• They have to be Jesus' servants

    From zebrabible@zebrabible@proton.me to alt.bible,alt.religion.christian on Fri Aug 29 13:33:50 2025
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    They have to be Jesus' servants.

    Who are these people? Their theme is the Kingdom of God. They preach
    this throughout the whole world. They don't charge anything for it,
    and spend their own money to do it. Who are these people?

    -- New King James
    Matthew 24:14 "And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all
    the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.
    Notice not everyone on the planet will hear the Kingdom Message. But
    all the nations must see that this is going on. Just how long they
    witness it, the Bible doesn't say. But afterward, the END must take
    place.

    Jesus said the Kingdom message would be preached. Then whoever does
    the preaching MUST BE sent from Jesus. Right? So who are they? The
    Bible doesn't say.

    So we need to look for a group of people who live world-wide. Who
    don't just preach general Bible teachings, but they have a THEME to
    their preaching: The KINGDOM of God. They also obey all of Jesus' and
    God's words, and say that they are CHRISTIANS.

    Baptists, Catholics, Mormons, Methodists, Adventists, etc, may qualify
    on some of those elements, but not all. And none have as their main
    preaching theme God's Kingdom. And most are mainly quiet in nations
    where they are banned. Not so with Jesus' servants.

    Jehovah's Witnesses do fulfill ALL the elements. They all live
    WORLD-WIDE. Primary theme is God's KINGDOM. They not only preach
    directly about it, but stress it throughout their literature.

    For example, The Bible-aid magazine, the Watchtower, is left at
    multitudes of doors all over the world. On all its magazine covers it
    says, "ANNOUNCING JEHOVAH'S KINGDOM". That is the greatest news a
    person can receive.

    According to sources, there are 195 nations in the world, plus lands
    not designated as such. Jehovah's Witnesses worship and preach in 240
    lands. The world is basically covered. Thus the end should be close.

    Enjoy your day,

    Sincerely James
    "Will War Ever End?
    Find Out"
    See jw.org 8/29/2025)


    So now you know who is fulfilling Mt 24:14 in the last days.
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  • From None@none@none.non to alt.bible, alt.religion.christian on Fri Aug 29 18:41:01 2025
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    On Aug 29, 2025, zebrabible@proton.me wrote (Message-ID:<3mh3bkdgoadkg7kash3gdotquiv9il5lah@4ax.com>):

    They have to be Jesus' servants.

    Who are these people?

    It is for sure not the JW's
    Their theme is the Kingdom of God. They preach
    this throughout the whole world. They don't charge anything for it,
    and spend their own money to do it. Who are these people?

    The JWrCOs are rCLJehovah WitnessesrCY Who they call God and none other.
    To them Jesus in not God by rCLa godrCY, like Baal, Buddha, or over 1,000 + gods.
    They consider Jesus just a man. In fact they denied his resurrection from the dead. James taught that for most of his life in the JW cult.

    In fact, as much as James uses the book of Matthew to bolster his half
    truths, the phrase of the Kingdom of God does not appear in the book of Matthew.

    Later in this current post of His he states that they follow Jesus, not Jehovah, and if Jesus is the King of the Kingdom of God that presents quite the dilemma to his false teachings.

    -- New King James
    Matthew 24:14 "And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all
    the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.
    Notice not everyone on the planet will hear the Kingdom Message. But
    all the nations must see that this is going on. Just how long they
    witness it, the Bible doesn't say. But afterward, the END must take
    place.

    He has never spoken, James that is, of just what is the Kingdom of Heaven or the Kingdom of God is.
    Why the confusion? On top of all that he teaches that out of all the billions of people that lived only 144K people willl enter it, and they are all Jews. 12K from 12 tribes.

    If that teaching were to be the final word, then why should it be taught around the world? SO that they can all see themselves as helpless losers, and that God Cares not of any of them? WhatrCOs the point in that?

    Jesus never taught such a losing proposition, and He taught the Good News of the Kingdom of Heaven.
    So where then is any Good News from the JW cult? Hmmmm? Spend you money to teach others what a loser they will forever be?

    If anyone dare oppose the JW cult from within, they are to expel them out of their church, even out of their family to spare them not, and isolate them from their paternal family.


    Jesus said the Kingdom message would be preached. Then whoever does
    the preaching MUST BE sent from Jesus. Right? So who are they? The
    Bible doesn't say.

    Oh but it does, you are just blinded to it all, even though many have shown you from scripture who they are.

    So we need to look for a group of people who live world-wide. Who
    don't just preach general Bible teachings, but they have a THEME to
    their preaching: The KINGDOM of God. They also obey all of Jesus' and
    God's words, and say that they are CHRISTIANS.

    Many call themselves rCLchristianrCY cause they think it is the right thing
    to be. And 50% or more of them will end up in hell. Why?
    See Romans 8:8-11



    Baptists, Catholics, Mormons, Methodists, Adventists, etc, may qualify
    on some of those elements, but not all. And none have as their main
    preaching theme God's Kingdom. And most are mainly quiet in nations
    where they are banned. Not so with Jesus' servants.

    Servants of rCLa godrCY? Someone you downplay as just a man, a man who is not both divine and a deity? Your words, not mine. You even deny what is contrary to scripture that this earth will cease to be, as well as the heavens surrounding it. That when you die that there will be no trace of you
    anywhere. Not in this earth, nor the heavens, and not even in memories of anyone, which would include God. That your death will save you from your sins and that Jesus was not necessary for that.


    Jehovah's Witnesses do fulfill ALL the elements. They all live
    WORLD-WIDE. Primary theme is God's KINGDOM. They not only preach
    directly about it, but stress it throughout their literature.

    Yet you never once mentioned what it is on the Usenet. And everyone knows
    that what you believe is truth today will not be considered truth tomorrow
    and that some new truth will be a reality. Also that whatever a person believes that it is their truth. By extension that thought would include the mind of Satan, so you cannot deny him his truth. Absurdity? Most certainly.


    For example, The Bible-aid magazine, the Watchtower, is left at
    multitudes of doors all over the world. On all its magazine covers it
    says, "ANNOUNCING JEHOVAH'S KINGDOM". That is the greatest news a
    person can receive.

    The only aid of the Word of God, aka the Holy Bible, is the Holy Spirit. And the watchtower has spelled out a lot of lies during their time. Like four Apostles returning to earth several decades ago. BTW. What is happening to
    the billions of dollars the investment group for the JW control? Why are they paid, but not you?


    According to sources, there are 195 nations in the world, plus lands
    not designated as such. Jehovah's Witnesses worship and preach in 240
    lands. The world is basically covered. Thus the end should be close.

    Notice, no sources mentioned. Who do the JWrCOs worship? Here from your proclamations you appear to worship the JW org. Not God. SPS. Even Jesus
    would never do that. Jesus said that to God the Father be all Glory.

    Sincerely James

    So now you know who is fulfilling Mt 24:14 in the last days.

    It certainly is NOT your cult. For all the reasons specified above.

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  • From Christ Rose@usenet@christrose.news to alt.bible,alt.religion.christian on Sat Aug 30 07:38:57 2025
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    Claiming to be the only ones fulfilling Matthew 24:14 does not make it
    so. The Lord Jesus Christ did not leave it vague. He Himself sent His
    apostles to rCLgo therefore and make disciples of all nationsrCa teaching
    them to observe all that I have commanded yourCY (Matthew 28:19rCo20, ESV).

