• Re: Would the instantaneous healing of an adult amputee be a miracle?

    From Dawn Flood@Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com to alt.atheism on Mon Aug 25 21:08:01 2025
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    On 8/24/2025 3:06 PM, Vincent Maycock wrote:
    On Sun, 24 Aug 2025 13:06:23 -0500, Dawn Flood
    <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote:

    If you enter the query, "Would the instantaneous healing of an adult
    amputee be a miracle?" into Google AI over & over, you get different
    answers! It's like it is confused.

    Here's one:

    An instantaneous, complete healing of an adult amputee would, according
    to many definitions, be considered a miracle. This is because it would
    defy the known laws of human biology and healing, fitting the
    traditional understanding of a supernatural event.

    And, another:

    Whether the instantaneous healing of an adult amputee is a miracle
    depends on one's worldview and definition of a miracle. The scientific
    and theological perspectives offer different interpretations of such an
    event, which currently has no documented, verifiable occurrence in
    modern history.

    A third:

    An instantaneous, complete healing of an adult amputee would almost
    certainly be considered a miracle, as it would defy known scientific and
    medical understanding . While definitions of a "miracle" vary across
    beliefs, this event would align with the core components of most
    theological and philosophical interpretations.

    And, a last one:

    That depends on one's worldview and definition of a miracle. Within most
    religious contexts, the instantaneous, complete, and permanent regrowth
    of a severed adult limb would almost certainly be considered a
    miraculous event because it violates the known laws of human biology and
    healing.

    And, so, Google AI appears to be a bit confused! As for me, I like #3
    the best.

    Dawn

    Famously according to Arthur C. Clarke, any sufficiently advanced
    technology is indistinguishable from magic.

    I think that Mr. Clarke got this one wrong. If the Conservation Laws of Nature (energy, momentum, linear and angular, electric charge, etc.) are immutable (at least on microscopic scales), then any technology that any civilization could develop would be described by some mathematical model.

    Dawn
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  • From Vincent Maycock@ma.ycock@gm.ail.com to alt.atheism on Mon Aug 25 20:54:04 2025
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    On Mon, 25 Aug 2025 21:08:01 -0500, Dawn Flood
    <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 8/24/2025 3:06 PM, Vincent Maycock wrote:
    On Sun, 24 Aug 2025 13:06:23 -0500, Dawn Flood
    <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote:

    If you enter the query, "Would the instantaneous healing of an adult
    amputee be a miracle?" into Google AI over & over, you get different
    answers! It's like it is confused.

    Here's one:

    An instantaneous, complete healing of an adult amputee would, according
    to many definitions, be considered a miracle. This is because it would
    defy the known laws of human biology and healing, fitting the
    traditional understanding of a supernatural event.

    And, another:

    Whether the instantaneous healing of an adult amputee is a miracle
    depends on one's worldview and definition of a miracle. The scientific
    and theological perspectives offer different interpretations of such an
    event, which currently has no documented, verifiable occurrence in
    modern history.

    A third:

    An instantaneous, complete healing of an adult amputee would almost
    certainly be considered a miracle, as it would defy known scientific and >>> medical understanding . While definitions of a "miracle" vary across
    beliefs, this event would align with the core components of most
    theological and philosophical interpretations.

    And, a last one:

    That depends on one's worldview and definition of a miracle. Within most >>> religious contexts, the instantaneous, complete, and permanent regrowth
    of a severed adult limb would almost certainly be considered a
    miraculous event because it violates the known laws of human biology and >>> healing.

    And, so, Google AI appears to be a bit confused! As for me, I like #3
    the best.

    Dawn

    Famously according to Arthur C. Clarke, any sufficiently advanced
    technology is indistinguishable from magic.

    I think that Mr. Clarke got this one wrong. If the Conservation Laws of >Nature (energy, momentum, linear and angular, electric charge, etc.) are >immutable (at least on microscopic scales), then any technology that any >civilization could develop would be described by some mathematical model.

    Dawn

    If an amputee regrows a limb, how do you know it's a miracle, rather
    than the result of some (perhaps unknown) laws of physics?




