• As Lady and I Look Out Tonight / a poem by H.C. / cheesetray productions

    From roach4994@roach4994@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (cheesetray) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Mon Aug 25 00:24:05 2025
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    As Lady and I Look Out Tonight


    Stranded on the icy banks
    of a once fertile river's shore,
    where gods intervened
    and mandated, rCLWoman "
    thou shalt cry no morerCY

    she's all dressed
    in red, from her head
    to her feet, both mangled
    by all those jealous lies "
    be careful what you wish
    for you'll be stuck
    with talking fish for
    believing all those hopeless
    romantic sighs.

    carrying a guilt unbearably
    laden, an exogenous
    onus too ugly
    to be true.
    is there anything that could
    ever make me come
    to finally
    believe in you?

    did you really know who
    i am? you said you never
    got that far. did you finally
    figure out that long-gone girl
    of yours, whom you met
    on the red river shore?

    but even more of a mystery, is
    who " was that
    barefooted man? what
    ground there was he
    standing on? who threw it "
    full of sand?

    the river overflowed on
    sands with silt, the dream sank
    naturally into her blood.
    was she a woman
    " or a creature?
    they knew not how
    to teach her
    on their road, now all but mud.

    the only sound left that i
    can hear, is your clock which
    no more can be wound.
    what kind of man are you,
    with no more life-times
    left, to leave me abandoned
    on your mound?

    the door slammed shut straight "
    into my petrified face
    my heart quaking, it blew my body
    and your memory away.
    i turned, then, just as soon "
    peered into your motorcycle room,
    and thought you were telling me
    that i could stay.

    i thought it was sweet, that you
    had planned this meet,
    that you "
    were in charge of it all.
    since i believed in
    my love for you, that we
    would never be through,
    before i left, i ran "
    for you to do
    concentric cartwheels
    " in your galactic backyard.

    there's them,
    then you and me
    you know i can barely see
    nobody really gives too much
    of a damn. i tried so hard
    to tell you, i shot it
    to you, through and
    through, but
    we were both running,
    on the lam.

    from red, down into black,
    darkness setting, with the sun "
    we know you have
    no more lifetimes left "
    and we all know
    that you're the one.

    is there anyone else
    that knows? you're the only
    one who really cares.
    maybe the time
    now calls for silence "
    to stop hawking all my wares.

    i thought that you were gone,
    my friend.
    you were lost to me,
    gone and out. what good
    does that do for us?
    for you to futz around
    and pout?

    are we sharing the same
    dream? i always
    thought we were. because
    of you, i thought
    inside myself, that maybe i
    could be the cure.

    but at what cost did
    this all go down?
    i can't do this without you.
    you know i never left you.
    i stuck to you like glue.

    i'm lost without
    a purpose.
    i'm lost without a goal.
    the bitter winds
    blow in my face, i'm torn "
    and broken off from
    the whole.

    i should melt back into
    the southern gloam,
    i've barely ever had a friend.
    i forward-faced
    the dream, it screams
    like a scratch on my lens,
    i have no heart
    left " for to mend.


    -H.C.
    8.24.25
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  • From roach4994@roach4994@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (cheesetray) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Mon Aug 25 01:44:04 2025
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    cheesetray wrote:
    As Lady and I Look Out Tonight


    Stranded on the icy banks
    of a once fertile river's shore,
    where gods intervened
    and mandated, rCLWoman "
    thou shalt cry no morerCY

    she's all dressed
    in red, from her head
    to her feet, both mangled
    by all those jealous lies "
    be careful what you wish
    for you'll be stuck
    with talking fish for
    believing all those hopeless
    romantic sighs.

    carrying a guilt unbearably
    laden, an exogenous
    onus too ugly
    to be true.
    is there anything that could
    ever make me come
    to finally
    believe in you?

    did you really know who
    i am? you said you never
    got that far. did you finally
    figure out that long-gone girl
    of yours, whom you met
    on the red river shore?

    but even more of a mystery, is
    who " was that
    barefooted man? what
    ground there was he
    standing on? who threw it "
    full of sand?

    the river overflowed on
    sands with silt, the dream sank
    naturally into her blood.
    was she a woman
    " or a creature?
    they knew not how
    to teach her
    on their road, now all but mud.

    the only sound left that i
    can hear, is your clock which
    no more can be wound.
    what kind of man are you,
    with no more life-times
    left, to leave me abandoned
    on your mound?

    the door slammed shut straight "
    into my petrified face
    my heart quaking, it blew my body
    and your memory away.
    i turned, then, just as soon "
    peered into your motorcycle room,
    and thought you were telling me
    that i could stay.

    i thought it was sweet, that you
    had planned this meet,
    that you "
    were in charge of it all.
    since i believed in
    my love for you, that we
    would never be through,
    before i left, i ran "
    for you to do
    concentric cartwheels
    " in your galactic backyard.

    there's them,
    then you and me
    you know i can barely see
    nobody really gives too much
    of a damn. i tried so hard
    to tell you, i shot it
    to you, through and
    through, but
    we were both running,
    on the lam.

    from red, down into black,
    darkness setting, with the sun "
    we know you have
    no more lifetimes left "
    and we all know
    that you're the one.

    is there anyone else
    that knows? you're the only
    one who really cares.
    maybe the time
    now calls for silence "
    to stop hawking all my wares.

    i thought that you were gone,
    my friend.
    you were lost to me,
    gone and out. what good
    does that do for us?
    for you to futz around
    and pout?

    are we sharing the same
    dream? i always
    thought we were. because
    of you, i thought
    inside myself, that maybe i
    could be the cure.

    but at what cost did
    this all go down?
    i can't do this without you.
    you know i never left you.
    i stuck to you like glue.

    i'm lost without
    a purpose.
    i'm lost without a goal.
    the bitter winds
    blow in my face, i'm torn "
    and broken off from
    the whole.

    i should melt back into
    the southern gloam,
    i've barely ever had a friend.
    i forward-faced
    the dream, it screams
    like a scratch on my lens,
    i have no heart
    left " for to mend.


    -H.C.
    8.24.25



    i'm sorry, i don't know how this happened, my copy on file has an em dash after hopeless.


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  • From will.dockery@will.dockery@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (Will-Dockery) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Mon Aug 25 02:02:35 2025
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    cheesetray wrote:

    cheesetray wrote:
    As Lady and I Look Out Tonight


    Stranded on the icy banks
    of a once fertile river's shore,
    where gods intervened
    and mandated, rCLWoman "
    thou shalt cry no morerCY

    she's all dressed
    in red, from her head
    to her feet, both mangled
    by all those jealous lies "
    be careful what you wish
    for you'll be stuck
    with talking fish for
    believing all those hopeless
    romantic sighs.

    carrying a guilt unbearably
    laden, an exogenous
    onus too ugly
    to be true.
    is there anything that could
    ever make me come
    to finally
    believe in you?

    did you really know who
    i am? you said you never
    got that far. did you finally
    figure out that long-gone girl
    of yours, whom you met
    on the red river shore?

    but even more of a mystery, is
    who " was that
    barefooted man? what
    ground there was he
    standing on? who threw it "
    full of sand?

    the river overflowed on
    sands with silt, the dream sank
    naturally into her blood.
    was she a woman
    " or a creature?
    they knew not how
    to teach her
    on their road, now all but mud.

    the only sound left that i
    can hear, is your clock which
    no more can be wound.
    what kind of man are you,
    with no more life-times
    left, to leave me abandoned
    on your mound?

    the door slammed shut straight "
    into my petrified face
    my heart quaking, it blew my body
    and your memory away.
    i turned, then, just as soon "
    peered into your motorcycle room,
    and thought you were telling me
    that i could stay.

    i thought it was sweet, that you
    had planned this meet,
    that you "
    were in charge of it all.
    since i believed in
    my love for you, that we
    would never be through,
    before i left, i ran "
    for you to do
    concentric cartwheels
    " in your galactic backyard.

    there's them,
    then you and me
    you know i can barely see
    nobody really gives too much
    of a damn. i tried so hard
    to tell you, i shot it
    to you, through and
    through, but
    we were both running,
    on the lam.

    from red, down into black,
    darkness setting, with the sun "
    we know you have
    no more lifetimes left "
    and we all know
    that you're the one.

    is there anyone else
    that knows? you're the only
    one who really cares.
    maybe the time
    now calls for silence "
    to stop hawking all my wares.

    i thought that you were gone,
    my friend.
    you were lost to me,
    gone and out. what good
    does that do for us?
    for you to futz around
    and pout?

    are we sharing the same
    dream? i always
    thought we were. because
    of you, i thought
    inside myself, that maybe i
    could be the cure.

    but at what cost did
    this all go down?
    i can't do this without you.
    you know i never left you.
    i stuck to you like glue.

    i'm lost without
    a purpose.
    i'm lost without a goal.
    the bitter winds
    blow in my face, i'm torn "
    and broken off from
    the whole.

    i should melt back into
    the southern gloam,
    i've barely ever had a friend.
    i forward-faced
    the dream, it screams
    like a scratch on my lens,
    i have no heart
    left " for to mend.


    -H.C.
    8.24.25


    i'm sorry, i don't know how this happened, my copy on file has an em dash after hopeless.



    Otherwise, a very smooth poem, good read.


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  • From roach4994@roach4994@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (cheesetray) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Mon Aug 25 02:41:48 2025
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    cheesetray wrote:

    cheesetray wrote:
    As Lady and I Look Out Tonight


    Stranded on the icy banks
    of a once fertile river's shore,
    where gods intervened
    and mandated, rCLWoman "
    thou shalt cry no morerCY

    she's all dressed
    in red, from her head
    to her feet, both mangled
    by all those jealous lies "
    be careful what you wish
    for you'll be stuck
    with talking fish for
    believing all those hopeless
    romantic sighs.

    carrying a guilt unbearably
    laden, an exogenous
    onus too ugly
    to be true.
    is there anything that could
    ever make me come
    to finally
    believe in you?

    did you really know who
    i am? you said you never
    got that far. did you finally
    figure out that long-gone girl
    of yours, whom you met
    on the red river shore?

    but even more of a mystery, is
    who " was that
    barefooted man? what
    ground there was he
    standing on? who threw it "
    full of sand?

    the river overflowed on
    sands with silt, the dream sank
    naturally into her blood.
    was she a woman
    " or a creature?
    they knew not how
    to teach her
    on their road, now all but mud.

    the only sound left that i
    can hear, is your clock which
    no more can be wound.
    what kind of man are you,
    with no more life-times
    left, to leave me abandoned
    on your mound?

    the door slammed shut straight "
    into my petrified face
    my heart quaking, it blew my body
    and your memory away.
    i turned, then, just as soon "
    peered into your motorcycle room,
    and thought you were telling me
    that i could stay.

    i thought it was sweet, that you
    had planned this meet,
    that you "
    were in charge of it all.
    since i believed in
    my love for you, that we
    would never be through,
    before i left, i ran "
    for you to do
    concentric cartwheels
    " in your galactic backyard.

    there's them,
    then you and me
    you know i can barely see
    nobody really gives too much
    of a damn. i tried so hard
    to tell you, i shot it
    to you, through and
    through, but
    we were both running,
    on the lam.

    from red, down into black,
    darkness setting, with the sun "
    we know you have
    no more lifetimes left "
    and we all know
    that you're the one.

    is there anyone else
    that knows? you're the only
    one who really cares.
    maybe the time
    now calls for silence "
    to stop hawking all my wares.

    i thought that you were gone,
    my friend.
    you were lost to me,
    gone and out. what good
    does that do for us?
    for you to futz around
    and pout?

    are we sharing the same
    dream? i always
    thought we were. because
    of you, i thought
    inside myself, that maybe i
    could be the cure.

    but at what cost did
    this all go down?
    i can't do this without you.
    you know i never left you.
    i stuck to you like glue.

    i'm lost without
    a purpose.
    i'm lost without a goal.
    the bitter winds
    blow in my face, i'm torn "
    and broken off from
    the whole.

    i should melt back into
    the southern gloam,
    i've barely ever had a friend.
    i forward-faced
    the dream, it screams
    like a scratch on my lens,
    i have no heart
    left " for to mend.


    -H.C.
    8.24.25


    i'm sorry, i don't know how this happened, my copy on file has an em dash after hopeless.



    maybe i should put an em dash before it screams


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  • From roach4994@roach4994@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (cheesetray) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Mon Aug 25 10:14:30 2025
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    cheesetray wrote:
    As Lady and I Look Out Tonight


    Stranded on the icy banks
    of a once fertile river's shore,
    where gods intervened
    and mandated, rCLWoman "
    thou shalt cry no morerCY

    she's all dressed
    in red, from her head
    to her feet, both mangled
    by all those jealous lies "
    be careful what you wish
    for you'll be stuck
    with talking fish for
    believing all those hopeless
    romantic sighs.

    carrying a guilt unbearably
    laden, an exogenous
    onus too ugly
    to be true.
    is there anything that could
    ever make me come
    to finally
    believe in you?

    did you really know who
    i am? you said you never
    got that far. did you finally
    figure out that long-gone girl
    of yours, whom you met
    on the red river shore?

    but even more of a mystery, is
    who " was that
    barefooted man? what
    ground there was he
    standing on? who threw it "
    full of sand?

    the river overflowed on
    sands with silt, the dream sank
    naturally into her blood.
    was she a woman
    " or a creature?
    they knew not how
    to teach her
    on their road, now all but mud.

    the only sound left that i
    can hear, is your clock which
    no more can be wound.
    what kind of man are you,
    with no more life-times
    left, to leave me abandoned
    on your mound?

    the door slammed shut straight "
    into my petrified face
    my heart quaking, it blew my body
    and your memory away.
    i turned, then, just as soon "
    peered into your motorcycle room,
    and thought you were telling me
    that i could stay.

    i thought it was sweet, that you
    had planned this meet,
    that you "
    were in charge of it all.
    since i believed in
    my love for you, that we
    would never be through,
    before i left, i ran "
    for you to do
    concentric cartwheels
    " in your galactic backyard.

    there's them,
    then you and me
    you know i can barely see
    nobody really gives too much
    of a damn. i tried so hard
    to tell you, i shot it
    to you, through and
    through, but
    we were both running,
    on the lam.

    from red, down into black,
    darkness setting, with the sun "
    we know you have
    no more lifetimes left "
    and we all know
    that you're the one.

    is there anyone else
    that knows? you're the only
    one who really cares.
    maybe the time
    now calls for silence "
    to stop hawking all my wares.

    i thought that you were gone,
    my friend.
    you were lost to me,
    gone and out. what good
    does that do for us?
    for you to futz around
    and pout?

    are we sharing the same
    dream? i always
    thought we were. because
    of you, i thought
    inside myself, that maybe i
    could be the cure.

    but at what cost did
    this all go down?
    i can't do this without you.
    you know i never left you.
    i stuck to you like glue.

    i'm lost without
    a purpose.
    i'm lost without a goal.
    the bitter winds
    blow in my face, i'm torn "
    and broken off from
    the whole.

    i should melt back into
    the southern gloam,
    i've barely ever had a friend.
    i forward-faced
    the dream, it screams
    like a scratch on my lens,
    i have no heart
    left " for to mend.


    -H.C.
    8.24.25



    please try this one:


    As Lady and I Look Out Tonight


    Stranded on the icy banks
    of a once fertile river's shore,
    where gods intervened
    and mandated, rCLwoman "
    thou shalt cry no morerCY

    she's all dressed
    in red, from her head
    to her feet,
    both mangled by all those
    jealous lies "
    be careful what you wish
    for you'll be stuck
    with talking fish, for believing
    all those hopeless
    romantic "
    drawn out sighs.

    carrying a guilt unbearably
    laden, an exogenous onus
    too ugly
    to be true.
    is there anything that could
    ever make me come
    to finally
    believe in you?

    did you really know
    who i am? you said you never
    got that far.
    did you finally figure out
    that long-gone girl
    of yours,
    whom you met
    on the red river shore?

    but even more of a mystery, is
    who " was that
    barefooted man? what ground
    there was he standing on?
    who threw it "full
    of sand?

    the river overflowed on
    sands with silt,
    the dream sank naturally into
    her blood.
    was she a woman
    " or a creature?
    they knew not
    how to teach her
    on their road, now all but mud.

    the only sound left that i
    can hear, is your
    clock which no more
    can be wound.
    what kind of man are you,
    with no more life-times
    left, to leave me
    abandoned
    on your mound?

    the door slammed shut straight "
    into my petrified face,
    my heart quaking, it blew my body
    and your memory away.
    i turned,
    then, just as soon "
    peered into your motorcycle room,
    and thought you were telling me
    that i could stay.

    i thought it was sweet, that you
    had planned this meet,
    that you "
    were in charge, of it all.
    since i believed in
    my love for you, that we would
    never be through,
    before i left, i ran "
    for you to do concentric cartwheels
    " in your galactic backyard.

    there's them, then you
    and me,
    you know i can barely see,
    nobody really gives
    too much of a damn.
    i tried so hard
    to tell you, i shot it to you,
    through and through, but we
    were both running,
    on the lam.

    from red, down into black,
    darkness setting, with the sun "
    we know you have
    no more lifetimes left "
    and we all know
    that you're the one.

    is there anyone else "
    that knows? you're the only
    one who really cares.
    maybe the time
    now calls for silence "
    to stop hawking all my wares.

    i thought that you were gone,
    my friend.
    you were lost to me,
    gone and out. what good
    does that do for us?
    for you to futz around
    and pout?

    are we sharing the same
    dream? i always
    thought we were. because
    of you, i thought
    inside myself, that maybe i
    could be the cure.

    but at what cost did
    this all go down?
    i can't do this without you.
    you know i never left you.
    i stuck to you like glue.

    i'm lost without
    a purpose.
    i'm lost without a goal.
    the bitter winds
    blow in my face, i'm torn "
    and broken off from
    the whole.

    i should melt back into
    the southern gloam,
    i've barely ever had a friend.
    i forward-faced
    the dream. it screams
    like a scratch on my lens,
    i have no heart
    left " for to mend.


    -H.C.
    8.24.25


    This is a response to the post seen at: http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=694942858#694942858
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  • From roach4994@roach4994@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (cheesetray) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Mon Aug 25 10:20:57 2025
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    cheesetray wrote:
    As Lady and I Look Out Tonight


    Stranded on the icy banks
    of a once fertile river's shore,
    where gods intervened
    and mandated, rCLWoman "
    thou shalt cry no morerCY

    she's all dressed
    in red, from her head
    to her feet, both mangled
    by all those jealous lies "
    be careful what you wish
    for you'll be stuck
    with talking fish for
    believing all those hopeless
    romantic sighs.

    carrying a guilt unbearably
    laden, an exogenous
    onus too ugly
    to be true.
    is there anything that could
    ever make me come
    to finally
    believe in you?

    did you really know who
    i am? you said you never
    got that far. did you finally
    figure out that long-gone girl
    of yours, whom you met
    on the red river shore?

    but even more of a mystery, is
    who " was that
    barefooted man? what
    ground there was he
    standing on? who threw it "
    full of sand?

    the river overflowed on
    sands with silt, the dream sank
    naturally into her blood.
    was she a woman
    " or a creature?
    they knew not how
    to teach her
    on their road, now all but mud.

    the only sound left that i
    can hear, is your clock which
    no more can be wound.
    what kind of man are you,
    with no more life-times
    left, to leave me abandoned
    on your mound?

    the door slammed shut straight "
    into my petrified face
    my heart quaking, it blew my body
    and your memory away.
    i turned, then, just as soon "
    peered into your motorcycle room,
    and thought you were telling me
    that i could stay.

    i thought it was sweet, that you
    had planned this meet,
    that you "
    were in charge of it all.
    since i believed in
    my love for you, that we
    would never be through,
    before i left, i ran "
    for you to do
    concentric cartwheels
    " in your galactic backyard.

    there's them,
    then you and me
    you know i can barely see
    nobody really gives too much
    of a damn. i tried so hard
    to tell you, i shot it
    to you, through and
    through, but
    we were both running,
    on the lam.

    from red, down into black,
    darkness setting, with the sun "
    we know you have
    no more lifetimes left "
    and we all know
    that you're the one.

    is there anyone else
    that knows? you're the only
    one who really cares.
    maybe the time
    now calls for silence "
    to stop hawking all my wares.

    i thought that you were gone,
    my friend.
    you were lost to me,
    gone and out. what good
    does that do for us?
    for you to futz around
    and pout?

    are we sharing the same
    dream? i always
    thought we were. because
    of you, i thought
    inside myself, that maybe i
    could be the cure.

    but at what cost did
    this all go down?
    i can't do this without you.
    you know i never left you.
    i stuck to you like glue.

    i'm lost without
    a purpose.
    i'm lost without a goal.
    the bitter winds
    blow in my face, i'm torn "
    and broken off from
    the whole.

    i should melt back into
    the southern gloam,
    i've barely ever had a friend.
    i forward-faced
    the dream, it screams
    like a scratch on my lens,
    i have no heart
    left " for to mend.


    -H.C.
    8.24.25



    PLEASE DON'T KILL ME I PASTED THE WRONG ONE, I MAY HAVE EVEN LOST IT


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  • From will.dockery@will.dockery@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (Will-Dockery) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Mon Aug 25 10:31:29 2025
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    cheesetray wrote:
    PLEASE DON'T KILL ME I PASTED THE WRONG ONE, I MAY HAVE EVEN LOST IT



    Hopefully not...


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  • From roach4994@roach4994@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (cheesetray) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Mon Aug 25 11:32:51 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.arts.poetry.comments

    cheesetray wrote:
    As Lady and I Look Out Tonight


    Stranded on the icy banks
    of a once fertile river's shore,
    where gods intervened
    and mandated, rCLWoman "
    thou shalt cry no morerCY

    she's all dressed
    in red, from her head
    to her feet, both mangled
    by all those jealous lies "
    be careful what you wish
    for you'll be stuck
    with talking fish for
    believing all those hopeless
    romantic sighs.

    carrying a guilt unbearably
    laden, an exogenous
    onus too ugly
    to be true.
    is there anything that could
    ever make me come
    to finally
    believe in you?

    did you really know who
    i am? you said you never
    got that far. did you finally
    figure out that long-gone girl
    of yours, whom you met
    on the red river shore?

    but even more of a mystery, is
    who " was that
    barefooted man? what
    ground there was he
    standing on? who threw it "
    full of sand?

    the river overflowed on
    sands with silt, the dream sank
    naturally into her blood.
    was she a woman
    " or a creature?
    they knew not how
    to teach her
    on their road, now all but mud.

    the only sound left that i
    can hear, is your clock which
    no more can be wound.
    what kind of man are you,
    with no more life-times
    left, to leave me abandoned
    on your mound?

    the door slammed shut straight "
    into my petrified face
    my heart quaking, it blew my body
    and your memory away.
    i turned, then, just as soon "
    peered into your motorcycle room,
    and thought you were telling me
    that i could stay.

    i thought it was sweet, that you
    had planned this meet,
    that you "
    were in charge of it all.
    since i believed in
    my love for you, that we
    would never be through,
    before i left, i ran "
    for you to do
    concentric cartwheels
    " in your galactic backyard.

    there's them,
    then you and me
    you know i can barely see
    nobody really gives too much
    of a damn. i tried so hard
    to tell you, i shot it
    to you, through and
    through, but
    we were both running,
    on the lam.

    from red, down into black,
    darkness setting, with the sun "
    we know you have
    no more lifetimes left "
    and we all know
    that you're the one.

    is there anyone else
    that knows? you're the only
    one who really cares.
    maybe the time
    now calls for silence "
    to stop hawking all my wares.

    i thought that you were gone,
    my friend.
    you were lost to me,
    gone and out. what good
    does that do for us?
    for you to futz around
    and pout?

    are we sharing the same
    dream? i always
    thought we were. because
    of you, i thought
    inside myself, that maybe i
    could be the cure.

    but at what cost did
    this all go down?
    i can't do this without you.
    you know i never left you.
    i stuck to you like glue.

    i'm lost without
    a purpose.
    i'm lost without a goal.
    the bitter winds
    blow in my face, i'm torn "
    and broken off from
    the whole.

    i should melt back into
    the southern gloam,
    i've barely ever had a friend.
    i forward-faced
    the dream, it screams
    like a scratch on my lens,
    i have no heart
    left " for to mend.


    -H.C.
    8.24.25



    Ok, I had to start all over, from memory, which failed me somewhat, I don't even think it's better, I just know the one I lost was so good. I was so happy with it. :-( I think it's okay?