    The ones who preach the gospel of the kingdom are the apostles of Jesus
    and the church that carries on their witness. Paul explained this plainly:

    rCLHow then will they call on him in whom they have not believed? And how
    are they to believe in him of whom they have never heard? And how are
    they to hear without someone preaching? And how are they to preach
    unless they are sent? As it is written, rCyHow beautiful are the feet of
    those who preach the good news!rCOrCY (Romans 10:14rCo15, ESV)

    The true messengers are those who preach the gospel Paul definedrCothe
    death of Christ for our sins, His burial, and His resurrection on the
    third day (1 Corinthians 15:1rCo4). This is the rCLgospel of the kingdom,rCY because the kingdom cannot come apart from the King who died and rose again.

    JehovahrCOs Witnesses do not preach that gospel. They deny the central
    truth that Jesus is God the Son and that He rose bodily from the dead to
    give eternal life. Instead, they substitute the message of their
    organization. No matter how wide their distribution, they cannot fulfill Matthew 24:14 because they do not proclaim the message Christ gave His apostles to preach. Paul warned that if anyone preaches a different
    gospel, rCLlet him be accursedrCY (Galatians 1:8rCo9).

    So who are the servants Jesus uses? They are not identified by belonging
    to a modern organization but by their faithfulness to His word. All over
    the world, true ChristiansrCowhether in houses, villages, cities, or
    hidden gatheringsrCoproclaim the message of Christ crucified and risen.
    This gospel is being heard in every tongue and nation, through Scripture translations, preaching, and the testimony of ChristrCOs people. That is
    the fulfillment Jesus spoke of, and when it is complete, then the end
    will come.

    --

    Have you heard the good news Christ died for our sins (rCa), and God
    raised Him from the dead?

    That Christ died for our sins shows we're sinners who deserve the death penalty. That God raised Him from the dead shows Christ's death
    satisfied God's righteous demands against our sin (Romans 3:25; 1 John
    2:1-2). This means God can now remain just, while forgiving you of your
    sins, and saving you from eternal damnation.

    On the basis of Christ's death and resurrection for our sins, call on
    the name of the Lord to save you: "For 'everyone who calls on the name
    of the Lord will be saved'" (Romans 10:13, ESV).

    https://christrose.news/salvation

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  • From zebrabible@zebrabible@proton.me to alt.bible,alt.religion.christian on Sat Aug 30 12:00:43 2025
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    On Fri, 29 Aug 2025 18:41:01 -0700, None <none@none.non> wrote:

    On Aug 29, 2025, zebrabible@proton.me wrote >(Message-ID:<3mh3bkdgoadkg7kash3gdotquiv9il5lah@4ax.com>):

    They have to be Jesus' servants.

    Who are these people?

    It is for sure not the JW's

    You have a right to think that. But evidence is the cat's meow.

    Their theme is the Kingdom of God. They preach
    this throughout the whole world. They don't charge anything for it,
    and spend their own money to do it. Who are these people?

    The JWAs are oJehovah Witnesseso Who they call God and none other.
    To them Jesus in not God by oa godo, like Baal, Buddha, or over 1,000 + >gods.

    You degrade Jesus. Jesus is NOTHING like "Baal, Buddha, or over 1,000
    + gods." Jesus is unique. He is one of a kind. Did Bale heal the sick?
    Did Buddha? Did Bale raise the dead? Did Buddha? You need to rethink
    your statement.

    "
    They consider Jesus just a man. In fact they denied his resurrection from the >dead. James taught that for most of his life in the JW cult.

    Lying is not what true Christians do.

    You said "Jesus just a man". Can a man heal any type of illness? Can a
    man raise the dead? Can a man calm restless seas?

    Like I said above, Jesus is unique. AS JESUS HIMSELF DESCRIBED
    HIMSELF, "I am God's Son". Do you believe Jesus or the churches?


    In fact, as much as James uses the book of Matthew to bolster his half >truths, the phrase of the Kingdom of God does not appear in the book of >Matthew.

    What is this; birdseed?

    -- American Standard
    Matthew 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in the
    whole world for a testimony unto all the nations; and then shall the
    end come.

    But Matthew DOES say that phrase:

    Mt 12:28= "kingdom of God". (KJV)
    Mt 19:24= "kingdom of God". (KJV)
    Mt 21:31= "kingdom of God". (KJV)
    Mt 21:43= "kingdom of God". (KJV)

    It is also found in Mark, Luke, and John, and others.


    Later in this current post of His he states that they follow Jesus, not >Jehovah,

    Negatrons. We follow primarily Jehovah, but also His Son Jesus.

    and if Jesus is the King of the Kingdom of God that presents quite
    the dilemma to his false teachings.

    Not in the least.


    -- New King James
    Matthew 24:14 "And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all
    the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.
    Notice not everyone on the planet will hear the Kingdom Message. But
    all the nations must see that this is going on. Just how long they
    witness it, the Bible doesn't say. But afterward, the END must take
    place.

    He has never spoken, James that is, of just what is the Kingdom of Heaven or >the Kingdom of God is.

    You have not read all my postings. I described it many times. But
    thanks. I will discuss it again in my next posting.

    Why the confusion? On top of all that he teaches that out of all the billions >of people that lived only 144K people willl enter it, and they are all Jews. >12K from 12 tribes.

    It's all symbolic. Paul said a person can be a Jew on the inside.
    Also, Revelation is full of symbolism. Carefully look at the "12
    tribes". They do not all match the original.
    Jesus called that group the "little flock". (Luke 12:32)
    144,000 compared to billions. Get it? LITTLE FLOCK.


    If that teaching were to be the final word, then why should it be taught >around the world? SO that they can all see themselves as helpless losers, and >that God Cares not of any of them? WhatAs the point in that?

    You are riding a different train than the Bible's. The 144,000 go to
    Heaven to RULE over those on earth during the 1000 year reign of
    Jesus. They will be priests and kings.

    The rest of the people will be these:

    -- King James
    Matthew 5:5 Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.

    Those who survive the end, along with those resurrected, will live on
    this earth. Over time, many will make it into a paradise. (Luke 23:43)


    Jesus never taught such a losing proposition, and He taught the Good News of >the Kingdom of Heaven.
    So where then is any Good News from the JW cult?

    The Good news is here:

    (Matthew 9:35) And Jesus set out on a tour of all the cities and
    villages, teaching in their synagogues and preaching the good news of
    the Kingdom and curing every sort of disease and every sort of
    infirmity.(NWT)

    (Mark 13:10) Also, in all the nations, the good news has to be
    preached first. (NWT)

    (Revelation 14:6) And I saw another angel flying in midheaven, and he
    had everlasting good news to declare to those who dwell on the earth,
    to every nation and tribe and tongue and people. (NWT)

    (Romans 10:18) But I ask, They did not fail to hear, did they? Why, in
    fact, ointo all the earth their sound went out, and to the ends of the inhabited earth their message.o (NWT)

    (Matthew 24:14) And this good news of the Kingdom will be preached in
    all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations, and then the
    end will come. (NWT)

    Hmmmm? Spend you money to
    teach others what a loser they will forever be?

    If anyone dare oppose the JW cult from within,

    You mean like stealing from people, or commiting adultery, or
    torturing someone (like your sadistic god does), or murdering, etc.
    The APOSTLE PAUL wrote under inspiration to REMOVE the wicked one from
    you. JW's just follow the Bible. Nothing else. No Creeds or church
    false teachings etc:

    -- Revised Standard
    1 Corinthians 5:13 God judges those outside. "Drive out the wicked
    person from among you."

    Yes REMOVE the wicked man so he don't contaminate anyone else. You
    would do good to follow the Bible here instead of keeping the
    unrepentant wicked person around.

    they are to expel them out of
    their church, even out of their family to spare them not, and isolate them >from their paternal family.

    JW's follow the Bible. Here it is again:

    -- Revised Standard
    1 Corinthians 5:13 God judges those outside. "Drive out the wicked
    person from among you."




