• The darkness of Good Friday

    From Samuel Spade@sam@spade.invalid to alt.christnet.christianlife,alt.bible on Sat Sep 20 00:39:09 2025
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    How did the darkness come about during the last 3 hours of Jesus's
    crucifixion?

    Matthew 27
    45 Now from the sixth hour there was darkness over all the land unto the
    ninth hour.
    [note: this would be noon to 3pm.]
    46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli,
    Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou
    forsaken me?
    [...]
    50 Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the
    ghost.
    51 And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to
    the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent;
    52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept
    arose,
    53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the
    holy city, and appeared unto many.

    The usual explanation is a solar eclipse. This is not likely because a
    total solar eclipse only lasts a couple minutes. Besides, the Gospels
    are clear that Jesus was crucified either the day before Passover (John)
    or on Passover (Synoptics). Passover always happens at a full moon,
    while solar eclipses only happen at a new moon.

    Did the sun simply turn off?
    Really thick cloud of volcanic ash, where no volcano is known to be
    active at the time?
    Sandstorm or dust storm exaggerated as darkness?
    Are the Gospels wrong about Good Friday happening at Passover?
    Are the Gospels wrong about the 3 hours of darkness?
    Just a miracle of unknown mechanics?

    I'm hoping folks here can offer their takes on the 3 hours of darkness
    on Good Friday. TIA.
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  • From Christ Rose@usenet@christrose.news to alt.christnet.christianlife,alt.bible on Sat Sep 20 22:03:10 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.bible

    On 9/20/2025 2:39 AM, Samuel Spade wrote:
    How did the darkness come about during the last 3 hours of Jesus's crucifixion?

    Matthew 27
    45 Now from the sixth hour there was darkness over all the land unto the ninth hour.
    [note: this would be noon to 3pm.]
    46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli,
    Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou
    forsaken me?
    [...]
    50 Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the
    ghost.
    51 And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to
    the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent;
    52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,
    53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the
    holy city, and appeared unto many.

    The usual explanation is a solar eclipse. This is not likely because a
    total solar eclipse only lasts a couple minutes. Besides, the Gospels
    are clear that Jesus was crucified either the day before Passover (John)
    or on Passover (Synoptics). Passover always happens at a full moon,
    while solar eclipses only happen at a new moon.

    Did the sun simply turn off?
    Really thick cloud of volcanic ash, where no volcano is known to be
    active at the time?
    Sandstorm or dust storm exaggerated as darkness?
    Are the Gospels wrong about Good Friday happening at Passover?
    Are the Gospels wrong about the 3 hours of darkness?
    Just a miracle of unknown mechanics?

    I'm hoping folks here can offer their takes on the 3 hours of darkness
    on Good Friday. TIA.


    A similar incident occurred in Egypt, where God caused it to be dark for
    three days (Exodus 10:21-23), yet this did not happen in Goshen where
    God's people were (Exodus 10:23b). God later referred to these events as
    His signs and wonders (Deuteronomy 6:22). So yes, the correct answer is
    that it was "a miracle of unknown mechanics".
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  • From Samuel Spade@sam@spade.invalid to alt.christnet.christianlife,alt.bible on Sun Sep 21 20:30:50 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.bible

    Christ Rose <usenet@christrose.news> wrote:
    On 9/20/2025 2:39 AM, Samuel Spade wrote:
    How did the darkness come about during the last 3 hours of Jesus's crucifixion?

    Matthew 27
    45 Now from the sixth hour there was darkness over all the land unto the ninth hour.
    [note: this would be noon to 3pm.]
    46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
    [...]
    50 Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the
    ghost.
    51 And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent;
    52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,
    53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.

    The usual explanation is a solar eclipse. This is not likely because a total solar eclipse only lasts a couple minutes. Besides, the Gospels
    are clear that Jesus was crucified either the day before Passover (John)
    or on Passover (Synoptics). Passover always happens at a full moon,
    while solar eclipses only happen at a new moon.

    Did the sun simply turn off?
    Really thick cloud of volcanic ash, where no volcano is known to be
    active at the time?
    Sandstorm or dust storm exaggerated as darkness?
    Are the Gospels wrong about Good Friday happening at Passover?
    Are the Gospels wrong about the 3 hours of darkness?
    Just a miracle of unknown mechanics?

    I'm hoping folks here can offer their takes on the 3 hours of darkness
    on Good Friday. TIA.


    A similar incident occurred in Egypt, where God caused it to be dark for three days (Exodus 10:21-23), yet this did not happen in Goshen where
    God's people were (Exodus 10:23b). God later referred to these events as
    His signs and wonders (Deuteronomy 6:22). So yes, the correct answer is
    that it was "a miracle of unknown mechanics".

    Thanks for your answer.

    One might hope that miracles, if they exist, could eventually be
    described in an intellectually satisfying way, like the natural world
    is. If so, would they no longer be miracles? Depends, and I don't know.

    It's another case of sufficiently advanced technology being
    indistinguishable from magic.
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