    As Lady and I Look Out Tonight


    Stranded on the icy banks
    of a once fertile river's shore,
    where gods intervened
    and mandated, rCLwoman "
    thou shalt cry no morerCY

    she's all dressed
    in red, from her head
    to her feet,
    both mangled by all those
    jealous lies "
    be careful what you wish
    for you'll be stuck
    with talking fish, for believing
    all those hopeless
    romantic "
    drawn out sighs.

    carrying a guilt unbearably
    laden, an exogenous
    onus too ugly
    to be true "
    is there anything that could
    ever make me come
    to finally
    believe in you?

    did you really know who
    i am? you said you
    never
    got that far.
    did you finally figure out
    that long-gone girl
    of yours,
    whom you met
    on the red river shore?

    but even more of a mystery, is
    who " was
    that barefooted man? what ground
    there was he
    standing on? who threw it "
    full of sand?

    the river overflowed on
    sands, with silt,
    the dream sank naturally into
    her blood.
    was she a woman
    " or a creature?
    they knew not
    how to teach her
    on their road, now all but mud.

    the only sound left, that i
    can hear, is your clock
    which no more can be wound.
    what kind of man
    are you, with no more life-times
    left, to leave me
    abandoned
    on your mound?

    the door slammed shut straight "
    into my petrified face,
    my heart quaking, it blew my body
    and your memory away.
    i turned,
    then, just as soon "
    peered into your motorcycle room,
    and thought you were
    telling me
    that i could stay.

    i thought it was sweet, that you
    had planned this meet,
    that you "
    were in charge, of it all.
    since i believed in
    my love for you, that we would
    never be through,
    before i left, i ran "
    for you, to do concentric cartwheels
    " in your galactic backyard.

    there's them, then you
    and me. you know
    i can barely see, and nobody
    really gives "
    too much " of a damn. i tried
    so hard " to tell you,
    i shot it to you,
    through and through, but we
    were both running, on
    the lam.

    from red, down into black,
    darkness setting, with the sun "
    we know you have
    no more lifetimes left "
    and we all know
    that you're the one.

    is there anyone else "
    that knows? you're the only
    one who really cares.
    maybe the time
    now calls for silence "
    to stop hawking all my wares.

    i thought that you were
    gone, my friend. you were
    lost to me, gone
    and out. what good does
    that do for us?
    for you to futz around
    and pout?

    are we sharing the same
    dream? i always
    thought we were. because
    of you, i thought
    inside myself, that maybe i
    could be the cure.

    but at what cost did
    this all go down?
    i can't do this without you.
    you know i never left you.
    i stuck to you like glue.

    i'm lost without
    a purpose.
    i'm lost without a goal.
    the bitter winds
    blow in my face, i'm torn "
    and broken off from
    the whole.

    i should melt back into
    the southern gloam,
    i've barely ever had a friend.
    i forward-faced
    the dream. it screams
    like a scratch on my lens,
    i have no heart
    left " for to mend.


    -H.C.
    8.24.25


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  • From roach4994@roach4994@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (cheesetray) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Mon Aug 25 11:41:24 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.arts.poetry.comments

    cheesetray wrote:
    Ok, I had to start all over, from memory, which failed me somewhat, I don't even think it's better, I just know the one I lost was so good. I was so happy with it. :-( I think it's okay?


    As Lady and I Look Out Tonight


    Stranded on the icy banks
    of a once fertile river's shore,
    where gods intervened
    and mandated, rCLwoman "
    thou shalt cry no morerCY

    she's all dressed
    in red, from her head
    to her feet,
    both mangled by all those
    jealous lies "
    be careful what you wish
    for you'll be stuck
    with talking fish, for believing
    all those hopeless
    romantic "
    drawn out sighs.

    carrying a guilt unbearably
    laden, an exogenous
    onus too ugly
    to be true "
    is there anything that could
    ever make me come
    to finally
    believe in you?

    did you really know who
    i am? you said you
    never
    got that far.
    did you finally figure out
    that long-gone girl
    of yours,
    whom you met
    on the red river shore?

    but even more of a mystery, is
    who " was
    that barefooted man? what ground
    there was he
    standing on? who threw it "
    full of sand?

    the river overflowed on
    sands, with silt,
    the dream sank naturally into
    her blood.
    was she a woman
    " or a creature?
    they knew not
    how to teach her
    on their road, now all but mud.

    the only sound left, that i
    can hear, is your clock
    which no more can be wound.
    what kind of man
    are you, with no more life-times
    left, to leave me
    abandoned
    on your mound?

    the door slammed shut straight "
    into my petrified face,
    my heart quaking, it blew my body
    and your memory away.
    i turned,
    then, just as soon "
    peered into your motorcycle room,
    and thought you were
    telling me
    that i could stay.

    i thought it was sweet, that you
    had planned this meet,
    that you "
    were in charge, of it all.
    since i believed in
    my love for you, that we would
    never be through,
    before i left, i ran "
    for you, to do concentric cartwheels
    " in your galactic backyard.

    there's them, then you
    and me. you know
    i can barely see, and nobody
    really gives "
    too much " of a damn. i tried
    so hard " to tell you,
    i shot it to you,
    through and through, but we
    were both running, on
    the lam.

    from red, down into black,
    darkness setting, with the sun "
    we know you have
    no more lifetimes left "
    and we all know
    that you're the one.

    is there anyone else "
    that knows? you're the only
    one who really cares.
    maybe the time
    now calls for silence "
    to stop hawking all my wares.

    i thought that you were
    gone, my friend. you were
    lost to me, gone
    and out. what good does
    that do for us?
    for you to futz around
    and pout?

    are we sharing the same
    dream? i always
    thought we were. because
    of you, i thought
    inside myself, that maybe i
    could be the cure.

    but at what cost did
    this all go down?
    i can't do this without you.
    you know i never left you.
    i stuck to you like glue.

    i'm lost without
    a purpose.
    i'm lost without a goal.
    the bitter winds
    blow in my face, i'm torn "
    and broken off from
    the whole.

    i should melt back into
    the southern gloam,
    i've barely ever had a friend.
    i forward-faced
    the dream. it screams
    like a scratch on my lens,
    i have no heart
    left " for to mend.


    -H.C.
    8.24.25




    the SECOND after i sent this, i saw this one stanza, and knew it was wrong. i remembered that last time, where the break was.

    i tried to do it over. (again)

    the only sound left, that i
    can hear, is your clock
    which no more
    can be wound. what kind
    of man are you, with no more
    life-times left,
    to leave me abandoned
    on your mound?


    This is a response to the post seen at: http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=694942858#694942858
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  • From roach4994@roach4994@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (cheesetray) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Mon Aug 25 11:45:03 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.arts.poetry.comments

    cheesetray wrote:

    cheesetray wrote:
    Ok, I had to start all over, from memory, which failed me somewhat, I don't even think it's better, I just know the one I lost was so good. I was so happy with it. :-( I think it's okay?


    As Lady and I Look Out Tonight


    Stranded on the icy banks
    of a once fertile river's shore,
    where gods intervened
    and mandated, rCLwoman "
    thou shalt cry no morerCY

    she's all dressed
    in red, from her head
    to her feet,
    both mangled by all those
    jealous lies "
    be careful what you wish
    for you'll be stuck
    with talking fish, for believing
    all those hopeless
    romantic "
    drawn out sighs.

    carrying a guilt unbearably
    laden, an exogenous
    onus too ugly
    to be true "
    is there anything that could
    ever make me come
    to finally
    believe in you?

    did you really know who
    i am? you said you
    never
    got that far.
    did you finally figure out
    that long-gone girl
    of yours,
    whom you met
    on the red river shore?

    but even more of a mystery, is
    who " was
    that barefooted man? what ground
    there was he
    standing on? who threw it "
    full of sand?

    the river overflowed on
    sands, with silt,
    the dream sank naturally into
    her blood.
    was she a woman
    " or a creature?
    they knew not
    how to teach her
    on their road, now all but mud.

    the only sound left, that i
    can hear, is your clock
    which no more can be wound.
    what kind of man
    are you, with no more life-times
    left, to leave me
    abandoned
    on your mound?

    the door slammed shut straight "
    into my petrified face,
    my heart quaking, it blew my body
    and your memory away.
    i turned,
    then, just as soon "
    peered into your motorcycle room,
    and thought you were
    telling me
    that i could stay.

    i thought it was sweet, that you
    had planned this meet,
    that you "
    were in charge, of it all.
    since i believed in
    my love for you, that we would
    never be through,
    before i left, i ran "
    for you, to do concentric cartwheels
    " in your galactic backyard.

    there's them, then you
    and me. you know
    i can barely see, and nobody
    really gives "
    too much " of a damn. i tried
    so hard " to tell you,
    i shot it to you,
    through and through, but we
    were both running, on
    the lam.

    from red, down into black,
    darkness setting, with the sun "
    we know you have
    no more lifetimes left "
    and we all know
    that you're the one.

    is there anyone else "
    that knows? you're the only
    one who really cares.
    maybe the time
    now calls for silence "
    to stop hawking all my wares.

    i thought that you were
    gone, my friend. you were
    lost to me, gone
    and out. what good does
    that do for us?
    for you to futz around
    and pout?

    are we sharing the same
    dream? i always
    thought we were. because
    of you, i thought
    inside myself, that maybe i
    could be the cure.

    but at what cost did
    this all go down?
    i can't do this without you.
    you know i never left you.
    i stuck to you like glue.

    i'm lost without
    a purpose.
    i'm lost without a goal.
    the bitter winds
    blow in my face, i'm torn "
    and broken off from
    the whole.

    i should melt back into
    the southern gloam,
    i've barely ever had a friend.
    i forward-faced
    the dream. it screams
    like a scratch on my lens,
    i have no heart
    left " for to mend.


    -H.C.
    8.24.25



    the SECOND after i sent this, i saw this one stanza, and knew it was wrong. i remembered that last time, where the break was.

    i tried to do it over. (again)

    the only sound left, that i
    can hear, is your clock
    which no more
    can be wound. what kind
    of man are you, with no more
    life-times left,
    to leave me abandoned
    on your mound?



    maybe an em dash after clock, so people don't accidentally end there.


    the only sound left, that i
    can hear, is your clock "
    which no more
    can be wound. what kind
    of man are you, with no more
    life-times left,
    to leave me abandoned
    on your mound?


    This is a response to the post seen at: http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=694942858#694942858
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  • From roach4994@roach4994@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (cheesetray) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Mon Aug 25 12:41:46 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.arts.poetry.comments

    cheesetray wrote:

    cheesetray wrote:

    cheesetray wrote:
    Ok, I had to start all over, from memory, which failed me somewhat, I don't even think it's better, I just know the one I lost was so good. I was so happy with it. :-( I think it's okay?


    As Lady and I Look Out Tonight


    Stranded on the icy banks
    of a once fertile river's shore,
    where gods intervened
    and mandated, rCLwoman "
    thou shalt cry no morerCY

    she's all dressed
    in red, from her head
    to her feet,
    both mangled by all those
    jealous lies "
    be careful what you wish
    for you'll be stuck
    with talking fish, for believing
    all those hopeless
    romantic "
    drawn out sighs.

    carrying a guilt unbearably
    laden, an exogenous
    onus too ugly
    to be true "
    is there anything that could
    ever make me come
    to finally
    believe in you?

    did you really know who
    i am? you said you
    never
    got that far.
    did you finally figure out
    that long-gone girl
    of yours,
    whom you met
    on the red river shore?

    but even more of a mystery, is
    who " was
    that barefooted man? what ground
    there was he
    standing on? who threw it "
    full of sand?

    the river overflowed on
    sands, with silt,
    the dream sank naturally into
    her blood.
    was she a woman
    " or a creature?
    they knew not
    how to teach her
    on their road, now all but mud.

    the only sound left, that i
    can hear, is your clock
    which no more can be wound.
    what kind of man
    are you, with no more life-times
    left, to leave me
    abandoned
    on your mound?

    the door slammed shut straight "
    into my petrified face,
    my heart quaking, it blew my body
    and your memory away.
    i turned,
    then, just as soon "
    peered into your motorcycle room,
    and thought you were
    telling me
    that i could stay.

    i thought it was sweet, that you
    had planned this meet,
    that you "
    were in charge, of it all.
    since i believed in
    my love for you, that we would
    never be through,
    before i left, i ran "
    for you, to do concentric cartwheels
    " in your galactic backyard.

    there's them, then you
    and me. you know
    i can barely see, and nobody
    really gives "
    too much " of a damn. i tried
    so hard " to tell you,
    i shot it to you,
    through and through, but we
    were both running, on
    the lam.

    from red, down into black,
    darkness setting, with the sun "
    we know you have
    no more lifetimes left "
    and we all know
    that you're the one.

    is there anyone else "
    that knows? you're the only
    one who really cares.
    maybe the time
    now calls for silence "
    to stop hawking all my wares.

    i thought that you were
    gone, my friend. you were
    lost to me, gone
    and out. what good does
    that do for us?
    for you to futz around
    and pout?

    are we sharing the same
    dream? i always
    thought we were. because
    of you, i thought
    inside myself, that maybe i
    could be the cure.

    but at what cost did
    this all go down?
    i can't do this without you.
    you know i never left you.
    i stuck to you like glue.

    i'm lost without
    a purpose.
    i'm lost without a goal.
    the bitter winds
    blow in my face, i'm torn "
    and broken off from
    the whole.

    i should melt back into
    the southern gloam,
    i've barely ever had a friend.
    i forward-faced
    the dream. it screams
    like a scratch on my lens,
    i have no heart
    left " for to mend.


    -H.C.
    8.24.25



    the SECOND after i sent this, i saw this one stanza, and knew it was wrong. i remembered that last time, where the break was.

    i tried to do it over. (again)

    the only sound left, that i
    can hear, is your clock
    which no more
    can be wound. what kind
    of man are you, with no more
    life-times left,
    to leave me abandoned
    on your mound?


    maybe an em dash after clock, so people don't accidentally end there.


    the only sound left, that i
    can hear, is your clock "
    which no more
    can be wound. what kind
    of man are you, with no more
    life-times left,
    to leave me abandoned
    on your mound?




    but even more of a mystery, is
    who " was that
    barefooted man? what ground
    there was he
    standing on? who threw it "
    full of sand?


    This is a response to the post seen at: http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=694942858#694942858
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  • From roach4994@roach4994@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (cheesetray) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Mon Aug 25 13:04:01 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.arts.poetry.comments

    cheesetray wrote:

    cheesetray wrote:

    cheesetray wrote:

    cheesetray wrote:
    Ok, I had to start all over, from memory, which failed me somewhat, I don't even think it's better, I just know the one I lost was so good. I was so happy with it. :-( I think it's okay?


    As Lady and I Look Out Tonight


    Stranded on the icy banks
    of a once fertile river's shore,
    where gods intervened
    and mandated, rCLwoman "
    thou shalt cry no morerCY

    she's all dressed
    in red, from her head
    to her feet,
    both mangled by all those
    jealous lies "
    be careful what you wish
    for you'll be stuck
    with talking fish, for believing
    all those hopeless
    romantic "
    drawn out sighs.

    carrying a guilt unbearably
    laden, an exogenous
    onus too ugly
    to be true "
    is there anything that could
    ever make me come
    to finally
    believe in you?

    did you really know who
    i am? you said you
    never
    got that far.
    did you finally figure out
    that long-gone girl
    of yours,
    whom you met
    on the red river shore?

    but even more of a mystery, is
    who " was
    that barefooted man? what ground
    there was he
    standing on? who threw it "
    full of sand?

    the river overflowed on
    sands, with silt,
    the dream sank naturally into
    her blood.
    was she a woman
    " or a creature?
    they knew not
    how to teach her
    on their road, now all but mud.

    the only sound left, that i
    can hear, is your clock
    which no more can be wound.
    what kind of man
    are you, with no more life-times
    left, to leave me
    abandoned
    on your mound?

    the door slammed shut straight "
    into my petrified face,
    my heart quaking, it blew my body
    and your memory away.
    i turned,
    then, just as soon "
    peered into your motorcycle room,
    and thought you were
    telling me
    that i could stay.

    i thought it was sweet, that you
    had planned this meet,
    that you "
    were in charge, of it all.
    since i believed in
    my love for you, that we would
    never be through,
    before i left, i ran "
    for you, to do concentric cartwheels
    " in your galactic backyard.

    there's them, then you
    and me. you know
    i can barely see, and nobody
    really gives "
    too much " of a damn. i tried
    so hard " to tell you,
    i shot it to you,
    through and through, but we
    were both running, on
    the lam.

    from red, down into black,
    darkness setting, with the sun "
    we know you have
    no more lifetimes left "
    and we all know
    that you're the one.

    is there anyone else "
    that knows? you're the only
    one who really cares.
    maybe the time
    now calls for silence "
    to stop hawking all my wares.

    i thought that you were
    gone, my friend. you were
    lost to me, gone
    and out. what good does
    that do for us?
    for you to futz around
    and pout?

    are we sharing the same
    dream? i always
    thought we were. because
    of you, i thought
    inside myself, that maybe i
    could be the cure.

    but at what cost did
    this all go down?
    i can't do this without you.
    you know i never left you.
    i stuck to you like glue.

    i'm lost without
    a purpose.
    i'm lost without a goal.
    the bitter winds
    blow in my face, i'm torn "
    and broken off from
    the whole.

    i should melt back into
    the southern gloam,
    i've barely ever had a friend.
    i forward-faced
    the dream. it screams
    like a scratch on my lens,
    i have no heart
    left " for to mend.


    -H.C.
    8.24.25



    the SECOND after i sent this, i saw this one stanza, and knew it was wrong. i remembered that last time, where the break was.

    i tried to do it over. (again)

    the only sound left, that i
    can hear, is your clock
    which no more
    can be wound. what kind
    of man are you, with no more
    life-times left,
    to leave me abandoned
    on your mound?


    maybe an em dash after clock, so people don't accidentally end there.


    the only sound left, that i
    can hear, is your clock "
    which no more
    can be wound. what kind
    of man are you, with no more
    life-times left,
    to leave me abandoned
    on your mound?



    but even more of a mystery, is
    who " was that
    barefooted man? what ground
    there was he
    standing on? who threw it "
    full of sand?



    this is crazy. the difference between how you hear something, or THINK you hear something, then trying again, and you are so embarrassed, it's so gone. but the thing was, you even tried reading it aloud (so quietly and hesitantly) and you thought it worked great. (reading aloud for the very reason that you thought you could NOT hear it). but now it's so gone to me, i have come up with this, closer to the way i originally had it written before posting, but not quite.

    i should go melt back into
    the southern gloam, i've barely
    ever had a friend.
    i have forward-faced
    the dream and it screamed
    like a scratch
    on my lens, i have
    no heart left for to mend.


    This is a response to the post seen at: http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=694942858#694942858
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  • From roach4994@roach4994@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (cheesetray) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Mon Aug 25 13:23:32 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.arts.poetry.comments

    cheesetray wrote:

    cheesetray wrote:

    cheesetray wrote:

    cheesetray wrote:

    cheesetray wrote:
    Ok, I had to start all over, from memory, which failed me somewhat, I don't even think it's better, I just know the one I lost was so good. I was so happy with it. :-( I think it's okay?


    As Lady and I Look Out Tonight


    Stranded on the icy banks
    of a once fertile river's shore,
    where gods intervened
    and mandated, rCLwoman "
    thou shalt cry no morerCY

    she's all dressed
    in red, from her head
    to her feet,
    both mangled by all those
    jealous lies "
    be careful what you wish
    for you'll be stuck
    with talking fish, for believing
    all those hopeless
    romantic "
    drawn out sighs.

    carrying a guilt unbearably
    laden, an exogenous
    onus too ugly
    to be true "
    is there anything that could
    ever make me come
    to finally
    believe in you?

    did you really know who
    i am? you said you
    never
    got that far.
    did you finally figure out
    that long-gone girl
    of yours,
    whom you met
    on the red river shore?

    but even more of a mystery, is
    who " was
    that barefooted man? what ground
    there was he
    standing on? who threw it "
    full of sand?

    the river overflowed on
    sands, with silt,
    the dream sank naturally into
    her blood.
    was she a woman
    " or a creature?
    they knew not
    how to teach her
    on their road, now all but mud.

    the only sound left, that i
    can hear, is your clock
    which no more can be wound.
    what kind of man
    are you, with no more life-times
    left, to leave me
    abandoned
    on your mound?

    the door slammed shut straight "
    into my petrified face,
    my heart quaking, it blew my body
    and your memory away.
    i turned,
    then, just as soon "
    peered into your motorcycle room,
    and thought you were
    telling me
    that i could stay.

    i thought it was sweet, that you
    had planned this meet,
    that you "
    were in charge, of it all.
    since i believed in
    my love for you, that we would
    never be through,
    before i left, i ran "
    for you, to do concentric cartwheels
    " in your galactic backyard.

    there's them, then you
    and me. you know
    i can barely see, and nobody
    really gives "
    too much " of a damn. i tried
    so hard " to tell you,
    i shot it to you,
    through and through, but we
    were both running, on
    the lam.

    from red, down into black,
    darkness setting, with the sun "
    we know you have
    no more lifetimes left "
    and we all know
    that you're the one.

    is there anyone else "
    that knows? you're the only
    one who really cares.
    maybe the time
    now calls for silence "
    to stop hawking all my wares.

    i thought that you were
    gone, my friend. you were
    lost to me, gone
    and out. what good does
    that do for us?
    for you to futz around
    and pout?

    are we sharing the same
    dream? i always
    thought we were. because
    of you, i thought
    inside myself, that maybe i
    could be the cure.

    but at what cost did
    this all go down?
    i can't do this without you.
    you know i never left you.
    i stuck to you like glue.

    i'm lost without
    a purpose.
    i'm lost without a goal.
    the bitter winds
    blow in my face, i'm torn "
    and broken off from
    the whole.

    i should melt back into
    the southern gloam,
    i've barely ever had a friend.
    i forward-faced
    the dream. it screams
    like a scratch on my lens,
    i have no heart
    left " for to mend.


    -H.C.
    8.24.25



    the SECOND after i sent this, i saw this one stanza, and knew it was wrong. i remembered that last time, where the break was.

    i tried to do it over. (again)

    the only sound left, that i
    can hear, is your clock
    which no more
    can be wound. what kind
    of man are you, with no more
    life-times left,
    to leave me abandoned
    on your mound?


    maybe an em dash after clock, so people don't accidentally end there.


    the only sound left, that i
    can hear, is your clock "
    which no more
    can be wound. what kind
    of man are you, with no more
    life-times left,
    to leave me abandoned
    on your mound?



    but even more of a mystery, is
    who " was that
    barefooted man? what ground
    there was he
    standing on? who threw it "
    full of sand?


    this is crazy. the difference between how you hear something, or THINK you hear something, then trying again, and you are so embarrassed, it's so gone. but the thing was, you even tried reading it aloud (so quietly and hesitantly) and you thought it worked great. (reading aloud for the very reason that you thought you could NOT hear it). but now it's so gone to me, i have come up with this, closer to the way i originally had it written before posting, but not quite.

    i should go melt back into
    the southern gloam, i've barely
    ever had a friend.
    i have forward-faced
    the dream and it screamed
    like a scratch
    on my lens, i have
    no heart left for to mend.




    this is crazy. now i can hear it again, the old way. this is so nuts.

    anyway, i think the old way was just a little more interesting, for the last line. and screamed and heart at the ends....goes with the quaking. (not to give it away)


    i should go melt back into
    the southern gloam, i've barely
    ever had a friend.
    i have forward-faced
    the dream and it screamed
    like a scratch
    on my lens, i have no heart
    left " for to mend.