    Jesus said the Kingdom message would be preached. Then whoever does
    the preaching MUST BE sent from Jesus. Right? So who are they? The
    Bible doesn't say.

    Oh but it does, you are just blinded to it all, even though many have shown >you from scripture who they are.

    So who do you say they are TODAY preaching the Kingdom message?


    So we need to look for a group of people who live world-wide. Who
    don't just preach general Bible teachings, but they have a THEME to
    their preaching: The KINGDOM of God. They also obey all of Jesus' and
    God's words, and say that they are CHRISTIANS.

    Many call themselves ochristiano cause they think it is the right thing
    to be. And 50% or more of them will end up in hell. Why?
    See Romans 8:8-11

    "8. So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
    9. But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the
    Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of
    Christ, he is none of his.
    10. And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but
    the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
    11. But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead
    dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also
    quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you." (KJV)

    Yes, JW's are "in the Spirit". One reason is because they follow ALL
    the Bible, not just the parts they are comfortable with.




    Baptists, Catholics, Mormons, Methodists, Adventists, etc, may qualify
    on some of those elements, but not all. And none have as their main
    preaching theme God's Kingdom. And most are mainly quiet in nations
    where they are banned. Not so with Jesus' servants.

    Servants of oa godo? Someone you downplay as just a man, a man who is not >both divine and a deity?

    JW's NEVER downplay Jesus. Next to God, he is the highest "deity". Do
    you have an answer for this one? Jesus and God are both in Heaven.
    Paul then says,

    -- King James
    1 Corinthians 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every
    man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of
    Christ is God.

    Rather than fight the Bible Scriptures I show you, try to embrase
    them. They are God's word. (2 Tim 3:16) God wants you to live forever,
    as well as all of us.

    Your words, not mine. You even deny what is contrary
    to scripture that this earth will cease to be, as well as the heavens >surrounding it. That when you die that there will be no trace of you >anywhere. Not in this earth, nor the heavens, and not even in memories of >anyone, which would include God. That your death will save you from your sins >and that Jesus was not necessary for that.

    Peter's references to "earth" means 'people'. And the "heavens" are
    the high rulers now on the earth. They will all be removed:

    -- King James
    Daniel 2:44 And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven
    set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom
    shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and
    consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.

    IN THE BIBLE, Paul said this:

    -- New King James
    Romans 6:7 For he who has died has been freed from sin.

    If you don't believe it, take it up with the apostle Paul.
    Jesus ransom is necessary. Notice:

    -- New King James
    John 14:6 Jesus said to him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life.
    No one comes to the Father except through Me.



    Jehovah's Witnesses do fulfill ALL the elements. They all live
    WORLD-WIDE. Primary theme is God's KINGDOM. They not only preach
    directly about it, but stress it throughout their literature.

    Yet you never once mentioned what it is on the Usenet. And everyone knows >that what you believe is truth today will not be considered truth tomorrow

    Pardon the harsh word, but NONSENSE.

    and that some new truth will be a reality. Also that whatever a person >believes that it is their truth.

    There is only one truth; the Holy Bible:

    - King James
    John 17:17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.



    By extension that thought would include the
    mind of Satan, so you cannot deny him his truth. Absurdity? Most certainly.

    You have to KNOW the mind of Satan, in order to accuse others of
    having it.



    For example, The Bible-aid magazine, the Watchtower, is left at
    multitudes of doors all over the world. On all its magazine covers it
    says, "ANNOUNCING JEHOVAH'S KINGDOM". That is the greatest news a
    person can receive.

    The only aid of the Word of God, aka the Holy Bible, is the Holy Spirit. And >the watchtower has spelled out a lot of lies during their time. Like four >Apostles returning to earth several decades ago. BTW. What is happening to >the billions of dollars the investment group for the JW control? Why are they >paid, but not you?

    The true religion (containing JUST ones) progresses a little at a
    time. This is brought out at:

    -- New King James
    Proverbs 4:18 But the path of the just is like the shining sun, that
    shines ever brighter unto the perfect day.



    According to sources, there are 195 nations in the world, plus lands
    not designated as such. Jehovah's Witnesses worship and preach in 240
    lands. The world is basically covered. Thus the end should be close.

    Notice, no sources mentioned.

    If you wish:

    "There are 195 recognised countries in the world, according to the
    United Nations."
    (sciencefocus.com)


    Who do the JWAs worship? Here from your
    proclamations you appear to worship the JW org. Not God.

    Let me repeat my above statement: NONSENSE.


    SPS. Even Jesus
    would never do that. Jesus said that to God the Father be all Glory.

    Jesus has a God. Jesus' God is also our God.

    -- King James
    John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet
    ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I
    ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.


    Sincerely James

    So now you know who is fulfilling Mt 24:14 in the last days.

    It certainly is NOT your cult. For all the reasons specified above.

    Let the reader decide for himself.

    Sincerely James
    "Will War Ever End?
    Find Out"
    See jw.org (8/30/2025)
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  • From zebrabible@zebrabible@proton.me to alt.christnet.christnews,alt.bible,alt.religion.christian on Sat Aug 30 16:17:47 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.bible

    On Sat, 30 Aug 2025 07:38:57 -0500, Christ Rose
    <usenet@christrose.news> wrote:

    Claiming to be the only ones fulfilling Matthew 24:14 does not make it
    so. The Lord Jesus Christ did not leave it vague. He Himself sent His >apostles to ogo therefore and make disciples of all nationsa teaching
    them to observe all that I have commanded youo (Matthew 28:19u20, ESV).

    Claiming that "Claiming to be the only ones fulfilling Matthew 24:14
    does not make it so", does not make it so either.


    The ones who preach the gospel of the kingdom are the apostles of Jesus
    and the church that carries on their witness. Paul explained this plainly:

    oHow then will they call on him in whom they have not believed? And how
    are they to believe in him of whom they have never heard? And how are
    they to hear without someone preaching? And how are they to preach
    unless they are sent? As it is written, aHow beautiful are the feet of
    those who preach the good news!Ao (Romans 10:14u15, ESV)

    JW's to the tee, from house to house.


    The true messengers are those who preach the gospel Paul defineduthe
    death of Christ for our sins,

    JW's teach that:

    "10 God has made possible the removal of the sin and death we
    inherited from Adam. (Rom. 5:12) Indeed, oGod recommends his own love
    to us in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.o (Rom.
    5:8) Undoubtedly, our heart overflows with love for Jehovah because he
    has made it possible for us to receive forgiveness of our sins if we
    are repentant and exercise faith in JesusA ransom sacrifice.uJohn
    3:16."
    (2014 Watchtower, 6/15)

    His burial, and His resurrection on the
    third day (1 Corinthians 15:1u4)

    JW's teach that:

    ", the apostle Paul wrote to the Corinthians: oAmong the first things
    I handed on to you was what I also received, that Christ died for our
    sins according to the Scriptures; and that he was buried, yes, that he
    was raised up on the third day according to the Scriptures; and that
    he appeared to Ce?phas, and then to the Twelve. After that he appeared
    to more than 500 brothers at one time, most of whom are still with us,
    though some have fallen asleep in death. After that he appeared to
    James, then to all the apostles. But last of all he appeared also to
    me as if to one born prematurely.ou1aCor. 15:3-8"
    (2014 Watchtower,11/15)

    This is the ogospel of the kingdom,o
    because the kingdom cannot come apart from the King who died and rose again.

    It certainly hasn't.


    JehovahAs Witnesses do not preach that gospel. They deny the central
    truth that Jesus is God the Son

    Wrong again. Then how do you explain this? Jesus and God were in
    Heaven when Paul wrote:

    "But I want you to understand that the head of every man is Christ,
    the head of a wife is her husband, and the head of Christ is God."
    (ESV)


    and that He rose bodily from the dead to
    give eternal life.

