death to a man. Bottom line, it was still all from a tree. A part of the tree.

When you enjoy eating a cow, do you eat it all?

2Co 5:21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

Christ, was nailed to the Cross. Not the Law, nor the Law Covenant. Christ who was made sin. The totality of all the sin of mankind. Christ, the Lamb of God, sacrificed for sin.

(Hebrews 9:15) That is why he is a mediator of a new covenant, in
order that because a death has occurred for their release by ransom
from the transgressions under the former covenant, those who have been called may receive the promise of the everlasting inheritance. (NWT)

Heb 9:15 And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by
means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the
first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.

This confirms the scripture I posted above. The truth of God.

Yes, Jesus died for our sins. One perfect man for a world full of all imperfect men who all sin.

The man Jesus that died was God. There is no getting around it, for he declared that he was the creator. Did he lie? Was he man that created the man Adam? Nope. Was Jesus born before the earth was formed?
Nope. Was Jesus the man implanted in Mary? Nope.

(1 Peter 2:24) He himself bore our sins in his own body on the stake,
so that we might die to sins and live to righteousness. And rCLby his wounds you were healed.rCY (NWT)

1Pe 2:24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were
healed.

Just below is the prophecy of this event, which disproves the wording of the
NWT and supports the wording of a proper translation. Which also totally destroys the false teachings of many religions, who associate healing as purely spiritual healing.

Isa 53:5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peacewas upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.

Isa 53:6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his
own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.

V6 also speaks of of Jesus being made sin for mankind. Do you really think that a being who was just a man could bear all the sins of mankind throughout history without disintegrating before your eyes?

Jesus was compared to Adam. Adam who was perfect to start out, sinned
and was thrown out of Eden to die.
Jesus was a perfect man who showed that he could follow all of God's commands. Yes, Jesus was the "last Adam". (1 Cor 15:45)

1Co 15:45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul;
the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.

The first Adam became a living soul. From a lump of dirt.

The second Adam and the last Adam because a quickening spirit, IOW the begetter of the spiritual man. One who will live forever, if the accept Jesus as God into their hearts. IE the Born Again ones.

We can be glad the Mosaic Laws were done away with, for breaking a commandment could cost you your life.

One sin, no matter how slight makes you a sinner. Yes, even what you think of as a little white lie. Without the redemptive work of God present in your
life, one is indeed doomed to eternal torment.

Only a savage and sadistic god tortures living beings forever, in of
all things, FIRE. That's right up Satan's alley. He LOVES to watch
people get tortured. And he gets away with lies about God torturing,
etc. How sick.

God turns man over to their god, satan. To torment. You occasionally dwell in torment in this life when you realize you made costly bad or poor choices. Extend and magnify that by a continuous eternal existence due to your poor choice as you dwell in eternal self condemnation from not only yourself but your rCyloved onesrCO who point their fingers at you for being the servant
who followed a false god and led them to that place. As well as the demons
who mock you for your poor choice. And add to you suffering.

Yet even now, look at you. LOOK at you who claims to believe ALL of the Word of God who clearly warned you what eternal death will be like and focused on those points many times in an effort to warn an caution you as he also provided a way of salvation from all of that and even sacrificed his own self in order that you could receive forgiveness, and receive the righteousness of God the Father.

Yet here you are condemning the very one you claim to follow.

The churches latched on to Satan's lies, and even promotes it about
the God they allegedly worship. That makes them co-conspirators with
Satan.

So you are now claiming that Satan wrote all those scriptures about the pits of hell, eternal death, torment and the lake of Fire?

Friend it is you an the JW as well a some other religions a few who also,
like you, claim to be Christians yet are not, it is you all that dwell in deception and not only that but are proud of it, even while know that all of scripture speaks to these things.

Which is why Christ came to
save us from our sins, and once a person has accepted his work, as God,

No way hose. Paul summed it up at 1 Cor 11:3,

-- New King James
1 Corinthians 11:3 But I want you to know that the head of every man
is Christ, the head of woman is man, and the head of Christ is God.

Thus, Jesus cannot be God. That Scripture is simple and gives God's arrangement of things.