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  • From roach4994@roach4994@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (cheesetray) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Mon Aug 25 17:25:26 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.arts.poetry.comments

    cheesetray wrote:
    As Lady and I Look Out Tonight


    Stranded on the icy banks
    of a once fertile river's shore,
    where gods intervened
    and mandated, rCLWoman "
    thou shalt cry no morerCY

    she's all dressed
    in red, from her head
    to her feet, both mangled
    by all those jealous lies "
    be careful what you wish
    for you'll be stuck
    with talking fish for
    believing all those hopeless
    romantic sighs.

    carrying a guilt unbearably
    laden, an exogenous
    onus too ugly
    to be true.
    is there anything that could
    ever make me come
    to finally
    believe in you?

    did you really know who
    i am? you said you never
    got that far. did you finally
    figure out that long-gone girl
    of yours, whom you met
    on the red river shore?

    but even more of a mystery, is
    who " was that
    barefooted man? what
    ground there was he
    standing on? who threw it "
    full of sand?

    the river overflowed on
    sands with silt, the dream sank
    naturally into her blood.
    was she a woman
    " or a creature?
    they knew not how
    to teach her
    on their road, now all but mud.

    the only sound left that i
    can hear, is your clock which
    no more can be wound.
    what kind of man are you,
    with no more life-times
    left, to leave me abandoned
    on your mound?

    the door slammed shut straight "
    into my petrified face
    my heart quaking, it blew my body
    and your memory away.
    i turned, then, just as soon "
    peered into your motorcycle room,
    and thought you were telling me
    that i could stay.

    i thought it was sweet, that you
    had planned this meet,
    that you "
    were in charge of it all.
    since i believed in
    my love for you, that we
    would never be through,
    before i left, i ran "
    for you to do
    concentric cartwheels
    " in your galactic backyard.

    there's them,
    then you and me
    you know i can barely see
    nobody really gives too much
    of a damn. i tried so hard
    to tell you, i shot it
    to you, through and
    through, but
    we were both running,
    on the lam.

    from red, down into black,
    darkness setting, with the sun "
    we know you have
    no more lifetimes left "
    and we all know
    that you're the one.

    is there anyone else
    that knows? you're the only
    one who really cares.
    maybe the time
    now calls for silence "
    to stop hawking all my wares.

    i thought that you were gone,
    my friend.
    you were lost to me,
    gone and out. what good
    does that do for us?
    for you to futz around
    and pout?

    are we sharing the same
    dream? i always
    thought we were. because
    of you, i thought
    inside myself, that maybe i
    could be the cure.

    but at what cost did
    this all go down?
    i can't do this without you.
    you know i never left you.
    i stuck to you like glue.

    i'm lost without
    a purpose.
    i'm lost without a goal.
    the bitter winds
    blow in my face, i'm torn "
    and broken off from
    the whole.

    i should melt back into
    the southern gloam,
    i've barely ever had a friend.
    i forward-faced
    the dream, it screams
    like a scratch on my lens,
    i have no heart
    left " for to mend.


    -H.C.
    8.24.25



    okay, after doing this all day....


    As Lady and I Look Out Tonight


    stranded on the icy banks
    of a once fertile river's shore,
    where gods intervened
    and mandated, rCLwoman "
    thou shalt cry no morerCY

    she's all dressed
    in red, from her head
    to her feet,
    both mangled by all those
    jealous lies "
    be careful what you wish
    for you'll be stuck
    with talking fish, for believing
    all those hopeless
    romantic "
    drawn-out sighs.

    carrying a guilt unbearably
    laden, an exogenous
    onus too ugly
    to be true "
    is there anything that could
    ever make me come
    to finally
    believe in you?

    did you really know
    who i am? you said you
    never
    got that far.
    did you finally figure out
    that long-gone girl
    of yours,
    whom you met
    on the red river shore?

    but even more of a mystery, is
    who " was that
    barefooted man? what ground
    there was he
    standing on? who threw it "
    full of sand?

    the river overflowed on
    sands, with silt,
    the dream sank naturally into
    her blood.
    was she a woman
    " or a creature?
    they knew not
    how to teach her
    on their road, now all but mud.

    the only sound left, that i
    can hear, is your clock "
    which no more
    can be wound. what kind of man
    are you, with no more
    life-times left, to leave me
    abandoned
    on your mound?

    the door slammed shut straight "
    into my petrified face,
    my heart quaking, it blew my body
    and your memory away.
    i turned,
    then, just as soon "
    peered into your motorcycle room,
    and thought you were
    telling me
    that i could stay.

    i thought it was sweet, that you
    had planned this meet,
    that you "
    were in charge, of it all.
    because of my love for you
    i knew we would never
    be through,
    before i left, i ran "
    for you, to do concentric cartwheels
    " in your galactic backyard.

    there's them, then you
    and me. you know
    i can barely see, and nobody
    really gives too much
    of a damn. i tried
    so hard " to tell you,
    i shot it to you,
    through and through, but we
    were both running on "
    the lam.

    from red, down into black,
    darkness setting, with the sun "
    we know you have
    no more lifetimes left "
    and we all know
    that you're the one.

    is there anyone else "
    that knows? you're the only
    one who really cares.
    maybe the time
    now calls for silence "
    to stop hawking all my wares.

    i thought that you were
    gone, my friend. you were
    lost to me, gone
    and out. what good does
    that do for us?
    for you to futz around
    and pout?

    are we sharing the same
    dream? i always
    thought we were. because
    of you, i thought
    inside myself, that maybe i
    could be the cure.

    but at what cost did
    this all go down?
    i can't do this without you.
    you know i never left you.
    i stuck to you like glue.

    i'm lost without
    a purpose.
    i'm lost without a goal.
    the bitter winds
    blow in my face, i'm torn "
    and broken off from
    the whole.

    i should go melt back into
    the southern gloam, i've barely
    ever had a friend.
    i have forward-faced
    the dream and it screamed
    like a scratch
    on my lens, i have no heart
    left " for to mend.


    -H.C.
    8.24.25


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  • From roach4994@roach4994@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (cheesetray) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Mon Aug 25 17:51:02 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.arts.poetry.comments

    cheesetray wrote:
    okay, after doing this all day....


    As Lady and I Look Out Tonight


    stranded on the icy banks
    of a once fertile river's shore,
    where gods intervened
    and mandated, rCLwoman "
    thou shalt cry no morerCY

    she's all dressed
    in red, from her head
    to her feet,
    both mangled by all those
    jealous lies "
    be careful what you wish
    for you'll be stuck
    with talking fish, for believing
    all those hopeless
    romantic "
    drawn-out sighs.

    carrying a guilt unbearably
    laden, an exogenous
    onus too ugly
    to be true "
    is there anything that could
    ever make me come
    to finally
    believe in you?

    did you really know
    who i am? you said you
    never
    got that far.
    did you finally figure out
    that long-gone girl
    of yours,
    whom you met
    on the red river shore?

    but even more of a mystery, is
    who " was that
    barefooted man? what ground
    there was he
    standing on? who threw it "
    full of sand?

    the river overflowed on
    sands, with silt,
    the dream sank naturally into
    her blood.
    was she a woman
    " or a creature?
    they knew not
    how to teach her
    on their road, now all but mud.

    the only sound left, that i
    can hear, is your clock "
    which no more
    can be wound. what kind of man
    are you, with no more
    life-times left, to leave me
    abandoned
    on your mound?

    the door slammed shut straight "
    into my petrified face,
    my heart quaking, it blew my body
    and your memory away.
    i turned,
    then, just as soon "
    peered into your motorcycle room,
    and thought you were
    telling me
    that i could stay.

    i thought it was sweet, that you
    had planned this meet,
    that you "
    were in charge, of it all.
    because of my love for you
    i knew we would never
    be through,
    before i left, i ran "
    for you, to do concentric cartwheels
    " in your galactic backyard.

    there's them, then you
    and me. you know
    i can barely see, and nobody
    really gives too much
    of a damn. i tried
    so hard " to tell you,
    i shot it to you,
    through and through, but we
    were both running on "
    the lam.

    from red, down into black,
    darkness setting, with the sun "
    we know you have
    no more lifetimes left "
    and we all know
    that you're the one.

    is there anyone else "
    that knows? you're the only
    one who really cares.
    maybe the time
    now calls for silence "
    to stop hawking all my wares.

    i thought that you were
    gone, my friend. you were
    lost to me, gone
    and out. what good does
    that do for us?
    for you to futz around
    and pout?

    are we sharing the same
    dream? i always
    thought we were. because
    of you, i thought
    inside myself, that maybe i
    could be the cure.

    but at what cost did
    this all go down?
    i can't do this without you.
    you know i never left you.
    i stuck to you like glue.

    i'm lost without
    a purpose.
    i'm lost without a goal.
    the bitter winds
    blow in my face, i'm torn "
    and broken off from
    the whole.

    i should go melt back into
    the southern gloam, i've barely
    ever had a friend.
    i have forward-faced
    the dream and it screamed
    like a scratch
    on my lens, i have no heart
    left " for to mend.


    -H.C.
    8.24.25




    this is so embararassing. it's not how i was hearing it in my head!

    this part fixed:

    she's all dressed
    in red, from her head
    to her feet,
    both mangled by all those
    jealous lies "
    be careful what you wish for
    you'll be stuck
    with talking fish for
    believing all those hopeless
    romantic "
    drawn-out sighs.


    This is a response to the post seen at: http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=694942858#694942858
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  • From roach4994@roach4994@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (cheesetray) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Mon Aug 25 18:05:32 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.arts.poetry.comments

    cheesetray wrote:
    As Lady and I Look Out Tonight


    Stranded on the icy banks
    of a once fertile river's shore,
    where gods intervened
    and mandated, rCLWoman "
    thou shalt cry no morerCY

    she's all dressed
    in red, from her head
    to her feet, both mangled
    by all those jealous lies "
    be careful what you wish
    for you'll be stuck
    with talking fish for
    believing all those hopeless
    romantic sighs.

    carrying a guilt unbearably
    laden, an exogenous
    onus too ugly
    to be true.
    is there anything that could
    ever make me come
    to finally
    believe in you?

    did you really know who
    i am? you said you never
    got that far. did you finally
    figure out that long-gone girl
    of yours, whom you met
    on the red river shore?

    but even more of a mystery, is
    who " was that
    barefooted man? what
    ground there was he
    standing on? who threw it "
    full of sand?

    the river overflowed on
    sands with silt, the dream sank
    naturally into her blood.
    was she a woman
    " or a creature?
    they knew not how
    to teach her
    on their road, now all but mud.

    the only sound left that i
    can hear, is your clock which
    no more can be wound.
    what kind of man are you,
    with no more life-times
    left, to leave me abandoned
    on your mound?

    the door slammed shut straight "
    into my petrified face
    my heart quaking, it blew my body
    and your memory away.
    i turned, then, just as soon "
    peered into your motorcycle room,
    and thought you were telling me
    that i could stay.

    i thought it was sweet, that you
    had planned this meet,
    that you "
    were in charge of it all.
    since i believed in
    my love for you, that we
    would never be through,
    before i left, i ran "
    for you to do
    concentric cartwheels
    " in your galactic backyard.

    there's them,
    then you and me
    you know i can barely see
    nobody really gives too much
    of a damn. i tried so hard
    to tell you, i shot it
    to you, through and
    through, but
    we were both running,
    on the lam.

    from red, down into black,
    darkness setting, with the sun "
    we know you have
    no more lifetimes left "
    and we all know
    that you're the one.

    is there anyone else
    that knows? you're the only
    one who really cares.
    maybe the time
    now calls for silence "
    to stop hawking all my wares.

    i thought that you were gone,
    my friend.
    you were lost to me,
    gone and out. what good
    does that do for us?
    for you to futz around
    and pout?

    are we sharing the same
    dream? i always
    thought we were. because
    of you, i thought
    inside myself, that maybe i
    could be the cure.

    but at what cost did
    this all go down?
    i can't do this without you.
    you know i never left you.
    i stuck to you like glue.

    i'm lost without
    a purpose.
    i'm lost without a goal.
    the bitter winds
    blow in my face, i'm torn "
    and broken off from
    the whole.

    i should melt back into
    the southern gloam,
    i've barely ever had a friend.
    i forward-faced
    the dream, it screams
    like a scratch on my lens,
    i have no heart
    left " for to mend.


    -H.C.
    8.24.25



    As Lady and I Look Out Tonight


    stranded on the icy banks
    of a once fertile river's shore,
    where gods intervened
    and mandated, rCLwoman "
    thou shalt cry no morerCY

    she's all dressed
    in red, from her head
    to her feet, both mangled
    by all those jealous lies "
    be careful what you wish for
    you'll be stuck with
    talking fish for, believing
    all those hopeless
    romantic "
    drawn-out sighs.

    carrying a guilt unbearably
    laden, an exogenous
    onus too ugly
    to be true "
    is there anything that could
    ever make me come
    to finally
    believe in you?

    did you really know
    who i am? you said you
    never
    got that far.
    did you finally figure out
    that long-gone girl
    of yours,
    whom you met
    on the red river shore?

    but even more of a mystery, is
    who " was that
    barefooted man? what ground
    there was he
    standing on? who threw it "
    full of sand?

    the river overflowed on
    sands, with silt,
    the dream sank naturally into
    her blood.
    was she a woman
    " or a creature?
    they knew not
    how to teach her
    on their road, now all but mud.

    the only sound left, that i
    can hear, is your clock "
    which no more
    can be wound. what kind of man
    are you, with no more
    life-times left, to leave me
    abandoned
    on your mound?

    the door slammed shut straight "
    into my petrified face,
    my heart quaking, it blew my body
    and your memory away.
    i turned,
    then, just as soon "
    peered into your motorcycle room,
    and thought you were
    telling me
    that i could stay.

    i thought it was sweet, that you
    had planned this meet,
    that you "
    were in charge, of it all.
    because of my love for you
    i knew we would never
    be through,
    before i left, i ran "
    for you, to do concentric cartwheels
    " in your galactic backyard.

    there's them, then you
    and me. you know
    i can barely see, and nobody
    really gives too much
    of a damn. i tried
    so hard " to tell you,
    i shot it to you,
    through and through, but we
    were both running on "
    the lam.

    from red, down into black,
    darkness setting, with the sun "
    we know you have
    no more lifetimes left "
    and we all know
    that you're the one.

    is there anyone else "
    that knows? you're the only
    one who really cares.
    maybe the time
    now calls for silence "
    to stop hawking all my wares.

    i thought that you were
    gone, my friend. you were
    lost to me, gone
    and out. what good does
    that do for us?
    for you to futz around
    and pout?

    are we sharing the same
    dream? i always
    thought we were. because
    of you, i thought
    inside myself, that maybe i
    could be the cure.

    but at what cost did
    this all go down?
    i can't do this without you.
    you know i never left you.
    i stuck to you like glue.

    i'm lost without
    a purpose.
    i'm lost without a goal.
    the bitter winds
    blow in my face, i'm torn "
    and broken off from
    the whole.

    i should go melt back into
    the southern gloam, i've barely
    ever had a friend.
    i have forward-faced
    the dream and it screamed
    like a scratch
    on my lens, i have no heart
    left " for to mend.


    -H.C.
    8.24.25


    I know it's more sprawling than the original, but i truly feel it's better, for semantic reasons. i think it teases out better meanings.


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  • From roach4994@roach4994@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (cheesetray) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Mon Aug 25 18:49:44 2025
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    cheesetray wrote:
    As Lady and I Look Out Tonight


    Stranded on the icy banks
    of a once fertile river's shore,
    where gods intervened
    and mandated, rCLWoman "
    thou shalt cry no morerCY

    she's all dressed
    in red, from her head
    to her feet, both mangled
    by all those jealous lies "
    be careful what you wish
    for you'll be stuck
    with talking fish for
    believing all those hopeless
    romantic sighs.

    carrying a guilt unbearably
    laden, an exogenous
    onus too ugly
    to be true.
    is there anything that could
    ever make me come
    to finally
    believe in you?

    did you really know who
    i am? you said you never
    got that far. did you finally
    figure out that long-gone girl
    of yours, whom you met
    on the red river shore?

    but even more of a mystery, is
    who " was that
    barefooted man? what
    ground there was he
    standing on? who threw it "
    full of sand?

    the river overflowed on
    sands with silt, the dream sank
    naturally into her blood.
    was she a woman
    " or a creature?
    they knew not how
    to teach her
    on their road, now all but mud.

    the only sound left that i
    can hear, is your clock which
    no more can be wound.
    what kind of man are you,
    with no more life-times
    left, to leave me abandoned
    on your mound?

    the door slammed shut straight "
    into my petrified face
    my heart quaking, it blew my body
    and your memory away.
    i turned, then, just as soon "
    peered into your motorcycle room,
    and thought you were telling me
    that i could stay.

    i thought it was sweet, that you
    had planned this meet,
    that you "
    were in charge of it all.
    since i believed in
    my love for you, that we
    would never be through,
    before i left, i ran "
    for you to do
    concentric cartwheels
    " in your galactic backyard.

    there's them,
    then you and me
    you know i can barely see
    nobody really gives too much
    of a damn. i tried so hard
    to tell you, i shot it
    to you, through and
    through, but
    we were both running,
    on the lam.

    from red, down into black,
    darkness setting, with the sun "
    we know you have
    no more lifetimes left "
    and we all know
    that you're the one.

    is there anyone else
    that knows? you're the only
    one who really cares.
    maybe the time
    now calls for silence "
    to stop hawking all my wares.

    i thought that you were gone,
    my friend.
    you were lost to me,
    gone and out. what good
    does that do for us?
    for you to futz around
    and pout?

    are we sharing the same
    dream? i always
    thought we were. because
    of you, i thought
    inside myself, that maybe i
    could be the cure.

    but at what cost did
    this all go down?
    i can't do this without you.
    you know i never left you.
    i stuck to you like glue.

    i'm lost without
    a purpose.
    i'm lost without a goal.
    the bitter winds
    blow in my face, i'm torn "
    and broken off from
    the whole.

    i should melt back into
    the southern gloam,
    i've barely ever had a friend.
    i forward-faced
    the dream, it screams
    like a scratch on my lens,
    i have no heart
    left " for to mend.


    -H.C.
    8.24.25



    this is so dumb. i screwed it all up. i was going back over the first one here, and since it looked better, i started doubting my new one, and changed it a little just before posting and it's not what i really wanted.

    As Lady and I Look Out Tonight


    stranded on the icy banks
    of a once fertile river's shore,
    where gods intervened
    and mandated, rCLwoman "
    thou shalt cry no morerCY

    she's all dressed
    in red, from her head
    to her feet,
    both mangled, by all those
    jealous lies "
    be careful what you wish for
    you'll be stuck with
    talking fish for, believing
    all those hopeless
    romantic "
    drawn-out sighs.

    carrying a guilt unbearably
    laden, an exogenous
    onus too ugly
    to be true "
    is there anything that could
    ever make me come
    to finally
    believe in you?

    did you really know
    who i am? you said you
    never
    got that far.
    did you finally figure out
    that long-gone girl
    of yours,
    whom you met
    on the red river shore?

    but even more of a mystery, is
    who " was that
    barefooted man? what ground
    there was he
    standing on? who threw it "
    full of sand?

    the river overflowed on
    sands, with silt,
    the dream sank naturally into
    her blood.
    was she a woman
    " or a creature?
    they knew not how
    to teach her
    on their road, now all
    but mud.

    the only sound left, that i
    can hear, is your clock "
    which no more
    can be wound. what kind of man
    are you, with no more
    life-times left, to leave me
    abandoned
    on your mound?

    the door slammed shut straight "
    into my petrified face,
    my heart quaking, it blew my body
    and your memory away.
    i turned,
    then, just as soon "
    peered into your motorcycle room,
    and thought you were
    telling me
    that i could stay.

    i thought it was sweet, that you
    had planned this meet,
    that you "
    were in charge, of it all.
    because of my love for you
    i knew we would never
    be through,
    before i left, i ran "
    for you, to do concentric cartwheels
    " in your galactic backyard.

    there's them, then you
    and me. you know
    i can barely see, and nobody
    really gives too much
    of a damn. i tried
    so hard " to tell you,
    i shot it to you,
    through and through, but we
    were both running on "
    the lam.

    from red, down into black,
    darkness setting, with the sun "
    we know you have
    no more lifetimes left "
    and we all know
    that you're the one.

    is there anyone else "
    that knows? you're the only
    one who really cares.
    maybe the time
    now calls for silence "
    to stop hawking all my wares.

    i thought that you were
    gone, my friend. you were
    lost to me, gone
    and out. what good does
    that do for us?
    for you to futz around
    and pout?

    are we sharing the same
    dream? i always
    thought we were. because
    of you, i thought
    inside myself, that maybe i
    could be the cure.

    but at what cost did
    this all go down?
    i can't do this without you.
    you know i never left you.
    i stuck to you like glue.

    i'm lost without
    a purpose.
    i'm lost without a goal.
    the bitter winds
    blow in my face, i'm torn "
    and broken off from
    the whole.

    i should go melt back into
    the southern gloam, i've barely
    ever had a friend.
    i have forward-faced
    the dream and it screamed
    like a scratch
    on my lens, i have no heart
    left " for to mend.


    -H.C.
    8.24.25


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  • From roach4994@roach4994@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (cheesetray) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Mon Aug 25 18:54:58 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.arts.poetry.comments

    cheesetray wrote:
    this is so dumb. i screwed it all up. i was going back over the first one here, and since it looked better, i started doubting my new one, and changed it a little just before posting and it's not what i really wanted.

    As Lady and I Look Out Tonight


    stranded on the icy banks
    of a once fertile river's shore,
    where gods intervened
    and mandated, rCLwoman "
    thou shalt cry no morerCY

    she's all dressed
    in red, from her head
    to her feet,
    both mangled, by all those
    jealous lies "
    be careful what you wish for
    you'll be stuck with
    talking fish for, believing
    all those hopeless
    romantic "
    drawn-out sighs.

    carrying a guilt unbearably
    laden, an exogenous
    onus too ugly
    to be true "
    is there anything that could
    ever make me come
    to finally
    believe in you?

    did you really know
    who i am? you said you
    never
    got that far.
    did you finally figure out
    that long-gone girl
    of yours,
    whom you met
    on the red river shore?

    but even more of a mystery, is
    who " was that
    barefooted man? what ground
    there was he
    standing on? who threw it "
    full of sand?

    the river overflowed on
    sands, with silt,
    the dream sank naturally into
    her blood.
    was she a woman
    " or a creature?
    they knew not how
    to teach her
    on their road, now all
    but mud.

    the only sound left, that i
    can hear, is your clock "
    which no more
    can be wound. what kind of man
    are you, with no more
    life-times left, to leave me
    abandoned
    on your mound?

    the door slammed shut straight "
    into my petrified face,
    my heart quaking, it blew my body
    and your memory away.
    i turned,
    then, just as soon "
    peered into your motorcycle room,
    and thought you were
    telling me
    that i could stay.

    i thought it was sweet, that you
    had planned this meet,
    that you "
    were in charge, of it all.
    because of my love for you
    i knew we would never
    be through,
    before i left, i ran "
    for you, to do concentric cartwheels
    " in your galactic backyard.

    there's them, then you
    and me. you know
    i can barely see, and nobody
    really gives too much
    of a damn. i tried
    so hard " to tell you,
    i shot it to you,
    through and through, but we
    were both running on "
    the lam.

    from red, down into black,
    darkness setting, with the sun "
    we know you have
    no more lifetimes left "
    and we all know
    that you're the one.

    is there anyone else "
    that knows? you're the only
    one who really cares.
    maybe the time
    now calls for silence "
    to stop hawking all my wares.

    i thought that you were
    gone, my friend. you were
    lost to me, gone
    and out. what good does
    that do for us?
    for you to futz around
    and pout?

    are we sharing the same
    dream? i always
    thought we were. because
    of you, i thought
    inside myself, that maybe i
    could be the cure.

    but at what cost did
    this all go down?
    i can't do this without you.
    you know i never left you.
    i stuck to you like glue.

    i'm lost without
    a purpose.
    i'm lost without a goal.
    the bitter winds
    blow in my face, i'm torn "
    and broken off from
    the whole.

    i should go melt back into
    the southern gloam, i've barely
    ever had a friend.
    i have forward-faced
    the dream and it screamed
    like a scratch
    on my lens, i have no heart
    left " for to mend.


    -H.C.
    8.24.25




    THERE! I LIKE IT! gosh i wonder about that one i lost though. see, i learned never open up recents, don't mess with recents, i'm confused about it, but it seems to miss the last one you have just closed, i'm not sure what it is, but i just don't trust it. same as how you shouldn't go into the library yourself, unless you really know what you are doing. you can really f up your computer, that's what mom says. (computer programmer since the 60s, now an academic, and taking lots of art classes. she's the real artist, not i.)


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  • From will.dockery@will.dockery@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (Will-Dockery) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Mon Aug 25 19:11:59 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.arts.poetry.comments

    cheesetray wrote:

    cheesetray wrote:
    this is so dumb. i screwed it all up. i was going back over the first one here, and since it looked better, i started doubting my new one, and changed it a little just before posting and it's not what i really wanted.