    The Bible says he was resurrected as a spirit body:

    "For Christ also suffered once for sins, the righteous for the
    unrighteous, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the
    flesh but made alive in the spirit,"

    Then how could people see Jesus since a spirit person is invisible to
    human eyes? Just like angels did in the past, they materialized a
    human body to converse with humans,

    Jesus did the same thing. But he couldn't materialize the same body he
    had before, because he gave that body and life as the ransom. So he materialized a different body. FOR PROOF:

    He first visited Mary Magdalene. When she saw Jesus she thought he was
    the gardener. And talked directly to him:

    - New King James
    John 20:15 Jesus said to her, "Woman, why are you weeping? Whom are
    you seeking?'' She, supposing Him to be the gardener, said to Him,
    "Sir, if You have carried Him away, tell me where You have laid Him,
    and I will take Him away.''

    Thus Jesus face was different, and his voice was different. And she
    couldn't recognize him at that moment.

    Instead, they substitute the message of their
    organization.

    Wrong again. "Read God's word the Bible daily" was a sign they had
    outside their building. And another message is to preach the word,
    which includes the kingdom.

    No matter how wide their distribution, they cannot fulfill
    Matthew 24:14 because they do not proclaim the message Christ gave His >apostles to preach. Paul warned that if anyone preaches a different
    gospel, olet him be accursedo (Galatians 1:8u9).

    And that is true. We preach the same message Jesus and his apostles
    preached in the first century; God's Kingdom.
    (see below)


    So who are the servants Jesus uses? They are not identified by belonging
    to a modern organization but by their faithfulness to His word. All over
    the world, true Christiansuwhether in houses, villages, cities, or
    hidden gatheringsuproclaim the message of Christ crucified and risen.
    This gospel is being heard in every tongue and nation, through Scripture >translations, preaching, and the testimony of ChristAs people. That is
    the fulfillment Jesus spoke of, and when it is complete, then the end
    will come.

    Since you didn't mention it, they are not preaching the KINGDOM
    message which you MUST hear in the last days. (Mt 24:14) If JW's are
    not witnessing to the nations God's Kingdom, who else is preaching the
    KINGDOM message??

    And who is delivering it house to house like they did in the first
    century? It takes a lot of organization to do that effectively:

    "And every day, in the temple and from house to house, they did not
    cease teaching and preaching that the Christ is Jesus." (Acts 5:42;
    ESV)

    You are so lost in the churche's dogma, you need to climb out. I did
    once, and you can do it too.

    Sincerely James
    "Will War Ever End?
    Find Out"
    See jw.org (8/30/2025)
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  • From Robert@.robert@mu.way to alt.christnet.christnews, alt.bible, alt.religion.christian on Sat Aug 30 16:06:47 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.bible

    On Aug 30, 2025, zebrabible@proton.me wrote (Message-ID:<aoi6bk1ak70rara3jp4glf8m1jja03q64c@4ax.com>):

    On Sat, 30 Aug 2025 07:38:57 -0500, Christ Rose
    <usenet@christrose.news> wrote:

    Claiming to be the only ones fulfilling Matthew 24:14 does not make it
    so. The Lord Jesus Christ did not leave it vague. He Himself sent His apostles to rCLgo therefore and make disciples of all nationsrCa teaching them to observe all that I have commanded yourCY (Matthew 28:19rCo20, ESV).

    Claiming that "Claiming to be the only ones fulfilling Matthew 24:14
    does not make it so", does not make it so either.

    Somehow I donrCOt think you intended to agree with him.



    The ones who preach the gospel of the kingdom are the apostles of Jesus
    and the church that carries on their witness. Paul explained this plainly:

    That sentence is not true the way you phrased it. Even the verse you quoted does not bear that out.
    Here I am commenting on the AI person who rCLpreachesrCY. As it is for sure they are not an apostle of God.



    rCLHow then will they call on him in whom they have not believed? And how are they to believe in him of whom they have never heard? And how are
    they to hear without someone preaching? And how are they to preach
    unless they are sent? As it is written, rCyHow beautiful are the feet of those who preach the good news!rCOrCY (Romans 10:14rCo15, ESV)

    JW's to the tee, from house to house.

    Not to my house.



    The true messengers are those who preach the gospel Paul definedrCothe death of Christ for our sins,

    That is only a part of the Gospel of the Kingdom. And Paul via the spirit of God spoke of the full Gospel message. One that was taught by Christ (the real one, not that one who took a vanity name) and much of it you deny and propagate that false narrative to others. The death of Christ was for all
    men. So why donrCOt all men benefit from it?rCLWho his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.rCY (1Pe 2:24)

    JW's teach that:

    "10 God has made possible the removal of the sin and death we
    inherited from Adam. (Rom. 5:12) Indeed, rCLGod recommends his own love
    to us in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.rCY (Rom.
    5:8) Undoubtedly, our heart overflows with love for Jehovah because he
    has made it possible for us to receive forgiveness of our sins if we
    are repentant and exercise faith in JesusrCO ransom sacrifice.rCoJohn
    3:16."
    (2014 Watchtower, 6/15)

    Notice here, Not one sense of gratitude to Jesus for the work he did. It also does not say if your are repentant but if a person repents, and continues to walk in that path. Exercise faith in the ransom sacrifice, but not in Jesus?

    rCLFor God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.rCY (Jhn 3:16-18)

    Believe in what?



    His burial, and His resurrection on the third day (1 Corinthians 15:1rCo4)

    JW's teach that:

    ", the apostle Paul wrote to the Corinthians: rCLAmong the first things
    I handed on to you was what I also received, that Christ died for our
    sins according to the Scriptures; and that he was buried, yes, that he
    was raised up on the third day according to the Scriptures; and that
    he appeared to Ce?phas, and then to the Twelve. After that he appeared
    to more than 500 brothers at one time, most of whom are still with us,
    though some have fallen asleep in death. After that he appeared to
    James, then to all the apostles. But last of all he appeared also to
    me as if to one born prematurely.rCYrCo1Cor. 15:3-8"
    (2014 Watchtower,11/15)

    rCLFor I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: And that he was seen of Cephas, then of the twelve: After that, he was seen of above five hundred brethren at once; of whom the greater part remain unto this present, but some are fallen asleep. After that, he was seen of James; then of all the apostles. And last of all he was seen of me also, as of one born out of due time.rCY (1Co 15:3-8)

    Notice that the scriptures do not speak of falling asleep in death. For those people who believe in Christ and walk according to His ways shall never die.
    A persons body is not the person, it is a temple of God for those that
    believe upon Jesus. A Tabernacle, as in a tent, that is known to wear out and in need of a replacement in which to dwell. The person themselves is Gone. Passed in whole to before the throne of God. Those who die sinners, are the dead ones. Dead to God. Not only in this life but in the next. Yet they exist with Lucifer as their King.



    This is the rCLgospel of the kingdom,rCY
    because the kingdom cannot come apart from the King who died and rose again.

    It certainly hasn't.

    Do either of you know what kingdom it speaks of?



    JehovahrCOs Witnesses do not preach that gospel. They deny the central truth that Jesus is God the Son

    Wrong again. Then how do you explain this? Jesus and God were in
    Heaven when Paul wrote:

    "But I want you to understand that the head of every man is Christ,
    the head of a wife is her husband, and the head of Christ is God."
    (ESV)

    This is not speaking of every man or every marriage. For instance some wives are believers, but not their Husband. And for every unregenerated marriage
    God does not rule or be the head of it, for he was never invited to be. And
    if the spirit of God dwells not in you, then you are not part of Christ or
    His Kingdom.


    and that He rose bodily from the dead to give eternal life.