There is nothing there that supports what you claim. And you have been shown that many times, yet you parrot it as a mantra.

and ask for and received redemption, and walks in the spirit, the redemptive
work of God is a constantly ongoing work to wash that mans sins away throughout
their normal life on this planet.

Yes, all men sin.

Not all men walk in sin.

For example, working on the Sabbath was a death penalty.

That is a lie. A Pharisaic lie.

That statement comes right out of Scripture:

- New King James
Exodus 31:15 `Work shall be done for six days, but the seventh is the
Sabbath of rest, holy to the Lord. Whoever does any work on the
Sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death.

Jesus established the full truth of that as I recently showed you wherein one of those truths was all the work on the Sabbath day that they did. How did
any priest survive with all the sabbaths.

Also, there were many Sabbaths. For example,

The 7th day, the 7th year, the 50th year (Jubilee year), Nisan 14
(Passover), Nisan 15, Nisan 21, etc.

There is more than that.

Mat 12:1 At that time Jesus went on the sabbath day through the corn; and his disciples were an hungred, and began to pluck the ears of corn, and to eat.

Mat 12:2 But when the Pharisees saw it, they said unto him, Behold, thy disciples do that which is not lawful to do upon the sabbath day.

Mat 12:3 But he said unto them, Have ye not read what David did, when he was
an hungred, and they that were with him;

Mat 12:4 How he entered into the house of God, and did eat the shewbread, which was not lawful for him to eat, neither for them which were with him, but only for the priests?

Mat 12:5 Or have ye not read in the law, how that on the sabbath days the priests in the temple profane the sabbath, and are blameless?

Mat 12:6 But I say unto you, That in this place is onegreater than the temple.

Mat 12:7 But if ye had known what thismeaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice, ye would not have condemned the guiltless.

Mat 12:8 For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day.

Lest you forget, Jesus fulfilled ALL the Law.

That's what I have been saying all along.

No you havenrCOt and you ignored all the scripture given you above, Yet even though you will claim that you believe it all.

So if they were ended, that means we can now go and steal whatever we want, etc? (7th commandment)

No. Many of them have been copied into the NT. Like the 7th
commandment above, we still cannot steal:

--King James
Ephesians 4:28 Let him that stole steal no more: but rather let him labour, working with his hands the thing which is good, that he may
have to give to him that needeth.

You posted no commandment. Where is the ordinance of it? An ordinance or Law
has a judgment attached to it. Where is it? What is the punishment?

It is the 7th commandment. Ex 20:15.

That is very disingenuous of you for you claimed that Jesus destroyed all the law and that none of it is in effect.

Rom 7:6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness
of the letter.

Gal 2:21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

Well?

But still some may insist that the 10 commandments are separate from
the other laws in that the other laws they call ceremonial laws,
whereas the 10 commandments are ordinances.
Did Paul divide them that way? Notice Col 2:14 again:

2Co 3:3 Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart.

Well?

-- King James
Colossians 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way,
nailing it to his cross;

So in this translation he just cancelled out the 10 commandments.

And as to my response to these errors of the JW Org and its followers such as you, I again refer you to....

Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

And Jesus fulfilled it.

Well? Has heaven and earth passed away?

Luk 16:17 And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail.

James. Jesus died and paid for your sins, should you accept the offer. To free you from them all and give you victory through Jesus Christ the Lord.

Do not reside in the place wherein a false Gospel is practiced as well as their followers are trained to parrot the leaders of it.

You have been listening to bad information. Yes, the JW's parrot
things. They parrot Scriptures from the Bible. And they respect and
listen to those taking the lead, according to Scripture. You would do
well to do the same.

You parrot understanding the words a well as any parrot does.

I follow the Lord, and lend credence to those that do likewise.

Have a good one.

Feigned.

Have you the guts to pray believing and as the Lord to reveal to you what
your future existence will be if you continue to do things as you are doing? Even if it be only for 5 solid minutes?

If so, I will join with you in that and also pray that the evil one be bound from any deceitful influence in this matter. In the Name of Jesus.

Sincerely James

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