    As Lady and I Look Out Tonight


    stranded on the icy banks
    of a once fertile river's shore,
    where gods intervened
    and mandated, rCLwoman "
    thou shalt cry no morerCY

    she's all dressed
    in red, from her head
    to her feet,
    both mangled, by all those
    jealous lies "
    be careful what you wish for
    you'll be stuck with
    talking fish for, believing
    all those hopeless
    romantic "
    drawn-out sighs.

    carrying a guilt unbearably
    laden, an exogenous
    onus too ugly
    to be true "
    is there anything that could
    ever make me come
    to finally
    believe in you?

    did you really know
    who i am? you said you
    never
    got that far.
    did you finally figure out
    that long-gone girl
    of yours,
    whom you met
    on the red river shore?

    but even more of a mystery, is
    who " was that
    barefooted man? what ground
    there was he
    standing on? who threw it "
    full of sand?

    the river overflowed on
    sands, with silt,
    the dream sank naturally into
    her blood.
    was she a woman
    " or a creature?
    they knew not how
    to teach her
    on their road, now all
    but mud.

    the only sound left, that i
    can hear, is your clock "
    which no more
    can be wound. what kind of man
    are you, with no more
    life-times left, to leave me
    abandoned
    on your mound?

    the door slammed shut straight "
    into my petrified face,
    my heart quaking, it blew my body
    and your memory away.
    i turned,
    then, just as soon "
    peered into your motorcycle room,
    and thought you were
    telling me
    that i could stay.

    i thought it was sweet, that you
    had planned this meet,
    that you "
    were in charge, of it all.
    because of my love for you
    i knew we would never
    be through,
    before i left, i ran "
    for you, to do concentric cartwheels
    " in your galactic backyard.

    there's them, then you
    and me. you know
    i can barely see, and nobody
    really gives too much
    of a damn. i tried
    so hard " to tell you,
    i shot it to you,
    through and through, but we
    were both running on "
    the lam.

    from red, down into black,
    darkness setting, with the sun "
    we know you have
    no more lifetimes left "
    and we all know
    that you're the one.

    is there anyone else "
    that knows? you're the only
    one who really cares.
    maybe the time
    now calls for silence "
    to stop hawking all my wares.

    i thought that you were
    gone, my friend. you were
    lost to me, gone
    and out. what good does
    that do for us?
    for you to futz around
    and pout?

    are we sharing the same
    dream? i always
    thought we were. because
    of you, i thought
    inside myself, that maybe i
    could be the cure.

    but at what cost did
    this all go down?
    i can't do this without you.
    you know i never left you.
    i stuck to you like glue.

    i'm lost without
    a purpose.
    i'm lost without a goal.
    the bitter winds
    blow in my face, i'm torn "
    and broken off from
    the whole.

    i should go melt back into
    the southern gloam, i've barely
    ever had a friend.
    i have forward-faced
    the dream and it screamed
    like a scratch
    on my lens, i have no heart
    left " for to mend.


    -H.C.
    8.24.25



    THERE! I LIKE IT! gosh i wonder about that one i lost though. see, i learned never open up recents, don't mess with recents, i'm confused about it, but it seems to miss the last one you have just closed, i'm not sure what it is, but i just don't trust it. same as how you shouldn't go into the library yourself, unless you really know what you are doing. you can really f up your computer, that's what mom says. (computer programmer since the 60s, now an academic, and taking lots of art classes. she's the real artist, not i.)



    Definitely agreed.

    Also glad to hear that your mother seems to be doing well.

    EfOA


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  • From will.dockery@will.dockery@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (Will-Dockery) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Mon Aug 25 19:50:38 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.arts.poetry.comments

    cheesetray wrote:
    this is so dumb. i screwed it all up. i was going back over the first one here, and since it looked better, i started doubting my new one, and changed it a little just before posting and it's not what i really wanted.

    As Lady and I Look Out Tonight


    stranded on the icy banks
    of a once fertile river's shore,
    where gods intervened
    and mandated, rCLwoman "
    thou shalt cry no morerCY

    she's all dressed
    in red, from her head
    to her feet,
    both mangled, by all those
    jealous lies "
    be careful what you wish for
    you'll be stuck with
    talking fish for, believing
    all those hopeless
    romantic "
    drawn-out sighs.

    carrying a guilt unbearably
    laden, an exogenous
    onus too ugly
    to be true "
    is there anything that could
    ever make me come
    to finally
    believe in you?

    did you really know
    who i am? you said you
    never
    got that far.
    did you finally figure out
    that long-gone girl
    of yours,
    whom you met
    on the red river shore?

    but even more of a mystery, is
    who " was that
    barefooted man? what ground
    there was he
    standing on? who threw it "
    full of sand?

    the river overflowed on
    sands, with silt,
    the dream sank naturally into
    her blood.
    was she a woman
    " or a creature?
    they knew not how
    to teach her
    on their road, now all
    but mud.

    the only sound left, that i
    can hear, is your clock "
    which no more
    can be wound. what kind of man
    are you, with no more
    life-times left, to leave me
    abandoned
    on your mound?

    the door slammed shut straight "
    into my petrified face,
    my heart quaking, it blew my body
    and your memory away.
    i turned,
    then, just as soon "
    peered into your motorcycle room,
    and thought you were
    telling me
    that i could stay.

    i thought it was sweet, that you
    had planned this meet,
    that you "
    were in charge, of it all.
    because of my love for you
    i knew we would never
    be through,
    before i left, i ran "
    for you, to do concentric cartwheels
    " in your galactic backyard.

    there's them, then you
    and me. you know
    i can barely see, and nobody
    really gives too much
    of a damn. i tried
    so hard " to tell you,
    i shot it to you,
    through and through, but we
    were both running on "
    the lam.

    from red, down into black,
    darkness setting, with the sun "
    we know you have
    no more lifetimes left "
    and we all know
    that you're the one.

    is there anyone else "
    that knows? you're the only
    one who really cares.
    maybe the time
    now calls for silence "
    to stop hawking all my wares.

    i thought that you were
    gone, my friend. you were
    lost to me, gone
    and out. what good does
    that do for us?
    for you to futz around
    and pout?

    are we sharing the same
    dream? i always
    thought we were. because
    of you, i thought
    inside myself, that maybe i
    could be the cure.

    but at what cost did
    this all go down?
    i can't do this without you.
    you know i never left you.
    i stuck to you like glue.

    i'm lost without
    a purpose.
    i'm lost without a goal.
    the bitter winds
    blow in my face, i'm torn "
    and broken off from
    the whole.

    i should go melt back into
    the southern gloam, i've barely
    ever had a friend.
    i have forward-faced
    the dream and it screamed
    like a scratch
    on my lens, i have no heart
    left " for to mend.


    -H.C.
    8.24.25



    So many versions, difficult to keep track.


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  • From roach4994@roach4994@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (cheesetray) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Mon Aug 25 20:24:30 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.arts.poetry.comments

    Will-Dockery wrote:

    cheesetray wrote:

    cheesetray wrote:
    this is so dumb. i screwed it all up. i was going back over the first one here, and since it looked better, i started doubting my new one, and changed it a little just before posting and it's not what i really wanted.

    As Lady and I Look Out Tonight


    stranded on the icy banks
    of a once fertile river's shore,
    where gods intervened
    and mandated, rCLwoman "
    thou shalt cry no morerCY

    she's all dressed
    in red, from her head
    to her feet,
    both mangled, by all those
    jealous lies "
    be careful what you wish for
    you'll be stuck with
    talking fish for, believing
    all those hopeless
    romantic "
    drawn-out sighs.

    carrying a guilt unbearably
    laden, an exogenous
    onus too ugly
    to be true "
    is there anything that could
    ever make me come
    to finally
    believe in you?

    did you really know
    who i am? you said you
    never
    got that far.
    did you finally figure out
    that long-gone girl
    of yours,
    whom you met
    on the red river shore?

    but even more of a mystery, is
    who " was that
    barefooted man? what ground
    there was he
    standing on? who threw it "
    full of sand?

    the river overflowed on
    sands, with silt,
    the dream sank naturally into
    her blood.
    was she a woman
    " or a creature?
    they knew not how
    to teach her
    on their road, now all
    but mud.

    the only sound left, that i
    can hear, is your clock "
    which no more
    can be wound. what kind of man
    are you, with no more
    life-times left, to leave me
    abandoned
    on your mound?

    the door slammed shut straight "
    into my petrified face,
    my heart quaking, it blew my body
    and your memory away.
    i turned,
    then, just as soon "
    peered into your motorcycle room,
    and thought you were
    telling me
    that i could stay.

    i thought it was sweet, that you
    had planned this meet,
    that you "
    were in charge, of it all.
    because of my love for you
    i knew we would never
    be through,
    before i left, i ran "
    for you, to do concentric cartwheels
    " in your galactic backyard.

    there's them, then you
    and me. you know
    i can barely see, and nobody
    really gives too much
    of a damn. i tried
    so hard " to tell you,
    i shot it to you,
    through and through, but we
    were both running on "
    the lam.

    from red, down into black,
    darkness setting, with the sun "
    we know you have
    no more lifetimes left "
    and we all know
    that you're the one.

    is there anyone else "
    that knows? you're the only
    one who really cares.
    maybe the time
    now calls for silence "
    to stop hawking all my wares.

    i thought that you were
    gone, my friend. you were
    lost to me, gone
    and out. what good does
    that do for us?
    for you to futz around
    and pout?

    are we sharing the same
    dream? i always
    thought we were. because
    of you, i thought
    inside myself, that maybe i
    could be the cure.

    but at what cost did
    this all go down?
    i can't do this without you.
    you know i never left you.
    i stuck to you like glue.

    i'm lost without
    a purpose.
    i'm lost without a goal.
    the bitter winds
    blow in my face, i'm torn "
    and broken off from
    the whole.

    i should go melt back into
    the southern gloam, i've barely
    ever had a friend.
    i have forward-faced
    the dream and it screamed
    like a scratch
    on my lens, i have no heart
    left " for to mend.


    -H.C.
    8.24.25



    THERE! I LIKE IT! gosh i wonder about that one i lost though. see, i learned never open up recents, don't mess with recents, i'm confused about it, but it seems to miss the last one you have just closed, i'm not sure what it is, but i just don't trust it. same as how you shouldn't go into the library yourself, unless you really know what you are doing. you can really f up your computer, that's what mom says. (computer programmer since the 60s, now an academic, and taking lots of art classes. she's the real artist, not i.)


    Definitely agreed.

    Also glad to hear that your mother seems to be doing well.

    EfOA




    yay, you managed to copy my latest version, not only and always the first, which i usually start futzing with again after posting!

    okay, i decided, what if i tighten the whole thing (back?) up?

    this is what it looks like - i just thought it was too dense, hard to follow/read, and boring (in structure), but the sprawling ones were too choppy, musically, if you followed it all exactly, instead of kinda rushing through, and listening to your better head. but then, that just means it's really only decorative, according to my specious source.


    As Lady and I Look Out Tonight


    stranded on the icy banks
    of a once fertile river's shore,
    where gods intervened
    and mandated, rCLwoman "
    thou shalt cry no morerCY

    she's all dressed in red, from
    her head to her feet,
    both mangled, by all those
    jealous lies "be careful
    what you wish for
    you'll be stuck with
    talking fish for, believing
    all those hopeless romantic "
    drawn-out sighs.

    carrying a guilt unbearably laden,
    an exogenous onus too ugly
    to be true "is there anything
    that could ever make me come
    to finally believe in you?

    did you really know who i am?
    you said you " never
    got that far. did you finally
    figure out, that long-gone girl
    of yours, whom you met
    on the red river shore?

    but even more of a mystery, is
    who " was that barefooted
    man? what ground there was he
    standing on? who threw it "
    full of sand?

    the river overflowed on
    sands, with silt, the dream sank
    naturally, into her blood.
    was she a woman
    " or a creature? they knew not
    how to teach her, on their road,
    now all but mud.

    the only sound left, that i
    can hear, is your clock "
    which no more can be wound.
    what kind of man are you,
    with no more life-times left,
    to leave me abandoned
    on your mound?

    the door slammed shut straight "
    into my petrified face,
    my heart quaking, it blew my body
    and your memory away.
    i turned, then, just as soon "
    peered into your motorcycle room,
    and thought you were telling me
    that i could stay.

    i thought it was sweet, that you
    had planned this meet, that you "
    were in charge, of it all.
    because of my love for you
    i knew we would never be through,
    before i left, i ran "for you,
    to do concentric cartwheels
    " in your galactic backyard.

    there's them, then you and me.
    you know i can barely see,
    and nobody really gives
    too much of a damn.
    i tried so hard " to tell you,
    i shot it to you, through and
    through, but we were both
    running on the lam.

    from red, down into black,
    darkness setting, with the sun "
    we know you have no more
    lifetimes left, and we all know
    that you're the one.

    is there anyone else that knows?
    you're the only one who
    really cares. maybe the time
    now calls for silence "
    to stop hawking all my wares.

    i thought that you were
    gone, my friend. you were
    lost to me, gone and out.
    what good does that do
    for us? for you to futz
    around and pout?

    are we sharing the same
    dream? i always thought
    we were. because of you,
    i thought inside myself,
    that maybe i could be
    " the cure.

    but at what cost did "
    this all go down?
    i can't do this without you.
    you know i never left you.
    i stuck to you like glue.

    i'm lost without a purpose.
    i'm lost without a goal.
    the bitter winds blow "
    in my face, i'm torn and
    broken off from the whole.

    i should go melt back into
    the southern gloam, i've barely
    ever had a friend.
    i have forward-faced
    the dream and it screamed
    like a scratch
    on my lens, i have no heart
    left " for to mend.


    -H.C.
    8.24.25


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  • From roach4994@roach4994@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (cheesetray) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Mon Aug 25 20:31:17 2025
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    cheesetray wrote:
    As Lady and I Look Out Tonight


    Stranded on the icy banks
    of a once fertile river's shore,
    where gods intervened
    and mandated, rCLWoman "
    thou shalt cry no morerCY

    she's all dressed
    in red, from her head
    to her feet, both mangled
    by all those jealous lies "
    be careful what you wish
    for you'll be stuck
    with talking fish for
    believing all those hopeless
    romantic sighs.

    carrying a guilt unbearably
    laden, an exogenous
    onus too ugly
    to be true.
    is there anything that could
    ever make me come
    to finally
    believe in you?

    did you really know who
    i am? you said you never
    got that far. did you finally
    figure out that long-gone girl
    of yours, whom you met
    on the red river shore?

    but even more of a mystery, is
    who " was that
    barefooted man? what
    ground there was he
    standing on? who threw it "
    full of sand?

    the river overflowed on
    sands with silt, the dream sank
    naturally into her blood.
    was she a woman
    " or a creature?
    they knew not how
    to teach her
    on their road, now all but mud.

    the only sound left that i
    can hear, is your clock which
    no more can be wound.
    what kind of man are you,
    with no more life-times
    left, to leave me abandoned
    on your mound?

    the door slammed shut straight "
    into my petrified face
    my heart quaking, it blew my body
    and your memory away.
    i turned, then, just as soon "
    peered into your motorcycle room,
    and thought you were telling me
    that i could stay.

    i thought it was sweet, that you
    had planned this meet,
    that you "
    were in charge of it all.
    since i believed in
    my love for you, that we
    would never be through,
    before i left, i ran "
    for you to do
    concentric cartwheels
    " in your galactic backyard.

    there's them,
    then you and me
    you know i can barely see
    nobody really gives too much
    of a damn. i tried so hard
    to tell you, i shot it
    to you, through and
    through, but
    we were both running,
    on the lam.

    from red, down into black,
    darkness setting, with the sun "
    we know you have
    no more lifetimes left "
    and we all know
    that you're the one.

    is there anyone else
    that knows? you're the only
    one who really cares.
    maybe the time
    now calls for silence "
    to stop hawking all my wares.

    i thought that you were gone,
    my friend.
    you were lost to me,
    gone and out. what good
    does that do for us?
    for you to futz around
    and pout?

    are we sharing the same
    dream? i always
    thought we were. because
    of you, i thought
    inside myself, that maybe i
    could be the cure.

    but at what cost did
    this all go down?
    i can't do this without you.
    you know i never left you.
    i stuck to you like glue.

    i'm lost without
    a purpose.
    i'm lost without a goal.
    the bitter winds
    blow in my face, i'm torn "
    and broken off from
    the whole.

    i should melt back into
    the southern gloam,
    i've barely ever had a friend.
    i forward-faced
    the dream, it screams
    like a scratch on my lens,
    i have no heart
    left " for to mend.


    -H.C.
    8.24.25



    which one so far is your favorite, will dockery? out of all that i've posted....if you have had time yet, to peruse them over a cuppa (as smoky would always say to mom, aka "babes") (cuppa coffee, that is) he'd say, "babes, how about a cuppa?" sometimes, in the middle of the day.


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  • From roach4994@roach4994@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (cheesetray) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Mon Aug 25 22:51:24 2025
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    cheesetray wrote:
    As Lady and I Look Out Tonight


    Stranded on the icy banks
    of a once fertile river's shore,
    where gods intervened
    and mandated, rCLWoman "
    thou shalt cry no morerCY

    she's all dressed
    in red, from her head
    to her feet, both mangled
    by all those jealous lies "
    be careful what you wish
    for you'll be stuck
    with talking fish for
    believing all those hopeless
    romantic sighs.

    carrying a guilt unbearably
    laden, an exogenous
    onus too ugly
    to be true.
    is there anything that could
    ever make me come
    to finally
    believe in you?

    did you really know who
    i am? you said you never
    got that far. did you finally
    figure out that long-gone girl
    of yours, whom you met
    on the red river shore?

    but even more of a mystery, is
    who " was that
    barefooted man? what
    ground there was he
    standing on? who threw it "
    full of sand?

    the river overflowed on
    sands with silt, the dream sank
    naturally into her blood.
    was she a woman
    " or a creature?
    they knew not how
    to teach her
    on their road, now all but mud.

    the only sound left that i
    can hear, is your clock which
    no more can be wound.
    what kind of man are you,
    with no more life-times
    left, to leave me abandoned
    on your mound?

    the door slammed shut straight "
    into my petrified face
    my heart quaking, it blew my body
    and your memory away.
    i turned, then, just as soon "
    peered into your motorcycle room,
    and thought you were telling me
    that i could stay.

    i thought it was sweet, that you
    had planned this meet,
    that you "
    were in charge of it all.
    since i believed in
    my love for you, that we
    would never be through,
    before i left, i ran "
    for you to do
    concentric cartwheels
    " in your galactic backyard.

    there's them,
    then you and me
    you know i can barely see
    nobody really gives too much
    of a damn. i tried so hard
    to tell you, i shot it
    to you, through and
    through, but
    we were both running,
    on the lam.

    from red, down into black,
    darkness setting, with the sun "
    we know you have
    no more lifetimes left "
    and we all know
    that you're the one.

    is there anyone else
    that knows? you're the only
    one who really cares.
    maybe the time
    now calls for silence "
    to stop hawking all my wares.

    i thought that you were gone,
    my friend.
    you were lost to me,
    gone and out. what good
    does that do for us?
    for you to futz around
    and pout?

    are we sharing the same
    dream? i always
    thought we were. because
    of you, i thought
    inside myself, that maybe i
    could be the cure.

    but at what cost did
    this all go down?
    i can't do this without you.
    you know i never left you.
    i stuck to you like glue.

    i'm lost without
    a purpose.
    i'm lost without a goal.
    the bitter winds
    blow in my face, i'm torn "
    and broken off from
    the whole.

    i should melt back into
    the southern gloam,
    i've barely ever had a friend.
    i forward-faced
    the dream, it screams
    like a scratch on my lens,
    i have no heart
    left " for to mend.


    -H.C.
    8.24.25



    anybody? preferences? comments? mass destruction?


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  • From roach4994@roach4994@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (cheesetray) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Mon Aug 25 23:54:17 2025
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    cheesetray wrote:
    anybody? preferences? comments? mass destruction?



    here's another one for the ending:

    i should go melt back into
    the southern gloam,
    i've barely ever had a friend.
    i have forward-faced the dream
    and it screamed like a scratch
    on my lens, i have no heart
    left " for to mend.


    -H.C.
    8.24.25


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  • From will.dockery@will.dockery@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (Will-Dockery) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Tue Aug 26 01:06:38 2025
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    cheesetray wrote:

    cheesetray wrote:
    anybody? preferences? comments? mass destruction?


    here's another one for the ending:

    i should go melt back into
    the southern gloam,
    i've barely ever had a friend.
    i have forward-faced the dream
    and it screamed like a scratch
    on my lens, i have no heart
    left " for to mend.


    -H.C.
    8.24.25



    Beautiful ending, and loved the use of "gloam" here.


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  • From roach4994@roach4994@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (cheesetray) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Tue Aug 26 07:06:16 2025
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    Will-Dockery wrote:

    cheesetray wrote:

    cheesetray wrote:
    anybody? preferences? comments? mass destruction?


    here's another one for the ending:

    i should go melt back into
    the southern gloam,
    i've barely ever had a friend.
    i have forward-faced the dream
    and it screamed like a scratch
    on my lens, i have no heart
    left " for to mend.


    -H.C.
    8.24.25


    Beautiful ending, and loved the use of "gloam" here.




    do you have a favorite presentation yet?


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  • From will.dockery@will.dockery@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (Will-Dockery) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Tue Aug 26 09:45:03 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.arts.poetry.comments

    cheesetray wrote:

    Will-Dockery wrote:

    cheesetray wrote:

    cheesetray wrote:
    anybody? preferences? comments? mass destruction?


    here's another one for the ending:

    i should go melt back into
    the southern gloam,
    i've barely ever had a friend.
    i have forward-faced the dream
    and it screamed like a scratch
    on my lens, i have no heart
    left " for to mend.


    -H.C.
    8.24.25


    Beautiful ending, and loved the use of "gloam" here.



    do you have a favorite presentation yet?



    No, I'm not that far along yet.


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  • From will.dockery@will.dockery@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (Will-Dockery) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Tue Aug 26 09:55:15 2025
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    cheesetray wrote:
    As Lady and I Look Out Tonight


    Stranded on the icy banks
    of a once fertile river's shore,
    where gods intervened
    and mandated, rCLWoman "
    thou shalt cry no morerCY

    she's all dressed
    in red, from her head
    to her feet, both mangled
    by all those jealous lies "
    be careful what you wish
    for you'll be stuck
    with talking fish for
    believing all those hopeless
    romantic sighs.

    carrying a guilt unbearably
    laden, an exogenous
    onus too ugly
    to be true.
    is there anything that could
    ever make me come
    to finally
    believe in you?

    did you really know who
    i am? you said you never
    got that far. did you finally
    figure out that long-gone girl
    of yours, whom you met
    on the red river shore?

    but even more of a mystery, is
    who " was that
    barefooted man? what
    ground there was he
    standing on? who threw it "
    full of sand?

    the river overflowed on
    sands with silt, the dream sank
    naturally into her blood.
    was she a woman
    " or a creature?
    they knew not how
    to teach her
    on their road, now all but mud.

    the only sound left that i
    can hear, is your clock which
    no more can be wound.
    what kind of man are you,
    with no more life-times
    left, to leave me abandoned
    on your mound?

    the door slammed shut straight "
    into my petrified face
    my heart quaking, it blew my body
    and your memory away.
    i turned, then, just as soon "
    peered into your motorcycle room,
    and thought you were telling me
    that i could stay.

    i thought it was sweet, that you
    had planned this meet,
    that you "
    were in charge of it all.
    since i believed in
    my love for you, that we
    would never be through,
    before i left, i ran "
    for you to do
    concentric cartwheels
    " in your galactic backyard.

    there's them,
    then you and me
    you know i can barely see
    nobody really gives too much
    of a damn. i tried so hard
    to tell you, i shot it
    to you, through and
    through, but
    we were both running,
    on the lam.

    from red, down into black,
    darkness setting, with the sun "
    we know you have
    no more lifetimes left "
    and we all know
    that you're the one.

    is there anyone else
    that knows? you're the only
    one who really cares.
    maybe the time
    now calls for silence "
    to stop hawking all my wares.

    i thought that you were gone,
    my friend.
    you were lost to me,
    gone and out. what good
    does that do for us?
    for you to futz around
    and pout?

    are we sharing the same
    dream? i always
    thought we were. because
    of you, i thought
    inside myself, that maybe i
    could be the cure.

    but at what cost did
    this all go down?
    i can't do this without you.
    you know i never left you.
    i stuck to you like glue.

    i'm lost without
    a purpose.
    i'm lost without a goal.
    the bitter winds
    blow in my face, i'm torn "
    and broken off from
    the whole.

    i should melt back into
    the southern gloam,
    i've barely ever had a friend.
    i forward-faced
    the dream, it screams
    like a scratch on my lens,
    i have no heart
    left " for to mend.