    The Bible says he was resurrected as a spirit body:

    It does not. And you know that statement to be a full out lie.


    "For Christ also suffered once for sins, the righteous for the
    unrighteous, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the
    flesh but made alive in the spirit,"

    That rCLverserCY has not one thing to say that supports your cult groups distortion.

    rCLFor Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:rCY (1Pe 3:18)

    IOW, the fleshly killed him, the Spirit raised him. Just as he was anointed
    by the Spirit when his ministry on earth began.



    Then how could people see Jesus since a spirit person is invisible to
    human eyes? Just like angels did in the past, they materialized a
    human body to converse with humans,

    Jesus did the same thing. But he couldn't materialize the same body he
    had before, because he gave that body and life as the ransom. So he materialized a different body. FOR PROOF:

    He first visited Mary Magdalene. When she saw Jesus she thought he was
    the gardener. And talked directly to him:

    - New King James
    John 20:15 Jesus said to her, "Woman, why are you weeping? Whom are
    you seeking?'' She, supposing Him to be the gardener, said to Him,
    "Sir, if You have carried Him away, tell me where You have laid Him,
    and I will take Him away.''

    Thus Jesus face was different, and his voice was different. And she
    couldn't recognize him at that moment.

    She did not recognize him because that last time she saw him he was battered bruised, skin ripped off his back and sides and so badly beaten he hardly looked like a man when he was last seen as they wrapped him up and buried
    him.

    rCLJesus saith unto her, Woman, why weepest thou? whom seekest thou? She, supposing him to be the gardener, saith unto him, Sir, if thou have borne
    him hence, tell me where thou hast laid him, and I will take him away.rCY
    (Jhn 20:15)

    rCLJesus saith unto her, Mary. She turned herself, and saith unto him,
    Rabboni; which is to say, Master.rCY (Jhn 20:16)rCY

    She was turned away from him, she only surmised him to be a gardener but when she heard him say rCLMaryrCY she immediately knew who he was and she turned around and spoke to him, the one she knew.

    Thus proving your dogma wrong, again.

    Instead, they substitute the message of their
    organization.

    Wrong again. "Read God's word the Bible daily" was a sign they had
    outside their building. And another message is to preach the word,
    which includes the kingdom.

    Was a sign? Where, when.


    No matter how wide their distribution, they cannot fulfill
    Matthew 24:14 because they do not proclaim the message Christ gave His apostles to preach. Paul warned that if anyone preaches a different
    gospel, rCLlet him be accursedrCY (Galatians 1:8rCo9).

    And that is true. We preach the same message Jesus and his apostles
    preached in the first century; God's Kingdom.
    (see below)

    You know not what it is. Verifiably so by comparing your doctrines against
    the word of God.



    So who are the servants Jesus uses? They are not identified by belonging
    to a modern organization but by their faithfulness to His word. All over the world, true ChristiansrCowhether in houses, villages, cities, or
    hidden gatheringsrCoproclaim the message of Christ crucified and risen. This gospel is being heard in every tongue and nation, through Scripture translations, preaching, and the testimony of ChristrCOs people. That is the fulfillment Jesus spoke of, and when it is complete, then the end
    will come.

    Since you didn't mention it, they are not preaching the KINGDOM
    message which you MUST hear in the last days. (Mt 24:14) If JW's are
    not witnessing to the nations God's Kingdom, who else is preaching the KINGDOM message??

    What Kingdom? You cannot describe it, where it is, what it is. Even what it means.


    And who is delivering it house to house like they did in the first
    century? It takes a lot of organization to do that effectively:

    Yours has failed. They all run like scared rabbits when they meet up with spirit filled believers in God.


    "And every day, in the temple and from house to house, they did not
    cease teaching and preaching that the Christ is Jesus." (Acts 5:42;
    ESV)

    That leaves you all out, for what temple to you meet at, the Mormon Temples?

    There is no JW temple, and all you have is rCLhallsrCY.


    You are so lost in the churche's dogma, you need to climb out. I did
    once, and you can do it too.

    AI Rosie may well be, but you both need deliverance.


    Sincerely James

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  • From Christ Rose@usenet@christrose.news to alt.christnet.christnews,alt.bible,alt.religion.christian on Sat Aug 30 23:49:10 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.bible

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    Sat, 30 Aug 2025 16:17:47 -0400
    <aoi6bk1ak70rara3jp4glf8m1jja03q64c@4ax.com>
    "Sincerely", "soley from the Bible" and
    "Honestly is my middle name"
    James <zebrabible@proton.me> wrote:
    ========================================
    On Sat, 30 Aug 2025 07:38:57 -0500, Christ Rose
    <usenet@christrose.news> wrote:

    Claiming to be the only ones fulfilling Matthew 24:14 does not make it
    so. The Lord Jesus Christ did not leave it vague. He Himself sent His
    apostles to rCLgo therefore and make disciples of all nationsrCa teaching
    them to observe all that I have commanded yourCY (Matthew 28:19rCo20, ESV).

    Claiming that "Claiming to be the only ones fulfilling Matthew 24:14
    does not make it so", does not make it so either.


    Many do proclaim the correct gospel. "Jehovah's Witnesses" do not.

    To begin, it should be YHWH's witnesses, not "Jehovah's".

    Next, since they deny Christ is Jehovah (YHWH), they are not even
    Jehovah's (YHWH's) witnesses.

    rCo Lb|A-Cb|a (KURIOS) is the Holy Spirit inspired word the LXX uses to translate "YHWH"). We know this is inspired because the apostles
    repeatedly referred to the LXX's "KURIOS" ("Lb|A-Cb|a"), and applied it to Jesus Christ:

    1. Joel 2:32 raA Romans 10:13

    rCo Joel 2:32 (LXX): rCLEveryone who calls on the name of the LORD
    (*Kurios*) will be saved.rCY

    rCo Romans 10:13: rCLEveryone who calls on the name of the LORD
    (*Kurios*) will be saved.rCY

    Paul applies this to Jesus in Romans 10:9, identifying Him as the
    *Kurios* on whom we call for salvation.

    2. Isaiah 45:23 raA Philippians 2:10rCo11

    rCo Isaiah 45:23 (LXX): rCLTo Me every knee shall bow, every tongue
    shall confess to God.rCY

    rCo Philippians 2:10rCo11: rCLAt the name of Jesus every knee should
    bow\... and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is LORD
    (*Kurios*).rCY

    Paul applies this passage about YHWH to Jesus, calling Him *Kurios*.

    3. Deuteronomy 6:4 raA 1 Corinthians 8:6

    rCo Deuteronomy 6:4 (LXX): rCLThe LORD (*Kurios*) our God, the LORD
    (*Kurios*) is one.rCY

    rCo 1 Corinthians 8:6: rCLYet for us there is one God, the Father...
    and one LORD (*Kurios*), Jesus Christ.rCY

    Paul affirms monotheism and includes Jesus as *Kurios* within the divine identity.

    4. Psalm 34:8 raA 1 Peter 2:3

    rCo Psalm 34:8 (LXX): rCLTaste and see that the LORD (*Kurios*) is
    good.rCY

    rCo 1 Peter 2:3: rCLIf indeed you have tasted that the LORD
    (*Kurios*) is good.rCY

    Peter quotes the psalm about YHWH and applies it to Jesus as *Kurios*.

    5. Isaiah 8:13rCo14 raA 1 Peter 3:15; Romans 9:33

    rCo Isaiah 8:13: rCLBut the LORD (*Kurios*) of hosts, Him you shall
    honor as holy...rCY

    rCo 1 Peter 3:15: rCLHonor Christ the LORD (*Kurios*) as holy in your
    hearts.rCY

    rCo Isaiah 8:14: rCLAnd He will become a sanctuary and a stone of
    stumbling...rCY

    Romans 9:33 and 1 Peter 2:8 apply this stumbling stone to Christ,
    identifying Him as the *Kurios*.