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  • From jojo@f00@0f0.00f to alt.atheism on Tue Aug 26 04:01:23 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    Vincent Maycock wrote:
    On Mon, 25 Aug 2025 21:08:01 -0500, Dawn Flood
    <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 8/24/2025 3:06 PM, Vincent Maycock wrote:
    On Sun, 24 Aug 2025 13:06:23 -0500, Dawn Flood
    <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote:

    If you enter the query, "Would the instantaneous healing of an adult
    amputee be a miracle?" into Google AI over & over, you get different
    answers! It's like it is confused.

    Here's one:

    An instantaneous, complete healing of an adult amputee would, according >>>> to many definitions, be considered a miracle. This is because it would >>>> defy the known laws of human biology and healing, fitting the
    traditional understanding of a supernatural event.

    And, another:

    Whether the instantaneous healing of an adult amputee is a miracle
    depends on one's worldview and definition of a miracle. The scientific >>>> and theological perspectives offer different interpretations of such an >>>> event, which currently has no documented, verifiable occurrence in
    modern history.

    A third:

    An instantaneous, complete healing of an adult amputee would almost
    certainly be considered a miracle, as it would defy known scientific and >>>> medical understanding . While definitions of a "miracle" vary across
    beliefs, this event would align with the core components of most
    theological and philosophical interpretations.

    And, a last one:

    That depends on one's worldview and definition of a miracle. Within most >>>> religious contexts, the instantaneous, complete, and permanent regrowth >>>> of a severed adult limb would almost certainly be considered a
    miraculous event because it violates the known laws of human biology and >>>> healing.

    And, so, Google AI appears to be a bit confused! As for me, I like #3 >>>> the best.

    Dawn

    Famously according to Arthur C. Clarke, any sufficiently advanced
    technology is indistinguishable from magic.

    I think that Mr. Clarke got this one wrong. If the Conservation Laws of
    Nature (energy, momentum, linear and angular, electric charge, etc.) are
    immutable (at least on microscopic scales), then any technology that any
    civilization could develop would be described by some mathematical model.

    Dawn

    If an amputee regrows a limb, how do you know it's a miracle, rather
    than the result of some (perhaps unknown) laws of physics?


    you mean biology, a stem cell in the stump divides and grows the
    arm. its pretty standard.

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  • From Andrew@andrew.321.remov@usa.net to alt.atheism on Tue Aug 26 01:45:38 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.atheism

    "Dawn Flood" wrote in message news:108fkav$2umu4$2@dont-email.me...

    If you enter the query, "Would the instantaneous healing of an adult amputee be a miracle?" into Google AI over & over, you get
    different answers! It's like it is confused.

    Here's one:

    An instantaneous, complete healing of an adult amputee would, according to many definitions, be considered a miracle. This is
    because it would defy the known laws of human biology and healing, fitting the traditional understanding of a supernatural event.

    And, another:

    Whether the instantaneous healing of an adult amputee is a miracle depends on one's worldview and definition of a miracle. The
    scientific and theological perspectives offer different interpretations of such an event, which currently has no documented,
    verifiable occurrence in modern history.

    A third:

    An instantaneous, complete healing of an adult amputee would almost certainly be considered a miracle, as it would defy known
    scientific and medical understanding . While definitions of a "miracle" vary across beliefs, this event would align with the core
    components of most theological and philosophical interpretations.

    And, a last one:

    That depends on one's worldview and definition of a miracle. Within most religious contexts, the instantaneous, complete, and
    permanent regrowth of a severed adult limb would almost certainly be considered a miraculous event because it violates the known
    laws of human biology and healing.

    And, so, Google AI appears to be a bit confused!
    As for me, I like #3 the best.

    Dawn

    God has already given us abundant evidence of
    His existence. But this evil and adulterous
    generation wants to see *miraculous sign*.

    "Then the Pharisees came out and began to dispute with
    Him, seeking from Him a sign from heaven, testing Him.
    But He sighed deeply in His spirit, and said, rCLWhy does
    this generation seek a sign? Assuredly, I say to you, no
    sign shall be given to this generation.rCY
    ~ Mark 8:11-12

    "Only an evil, adulterous generation would
    demand a miraculous sign," ~ Matthew 16:4

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