    -H.C.
    8.24.25



    I'll need to compare the changes with the original, posted above.


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  • From will.dockery@will.dockery@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (Will-Dockery) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Tue Aug 26 10:40:07 2025
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    cheesetray wrote:
    As Lady and I Look Out Tonight


    Stranded on the icy banks
    of a once fertile river's shore,
    where gods intervened
    and mandated, rCLWoman "
    thou shalt cry no morerCY

    she's all dressed
    in red, from her head
    to her feet, both mangled
    by all those jealous lies "
    be careful what you wish
    for you'll be stuck
    with talking fish for
    believing all those hopeless
    romantic sighs.

    carrying a guilt unbearably
    laden, an exogenous
    onus too ugly
    to be true.
    is there anything that could
    ever make me come
    to finally
    believe in you?

    did you really know who
    i am? you said you never
    got that far. did you finally
    figure out that long-gone girl
    of yours, whom you met
    on the red river shore?

    but even more of a mystery, is
    who " was that
    barefooted man? what
    ground there was he
    standing on? who threw it "
    full of sand?

    the river overflowed on
    sands with silt, the dream sank
    naturally into her blood.
    was she a woman
    " or a creature?
    they knew not how
    to teach her
    on their road, now all but mud.

    the only sound left that i
    can hear, is your clock which
    no more can be wound.
    what kind of man are you,
    with no more life-times
    left, to leave me abandoned
    on your mound?

    the door slammed shut straight "
    into my petrified face
    my heart quaking, it blew my body
    and your memory away.
    i turned, then, just as soon "
    peered into your motorcycle room,
    and thought you were telling me
    that i could stay.

    i thought it was sweet, that you
    had planned this meet,
    that you "
    were in charge of it all.
    since i believed in
    my love for you, that we
    would never be through,
    before i left, i ran "
    for you to do
    concentric cartwheels
    " in your galactic backyard.

    there's them,
    then you and me
    you know i can barely see
    nobody really gives too much
    of a damn. i tried so hard
    to tell you, i shot it
    to you, through and
    through, but
    we were both running,
    on the lam.

    from red, down into black,
    darkness setting, with the sun "
    we know you have
    no more lifetimes left "
    and we all know
    that you're the one.

    is there anyone else
    that knows? you're the only
    one who really cares.
    maybe the time
    now calls for silence "
    to stop hawking all my wares.

    i thought that you were gone,
    my friend.
    you were lost to me,
    gone and out. what good
    does that do for us?
    for you to futz around
    and pout?

    are we sharing the same
    dream? i always
    thought we were. because
    of you, i thought
    inside myself, that maybe i
    could be the cure.

    but at what cost did
    this all go down?
    i can't do this without you.
    you know i never left you.
    i stuck to you like glue.

    i'm lost without
    a purpose.
    i'm lost without a goal.
    the bitter winds
    blow in my face, i'm torn "
    and broken off from
    the whole.

    i should melt back into
    the southern gloam,
    i've barely ever had a friend.
    i forward-faced
    the dream, it screams
    like a scratch on my lens,
    i have no heart
    left " for to mend.


    -H.C.
    8.24.25



    Good reference in the title also, by the way.


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  • From will.dockery@will.dockery@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (Will-Dockery) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Tue Aug 26 11:34:32 2025
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    cheesetray wrote:

    Will-Dockery wrote:

    cheesetray wrote:

    cheesetray wrote:
    anybody? preferences? comments? mass destruction?


    here's another one for the ending:

    i should go melt back into
    the southern gloam,
    i've barely ever had a friend.
    i have forward-faced the dream
    and it screamed like a scratch
    on my lens, i have no heart
    left " for to mend.


    -H.C.
    8.24.25


    Beautiful ending, and loved the use of "gloam" here.



    do you have a favorite presentation yet?



    Not yet, still reading.


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  • From roach4994@roach4994@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (cheesetray) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Tue Aug 26 14:27:21 2025
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    cheesetray wrote:
    As Lady and I Look Out Tonight


    Stranded on the icy banks
    of a once fertile river's shore,
    where gods intervened
    and mandated, rCLWoman "
    thou shalt cry no morerCY

    she's all dressed
    in red, from her head
    to her feet, both mangled
    by all those jealous lies "
    be careful what you wish
    for you'll be stuck
    with talking fish for
    believing all those hopeless
    romantic sighs.

    carrying a guilt unbearably
    laden, an exogenous
    onus too ugly
    to be true.
    is there anything that could
    ever make me come
    to finally
    believe in you?

    did you really know who
    i am? you said you never
    got that far. did you finally
    figure out that long-gone girl
    of yours, whom you met
    on the red river shore?

    but even more of a mystery, is
    who " was that
    barefooted man? what
    ground there was he
    standing on? who threw it "
    full of sand?

    the river overflowed on
    sands with silt, the dream sank
    naturally into her blood.
    was she a woman
    " or a creature?
    they knew not how
    to teach her
    on their road, now all but mud.

    the only sound left that i
    can hear, is your clock which
    no more can be wound.
    what kind of man are you,
    with no more life-times
    left, to leave me abandoned
    on your mound?

    the door slammed shut straight "
    into my petrified face
    my heart quaking, it blew my body
    and your memory away.
    i turned, then, just as soon "
    peered into your motorcycle room,
    and thought you were telling me
    that i could stay.

    i thought it was sweet, that you
    had planned this meet,
    that you "
    were in charge of it all.
    since i believed in
    my love for you, that we
    would never be through,
    before i left, i ran "
    for you to do
    concentric cartwheels
    " in your galactic backyard.

    there's them,
    then you and me
    you know i can barely see
    nobody really gives too much
    of a damn. i tried so hard
    to tell you, i shot it
    to you, through and
    through, but
    we were both running,
    on the lam.

    from red, down into black,
    darkness setting, with the sun "
    we know you have
    no more lifetimes left "
    and we all know
    that you're the one.

    is there anyone else
    that knows? you're the only
    one who really cares.
    maybe the time
    now calls for silence "
    to stop hawking all my wares.

    i thought that you were gone,
    my friend.
    you were lost to me,
    gone and out. what good
    does that do for us?
    for you to futz around
    and pout?

    are we sharing the same
    dream? i always
    thought we were. because
    of you, i thought
    inside myself, that maybe i
    could be the cure.

    but at what cost did
    this all go down?
    i can't do this without you.
    you know i never left you.
    i stuck to you like glue.

    i'm lost without
    a purpose.
    i'm lost without a goal.
    the bitter winds
    blow in my face, i'm torn "
    and broken off from
    the whole.

    i should melt back into
    the southern gloam,
    i've barely ever had a friend.
    i forward-faced
    the dream, it screams
    like a scratch on my lens,
    i have no heart
    left " for to mend.


    -H.C.
    8.24.25



    Okay, it's boring, but here it is tuned up, the compact version, but I'm still a bit uncertain about some of the punctuation, as I am only used to writing full sentences, not punctuating fragmented ones:


    As Lady and I Look Out Tonight


    Stranded on the icy banks
    of a once fertile river's shore,
    where gods intervened
    and mandated, rCLWoman "
    thou shalt cry no more.rCY

    She's all dressed in red,
    from her head to her feet,
    both mangled, by all those
    jealous lies "Be careful
    what you wish for
    you'll be stuck with
    talking fish for, believing
    all those hopeless romantic "
    drawn-out sighs.

    Carrying a guilt, unbearably laden,
    an exogenous onus too ugly
    to be true "Is there anything
    that could ever make me come
    to finally believe in you?

    Did you really know who I am?
    You said you " never
    got that far. Did you finally
    figure out that long-gone girl
    of yours, whom you met
    on the red river shore?

    But even more of a mystery is
    who " was that barefooted
    man? What ground there was he
    standing on? Who threw it "
    full of sand?

    The river overflowed on
    sands, with silt, the dream sank
    naturally, into her blood.
    Was she a woman
    " or a creature? They knew not
    how to teach her, on their road,
    now all but mud.

    The only sound left, that I
    can hear, is your clock "
    which no more can be wound.
    What kind of man are you,
    with no more lifetimes left,
    to leave me abandoned
    on your mound?

    The door slammed shut straight "
    into my petrified face,
    my heart quaking, it blew my body
    and the memory of you away.
    I turned, then just as soon "
    peered into your motorcycle room,
    and thought you were telling me
    that I could stay.

    I thought it was sweet, that you
    had planned this meet, that you "
    were in charge, of it all.
    Because of my love for you
    I knew we would never be through,
    before I left, I ran "for you,
    to do concentric cartwheels
    " in your galactic backyard.

    There's them, then you and me.
    You know I can barely see,
    and nobody really gives
    too much " of a damn.
    I tried so hard " to tell you,
    I shot it to you, through and
    through, but we were both
    running on the lam.

    From red, down into black,
    darkness setting, with the sun "
    We know you have no more
    lifetimes left, and we all know
    that you're the one.

    Is there anyone else who knows?
    You're the only one who really
    cares. Maybe the time now calls
    for silence " to stop hawking
    all my wares "

    I thought that you were
    gone, my friend. You were
    lost to me, gone and out.
    What good does that do
    for us, for you to futz
    around and pout?

    Are we sharing the same
    dream? I always thought
    we were. Because of you,
    I thought inside myself,
    that maybe I could be
    " the cure.

    But at what cost did "
    this all go down?
    I can't do this without you.
    You know I never left you.
    I stuck to you like glue.

    I'm lost without a purpose.
    I'm lost without a goal.
    The bitter winds blow in
    my face, I'm torn and
    broken off from the whole.

    I should go melt back into
    the southern gloam,
    I've barely ever had a friend.
    I have forward-faced the dream
    and it screamed like a scratch
    on my lens, I have no heart
    left " for to mend.


    -H.C.
    8.24.25


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  • From roach4994@roach4994@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (cheesetray) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Tue Aug 26 14:44:14 2025
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    cheesetray wrote:
    As Lady and I Look Out Tonight


    Stranded on the icy banks
    of a once fertile river's shore,
    where gods intervened
    and mandated, rCLWoman "
    thou shalt cry no morerCY

    she's all dressed
    in red, from her head
    to her feet, both mangled
    by all those jealous lies "
    be careful what you wish
    for you'll be stuck
    with talking fish for
    believing all those hopeless
    romantic sighs.

    carrying a guilt unbearably
    laden, an exogenous
    onus too ugly
    to be true.
    is there anything that could
    ever make me come
    to finally
    believe in you?

    did you really know who
    i am? you said you never
    got that far. did you finally
    figure out that long-gone girl
    of yours, whom you met
    on the red river shore?

    but even more of a mystery, is
    who " was that
    barefooted man? what
    ground there was he
    standing on? who threw it "
    full of sand?

    the river overflowed on
    sands with silt, the dream sank
    naturally into her blood.
    was she a woman
    " or a creature?
    they knew not how
    to teach her
    on their road, now all but mud.

    the only sound left that i
    can hear, is your clock which
    no more can be wound.
    what kind of man are you,
    with no more life-times
    left, to leave me abandoned
    on your mound?

    the door slammed shut straight "
    into my petrified face
    my heart quaking, it blew my body
    and your memory away.
    i turned, then, just as soon "
    peered into your motorcycle room,
    and thought you were telling me
    that i could stay.

    i thought it was sweet, that you
    had planned this meet,
    that you "
    were in charge of it all.
    since i believed in
    my love for you, that we
    would never be through,
    before i left, i ran "
    for you to do
    concentric cartwheels
    " in your galactic backyard.

    there's them,
    then you and me
    you know i can barely see
    nobody really gives too much
    of a damn. i tried so hard
    to tell you, i shot it
    to you, through and
    through, but
    we were both running,
    on the lam.

    from red, down into black,
    darkness setting, with the sun "
    we know you have
    no more lifetimes left "
    and we all know
    that you're the one.

    is there anyone else
    that knows? you're the only
    one who really cares.
    maybe the time
    now calls for silence "
    to stop hawking all my wares.

    i thought that you were gone,
    my friend.
    you were lost to me,
    gone and out. what good
    does that do for us?
    for you to futz around
    and pout?

    are we sharing the same
    dream? i always
    thought we were. because
    of you, i thought
    inside myself, that maybe i
    could be the cure.

    but at what cost did
    this all go down?
    i can't do this without you.
    you know i never left you.
    i stuck to you like glue.

    i'm lost without
    a purpose.
    i'm lost without a goal.
    the bitter winds
    blow in my face, i'm torn "
    and broken off from
    the whole.

    i should melt back into
    the southern gloam,
    i've barely ever had a friend.
    i forward-faced
    the dream, it screams
    like a scratch on my lens,
    i have no heart
    left " for to mend.


    -H.C.
    8.24.25



    [quote="cheesetray"]Okay, it's boring, but here it is tuned up, the compact version, but I'm still a bit uncertain about some of the punctuation, as I am only used to writing full sentences, not punctuating fragmented ones:


    As Lady and I Look Out Tonight


    Stranded on the icy banks
    of a once fertile river's shore,
    where gods intervened
    and mandated, rCLWoman "
    thou shalt cry no morerCY

    She's all dressed in red,
    from her head to her feet,
    both mangled, by all those
    jealous lies "Be careful
    what you wish for, or
    you'll be stuck with talking
    fish for, believing "
    all those hopeless romantic
    drawn-out sighs.

    Carrying a guilt unbearably laden,
    an exogenous onus too ugly
    to be true "is there anything
    that could ever make me come
    to finally believe in you?

    Did you really know who I am?
    You said you " never
    got that far. Did you finally
    figure out that long-gone girl
    of yours, whom you met
    on the red river shore?

    But even more of a mystery is
    who " was that barefooted
    man? What ground there was he
    standing on? Who threw it "
    full of sand?

    The river overflowed on
    sands, with silt, the dream sank
    naturally, into her blood.
    Was she a woman
    " or a creature? They knew not
    how to teach her, on their road,
    now all but mud.

    The only sound left, that I
    can hear, is your clock "
    which no more can be wound.
    What kind of man are you,
    with no more lifetimes left,
    to leave me abandoned
    on your mound?

    The door slammed shut straight "
    into my petrified face,
    my heart quaking, it blew my body
    and the memory of you away.
    I turned, then just as soon "
    peered into your motorcycle room,
    and thought you were telling me
    that I could stay.

    I thought it was sweet, that you
    had planned this meet, that you "
    were in charge, of it all.
    Because of my love for you
    I knew we would never be through,
    before I left, I ran "for you,
    to do concentric cartwheels
    " in your galactic backyard.

    There's them, then you and me.
    You know I can barely see,
    and nobody really gives
    too much " of a damn.
    I tried so hard " to tell you,
    I shot it to you, through and
    through, but we were both
    running on the lam.

    From red, down into black,
    darkness setting, with the sun "
    We know you have no more
    lifetimes left, and we all know
    that you're the one.

    Is there anyone else who knows?
    You're the only one who really
    cares. Maybe the time now calls
    for silence " to stop hawking
    all my wares.

    I thought that you were
    gone, my friend. You were
    lost to me, gone and out.
    What good does that do
    for us " for you to futz
    around and pout?

    Are we sharing the same
    dream? I always thought
    we were. Because of you,
    I thought inside myself,
    that maybe I could be
    " the cure.

    But at what cost did this
    all go down? I can't do this
    without you. You know I
    never left you "
    I stuck to you like glue.

    I'm lost without a purpose.
    I'm lost without a goal.
    The bitter winds blow in
    my face, I'm torn and
    broken off from the whole.

    I should go melt back into
    the southern gloam,
    I've barely ever had a friend.
    I have forward-faced the dream
    and it screamed like a scratch
    on my lens, I have no heart
    left " for to mend.


    -H.C.
    8.24.25


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  • From roach4994@roach4994@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (cheesetray) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Tue Aug 26 15:44:19 2025
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    cheesetray wrote:
    As Lady and I Look Out Tonight


    Stranded on the icy banks
    of a once fertile river's shore,
    where gods intervened
    and mandated, rCLWoman "
    thou shalt cry no morerCY

    she's all dressed
    in red, from her head
    to her feet, both mangled
    by all those jealous lies "
    be careful what you wish
    for you'll be stuck
    with talking fish for
    believing all those hopeless
    romantic sighs.

    carrying a guilt unbearably
    laden, an exogenous
    onus too ugly
    to be true.
    is there anything that could
    ever make me come
    to finally
    believe in you?

    did you really know who
    i am? you said you never
    got that far. did you finally
    figure out that long-gone girl
    of yours, whom you met
    on the red river shore?

    but even more of a mystery, is
    who " was that
    barefooted man? what
    ground there was he
    standing on? who threw it "
    full of sand?

    the river overflowed on
    sands with silt, the dream sank
    naturally into her blood.
    was she a woman
    " or a creature?
    they knew not how
    to teach her
    on their road, now all but mud.

    the only sound left that i
    can hear, is your clock which
    no more can be wound.
    what kind of man are you,
    with no more life-times
    left, to leave me abandoned
    on your mound?

    the door slammed shut straight "
    into my petrified face
    my heart quaking, it blew my body
    and your memory away.
    i turned, then, just as soon "
    peered into your motorcycle room,
    and thought you were telling me
    that i could stay.

    i thought it was sweet, that you
    had planned this meet,
    that you "
    were in charge of it all.
    since i believed in
    my love for you, that we
    would never be through,
    before i left, i ran "
    for you to do
    concentric cartwheels
    " in your galactic backyard.

    there's them,
    then you and me
    you know i can barely see
    nobody really gives too much
    of a damn. i tried so hard
    to tell you, i shot it
    to you, through and
    through, but
    we were both running,
    on the lam.

    from red, down into black,
    darkness setting, with the sun "
    we know you have
    no more lifetimes left "
    and we all know
    that you're the one.

    is there anyone else
    that knows? you're the only
    one who really cares.
    maybe the time
    now calls for silence "
    to stop hawking all my wares.

    i thought that you were gone,
    my friend.
    you were lost to me,
    gone and out. what good
    does that do for us?
    for you to futz around
    and pout?

    are we sharing the same
    dream? i always
    thought we were. because
    of you, i thought
    inside myself, that maybe i
    could be the cure.

    but at what cost did
    this all go down?
    i can't do this without you.
    you know i never left you.
    i stuck to you like glue.

    i'm lost without
    a purpose.
    i'm lost without a goal.
    the bitter winds
    blow in my face, i'm torn "
    and broken off from
    the whole.

    i should melt back into
    the southern gloam,
    i've barely ever had a friend.
    i forward-faced
    the dream, it screams
    like a scratch on my lens,
    i have no heart
    left " for to mend.


    -H.C.
    8.24.25



    Look, out of all of them so far, after some tweaking, meriting a re-reading, THIS IS MY FAVORITE, this is MY CHOICE and MY FINAL. (I know you don't believe me! :-) )

    As Lady and I Look Out Tonight


    Stranded on the icy banks
    of a once fertile river's shore,
    where gods intervened
    and mandated, rCLWoman "
    thou shalt cry no more.rCY

    She's all dressed
    in red, from her head
    to her feet,
    both mangled, by all those
    jealous lies "
    Be careful what you wish for
    you'll be stuck with
    talking fish for, believing
    all those hopeless romantic "
    drawn-out sighs.

    Carrying a guilt unbearably
    laden, an exogenous
    onus too ugly
    to be true "
    Is there anything that could
    ever make me come
    to finally
    believe in you?

    Did you really know
    who I am? You said you
    never " got that far.
    Did you finally figure out
    that long-gone girl
    of yours,
    whom you met
    on the red river shore?

    But even more of a mystery is
    who " was that barefooted
    man? what ground
    there was he
    standing on? who threw it "
    full of sand?

    The river overflowed on
    sands, with silt,
    the dream sank naturally
    " into her blood.
    Was she a woman
    " or a creature?
    They knew not how
    to teach her,
    on their road, now all
    but mud.

    The only sound left, that I
    can hear, is your clock "
    which no more
    can be wound. What kind of man
    are you, with no more
    lifetimes left, to leave me
    abandoned
    on your mound?

    The door slammed shut straight "
    into my petrified face,
    my heart quaking, it blew my body
    and the memory of you away.
    I turned,
    then, just as soon "
    peered into your motorcycle room,
    and thought you were
    telling me
    that I could stay.

    I thought it was sweet, that you
    had planned this meet,
    that you "
    were in charge, of it all.
    Because of my love for you
    I knew we would never
    be through,
    before I left, I ran "
    for you, to do concentric cartwheels
    " in your galactic backyard.

    There's them, then you
    and me. You know
    I can barely see, and nobody
    really gives " too much
    " of a damn. I tried
    so hard " to tell you,
    I shot it to you, through
    and through,
    but we were both
    running on the lam.

    From red, down into black,
    darkness setting, with the sun "
    We know you have
    no more lifetimes left "
    and we all know
    that you're the one.

    Is there anyone else "
    who knows? You're the only
    one who really cares.
    Maybe the time
    now calls for silence "
    to stop hawking all my wares.

    I thought that you were
    gone, my friend. You were
    lost to me, gone
    and out. What good does
    that do for us "
    for you to futz around
    and pout?

    Are we sharing the same
    dream? I always
    thought we were. Because
    of you, I thought
    inside myself, that maybe I
    could be the cure.

    But at what cost did
    this all go down?
    I can't do this without you.
    You know i never left you.
    I stuck to you like glue.

    I'm lost without
    a purpose.
    I'm lost without a goal.
    The bitter winds
    blow in my face, I'm torn "
    and broken off from
    the whole.

    I should go melt back into
    the southern gloam, I've barely
    ever had a friend.
    I have forward-faced
    the dream and it screamed
    like a scratch
    on my lens, I have no heart
    left " for to mend.


    -H.C.
    8.24.25


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  • From roach4994@roach4994@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (cheesetray) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Tue Aug 26 15:57:22 2025
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    cheesetray wrote:
    As Lady and I Look Out Tonight


    Stranded on the icy banks
    of a once fertile river's shore,
    where gods intervened
    and mandated, rCLWoman "
    thou shalt cry no morerCY

    she's all dressed
    in red, from her head
    to her feet, both mangled
    by all those jealous lies "
    be careful what you wish
    for you'll be stuck
    with talking fish for
    believing all those hopeless
    romantic sighs.

    carrying a guilt unbearably
    laden, an exogenous
    onus too ugly
    to be true.
    is there anything that could
    ever make me come
    to finally
    believe in you?

    did you really know who
    i am? you said you never
    got that far. did you finally
    figure out that long-gone girl
    of yours, whom you met
    on the red river shore?

    but even more of a mystery, is
    who " was that
    barefooted man? what
    ground there was he
    standing on? who threw it "
    full of sand?

    the river overflowed on
    sands with silt, the dream sank
    naturally into her blood.
    was she a woman
    " or a creature?
    they knew not how
    to teach her
    on their road, now all but mud.

    the only sound left that i
    can hear, is your clock which
    no more can be wound.
    what kind of man are you,
    with no more life-times
    left, to leave me abandoned
    on your mound?

    the door slammed shut straight "
    into my petrified face
    my heart quaking, it blew my body
    and your memory away.
    i turned, then, just as soon "
    peered into your motorcycle room,
    and thought you were telling me
    that i could stay.

    i thought it was sweet, that you
    had planned this meet,
    that you "
    were in charge of it all.
    since i believed in
    my love for you, that we
    would never be through,
    before i left, i ran "
    for you to do
    concentric cartwheels
    " in your galactic backyard.

    there's them,
    then you and me
    you know i can barely see
    nobody really gives too much
    of a damn. i tried so hard
    to tell you, i shot it
    to you, through and
    through, but
    we were both running,
    on the lam.

    from red, down into black,
    darkness setting, with the sun "
    we know you have
    no more lifetimes left "
    and we all know
    that you're the one.

    is there anyone else
    that knows? you're the only
    one who really cares.
    maybe the time
    now calls for silence "
    to stop hawking all my wares.

    i thought that you were gone,
    my friend.
    you were lost to me,
    gone and out. what good
    does that do for us?
    for you to futz around
    and pout?

    are we sharing the same
    dream? i always
    thought we were. because
    of you, i thought
    inside myself, that maybe i
    could be the cure.

    but at what cost did
    this all go down?
    i can't do this without you.
    you know i never left you.
    i stuck to you like glue.

    i'm lost without
    a purpose.
    i'm lost without a goal.
    the bitter winds
    blow in my face, i'm torn "
    and broken off from
    the whole.

    i should melt back into
    the southern gloam,
    i've barely ever had a friend.
    i forward-faced
    the dream, it screams
    like a scratch on my lens,
    i have no heart
    left " for to mend.