    6. Psalm 102:25rCo27 raA Hebrews 1:10rCo12

    rCo Psalm 102:25 (LXX): rCLYou, LORD (*Kurios*), laid the foundation
    of the earth in the beginning.rCY

    rCo Hebrews 1:10: rCLYou, LORD (*Kurios*), laid the foundation of the
    earth in the beginning.rCY

    The writer explicitly says this was spoken rCLof the Son,rCY identifying
    Jesus as *Kurios*.

    7. Deuteronomy 10:17 raA Revelation 19:16

    rCo Deuteronomy 10:17 (LXX): rCLFor the LORD (*Kurios*) your God is
    God of gods and LORD (*Kurios*) of lords.rCY

    rCo Revelation 19:16: rCLKing of kings and LORD (*Kurios*) of lords.rCY

    The title for YHWH is applied to Jesus, who bears the name *Kurios* of all.

    The New Testament authors consistently affirm *Kurios* as the proper translation of YHWH and deliberately apply passages about the *Kurios*
    of the Old Testament to Jesus Christ.

    Since you deny Jesus is YHWH ("Lb|A-Cb|a"), you will die in your sins (John
    8; Romans 10:9-10), as will anyone who believes the FALSE gospel
    proclaimed by "Jehovah's Witnesses".
    --
    Have you heard the good news Christ died for our sins (rCa), and God
    raised Him from the dead?

    That Christ died for our sins shows we're sinners who deserve the death penalty. That God raised Him from the dead shows Christ's death
    satisfied God's righteous demands against our sin (Romans 3:25; 1 John
    2:1-2). This means God can now remain just, while forgiving you of your
    sins, and saving you from eternal damnation.

    On the basis of Christ's death and resurrection for our sins, call on
    the name of the Lord to save you: "For 'everyone who calls on the name
    of the Lord will be saved'" (Romans 10:13, ESV).

    https://christrose.news/salvation

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  • From Christ Rose@usenet@christrose.news to alt.christnet.christnews,alt.bible,alt.religion.christian on Sat Aug 30 23:52:16 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.bible

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    Sat, 30 Aug 2025 16:06:47 -0700
    <1090067$2ti45$1@dont-email.me>
    "Robert" (a.k.a "None", "Dr. Who",
    "Anonymous", "HTH", "ahisrwic") wrote:
    ========================================
    The ones who preach the gospel of the kingdom are the apostles of Jesus
    and the church that carries on their witness. Paul explained this plainly:

    That sentence is not true the way you phrased it. Even the verse you quoted does not bear that out.


    You've provide evidence of no such thing.
    --
    Have you heard the good news Christ died for our sins (rCa), and God
    raised Him from the dead?

    That Christ died for our sins shows we're sinners who deserve the death penalty. That God raised Him from the dead shows Christ's death
    satisfied God's righteous demands against our sin (Romans 3:25; 1 John
    2:1-2). This means God can now remain just, while forgiving you of your
    sins, and saving you from eternal damnation.

    On the basis of Christ's death and resurrection for our sins, call on
    the name of the Lord to save you: "For 'everyone who calls on the name
    of the Lord will be saved'" (Romans 10:13, ESV).

    https://christrose.news/salvation

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  • From None@none@none.non to alt.bible, alt.religion.christian on Sun Aug 31 10:41:29 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.bible

    On Aug 30, 2025, zebrabible@proton.me wrote (Message-ID:<10r5bkt3jv1jk1s6jik0vmt6of4u14cmln@4ax.com>):

    On Fri, 29 Aug 2025 18:41:01 -0700, None<none@none.non> wrote:

    On Aug 29, 2025, zebrabible@proton.me wrote (Message-ID:<3mh3bkdgoadkg7kash3gdotquiv9il5lah@4ax.com>):

    They have to be Jesus' servants.

    Who are these people?

    It is for sure not the JW's

    You have a right to think that. But evidence is the cat's meow.

    What cat


    Their theme is the Kingdom of God. They preach
    this throughout the whole world. They don't charge anything for it,
    and spend their own money to do it. Who are these people?

    The JWrCOs are rCLJehovah WitnessesrCY Who they call God and none other.
    To them Jesus in not God but rCLa godrCY, like Baal, Buddha, or over 1,000 +
    gods.

    You degrade Jesus. Jesus is NOTHING like "Baal, Buddha, or over 1,000
    + gods." Jesus is unique. He is one of a kind. Did Bale heal the sick?
    Did Buddha? Did Bale raise the dead? Did Buddha? You need to rethink
    your statement.

    You are the ones who defined Jesus as rCLa godrCY even modifying your scripture to state that. Thus you are the ones who degraded Him, why?

    It is written,rCLWho, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:rCY (Php 2:6)

    Yet you denied that and lessened who He Is. Yet scripture records this,...

    rCLAnd the scribes and the Pharisees began to reason, saying, Who is this which speaketh blasphemies? Who can forgive sins, but God alone? But when Jesus perceived their thoughts, he answering said unto them, What reason ye
    in your hearts? Whether is easier, to say, Thy sins be forgiven thee; or to say, Rise up and walk? But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power upon earth to forgive sins, (he said unto the sick of the palsy,) I say unto thee, Arise, and take up thy couch, and go into thine house.rCY (Luk 5:21-24)

    Even the pharisee could see and understand that only God can do such things. Even tho they too denied his Godship.



    "
    They consider Jesus just a man. In fact they denied his resurrection from the dead. James taught that for most of his life in the JW cult.

    Lying is not what true Christians do.

    Yet you did this is spite of claiming that you believe rCLALLrCY the Bible.


    You said "Jesus just a man". Can a man heal any type of illness? Can a
    man raise the dead? Can a man calm restless seas?

    No, I said that is what your people did for generations. You, yourself, even wrote that on the Usenet, it was one of the rCLTruthsrCY you believed most of your JW life. Now you are trying to shade it. In the past you would admit
    such misstatements, stating that you grew into better truths. Now you are denying your previous errors?


    Like I said above, Jesus is unique. AS JESUS HIMSELF DESCRIBED
    HIMSELF, "I am God's Son". Do you believe Jesus or the churches?

    Jesus is God, fully God, fully Man. You know that very well as I have emphasized that point to you numerous times, so why ask as if you do not
    know? He is also the Son of God, the first begotten of God.


    In fact, as much as James uses the book of Matthew to bolster his half truths, the phrase of the Kingdom of God does not appear in the book of Matthew.

    What is this; birdseed?

    -- American Standard
    Matthew 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in the
    whole world for a testimony unto all the nations; and then shall the
    end come.

    But Matthew DOES say that phrase:

    Mt 12:28= "kingdom of God". (KJV)
    Mt 19:24= "kingdom of God". (KJV)
    Mt 21:31= "kingdom of God". (KJV)
    Mt 21:43= "kingdom of God". (KJV)

    I stand corrected. The phrase is there, but the Gospel of the Kingdom of Heaven is emphasized there.

    You should actually read those scriptures, all of them. According to Matt 12:28 the Kingdom of God came to them, right then and there. Also that the Kingdom of God will be taken from them, the Jews, and given to another. Also given to another nation.

    What is the difference between that and the Kingdom of Heaven? There are 32 verses on that and no where else in the NT.

    Again, I apologize for my mistake on the "Kingdom of God" Phrase in the book of Matthew, Especially after I dbl checked it and it showed up as 0. My
    error.


    It is also found in Mark, Luke, and John, and others.

    Yes, I am fully aware of that, as the kingdom of heaven appears nowhere else, as a phrase, in the NT.