    -H.C.
    8.24.25



    okay, look, i caught a couple capitalizations where i messed up (missed or now changed mind about a capital)

    and then also.....i wasn't happy with one stanza..the one with barefooted man.


    As Lady and I Look Out Tonight


    Stranded on the icy banks
    of a once fertile river's shore,
    where gods intervened
    and mandated, rCLWoman "
    thou shalt cry no more.rCY

    She's all dressed
    in red, from her head
    to her feet,
    both mangled, by all those
    jealous lies "
    Be careful what you wish for
    you'll be stuck with
    talking fish for, believing
    all those hopeless romantic "
    drawn-out sighs.

    Carrying a guilt unbearably
    laden, an exogenous
    onus too ugly
    to be true "
    Is there anything that could
    ever make me come
    to finally
    believe in you?

    Did you really know
    who I am? You said you
    never " got that far.
    Did you finally figure out
    that long-gone girl
    of yours,
    whom you met
    on the red river shore?

    But even more "
    of a mystery is
    who " was that barefooted
    man? What ground
    there was he
    standing on? Who threw it "
    full of sand?

    The river overflowed on
    sands, with silt,
    the dream sank naturally
    " into her blood.
    Was she a woman
    " or a creature?
    They knew not how
    to teach her,
    on their road, now all
    but mud.

    The only sound left, that I
    can hear, is your clock "
    which no more
    can be wound. What kind of man
    are you, with no more
    lifetimes left, to leave me
    abandoned
    on your mound?

    The door slammed shut straight "
    into my petrified face,
    my heart quaking, it blew my body
    and the memory of you away.
    I turned,
    then, just as soon "
    peered into your motorcycle room,
    and thought you were
    telling me
    that I could stay.

    I thought it was sweet, that you
    had planned this meet,
    that you "
    were in charge, of it all.
    Because of my love for you
    I knew we would never
    be through,
    before I left, I ran "
    for you, to do concentric cartwheels
    " in your galactic backyard.

    There's them, then you
    and me. You know
    I can barely see, and nobody
    really gives " too much
    " of a damn. I tried
    so hard " to tell you,
    I shot it to you, through
    and through,
    but we were both
    running on the lam.

    From red, down into black,
    darkness setting, with the sun "
    we know you have
    no more lifetimes left "
    and we all know
    that you're the one.

    Is there anyone else "
    who knows? You're the only
    one who really cares.
    Maybe the time
    now calls for silence "
    to stop hawking all my wares.

    I thought that you were
    gone, my friend. You were
    lost to me, gone
    and out. What good does
    that do for us "
    for you to futz around
    and pout?

    Are we sharing the same
    dream? I always
    thought we were. Because
    of you, I thought
    inside myself, that maybe I
    could be the cure.

    But at what cost did
    this all go down?
    I can't do this without you.
    You know I never left you.
    I stuck to you like glue.

    I'm lost without
    a purpose.
    I'm lost without a goal.
    The bitter winds
    blow in my face, I'm torn "
    and broken off from
    the whole.

    I should go melt back into
    the southern gloam, I've barely
    ever had a friend.
    I have forward-faced
    the dream and it screamed
    like a scratch
    on my lens, I have no heart
    left " for to mend.


    -H.C.
    8.24.25


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  • From will.dockery@will.dockery@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (Will-Dockery) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Tue Aug 26 16:11:44 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.arts.poetry.comments

    cheesetray wrote:
    Look, out of all of them so far, after some tweaking, meriting a re-reading, THIS IS MY FAVORITE, this is MY CHOICE and MY FINAL. (I know you don't believe me! :-) )

    As Lady and I Look Out Tonight


    Stranded on the icy banks
    of a once fertile river's shore,
    where gods intervened
    and mandated, rCLWoman "
    thou shalt cry no more.rCY

    She's all dressed
    in red, from her head
    to her feet,
    both mangled, by all those
    jealous lies "
    Be careful what you wish for
    you'll be stuck with
    talking fish for, believing
    all those hopeless romantic "
    drawn-out sighs.

    Carrying a guilt unbearably
    laden, an exogenous
    onus too ugly
    to be true "
    Is there anything that could
    ever make me come
    to finally
    believe in you?

    Did you really know
    who I am? You said you
    never " got that far.
    Did you finally figure out
    that long-gone girl
    of yours,
    whom you met
    on the red river shore?

    But even more of a mystery is
    who " was that barefooted
    man? what ground
    there was he
    standing on? who threw it "
    full of sand?

    The river overflowed on
    sands, with silt,
    the dream sank naturally
    " into her blood.
    Was she a woman
    " or a creature?
    They knew not how
    to teach her,
    on their road, now all
    but mud.

    The only sound left, that I
    can hear, is your clock "
    which no more
    can be wound. What kind of man
    are you, with no more
    lifetimes left, to leave me
    abandoned
    on your mound?

    The door slammed shut straight "
    into my petrified face,
    my heart quaking, it blew my body
    and the memory of you away.
    I turned,
    then, just as soon "
    peered into your motorcycle room,
    and thought you were
    telling me
    that I could stay.

    I thought it was sweet, that you
    had planned this meet,
    that you "
    were in charge, of it all.
    Because of my love for you
    I knew we would never
    be through,
    before I left, I ran "
    for you, to do concentric cartwheels
    " in your galactic backyard.

    There's them, then you
    and me. You know
    I can barely see, and nobody
    really gives " too much
    " of a damn. I tried
    so hard " to tell you,
    I shot it to you, through
    and through,
    but we were both
    running on the lam.

    From red, down into black,
    darkness setting, with the sun "
    We know you have
    no more lifetimes left "
    and we all know
    that you're the one.

    Is there anyone else "
    who knows? You're the only
    one who really cares.
    Maybe the time
    now calls for silence "
    to stop hawking all my wares.

    I thought that you were
    gone, my friend. You were
    lost to me, gone
    and out. What good does
    that do for us "
    for you to futz around
    and pout?

    Are we sharing the same
    dream? I always
    thought we were. Because
    of you, I thought
    inside myself, that maybe I
    could be the cure.

    But at what cost did
    this all go down?
    I can't do this without you.
    You know i never left you.
    I stuck to you like glue.

    I'm lost without
    a purpose.
    I'm lost without a goal.
    The bitter winds
    blow in my face, I'm torn "
    and broken off from
    the whole.

    I should go melt back into
    the southern gloam, I've barely
    ever had a friend.
    I have forward-faced
    the dream and it screamed
    like a scratch
    on my lens, I have no heart
    left " for to mend.


    -H.C.
    8.24.25



    Final version, okay, I'll have a look.

    Good to see some actual poets here besides the stalker trolls such as NancyGene, who is currently in a tizzy obsessing over my late friend Geno Woolfolk.

    And so it goes.


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  • From roach4994@roach4994@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (cheesetray) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Tue Aug 26 18:20:24 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.arts.poetry.comments

    Will-Dockery wrote:

    cheesetray wrote:
    Look, out of all of them so far, after some tweaking, meriting a re-reading, THIS IS MY FAVORITE, this is MY CHOICE and MY FINAL. (I know you don't believe me! :-) )

    As Lady and I Look Out Tonight


    Stranded on the icy banks
    of a once fertile river's shore,
    where gods intervened
    and mandated, rCLWoman "
    thou shalt cry no more.rCY

    She's all dressed
    in red, from her head
    to her feet,
    both mangled, by all those
    jealous lies "
    Be careful what you wish for
    you'll be stuck with
    talking fish for, believing
    all those hopeless romantic "
    drawn-out sighs.

    Carrying a guilt unbearably
    laden, an exogenous
    onus too ugly
    to be true "
    Is there anything that could
    ever make me come
    to finally
    believe in you?

    Did you really know
    who I am? You said you
    never " got that far.
    Did you finally figure out
    that long-gone girl
    of yours,
    whom you met
    on the red river shore?

    But even more of a mystery is
    who " was that barefooted
    man? what ground
    there was he
    standing on? who threw it "
    full of sand?

    The river overflowed on
    sands, with silt,
    the dream sank naturally
    " into her blood.
    Was she a woman
    " or a creature?
    They knew not how
    to teach her,
    on their road, now all
    but mud.

    The only sound left, that I
    can hear, is your clock "
    which no more
    can be wound. What kind of man
    are you, with no more
    lifetimes left, to leave me
    abandoned
    on your mound?

    The door slammed shut straight "
    into my petrified face,
    my heart quaking, it blew my body
    and the memory of you away.
    I turned,
    then, just as soon "
    peered into your motorcycle room,
    and thought you were
    telling me
    that I could stay.

    I thought it was sweet, that you
    had planned this meet,
    that you "
    were in charge, of it all.
    Because of my love for you
    I knew we would never
    be through,
    before I left, I ran "
    for you, to do concentric cartwheels
    " in your galactic backyard.

    There's them, then you
    and me. You know
    I can barely see, and nobody
    really gives " too much
    " of a damn. I tried
    so hard " to tell you,
    I shot it to you, through
    and through,
    but we were both
    running on the lam.

    From red, down into black,
    darkness setting, with the sun "
    We know you have
    no more lifetimes left "
    and we all know
    that you're the one.

    Is there anyone else "
    who knows? You're the only
    one who really cares.
    Maybe the time
    now calls for silence "
    to stop hawking all my wares.

    I thought that you were
    gone, my friend. You were
    lost to me, gone
    and out. What good does
    that do for us "
    for you to futz around
    and pout?

    Are we sharing the same
    dream? I always
    thought we were. Because
    of you, I thought
    inside myself, that maybe I
    could be the cure.

    But at what cost did
    this all go down?
    I can't do this without you.
    You know i never left you.
    I stuck to you like glue.

    I'm lost without
    a purpose.
    I'm lost without a goal.
    The bitter winds
    blow in my face, I'm torn "
    and broken off from
    the whole.

    I should go melt back into
    the southern gloam, I've barely
    ever had a friend.
    I have forward-faced
    the dream and it screamed
    like a scratch
    on my lens, I have no heart
    left " for to mend.


    -H.C.
    8.24.25


    Final version, okay, I'll have a look.

    Good to see some actual poets here besides the stalker trolls such as NancyGene, who is currently in a tizzy obsessing over my late friend Geno Woolfolk.

    And so it goes.



    Thanks.

    Yeah, Geno seemed like a really cool guy. I'm sorry for your loss. : - ((( I knew a Geno. He was hot, that's when I got that black and blue t-shirt! My step-father's friend, that's also when we went to that caf|- Positively Front Street, and I got my matches which my parents proceeded to throw away, and they were on the stove, too. They probably thought they had to do with smoking or drugs. Haven't they ever heard of people collecting matches and matchbooks?!??!?!?! Ugh.



    small edit:


    There's them, then you
    and me. You know
    I can barely see, and nobody
    really gives " too much
    " of a damn. I tried
    so hard " to tell you,
    I shot it to you, through
    and through,
    but we were both running
    on the lam "


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  • From will.dockery@will.dockery@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (Will-Dockery) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Tue Aug 26 19:20:27 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.arts.poetry.comments

    cheesetray wrote:

    Will-Dockery wrote:

    cheesetray wrote:
    Look, out of all of them so far, after some tweaking, meriting a re-reading, THIS IS MY FAVORITE, this is MY CHOICE and MY FINAL. (I know you don't believe me! :-) )

    As Lady and I Look Out Tonight


    Stranded on the icy banks
    of a once fertile river's shore,
    where gods intervened
    and mandated, rCLWoman "
    thou shalt cry no more.rCY

    She's all dressed
    in red, from her head
    to her feet,
    both mangled, by all those
    jealous lies "
    Be careful what you wish for
    you'll be stuck with
    talking fish for, believing
    all those hopeless romantic "
    drawn-out sighs.

    Carrying a guilt unbearably
    laden, an exogenous
    onus too ugly
    to be true "
    Is there anything that could
    ever make me come
    to finally
    believe in you?

    Did you really know
    who I am? You said you
    never " got that far.
    Did you finally figure out
    that long-gone girl
    of yours,
    whom you met
    on the red river shore?

    But even more of a mystery is
    who " was that barefooted
    man? what ground
    there was he
    standing on? who threw it "
    full of sand?

    The river overflowed on
    sands, with silt,
    the dream sank naturally
    " into her blood.
    Was she a woman
    " or a creature?
    They knew not how
    to teach her,
    on their road, now all
    but mud.

    The only sound left, that I
    can hear, is your clock "
    which no more
    can be wound. What kind of man
    are you, with no more
    lifetimes left, to leave me
    abandoned
    on your mound?

    The door slammed shut straight "
    into my petrified face,
    my heart quaking, it blew my body
    and the memory of you away.
    I turned,
    then, just as soon "
    peered into your motorcycle room,
    and thought you were
    telling me
    that I could stay.

    I thought it was sweet, that you
    had planned this meet,
    that you "
    were in charge, of it all.
    Because of my love for you
    I knew we would never
    be through,
    before I left, I ran "
    for you, to do concentric cartwheels
    " in your galactic backyard.

    There's them, then you
    and me. You know
    I can barely see, and nobody
    really gives " too much
    " of a damn. I tried
    so hard " to tell you,
    I shot it to you, through
    and through,
    but we were both
    running on the lam.

    From red, down into black,
    darkness setting, with the sun "
    We know you have
    no more lifetimes left "
    and we all know
    that you're the one.

    Is there anyone else "
    who knows? You're the only
    one who really cares.
    Maybe the time
    now calls for silence "
    to stop hawking all my wares.

    I thought that you were
    gone, my friend. You were
    lost to me, gone
    and out. What good does
    that do for us "
    for you to futz around
    and pout?

    Are we sharing the same
    dream? I always
    thought we were. Because
    of you, I thought
    inside myself, that maybe I
    could be the cure.

    But at what cost did
    this all go down?
    I can't do this without you.
    You know i never left you.
    I stuck to you like glue.

    I'm lost without
    a purpose.
    I'm lost without a goal.
    The bitter winds
    blow in my face, I'm torn "
    and broken off from
    the whole.

    I should go melt back into
    the southern gloam, I've barely
    ever had a friend.
    I have forward-faced
    the dream and it screamed
    like a scratch
    on my lens, I have no heart
    left " for to mend.


    -H.C.
    8.24.25


    Final version, okay, I'll have a look.

    Good to see some actual poets here besides the stalker trolls such as NancyGene, who is currently in a tizzy obsessing over my late friend Geno Woolfolk.

    And so it goes.


    Thanks.

    Yeah, Geno seemed like a really cool guy. I'm sorry for your loss. : - ((( I knew a Geno. He was hot, that's when I got that black and blue t-shirt! My step-father's friend, that's also when we went to that caf|- Positively Front Street, and I got my matches which my parents proceeded to throw away, and they were on the stove, too. They probably thought they had to do with smoking or drugs. Haven't they ever heard of people collecting matches and matchbooks?!??!?!?! Ugh.



    small edit:


    There's them, then you
    and me. You know
    I can barely see, and nobody
    really gives " too much
    " of a damn. I tried
    so hard " to tell you,
    I shot it to you, through
    and through,
    but we were both running
    on the lam "



    Yes, Geno Woolfolk was an excellent musician and a good friend.

    The attacks in him here say more about Cujo and NancyGene than they do Geno Woolfolk.

    And so it goes.

    (Photo attachment added to JLA Forums, pictured L-R:
    Henry Conley, Geno Woolfolk Jr, Sandy Madaris, Zod, Riley Yielding, me in front.)


    View the attachments for this post at: http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=695040033#695040033




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  • From roach4994@roach4994@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (cheesetray) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Tue Aug 26 19:26:09 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.arts.poetry.comments

    cheesetray wrote:

    Will-Dockery wrote:

    cheesetray wrote:
    Look, out of all of them so far, after some tweaking, meriting a re-reading, THIS IS MY FAVORITE, this is MY CHOICE and MY FINAL. (I know you don't believe me! :-) )

    As Lady and I Look Out Tonight


    Stranded on the icy banks
    of a once fertile river's shore,
    where gods intervened
    and mandated, rCLWoman "
    thou shalt cry no more.rCY

    She's all dressed
    in red, from her head
    to her feet,
    both mangled, by all those
    jealous lies "
    Be careful what you wish for
    you'll be stuck with
    talking fish for, believing
    all those hopeless romantic "
    drawn-out sighs.

    Carrying a guilt unbearably
    laden, an exogenous
    onus too ugly
    to be true "
    Is there anything that could
    ever make me come
    to finally
    believe in you?

    Did you really know
    who I am? You said you
    never " got that far.
    Did you finally figure out
    that long-gone girl
    of yours,
    whom you met
    on the red river shore?

    But even more of a mystery is
    who " was that barefooted
    man? what ground
    there was he
    standing on? who threw it "
    full of sand?

    The river overflowed on
    sands, with silt,
    the dream sank naturally
    " into her blood.
    Was she a woman
    " or a creature?
    They knew not how
    to teach her,
    on their road, now all
    but mud.

    The only sound left, that I
    can hear, is your clock "
    which no more
    can be wound. What kind of man
    are you, with no more
    lifetimes left, to leave me
    abandoned
    on your mound?

    The door slammed shut straight "
    into my petrified face,
    my heart quaking, it blew my body
    and the memory of you away.
    I turned,
    then, just as soon "
    peered into your motorcycle room,
    and thought you were
    telling me
    that I could stay.

    I thought it was sweet, that you
    had planned this meet,
    that you "
    were in charge, of it all.
    Because of my love for you
    I knew we would never
    be through,
    before I left, I ran "
    for you, to do concentric cartwheels
    " in your galactic backyard.

    There's them, then you
    and me. You know
    I can barely see, and nobody
    really gives " too much
    " of a damn. I tried
    so hard " to tell you,
    I shot it to you, through
    and through,
    but we were both
    running on the lam.

    From red, down into black,
    darkness setting, with the sun "
    We know you have
    no more lifetimes left "
    and we all know
    that you're the one.

    Is there anyone else "
    who knows? You're the only
    one who really cares.
    Maybe the time
    now calls for silence "
    to stop hawking all my wares.

    I thought that you were
    gone, my friend. You were
    lost to me, gone
    and out. What good does
    that do for us "
    for you to futz around
    and pout?

    Are we sharing the same
    dream? I always
    thought we were. Because
    of you, I thought
    inside myself, that maybe I
    could be the cure.

    But at what cost did
    this all go down?
    I can't do this without you.
    You know i never left you.
    I stuck to you like glue.

    I'm lost without
    a purpose.
    I'm lost without a goal.
    The bitter winds
    blow in my face, I'm torn "
    and broken off from
    the whole.

    I should go melt back into
    the southern gloam, I've barely
    ever had a friend.
    I have forward-faced
    the dream and it screamed
    like a scratch
    on my lens, I have no heart
    left " for to mend.


    -H.C.
    8.24.25


    Final version, okay, I'll have a look.

    Good to see some actual poets here besides the stalker trolls such as NancyGene, who is currently in a tizzy obsessing over my late friend Geno Woolfolk.

    And so it goes.


    Thanks.

    Yeah, Geno seemed like a really cool guy. I'm sorry for your loss. : - ((( I knew a Geno. He was hot, that's when I got that black and blue t-shirt! My step-father's friend, that's also when we went to that caf|- Positively Front Street, and I got my matches which my parents proceeded to throw away, and they were on the stove, too. They probably thought they had to do with smoking or drugs. Haven't they ever heard of people collecting matches and matchbooks?!??!?!?! Ugh.



    small edit:


    There's them, then you
    and me. You know
    I can barely see, and nobody
    really gives " too much
    " of a damn. I tried
    so hard " to tell you,
    I shot it to you, through
    and through,
    but we were both running
    on the lam "




    okay, i've made an essentiai change to the lay-out for aesthetic reasons. it works even better.

    it was just getting TOO NARROW, and this balances it out beautifully, and returns balance to the piece.

    i feel that perhaps the integrity might be somewhat challenged, but it came down to a compromise. i could change my mind as to this present judgement, and find it meaningful in other ways.

    The river overflowed on
    sands, with silt, the dream sank
    naturally
    "into her blood.
    Was she a woman
    " or a creature?
    They knew not how
    to teach her,
    on their road, now all but mud.


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  • From roach4994@roach4994@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (cheesetray) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Tue Aug 26 19:44:35 2025
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    cheesetray wrote:

    cheesetray wrote:

    Will-Dockery wrote:

    cheesetray wrote:
    Look, out of all of them so far, after some tweaking, meriting a re-reading, THIS IS MY FAVORITE, this is MY CHOICE and MY FINAL. (I know you don't believe me! :-) )

    As Lady and I Look Out Tonight


    Stranded on the icy banks
    of a once fertile river's shore,
    where gods intervened
    and mandated, rCLWoman "
    thou shalt cry no more.rCY

    She's all dressed
    in red, from her head
    to her feet,
    both mangled, by all those
    jealous lies "
    Be careful what you wish for
    you'll be stuck with
    talking fish for, believing
    all those hopeless romantic "
    drawn-out sighs.

    Carrying a guilt unbearably
    laden, an exogenous
    onus too ugly
    to be true "
    Is there anything that could
    ever make me come
    to finally
    believe in you?

    Did you really know
    who I am? You said you
    never " got that far.
    Did you finally figure out
    that long-gone girl
    of yours,
    whom you met
    on the red river shore?

    But even more of a mystery is
    who " was that barefooted
    man? what ground
    there was he
    standing on? who threw it "
    full of sand?

    The river overflowed on
    sands, with silt,
    the dream sank naturally
    " into her blood.
    Was she a woman
    " or a creature?
    They knew not how
    to teach her,
    on their road, now all
    but mud.

    The only sound left, that I
    can hear, is your clock "
    which no more
    can be wound. What kind of man
    are you, with no more
    lifetimes left, to leave me
    abandoned
    on your mound?

    The door slammed shut straight "
    into my petrified face,
    my heart quaking, it blew my body
    and the memory of you away.
    I turned,
    then, just as soon "
    peered into your motorcycle room,
    and thought you were
    telling me
    that I could stay.

    I thought it was sweet, that you
    had planned this meet,
    that you "
    were in charge, of it all.
    Because of my love for you
    I knew we would never
    be through,
    before I left, I ran "
    for you, to do concentric cartwheels
    " in your galactic backyard.

    There's them, then you
    and me. You know
    I can barely see, and nobody
    really gives " too much
    " of a damn. I tried
    so hard " to tell you,
    I shot it to you, through
    and through,
    but we were both
    running on the lam.

    From red, down into black,
    darkness setting, with the sun "
    We know you have
    no more lifetimes left "
    and we all know
    that you're the one.

    Is there anyone else "
    who knows? You're the only
    one who really cares.
    Maybe the time
    now calls for silence "
    to stop hawking all my wares.

    I thought that you were
    gone, my friend. You were
    lost to me, gone
    and out. What good does
    that do for us "
    for you to futz around
    and pout?

    Are we sharing the same
    dream? I always
    thought we were. Because
    of you, I thought
    inside myself, that maybe I
    could be the cure.

    But at what cost did
    this all go down?
    I can't do this without you.
    You know i never left you.
    I stuck to you like glue.

    I'm lost without
    a purpose.
    I'm lost without a goal.
    The bitter winds
    blow in my face, I'm torn "
    and broken off from
    the whole.

    I should go melt back into
    the southern gloam, I've barely
    ever had a friend.
    I have forward-faced
    the dream and it screamed
    like a scratch
    on my lens, I have no heart
    left " for to mend.


    -H.C.
    8.24.25


    Final version, okay, I'll have a look.

    Good to see some actual poets here besides the stalker trolls such as NancyGene, who is currently in a tizzy obsessing over my late friend Geno Woolfolk.

    And so it goes.


    Thanks.

    Yeah, Geno seemed like a really cool guy. I'm sorry for your loss. : - ((( I knew a Geno. He was hot, that's when I got that black and blue t-shirt! My step-father's friend, that's also when we went to that caf|- Positively Front Street, and I got my matches which my parents proceeded to throw away, and they were on the stove, too. They probably thought they had to do with smoking or drugs. Haven't they ever heard of people collecting matches and matchbooks?!??!?!?! Ugh.



    small edit:


    There's them, then you
    and me. You know
    I can barely see, and nobody
    really gives " too much
    " of a damn. I tried
    so hard " to tell you,
    I shot it to you, through
    and through,
    but we were both running
    on the lam "



    okay, i've made an essentiai change to the lay-out for aesthetic reasons. it works even better.

    it was just getting TOO NARROW, and this balances it out beautifully, and returns balance to the piece.

    i feel that perhaps the integrity might be somewhat challenged, but it came down to a compromise. i could change my mind as to this present judgement, and find it meaningful in other ways.