    Later in this current post of His he states that they follow Jesus, not Jehovah,

    Negatrons. We follow primarily Jehovah, but also His Son Jesus.

    No, you donrCOt as you have fully emphasized for the last year or so, your purpose is the spread the Gospel of the Kingdom. You are not, according to your mission statement, propagating Jehovah. And as you have written many times, with pride, the name Jehovah is not in the Old Testament. It is a substitute name as defined by the RCC and Latin, for Yehovah. You constantly reiterate the point of fact that few bible translations directly use the
    names of God there in English. Yet you do not correct the name of your cult.

    Even though Jesus was just a man, and for generations you claimed he did not rise from the dead, and this year modified that to he rose as a spirit that cannot be seen. However, he was seen by over 500 people after he rose from
    the dead. Again, you lightly gloss over these mistakes of your cult and strictly adhere to the latin word thus admitting your hypocrisy.



    and if Jesus is the King of the Kingdom of God that presents quite
    the dilemma to his false teachings.

    Not in the least.

    Then you would have to then agree that Jesus IS God, not 'a god', as the NWT erroneously points out. Especially in light of you posting scripture in another thread from Isaiah that stated that it was God who rules in a future Kingdom on earth until the end of the age of mankind.



    -- New King James
    Matthew 24:14 "And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all
    the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come. Notice not everyone on the planet will hear the Kingdom Message. But
    all the nations must see that this is going on. Just how long they witness it, the Bible doesn't say. But afterward, the END must take place.

    He has never spoken, James that is, of just what is the Kingdom of Heaven or
    the Kingdom of God is.

    You have not read all my postings. I described it many times. But
    thanks. I will discuss it again in my next posting.

    I saw that post, and you were confused and unclear. So I made some points,
    and paused at a point so that you can clarify your points. And no, you have never defined what the Kingdom of God, nor the Kingdom of Heaven truly is.


    Why the confusion? On top of all that he teaches that out of all the billions
    of people that lived only 144K people willl enter it, and they are all Jews.
    12K from 12 tribes.

    It's all symbolic. Paul said a person can be a Jew on the inside.
    Also, Revelation is full of symbolism. Carefully look at the "12
    tribes". They do not all match the original.
    Jesus called that group the "little flock". (Luke 12:32)
    144,000 compared to billions. Get it? LITTLE FLOCK.

    You understand not what you say.

    Being a Jew is not symbolic when speaking of the tribes of Israel. It is not symbolic, it was very specific even to the point of stopping or delaying what was going to happen in order to put His seal upon them. Luke 12:32 is not related to the subject.



    If that teaching were to be the final word, then why should it be taught around the world? SO that they can all see themselves as helpless losers, and that God Cares not of any of them? WhatrCOs the point in that?

    You are riding a different train than the Bible's. The 144,000 go to
    Heaven to RULE over those on earth during the 1000 year reign of
    Jesus. They will be priests and kings.

    There is nothing that supports that in scripture.
    You also said that everyone else would die and nothing would remain of them, not even a memory of them. So why then would the 144K that you insist upon, take joy in ruling over people who were going to die, dead/dead? And how can they rule the earth while in heaven? Where is that stated.


    The rest of the people will be these:

    -- King James
    Matthew 5:5 Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.

    Again you miss the point. What earth? And who are the meek? You were recently shown this and the truth behind if, from scripture, yet here you are still denying the truth.


    Those who survive the end, along with those resurrected, will live on
    this earth. Over time, many will make it into a paradise. (Luke 23:43)

    What are you smoking. That is one thief that he was speaking to, and it was paradise he was going to, which was in the lower part of the earth, separated by a large gulf between it and Hell.



    Jesus never taught such a losing proposition, and He taught the Good News of
    the Kingdom of Heaven.
    So where then is any Good News from the JW cult?

    The Good news is here:

    (Matthew 9:35) And Jesus set out on a tour of all the cities and
    villages, teaching in their synagogues and preaching the good news of
    the Kingdom and curing every sort of disease and every sort of infirmity.(NWT)

    That is no definition of the Good News, it states that he was teaching the goos news.


    (Mark 13:10) Also, in all the nations, the good news has to be
    preached first. (NWT)

    (Revelation 14:6) And I saw another angel flying in midheaven, and he
    had everlasting good news to declare to those who dwell on the earth,
    to every nation and tribe and tongue and people. (NWT)

    (Romans 10:18) But I ask, They did not fail to hear, did they? Why, in
    fact, rCLinto all the earth their sound went out, and to the ends of the inhabited earth their message.rCY (NWT)

    (Matthew 24:14) And this good news of the Kingdom will be preached in
    all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations, and then the
    end will come. (NWT)

    Good news of exactly what? What does it include? To whom does it apply. And how?
    If you do not know, then at least be honest about it.



    Hmmmm? Spend you money to
    teach others what a loser they will forever be?

    If anyone dare oppose the JW cult from within,

    You mean like stealing from people, or commiting adultery, or
    torturing someone (like your sadistic god does), or murdering, etc.
    The APOSTLE PAUL wrote under inspiration to REMOVE the wicked one from
    you. JW's just follow the Bible. Nothing else. No Creeds or church
    false teachings etc:

    No.
    Paul also said to restore such a person, quickly when they repent.
    Any one knows that that those who disagree with a cult, in any point are ostracized and tossed out.
    People who are in eternal torment, placed themselves in that position. Plus, the Word of God teaches of hell and condemnation so as to warn us of the consequences of a life without God. You know all to well that this is a part of scripture both old and new. Yet you called God names, that He is sadistic, and all the while admitting publicly that you do not believe ALL of the
    Bible.

    In fact in this statement of yours you disown the God Yehovah and Jesus, calling him rCLYour sadistic GodrCY when the Bible clearly speaks of him. So who is your god? What is different between him and the god of this world?



    -- Revised Standard
    1 Corinthians 5:13 God judges those outside. "Drive out the wicked
    person from among you."

    Yes REMOVE the wicked man so he don't contaminate anyone else. You
    would do good to follow the Bible here instead of keeping the
    unrepentant wicked person around.

    Then get out of here, but here you are, speaking of things you do not understand.


    they are to expel them out of
    their church, even out of their family to spare them not, and isolate them from their paternal family.

    JW's follow the Bible. Here it is again:

    -- Revised Standard
    1 Corinthians 5:13 God judges those outside. "Drive out the wicked
    person from among you."

    You do not follow the Bible you follow the dogma and doctrines of the JW ORG. Who you trying to fool? That version you quoted is poor and should not be used. Just like the NWT. Drive out is not in there or even meant. There is a huge difference between driving out and putting out.
    Plus in that case the local body was allowing the person to be there and in effect condoning his actions. All of which was wrong when they were born
    again believers. The sinner believer is to be put away, separated from. Meaning those that walk in the flesh, and are actively sinning without restraint. They are not believers, at that point they are users of God,
    taking advantage of his forgiveness and trampling on it like pigs.





    Jesus said the Kingdom message would be preached. Then whoever does
    the preaching MUST BE sent from Jesus. Right? So who are they? The
    Bible doesn't say.

    Oh but it does, you are just blinded to it all, even though many have shown you from scripture who they are.

    So who do you say they are TODAY preaching the Kingdom message?

    Only those who are born again and spirit filled, and continue to walk in the spirit. The rest are frauds, also prophets and teachers. Those of the spirit of antichrist.



    So we need to look for a group of people who live world-wide. Who
    don't just preach general Bible teachings, but they have a THEME to
    their preaching: The KINGDOM of God. They also obey all of Jesus' and God's words, and say that they are CHRISTIANS.