    The river overflowed on
    sands, with silt, the dream sank
    naturally
    "into her blood.
    Was she a woman
    " or a creature?
    They knew not how
    to teach her,
    on their road, now all but mud.



    Did you really know who
    I am? You said you
    never " got that far.
    Did you finally figure out
    that long-gone girl
    of yours,
    whom you met
    on the red river shore?


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  • From roach4994@roach4994@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (cheesetray) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Tue Aug 26 19:46:55 2025
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    cheesetray wrote:
    As Lady and I Look Out Tonight


    Stranded on the icy banks
    of a once fertile river's shore,
    where gods intervened
    and mandated, rCLWoman "
    thou shalt cry no morerCY

    she's all dressed
    in red, from her head
    to her feet, both mangled
    by all those jealous lies "
    be careful what you wish
    for you'll be stuck
    with talking fish for
    believing all those hopeless
    romantic sighs.

    carrying a guilt unbearably
    laden, an exogenous
    onus too ugly
    to be true.
    is there anything that could
    ever make me come
    to finally
    believe in you?

    did you really know who
    i am? you said you never
    got that far. did you finally
    figure out that long-gone girl
    of yours, whom you met
    on the red river shore?

    but even more of a mystery, is
    who " was that
    barefooted man? what
    ground there was he
    standing on? who threw it "
    full of sand?

    the river overflowed on
    sands with silt, the dream sank
    naturally into her blood.
    was she a woman
    " or a creature?
    they knew not how
    to teach her
    on their road, now all but mud.

    the only sound left that i
    can hear, is your clock which
    no more can be wound.
    what kind of man are you,
    with no more life-times
    left, to leave me abandoned
    on your mound?

    the door slammed shut straight "
    into my petrified face
    my heart quaking, it blew my body
    and your memory away.
    i turned, then, just as soon "
    peered into your motorcycle room,
    and thought you were telling me
    that i could stay.

    i thought it was sweet, that you
    had planned this meet,
    that you "
    were in charge of it all.
    since i believed in
    my love for you, that we
    would never be through,
    before i left, i ran "
    for you to do
    concentric cartwheels
    " in your galactic backyard.

    there's them,
    then you and me
    you know i can barely see
    nobody really gives too much
    of a damn. i tried so hard
    to tell you, i shot it
    to you, through and
    through, but
    we were both running,
    on the lam.

    from red, down into black,
    darkness setting, with the sun "
    we know you have
    no more lifetimes left "
    and we all know
    that you're the one.

    is there anyone else
    that knows? you're the only
    one who really cares.
    maybe the time
    now calls for silence "
    to stop hawking all my wares.

    i thought that you were gone,
    my friend.
    you were lost to me,
    gone and out. what good
    does that do for us?
    for you to futz around
    and pout?

    are we sharing the same
    dream? i always
    thought we were. because
    of you, i thought
    inside myself, that maybe i
    could be the cure.

    but at what cost did
    this all go down?
    i can't do this without you.
    you know i never left you.
    i stuck to you like glue.

    i'm lost without
    a purpose.
    i'm lost without a goal.
    the bitter winds
    blow in my face, i'm torn "
    and broken off from
    the whole.

    i should melt back into
    the southern gloam,
    i've barely ever had a friend.
    i forward-faced
    the dream, it screams
    like a scratch on my lens,
    i have no heart
    left " for to mend.


    -H.C.
    8.24.25



    As Lady and I Look Out Tonight


    Stranded on the icy banks,
    of a once fertile river's shore,
    where gods intervened
    and mandated, rCLWoman "
    thou shalt cry no more.rCY

    She's all dressed in red, from
    her head, to her feet,
    both mangled, by all those
    jealous lies "
    Be careful what you wish for
    you'll be stuck with
    talking fish for, believing
    all those hopeless romantic "
    drawn-out sighs.

    Carrying a guilt unbearably
    laden, an exogenous
    onus too ugly
    to be true "
    Is there anything that could
    ever make me come
    to finally
    believe in you?

    Did you really know who
    I am? You said you
    never " got that far.
    Did you finally figure out
    that long-gone girl
    of yours,
    whom you met
    on the red river shore?

    But even more "
    of a mystery is
    who " was that barefooted
    man? What ground
    there was he
    standing on? who threw it "
    full of sand?

    The river overflowed on
    sands, with silt, the dream sank
    naturally
    "into her blood.
    Was she a woman
    " or a creature?
    They knew not how
    to teach her,
    on their road, now all but mud.

    The only sound left, that I
    can hear, is your clock "
    which no more
    can be wound. What kind of man
    are you, with no more
    lifetimes left, to leave me
    abandoned
    on your mound?

    The door slammed shut straight "
    into my petrified face,
    my heart quaking, it blew my body
    and the memory of you away.
    I turned,
    then, just as soon "
    peered into your motorcycle room,
    and thought you were
    telling me
    that I could stay.

    I thought it was sweet, that you
    had planned this meet,
    that you "
    were in charge, of it all.
    Because of my love for you
    I knew we would never
    be through,
    before I left, I ran "
    for you, to do concentric cartwheels
    " in your galactic backyard.

    There's them, then you
    and me. You know
    I can barely see, and nobody
    really gives " too much
    " of a damn. I tried
    so hard " to tell you,
    I shot it to you, through
    and through,
    but we were both running
    on the lam "

    From red, down into black,
    darkness setting, with the sun "
    We know you have
    no more lifetimes left "
    and we all know
    that you're the one.

    Is there anyone else "
    who knows? You're the only
    one who really cares.
    Maybe the time
    now calls for silence "
    to stop hawking all my wares.

    I thought that you were
    gone, my friend. You were
    lost to me, gone
    and out. What good does
    that do for us "
    for you to futz around
    and pout?

    Are we sharing the same
    dream? I always
    thought we were. Because
    of you, I thought
    inside myself, that maybe I
    could be the cure.

    But at what cost did
    this all go down?
    I can't do this without you.
    You know I never left you.
    I stuck to you like glue.

    I'm lost without
    a purpose.
    I'm lost without a goal.
    The bitter winds
    blow in my face, I'm torn "
    and broken off from
    the whole.

    I should go melt back into
    the southern gloam, I've barely
    ever had a friend.
    I have forward-faced
    the dream and it screamed
    like a scratch
    on my lens, I have no heart
    left " for to mend.


    -H.C.
    8.24.25


    faithfully yours,
    -cheese


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  • From will.dockery@will.dockery@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (Will-Dockery) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Tue Aug 26 20:54:44 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.arts.poetry.comments

    cheesetray wrote:
    As Lady and I Look Out Tonight


    Stranded on the icy banks,
    of a once fertile river's shore,
    where gods intervened
    and mandated, rCLWoman "
    thou shalt cry no more.rCY

    She's all dressed in red, from
    her head, to her feet,
    both mangled, by all those
    jealous lies "
    Be careful what you wish for
    you'll be stuck with
    talking fish for, believing
    all those hopeless romantic "
    drawn-out sighs.

    Carrying a guilt unbearably
    laden, an exogenous
    onus too ugly
    to be true "
    Is there anything that could
    ever make me come
    to finally
    believe in you?

    Did you really know who
    I am? You said you
    never " got that far.
    Did you finally figure out
    that long-gone girl
    of yours,
    whom you met
    on the red river shore?

    But even more "
    of a mystery is
    who " was that barefooted
    man? What ground
    there was he
    standing on? who threw it "
    full of sand?

    The river overflowed on
    sands, with silt, the dream sank
    naturally
    "into her blood.
    Was she a woman
    " or a creature?
    They knew not how
    to teach her,
    on their road, now all but mud.

    The only sound left, that I
    can hear, is your clock "
    which no more
    can be wound. What kind of man
    are you, with no more
    lifetimes left, to leave me
    abandoned
    on your mound?

    The door slammed shut straight "
    into my petrified face,
    my heart quaking, it blew my body
    and the memory of you away.
    I turned,
    then, just as soon "
    peered into your motorcycle room,
    and thought you were
    telling me
    that I could stay.

    I thought it was sweet, that you
    had planned this meet,
    that you "
    were in charge, of it all.
    Because of my love for you
    I knew we would never
    be through,
    before I left, I ran "
    for you, to do concentric cartwheels
    " in your galactic backyard.

    There's them, then you
    and me. You know
    I can barely see, and nobody
    really gives " too much
    " of a damn. I tried
    so hard " to tell you,
    I shot it to you, through
    and through,
    but we were both running
    on the lam "

    From red, down into black,
    darkness setting, with the sun "
    We know you have
    no more lifetimes left "
    and we all know
    that you're the one.

    Is there anyone else "
    who knows? You're the only
    one who really cares.
    Maybe the time
    now calls for silence "
    to stop hawking all my wares.

    I thought that you were
    gone, my friend. You were
    lost to me, gone
    and out. What good does
    that do for us "
    for you to futz around
    and pout?

    Are we sharing the same
    dream? I always
    thought we were. Because
    of you, I thought
    inside myself, that maybe I
    could be the cure.

    But at what cost did
    this all go down?
    I can't do this without you.
    You know I never left you.
    I stuck to you like glue.

    I'm lost without
    a purpose.
    I'm lost without a goal.
    The bitter winds
    blow in my face, I'm torn "
    and broken off from
    the whole.

    I should go melt back into
    the southern gloam, I've barely
    ever had a friend.
    I have forward-faced
    the dream and it screamed
    like a scratch
    on my lens, I have no heart
    left " for to mend.


    -H.C.
    8.24.25


    faithfully yours,
    -cheese



    Is this the finished version?


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  • From roach4994@roach4994@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (cheesetray) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Tue Aug 26 21:17:10 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.arts.poetry.comments

    cheesetray wrote:
    As Lady and I Look Out Tonight


    Stranded on the icy banks
    of a once fertile river's shore,
    where gods intervened
    and mandated, rCLWoman "
    thou shalt cry no morerCY

    she's all dressed
    in red, from her head
    to her feet, both mangled
    by all those jealous lies "
    be careful what you wish
    for you'll be stuck
    with talking fish for
    believing all those hopeless
    romantic sighs.

    carrying a guilt unbearably
    laden, an exogenous
    onus too ugly
    to be true.
    is there anything that could
    ever make me come
    to finally
    believe in you?

    did you really know who
    i am? you said you never
    got that far. did you finally
    figure out that long-gone girl
    of yours, whom you met
    on the red river shore?

    but even more of a mystery, is
    who " was that
    barefooted man? what
    ground there was he
    standing on? who threw it "
    full of sand?

    the river overflowed on
    sands with silt, the dream sank
    naturally into her blood.
    was she a woman
    " or a creature?
    they knew not how
    to teach her
    on their road, now all but mud.

    the only sound left that i
    can hear, is your clock which
    no more can be wound.
    what kind of man are you,
    with no more life-times
    left, to leave me abandoned
    on your mound?

    the door slammed shut straight "
    into my petrified face
    my heart quaking, it blew my body
    and your memory away.
    i turned, then, just as soon "
    peered into your motorcycle room,
    and thought you were telling me
    that i could stay.

    i thought it was sweet, that you
    had planned this meet,
    that you "
    were in charge of it all.
    since i believed in
    my love for you, that we
    would never be through,
    before i left, i ran "
    for you to do
    concentric cartwheels
    " in your galactic backyard.

    there's them,
    then you and me
    you know i can barely see
    nobody really gives too much
    of a damn. i tried so hard
    to tell you, i shot it
    to you, through and
    through, but
    we were both running,
    on the lam.

    from red, down into black,
    darkness setting, with the sun "
    we know you have
    no more lifetimes left "
    and we all know
    that you're the one.

    is there anyone else
    that knows? you're the only
    one who really cares.
    maybe the time
    now calls for silence "
    to stop hawking all my wares.

    i thought that you were gone,
    my friend.
    you were lost to me,
    gone and out. what good
    does that do for us?
    for you to futz around
    and pout?

    are we sharing the same
    dream? i always
    thought we were. because
    of you, i thought
    inside myself, that maybe i
    could be the cure.

    but at what cost did
    this all go down?
    i can't do this without you.
    you know i never left you.
    i stuck to you like glue.

    i'm lost without
    a purpose.
    i'm lost without a goal.
    the bitter winds
    blow in my face, i'm torn "
    and broken off from
    the whole.

    i should melt back into
    the southern gloam,
    i've barely ever had a friend.
    i forward-faced
    the dream, it screams
    like a scratch on my lens,
    i have no heart
    left " for to mend.


    -H.C.
    8.24.25



    As Lady and I Look Out Tonight


    Stranded on the icy banks,
    of a once fertile river's shore,
    where gods intervened
    and mandated, rCLWoman "
    thou shalt cry no more.rCY

    She's all dressed in red, from
    her head, to her feet,
    both mangled, by all those
    jealous lies "
    Be careful what you wish for
    you'll be stuck with
    talking fish for, believing
    all those hopeless romantic "
    drawn-out sighs.

    Carrying a guilt unbearably
    laden, an exogenous
    onus too ugly
    to be true "
    Is there anything that could
    ever make me come
    to finally
    believe in you?

    Did you really know who
    I am? You said you
    never " got that far.
    Did you finally figure out
    that long-gone girl
    of yours,
    whom you met
    on the red river shore?

    But even more "
    of a mystery is
    who " was that barefooted
    man? What ground
    there was he
    standing on? who threw it "
    full of sand?

    The river overflowed on
    sands, with silt, the dream sank
    naturally
    "into her blood.
    Was she a woman
    " or a creature?
    They knew not how
    to teach her,
    on their road, now all but mud.

    The only sound left, that I
    can hear, is your clock "
    which no more
    can be wound. What kind of man
    are you, with no more
    lifetimes left, to leave me
    abandoned
    on your mound?

    The door slammed shut straight "
    into my petrified face,
    my heart quaking, it blew my body
    and the memory of you away.
    I turned,
    then, just as soon "
    peered into your motorcycle room,
    and thought you were
    telling me
    that I could stay.

    I thought it was sweet, that you
    had planned this meet,
    that you "
    were in charge, of it all.
    Because of my love for you
    I knew we would never
    be through,
    before I left, I ran "
    for you, to do concentric cartwheels
    " in your galactic backyard.

    There's them, then you
    and me. You know
    I can barely see, and nobody
    really gives " too much
    " of a damn. I tried
    so hard " to tell you,
    I shot it to you, through
    and through,
    but we were both running
    on the lam "

    From red, down into black,
    darkness setting, with the sun "
    We know you have
    no more lifetimes left "
    and we all know
    that you're the one.

    Is there anyone else "
    who knows? You're the only
    one who really cares.
    Maybe the time
    now calls for silence "
    to stop hawking all my wares.

    I thought that you were
    gone, my friend. You were
    lost to me, gone
    and out. What good does
    that do for us "
    for you to futz around
    and pout?

    Are we sharing the same
    dream? I always
    thought we were. Because
    of you, I thought
    inside myself, that maybe I
    could be the cure.

    But at what cost did
    this all go down?
    I can't do this without you.
    You know I never left you.
    I stuck to you like glue.

    I'm lost without
    a purpose.
    I'm lost without a goal.
    The bitter winds
    blow in my face, I'm torn "
    and broken off from
    the whole.

    I should go melt back into
    the southern gloam, I've barely
    ever had a friend.
    I have forward-faced
    the dream and it screamed
    like a scratch
    on my lens, I have no heart
    left " for to mend.


    -H.C.
    8.24.25


    faithfully yours,
    -cheese


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  • From will.dockery@will.dockery@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (Will-Dockery) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Tue Aug 26 21:46:21 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.arts.poetry.comments

    cheesetray wrote:
    As Lady and I Look Out Tonight


    Stranded on the icy banks,
    of a once fertile river's shore,
    where gods intervened
    and mandated, rCLWoman "
    thou shalt cry no more.rCY

    She's all dressed in red, from
    her head, to her feet,
    both mangled, by all those
    jealous lies "
    Be careful what you wish for
    you'll be stuck with
    talking fish for, believing
    all those hopeless romantic "
    drawn-out sighs.

    Carrying a guilt unbearably
    laden, an exogenous
    onus too ugly
    to be true "
    Is there anything that could
    ever make me come
    to finally
    believe in you?

    Did you really know who
    I am? You said you
    never " got that far.
    Did you finally figure out
    that long-gone girl
    of yours,
    whom you met
    on the red river shore?

    But even more "
    of a mystery is
    who " was that barefooted
    man? What ground
    there was he
    standing on? who threw it "
    full of sand?

    The river overflowed on
    sands, with silt, the dream sank
    naturally
    "into her blood.
    Was she a woman
    " or a creature?
    They knew not how
    to teach her,
    on their road, now all but mud.

    The only sound left, that I
    can hear, is your clock "
    which no more
    can be wound. What kind of man
    are you, with no more
    lifetimes left, to leave me
    abandoned
    on your mound?

    The door slammed shut straight "
    into my petrified face,
    my heart quaking, it blew my body
    and the memory of you away.
    I turned,
    then, just as soon "
    peered into your motorcycle room,
    and thought you were
    telling me
    that I could stay.

    I thought it was sweet, that you
    had planned this meet,
    that you "
    were in charge, of it all.
    Because of my love for you
    I knew we would never
    be through,
    before I left, I ran "
    for you, to do concentric cartwheels
    " in your galactic backyard.

    There's them, then you
    and me. You know
    I can barely see, and nobody
    really gives " too much
    " of a damn. I tried
    so hard " to tell you,
    I shot it to you, through
    and through,
    but we were both running
    on the lam "

    From red, down into black,
    darkness setting, with the sun "
    We know you have
    no more lifetimes left "
    and we all know
    that you're the one.

    Is there anyone else "
    who knows? You're the only
    one who really cares.
    Maybe the time
    now calls for silence "
    to stop hawking all my wares.

    I thought that you were
    gone, my friend. You were
    lost to me, gone
    and out. What good does
    that do for us "
    for you to futz around
    and pout?

    Are we sharing the same
    dream? I always
    thought we were. Because
    of you, I thought
    inside myself, that maybe I
    could be the cure.

    But at what cost did
    this all go down?
    I can't do this without you.
    You know I never left you.
    I stuck to you like glue.

    I'm lost without
    a purpose.
    I'm lost without a goal.
    The bitter winds
    blow in my face, I'm torn "
    and broken off from
    the whole.

    I should go melt back into
    the southern gloam, I've barely
    ever had a friend.
    I have forward-faced
    the dream and it screamed
    like a scratch
    on my lens, I have no heart
    left " for to mend.


    -H.C.
    8.24.25


    faithfully yours,
    -cheese



    Final, compete version?


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  • From roach4994@roach4994@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (cheesetray) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Tue Aug 26 22:05:32 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.arts.poetry.comments

    Will-Dockery wrote:

    cheesetray wrote:
    As Lady and I Look Out Tonight


    Stranded on the icy banks,
    of a once fertile river's shore,
    where gods intervened
    and mandated, rCLWoman "
    thou shalt cry no more.rCY

    She's all dressed in red, from
    her head, to her feet,
    both mangled, by all those
    jealous lies "
    Be careful what you wish for
    you'll be stuck with
    talking fish for, believing
    all those hopeless romantic "
    drawn-out sighs.

    Carrying a guilt unbearably
    laden, an exogenous
    onus too ugly
    to be true "
    Is there anything that could
    ever make me come
    to finally
    believe in you?

    Did you really know who
    I am? You said you
    never " got that far.
    Did you finally figure out
    that long-gone girl
    of yours,
    whom you met
    on the red river shore?

    But even more "
    of a mystery is
    who " was that barefooted
    man? What ground
    there was he
    standing on? who threw it "
    full of sand?

    The river overflowed on
    sands, with silt, the dream sank
    naturally
    "into her blood.
    Was she a woman
    " or a creature?
    They knew not how
    to teach her,
    on their road, now all but mud.

    The only sound left, that I
    can hear, is your clock "
    which no more
    can be wound. What kind of man
    are you, with no more
    lifetimes left, to leave me
    abandoned
    on your mound?

    The door slammed shut straight "
    into my petrified face,
    my heart quaking, it blew my body
    and the memory of you away.
    I turned,
    then, just as soon "
    peered into your motorcycle room,
    and thought you were
    telling me
    that I could stay.

    I thought it was sweet, that you
    had planned this meet,
    that you "
    were in charge, of it all.
    Because of my love for you
    I knew we would never
    be through,
    before I left, I ran "
    for you, to do concentric cartwheels
    " in your galactic backyard.

    There's them, then you
    and me. You know
    I can barely see, and nobody
    really gives " too much
    " of a damn. I tried
    so hard " to tell you,
    I shot it to you, through
    and through,
    but we were both running
    on the lam "

    From red, down into black,
    darkness setting, with the sun "
    We know you have
    no more lifetimes left "
    and we all know
    that you're the one.

    Is there anyone else "
    who knows? You're the only
    one who really cares.
    Maybe the time
    now calls for silence "
    to stop hawking all my wares.

    I thought that you were
    gone, my friend. You were
    lost to me, gone
    and out. What good does
    that do for us "
    for you to futz around
    and pout?

    Are we sharing the same
    dream? I always
    thought we were. Because
    of you, I thought
    inside myself, that maybe I
    could be the cure.

    But at what cost did
    this all go down?
    I can't do this without you.
    You know I never left you.
    I stuck to you like glue.

    I'm lost without
    a purpose.
    I'm lost without a goal.
    The bitter winds
    blow in my face, I'm torn "
    and broken off from
    the whole.

    I should go melt back into
    the southern gloam, I've barely
    ever had a friend.
    I have forward-faced
    the dream and it screamed
    like a scratch
    on my lens, I have no heart
    left " for to mend.


    -H.C.
    8.24.25


    faithfully yours,
    -cheese


    Final, compete version?




    Yes, I'm FINISHED....or am i ?


    This is a response to the post seen at: http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=694942858#694942858
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  • From roach4994@roach4994@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (cheesetray) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Tue Aug 26 22:07:19 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.arts.poetry.comments

    cheesetray wrote:

    Will-Dockery wrote:

    cheesetray wrote:
    As Lady and I Look Out Tonight


    Stranded on the icy banks,
    of a once fertile river's shore,
    where gods intervened
    and mandated, rCLWoman "
    thou shalt cry no more.rCY

    She's all dressed in red, from
    her head, to her feet,
    both mangled, by all those
    jealous lies "
    Be careful what you wish for
    you'll be stuck with
    talking fish for, believing
    all those hopeless romantic "
    drawn-out sighs.

    Carrying a guilt unbearably
    laden, an exogenous
    onus too ugly
    to be true "
    Is there anything that could
    ever make me come
    to finally
    believe in you?

    Did you really know who
    I am? You said you
    never " got that far.
    Did you finally figure out
    that long-gone girl
    of yours,
    whom you met
    on the red river shore?

    But even more "
    of a mystery is
    who " was that barefooted
    man? What ground
    there was he
    standing on? who threw it "
    full of sand?

    The river overflowed on
    sands, with silt, the dream sank
    naturally
    "into her blood.
    Was she a woman
    " or a creature?
    They knew not how
    to teach her,
    on their road, now all but mud.

    The only sound left, that I
    can hear, is your clock "
    which no more
    can be wound. What kind of man
    are you, with no more
    lifetimes left, to leave me
    abandoned
    on your mound?

    The door slammed shut straight "
    into my petrified face,
    my heart quaking, it blew my body
    and the memory of you away.
    I turned,
    then, just as soon "
    peered into your motorcycle room,
    and thought you were
    telling me
    that I could stay.

    I thought it was sweet, that you
    had planned this meet,
    that you "
    were in charge, of it all.
    Because of my love for you
    I knew we would never
    be through,
    before I left, I ran "
    for you, to do concentric cartwheels
    " in your galactic backyard.

    There's them, then you
    and me. You know
    I can barely see, and nobody
    really gives " too much
    " of a damn. I tried
    so hard " to tell you,
    I shot it to you, through
    and through,
    but we were both running
    on the lam "

    From red, down into black,
    darkness setting, with the sun "
    We know you have
    no more lifetimes left "
    and we all know
    that you're the one.

    Is there anyone else "
    who knows? You're the only
    one who really cares.
    Maybe the time
    now calls for silence "
    to stop hawking all my wares.