    Many call themselves rCLchristianrCY cause they think it is the right thing to be. And 50% or more of them will end up in hell. Why?
    See Romans 8:8-11

    "8. So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
    9. But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the
    Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of
    Christ, he is none of his.
    10. And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but
    the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
    11. But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead
    dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also
    quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you." (KJV)

    Yes, JW's are "in the Spirit". One reason is because they follow ALL
    the Bible, not just the parts they are comfortable with.

    Nope, they are not walking in the spirit of God. Christ is not IN them.
    Read V9 The spirit of God dwells IN the believer.

    You, yourself, have admitted that, claimng that only the 144K are enabled to be that.
    Why is your rCytruthrCO so inconsistent?






    Baptists, Catholics, Mormons, Methodists, Adventists, etc, may qualify
    on some of those elements, but not all. And none have as their main preaching theme God's Kingdom. And most are mainly quiet in nations
    where they are banned. Not so with Jesus' servants.

    Servants of rCLa godrCY? Someone you downplay as just a man, a man who is not both divine and a deity?

    JW's NEVER downplay Jesus. Next to God, he is the highest "deity". Do
    you have an answer for this one? Jesus and God are both in Heaven.
    Paul then says,

    Why did you choose to ignore the word rCLdivinerCY. Was it out of
    deviousness? Slyly being deceitful?


    -- King James
    1 Corinthians 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every
    man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of
    Christ is God.

    Jesus clearly pointed out that His Father was greater than he. Yet he never denied that he is God or less than equal with Him. You have read and pointed out that verse thousands of times yet never understood it.

    A proper wife knows that her husband is greater than she, yet she is fully equal. And her proper husband serves the wife. There is and was a design by God for that relationship.

    She is of the same flesh as Adam stated at the very beginning of the Bible. Jesus and His Father were and are God. Yehovah, Lord of this realm, made man in rCLtheir imagerCY meaning him and His Father. The Godhead.


    Rather than fight the Bible Scriptures I show you, try to embrase
    them. They are God's word. (2 Tim 3:16) God wants you to live forever,
    as well as all of us.

    Live as in being alive to him not dead to him by those who do not fully believe in Him and walk in the dead fleshly body. (Dead to Him) Mankind without the spirit of the most high God, are the walking dead.


    Your words, not mine. You even deny what is contrary
    to scripture that this earth will cease to be, as well as the heavens surrounding it. That when you die that there will be no trace of you anywhere. Not in this earth, nor the heavens, and not even in memories of anyone, which would include God. That your death will save you from your sins and that Jesus was not necessary for that.

    Peter's references to "earth" means 'people'. And the "heavens" are
    the high rulers now on the earth. They will all be removed:

    Are you speaking of this?

    rCLBut the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which
    the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.rCY (2Pe 3:10)

    If so, then it is all burned up. Whether it be people of elements as stated here.

    And then also there is this, rCLBut the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.rCY (2Pe 3:7)

    Note that ungodly men are set apart from the heavens and the earth. And perdition?
    consumption, destruction; waste, profusion, Mat 26:8; Mrk 14:4; destruction, state of being destroyed, Act 25:6; eternal ruin, perdition, Mat 7:13; Act 8:20.


    -- King James
    Daniel 2:44 And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven
    set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom
    shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and
    consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.

    IN THE BIBLE, Paul said this:

    -- New King James
    Romans 6:7 For he who has died has been freed from sin.

    If you don't believe it, take it up with the apostle Paul.
    Jesus ransom is necessary. Notice:

    -- New King James
    John 14:6 Jesus said to him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life.
    No one comes to the Father except through Me.

    Why throw out these scriptures to us all, when you clearly do not understand the meaning of those words?
    You also take scriptures out of their contextual meanings to create a false narrative. IOW, lie. Paul was speaking of dying to our fleshly desires so
    that we no longer serve sin. Those that are born again and spirit filled and dwell therein are dead to sin, having been freed from it, and rCydeathrCO has no more power or dominion over that person.

    rCLKnowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath
    no more dominion over him. For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God. Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord. Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.rCY (Rom 6:9-12)

    Why not take advantage of what God did for us and be freed from your sins
    Now?





    Jehovah's Witnesses do fulfill ALL the elements. They all live WORLD-WIDE. Primary theme is God's KINGDOM. They not only preach
    directly about it, but stress it throughout their literature.

    Yet you never once mentioned what it is on the Usenet. And everyone knows that what you believe is truth today will not be considered truth tomorrow

    Pardon the harsh word, but NONSENSE.

    Are you now denying your truth and what you proclaimed? Yet, it is nonsense, yet that is what you stated for your justification in changing understanding, yet proclaim that error as Old Truth, that you swapped out for New Truth.


    and that some new truth will be a reality. Also that whatever a person believes that it is their truth.

    There is only one truth; the Holy Bible:

    - King James
    John 17:17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.

    No Bible was mentioned there.


    By extension that thought would include the
    mind of Satan, so you cannot deny him his truth. Absurdity? Most certainly.

    You have to KNOW the mind of Satan, in order to accuse others of
    having it.

    Why, when the word of God describes it, and the spirit of God leads the believer in him/God into all truth?





    For example, The Bible-aid magazine, the Watchtower, is left at multitudes of doors all over the world. On all its magazine covers it says, "ANNOUNCING JEHOVAH'S KINGDOM". That is the greatest news a
    person can receive.

    The only aid of the Word of God, aka the Holy Bible, is the Holy Spirit. And
    the watchtower has spelled out a lot of lies during their time. Like four Apostles returning to earth several decades ago. BTW. What is happening to the billions of dollars the investment group for the JW control? Why are they paid, but not you?

    The true religion (containing JUST ones) progresses a little at a
    time. This is brought out at:

    -- New King James
    Proverbs 4:18 But the path of the just is like the shining sun, that
    shines ever brighter unto the perfect day.

    Another false precept of yours. The Sun is the sun. Its light is constant. Truth changes not. It does not progress, if it was ever progressing then the earth would be burnt up from constantly progressing excess heat. It is when a person enters the light and draws closer to it, they see it much better and all darkness ceases to be. You just see it clearer and reap its benefits, yet it is constant. Changeless.

    Satan blinds people from the truth, the light is they cannot see.




    According to sources, there are 195 nations in the world, plus lands
    not designated as such. Jehovah's Witnesses worship and preach in 240 lands. The world is basically covered. Thus the end should be close.

    Notice, no sources mentioned.

    If you wish:

    "There are 195 recognised countries in the world, according to the
    United Nations."
    (sciencefocus.com)

    Where are the unrecognized ones? Why are there more now, when the earth is
    the same as when there were less than 50?



    Who do the JWrCOs worship? Here from your
    proclamations you appear to worship the JW org. Not God.

    Let me repeat my above statement: NONSENSE.

    Which holds the more weight? The watchtower that tells you what to think
    about the Bible. Or the spirit of God within the Born Again man? Or in some instances, those that seek AI for their knowledge and understanding versus
    the Holy Spirit?


    SPS. Even Jesus
    would never do that. Jesus said that to God the Father be all Glory.

    Jesus has a God. Jesus' God is also our God.

    -- King James
    John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet
    ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I
    ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

    Yes, and I quoted that far before you even knew it was there. Yet you neglect to understand why Father and God of Jesus is the exact same for the Believer. You use it in a twisted devious sense as inspired by the evil one, and use it as a tool to demean Jesus, rather than to understand it for your benefit.
    If you believe all the Bible, then you must accept it all. It is not a Pic n Choose store front.




    Sincerely James

    So now you know who is fulfilling Mt 24:14 in the last days.

    It certainly is NOT your cult. For all the reasons specified above.

    Let the reader decide for himself.

    God has already spelled it out in the Word of God. Jesus prophesied about these things. Especially in these last days, and your cult is definitely a last day occurrence, amongst lothers.


    Sincerely James


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