    I thought that you were
    gone, my friend. You were
    lost to me, gone
    and out. What good does
    that do for us "
    for you to futz around
    and pout?

    Are we sharing the same
    dream? I always
    thought we were. Because
    of you, I thought
    inside myself, that maybe I
    could be the cure.

    But at what cost did
    this all go down?
    I can't do this without you.
    You know I never left you.
    I stuck to you like glue.

    I'm lost without
    a purpose.
    I'm lost without a goal.
    The bitter winds
    blow in my face, I'm torn "
    and broken off from
    the whole.

    I should go melt back into
    the southern gloam, I've barely
    ever had a friend.
    I have forward-faced
    the dream and it screamed
    like a scratch
    on my lens, I have no heart
    left " for to mend.


    -H.C.
    8.24.25


    faithfully yours,
    -cheese


    Final, compete version?



    Yes, I'm FINISHED....or am i ?





    or aren't i ?


    This is a response to the post seen at: http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=694942858#694942858
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  • From roach4994@roach4994@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (cheesetray) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Tue Aug 26 22:38:11 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.arts.poetry.comments

    cheesetray wrote:

    Will-Dockery wrote:

    cheesetray wrote:
    As Lady and I Look Out Tonight


    Stranded on the icy banks,
    of a once fertile river's shore,
    where gods intervened
    and mandated, rCLWoman "
    thou shalt cry no more.rCY

    She's all dressed in red, from
    her head, to her feet,
    both mangled, by all those
    jealous lies "
    Be careful what you wish for
    you'll be stuck with
    talking fish for, believing
    all those hopeless romantic "
    drawn-out sighs.

    Carrying a guilt unbearably
    laden, an exogenous
    onus too ugly
    to be true "
    Is there anything that could
    ever make me come
    to finally
    believe in you?

    Did you really know who
    I am? You said you
    never " got that far.
    Did you finally figure out
    that long-gone girl
    of yours,
    whom you met
    on the red river shore?

    But even more "
    of a mystery is
    who " was that barefooted
    man? What ground
    there was he
    standing on? who threw it "
    full of sand?

    The river overflowed on
    sands, with silt, the dream sank
    naturally
    "into her blood.
    Was she a woman
    " or a creature?
    They knew not how
    to teach her,
    on their road, now all but mud.

    The only sound left, that I
    can hear, is your clock "
    which no more
    can be wound. What kind of man
    are you, with no more
    lifetimes left, to leave me
    abandoned
    on your mound?

    The door slammed shut straight "
    into my petrified face,
    my heart quaking, it blew my body
    and the memory of you away.
    I turned,
    then, just as soon "
    peered into your motorcycle room,
    and thought you were
    telling me
    that I could stay.

    I thought it was sweet, that you
    had planned this meet,
    that you "
    were in charge, of it all.
    Because of my love for you
    I knew we would never
    be through,
    before I left, I ran "
    for you, to do concentric cartwheels
    " in your galactic backyard.

    There's them, then you
    and me. You know
    I can barely see, and nobody
    really gives " too much
    " of a damn. I tried
    so hard " to tell you,
    I shot it to you, through
    and through,
    but we were both running
    on the lam "

    From red, down into black,
    darkness setting, with the sun "
    We know you have
    no more lifetimes left "
    and we all know
    that you're the one.

    Is there anyone else "
    who knows? You're the only
    one who really cares.
    Maybe the time
    now calls for silence "
    to stop hawking all my wares.

    I thought that you were
    gone, my friend. You were
    lost to me, gone
    and out. What good does
    that do for us "
    for you to futz around
    and pout?

    Are we sharing the same
    dream? I always
    thought we were. Because
    of you, I thought
    inside myself, that maybe I
    could be the cure.

    But at what cost did
    this all go down?
    I can't do this without you.
    You know I never left you.
    I stuck to you like glue.

    I'm lost without
    a purpose.
    I'm lost without a goal.
    The bitter winds
    blow in my face, I'm torn "
    and broken off from
    the whole.

    I should go melt back into
    the southern gloam, I've barely
    ever had a friend.
    I have forward-faced
    the dream and it screamed
    like a scratch
    on my lens, I have no heart
    left " for to mend.


    -H.C.
    8.24.25


    faithfully yours,
    -cheese


    Final, compete version?



    Yes, I'm FINISHED....or am i ?





    or aren't i ?


    This is a response to the post seen at: http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=694942858#694942858
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From roach4994@roach4994@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (cheesetray) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Tue Aug 26 23:55:23 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.arts.poetry.comments

    cheesetray wrote:

    cheesetray wrote:

    Will-Dockery wrote:

    cheesetray wrote:
    As Lady and I Look Out Tonight


    Stranded on the icy banks,
    of a once fertile river's shore,
    where gods intervened
    and mandated, rCLWoman "
    thou shalt cry no more.rCY

    She's all dressed in red, from
    her head, to her feet,
    both mangled, by all those
    jealous lies "
    Be careful what you wish for
    you'll be stuck with
    talking fish for, believing
    all those hopeless romantic "
    drawn-out sighs.

    Carrying a guilt unbearably
    laden, an exogenous
    onus too ugly
    to be true "
    Is there anything that could
    ever make me come
    to finally
    believe in you?

    Did you really know who
    I am? You said you
    never " got that far.
    Did you finally figure out
    that long-gone girl
    of yours,
    whom you met
    on the red river shore?

    But even more "
    of a mystery is
    who " was that barefooted
    man? What ground
    there was he
    standing on? who threw it "
    full of sand?

    The river overflowed on
    sands, with silt, the dream sank
    naturally
    "into her blood.
    Was she a woman
    " or a creature?
    They knew not how
    to teach her,
    on their road, now all but mud.

    The only sound left, that I
    can hear, is your clock "
    which no more
    can be wound. What kind of man
    are you, with no more
    lifetimes left, to leave me
    abandoned
    on your mound?

    The door slammed shut straight "
    into my petrified face,
    my heart quaking, it blew my body
    and the memory of you away.
    I turned,
    then, just as soon "
    peered into your motorcycle room,
    and thought you were
    telling me
    that I could stay.

    I thought it was sweet, that you
    had planned this meet,
    that you "
    were in charge, of it all.
    Because of my love for you
    I knew we would never
    be through,
    before I left, I ran "
    for you, to do concentric cartwheels
    " in your galactic backyard.

    There's them, then you
    and me. You know
    I can barely see, and nobody
    really gives " too much
    " of a damn. I tried
    so hard " to tell you,
    I shot it to you, through
    and through,
    but we were both running
    on the lam "

    From red, down into black,
    darkness setting, with the sun "
    We know you have
    no more lifetimes left "
    and we all know
    that you're the one.

    Is there anyone else "
    who knows? You're the only
    one who really cares.
    Maybe the time
    now calls for silence "
    to stop hawking all my wares.

    I thought that you were
    gone, my friend. You were
    lost to me, gone
    and out. What good does
    that do for us "
    for you to futz around
    and pout?

    Are we sharing the same
    dream? I always
    thought we were. Because
    of you, I thought
    inside myself, that maybe I
    could be the cure.

    But at what cost did
    this all go down?
    I can't do this without you.
    You know I never left you.
    I stuck to you like glue.

    I'm lost without
    a purpose.
    I'm lost without a goal.
    The bitter winds
    blow in my face, I'm torn "
    and broken off from
    the whole.

    I should go melt back into
    the southern gloam, I've barely
    ever had a friend.
    I have forward-faced
    the dream and it screamed
    like a scratch
    on my lens, I have no heart
    left " for to mend.


    -H.C.
    8.24.25


    faithfully yours,
    -cheese


    Final, compete version?



    Yes, I'm FINISHED....or am i ?




    or aren't i ?




    She's all dressed in red, from
    her head, to her feet,
    both mangled, by all those
    jealous lies "
    Be careful what you wish for
    you'll be stuck with
    talking fish for, believing
    all those hopeless romantic "
    drawn-out sighs.

    CHANGED TO FIT THE PROPER SEMANTIC INTENTION READING

    She's all dressed in red, from
    her head, to her feet,
    both mangled, by all those
    jealous lies "
    Be careful what you wish for
    you'll be stuck with
    talking fish for, believing
    all those hopeless romantic
    long drawn-out sighs.

    ****

    if you couldn't figure it out, it's not

    hopeless, romantic "

    it's a noun

    a hopeless romantic....

    and thus, reading it as such, warrants the addition of an extra syllable before drawn-out.

    i actually heard it and HAD THIS ('long') before, a long time ago, but it got lost amongst the revisions.


    This is a response to the post seen at: http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=694942858#694942858
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  • From roach4994@roach4994@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (cheesetray) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Wed Aug 27 01:14:45 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.arts.poetry.comments

    cheesetray wrote:

    cheesetray wrote:

    cheesetray wrote:

    Will-Dockery wrote:

    cheesetray wrote:
    As Lady and I Look Out Tonight


    Stranded on the icy banks,
    of a once fertile river's shore,
    where gods intervened
    and mandated, rCLWoman "
    thou shalt cry no more.rCY

    She's all dressed in red, from
    her head, to her feet,
    both mangled, by all those
    jealous lies "
    Be careful what you wish for
    you'll be stuck with
    talking fish for, believing
    all those hopeless romantic "
    drawn-out sighs.

    Carrying a guilt unbearably
    laden, an exogenous
    onus too ugly
    to be true "
    Is there anything that could
    ever make me come
    to finally
    believe in you?

    Did you really know who
    I am? You said you
    never " got that far.
    Did you finally figure out
    that long-gone girl
    of yours,
    whom you met
    on the red river shore?

    But even more "
    of a mystery is
    who " was that barefooted
    man? What ground
    there was he
    standing on? who threw it "
    full of sand?

    The river overflowed on
    sands, with silt, the dream sank
    naturally
    "into her blood.
    Was she a woman
    " or a creature?
    They knew not how
    to teach her,
    on their road, now all but mud.

    The only sound left, that I
    can hear, is your clock "
    which no more
    can be wound. What kind of man
    are you, with no more
    lifetimes left, to leave me
    abandoned
    on your mound?

    The door slammed shut straight "
    into my petrified face,
    my heart quaking, it blew my body
    and the memory of you away.
    I turned,
    then, just as soon "
    peered into your motorcycle room,
    and thought you were
    telling me
    that I could stay.

    I thought it was sweet, that you
    had planned this meet,
    that you "
    were in charge, of it all.
    Because of my love for you
    I knew we would never
    be through,
    before I left, I ran "
    for you, to do concentric cartwheels
    " in your galactic backyard.

    There's them, then you
    and me. You know
    I can barely see, and nobody
    really gives " too much
    " of a damn. I tried
    so hard " to tell you,
    I shot it to you, through
    and through,
    but we were both running
    on the lam "

    From red, down into black,
    darkness setting, with the sun "
    We know you have
    no more lifetimes left "
    and we all know
    that you're the one.

    Is there anyone else "
    who knows? You're the only
    one who really cares.
    Maybe the time
    now calls for silence "
    to stop hawking all my wares.

    I thought that you were
    gone, my friend. You were
    lost to me, gone
    and out. What good does
    that do for us "
    for you to futz around
    and pout?

    Are we sharing the same
    dream? I always
    thought we were. Because
    of you, I thought
    inside myself, that maybe I
    could be the cure.

    But at what cost did
    this all go down?
    I can't do this without you.
    You know I never left you.
    I stuck to you like glue.

    I'm lost without
    a purpose.
    I'm lost without a goal.
    The bitter winds
    blow in my face, I'm torn "
    and broken off from
    the whole.

    I should go melt back into
    the southern gloam, I've barely
    ever had a friend.
    I have forward-faced
    the dream and it screamed
    like a scratch
    on my lens, I have no heart
    left " for to mend.


    -H.C.
    8.24.25


    faithfully yours,
    -cheese


    Final, compete version?



    Yes, I'm FINISHED....or am i ?




    or aren't i ?



    She's all dressed in red, from
    her head, to her feet,
    both mangled, by all those
    jealous lies "
    Be careful what you wish for
    you'll be stuck with
    talking fish for, believing
    all those hopeless romantic "
    drawn-out sighs.

    CHANGED TO FIT THE PROPER SEMANTIC INTENTION READING

    She's all dressed in red, from
    her head, to her feet,
    both mangled, by all those
    jealous lies "
    Be careful what you wish for
    you'll be stuck with
    talking fish for, believing
    all those hopeless romantic
    long drawn-out sighs.

    ****

    if you couldn't figure it out, it's not

    hopeless, romantic "

    it's a noun

    a hopeless romantic....

    and thus, reading it as such, warrants the addition of an extra syllable before drawn-out.

    i actually heard it and HAD THIS ('long') before, a long time ago, but it got lost amongst the revisions.



    for clarity, i'm pretty sure that needs a comma after long.

    She's all dressed in red, from
    her head, to her feet,
    both mangled, by all those
    jealous lies "
    Be careful what you wish for
    you'll be stuck with
    talking fish for, believing
    all those hopeless romantic
    long, drawn-out sighs.


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  • From roach4994@roach4994@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (cheesetray) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Wed Aug 27 01:18:10 2025
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    cheesetray wrote:

    cheesetray wrote:

    cheesetray wrote:

    cheesetray wrote:

    Will-Dockery wrote:

    cheesetray wrote:
    As Lady and I Look Out Tonight


    Stranded on the icy banks,
    of a once fertile river's shore,
    where gods intervened
    and mandated, rCLWoman "
    thou shalt cry no more.rCY

    She's all dressed in red, from
    her head, to her feet,
    both mangled, by all those
    jealous lies "
    Be careful what you wish for
    you'll be stuck with
    talking fish for, believing
    all those hopeless romantic "
    drawn-out sighs.

    Carrying a guilt unbearably
    laden, an exogenous
    onus too ugly
    to be true "
    Is there anything that could
    ever make me come
    to finally
    believe in you?

    Did you really know who
    I am? You said you
    never " got that far.
    Did you finally figure out
    that long-gone girl
    of yours,
    whom you met
    on the red river shore?

    But even more "
    of a mystery is
    who " was that barefooted
    man? What ground
    there was he
    standing on? who threw it "
    full of sand?

    The river overflowed on
    sands, with silt, the dream sank
    naturally
    "into her blood.
    Was she a woman
    " or a creature?
    They knew not how
    to teach her,
    on their road, now all but mud.

    The only sound left, that I
    can hear, is your clock "
    which no more
    can be wound. What kind of man
    are you, with no more
    lifetimes left, to leave me
    abandoned
    on your mound?

    The door slammed shut straight "
    into my petrified face,
    my heart quaking, it blew my body
    and the memory of you away.
    I turned,
    then, just as soon "
    peered into your motorcycle room,
    and thought you were
    telling me
    that I could stay.

    I thought it was sweet, that you
    had planned this meet,
    that you "
    were in charge, of it all.
    Because of my love for you
    I knew we would never
    be through,
    before I left, I ran "
    for you, to do concentric cartwheels
    " in your galactic backyard.

    There's them, then you
    and me. You know
    I can barely see, and nobody
    really gives " too much
    " of a damn. I tried
    so hard " to tell you,
    I shot it to you, through
    and through,
    but we were both running
    on the lam "

    From red, down into black,
    darkness setting, with the sun "
    We know you have
    no more lifetimes left "
    and we all know
    that you're the one.

    Is there anyone else "
    who knows? You're the only
    one who really cares.
    Maybe the time
    now calls for silence "
    to stop hawking all my wares.

    I thought that you were
    gone, my friend. You were
    lost to me, gone
    and out. What good does
    that do for us "
    for you to futz around
    and pout?

    Are we sharing the same
    dream? I always
    thought we were. Because
    of you, I thought
    inside myself, that maybe I
    could be the cure.

    But at what cost did
    this all go down?
    I can't do this without you.
    You know I never left you.
    I stuck to you like glue.

    I'm lost without
    a purpose.
    I'm lost without a goal.
    The bitter winds
    blow in my face, I'm torn "
    and broken off from
    the whole.

    I should go melt back into
    the southern gloam, I've barely
    ever had a friend.
    I have forward-faced
    the dream and it screamed
    like a scratch
    on my lens, I have no heart
    left " for to mend.


    -H.C.
    8.24.25


    faithfully yours,
    -cheese


    Final, compete version?



    Yes, I'm FINISHED....or am i ?




    or aren't i ?



    She's all dressed in red, from
    her head, to her feet,
    both mangled, by all those
    jealous lies "
    Be careful what you wish for
    you'll be stuck with
    talking fish for, believing
    all those hopeless romantic "
    drawn-out sighs.

    CHANGED TO FIT THE PROPER SEMANTIC INTENTION READING

    She's all dressed in red, from
    her head, to her feet,
    both mangled, by all those
    jealous lies "
    Be careful what you wish for
    you'll be stuck with
    talking fish for, believing
    all those hopeless romantic
    long drawn-out sighs.

    ****

    if you couldn't figure it out, it's not

    hopeless, romantic "

    it's a noun

    a hopeless romantic....

    and thus, reading it as such, warrants the addition of an extra syllable before drawn-out.

    i actually heard it and HAD THIS ('long') before, a long time ago, but it got lost amongst the revisions.


    for clarity, i'm pretty sure that needs a comma after long.

    She's all dressed in red, from
    her head, to her feet,
    both mangled, by all those
    jealous lies "
    Be careful what you wish for
    you'll be stuck with
    talking fish for, believing
    all those hopeless romantic
    long, drawn-out sighs.



    Either period after for, Be careful what you with for(.) Then You'll be stuck....capitalize the Y. OR....add back the or in some revisions. I think the latter.


    She's all dressed in red, from
    her head, to her feet,
    both mangled, by all those
    jealous lies "
    Be careful what you wish for
    or you'll be stuck with
    talking fish for, believing
    all those hopeless romantic "
    long, drawn-out sighs.


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  • From roach4994@roach4994@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (cheesetray) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Wed Aug 27 05:19:34 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.arts.poetry.comments

    cheesetray wrote:
    As Lady and I Look Out Tonight


    Stranded on the icy banks
    of a once fertile river's shore,
    where gods intervened
    and mandated, rCLWoman "
    thou shalt cry no morerCY

    she's all dressed
    in red, from her head
    to her feet, both mangled
    by all those jealous lies "
    be careful what you wish
    for you'll be stuck
    with talking fish for
    believing all those hopeless
    romantic sighs.

    carrying a guilt unbearably
    laden, an exogenous
    onus too ugly
    to be true.
    is there anything that could
    ever make me come
    to finally
    believe in you?

    did you really know who
    i am? you said you never
    got that far. did you finally
    figure out that long-gone girl
    of yours, whom you met
    on the red river shore?

    but even more of a mystery, is
    who " was that
    barefooted man? what
    ground there was he
    standing on? who threw it "
    full of sand?

    the river overflowed on
    sands with silt, the dream sank
    naturally into her blood.
    was she a woman
    " or a creature?
    they knew not how
    to teach her
    on their road, now all but mud.

    the only sound left that i
    can hear, is your clock which
    no more can be wound.
    what kind of man are you,
    with no more life-times
    left, to leave me abandoned
    on your mound?

    the door slammed shut straight "
    into my petrified face
    my heart quaking, it blew my body
    and your memory away.
    i turned, then, just as soon "
    peered into your motorcycle room,
    and thought you were telling me
    that i could stay.

    i thought it was sweet, that you
    had planned this meet,
    that you "
    were in charge of it all.
    since i believed in
    my love for you, that we
    would never be through,
    before i left, i ran "
    for you to do
    concentric cartwheels
    " in your galactic backyard.

    there's them,
    then you and me
    you know i can barely see
    nobody really gives too much
    of a damn. i tried so hard
    to tell you, i shot it
    to you, through and
    through, but
    we were both running,
    on the lam.

    from red, down into black,
    darkness setting, with the sun "
    we know you have
    no more lifetimes left "
    and we all know
    that you're the one.

    is there anyone else
    that knows? you're the only
    one who really cares.
    maybe the time
    now calls for silence "
    to stop hawking all my wares.

    i thought that you were gone,
    my friend.
    you were lost to me,
    gone and out. what good
    does that do for us?
    for you to futz around
    and pout?

    are we sharing the same
    dream? i always
    thought we were. because
    of you, i thought
    inside myself, that maybe i
    could be the cure.

    but at what cost did
    this all go down?
    i can't do this without you.
    you know i never left you.
    i stuck to you like glue.

    i'm lost without
    a purpose.
    i'm lost without a goal.
    the bitter winds
    blow in my face, i'm torn "
    and broken off from
    the whole.

    i should melt back into
    the southern gloam,
    i've barely ever had a friend.
    i forward-faced
    the dream, it screams
    like a scratch on my lens,
    i have no heart
    left " for to mend.


    -H.C.
    8.24.25



    I think the thing to do is.....stop saying when the version is final or not....which should help with frustration.

    show, don't tell....when it's final.....wait, then repost. That may not even be the answer, either. We'll have to see.


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  • From will.dockery@will.dockery@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (Will-Dockery) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Wed Aug 27 16:39:46 2025
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    cheesetray wrote:
    I think the thing to do is.....stop saying when the version is final or not....which should help with frustration.

    show, don't tell....when it's final.....wait, then repost. That may not even be the answer, either. We'll have to see.



    Seems like a good plan.


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  • From will.dockery@will.dockery@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (Will-Dockery) to alt.arts.poetry.comments on Sat Aug 30 23:42:14 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.arts.poetry.comments

    cheesetray wrote:

    Will-Dockery wrote:

    cheesetray wrote:
    As Lady and I Look Out Tonight


    Stranded on the icy banks,
    of a once fertile river's shore,
    where gods intervened
    and mandated, rCLWoman "
    thou shalt cry no more.rCY

    She's all dressed in red, from
    her head, to her feet,
    both mangled, by all those
    jealous lies "
    Be careful what you wish for
    you'll be stuck with
    talking fish for, believing
    all those hopeless romantic "
    drawn-out sighs.

    Carrying a guilt unbearably
    laden, an exogenous
    onus too ugly
    to be true "
    Is there anything that could
    ever make me come
    to finally
    believe in you?

    Did you really know who
    I am? You said you
    never " got that far.
    Did you finally figure out
    that long-gone girl
    of yours,
    whom you met
    on the red river shore?

    But even more "
    of a mystery is
    who " was that barefooted
    man? What ground
    there was he
    standing on? who threw it "
    full of sand?

    The river overflowed on
    sands, with silt, the dream sank
    naturally
    "into her blood.
    Was she a woman
    " or a creature?
    They knew not how
    to teach her,
    on their road, now all but mud.

    The only sound left, that I
    can hear, is your clock "
    which no more
    can be wound. What kind of man
    are you, with no more
    lifetimes left, to leave me
    abandoned
    on your mound?

    The door slammed shut straight "
    into my petrified face,
    my heart quaking, it blew my body
    and the memory of you away.
    I turned,
    then, just as soon "
    peered into your motorcycle room,
    and thought you were
    telling me
    that I could stay.

    I thought it was sweet, that you
    had planned this meet,
    that you "
    were in charge, of it all.
    Because of my love for you
    I knew we would never
    be through,
    before I left, I ran "
    for you, to do concentric cartwheels
    " in your galactic backyard.

    There's them, then you
    and me. You know
    I can barely see, and nobody
    really gives " too much
    " of a damn. I tried
    so hard " to tell you,
    I shot it to you, through
    and through,
    but we were both running
    on the lam "

    From red, down into black,
    darkness setting, with the sun "
    We know you have
    no more lifetimes left "
    and we all know
    that you're the one.

    Is there anyone else "
    who knows? You're the only
    one who really cares.
    Maybe the time
    now calls for silence "
    to stop hawking all my wares.

    I thought that you were
    gone, my friend. You were
    lost to me, gone
    and out. What good does
    that do for us "
    for you to futz around
    and pout?

    Are we sharing the same
    dream? I always
    thought we were. Because
    of you, I thought
    inside myself, that maybe I
    could be the cure.

    But at what cost did
    this all go down?
    I can't do this without you.
    You know I never left you.
    I stuck to you like glue.

    I'm lost without
    a purpose.
    I'm lost without a goal.
    The bitter winds
    blow in my face, I'm torn "
    and broken off from
    the whole.

    I should go melt back into
    the southern gloam, I've barely
    ever had a friend.
    I have forward-faced
    the dream and it screamed
    like a scratch
    on my lens, I have no heart
    left " for to mend.


    -H.C.
    8.24.25


    faithfully yours,
    -cheese


    Final, compete version?



    Yes, I'm FINISHED....or am i ?



    Not sure.


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