• Re: News Archived in Perpetuity

    From Ottavio Caruso@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 5 14:17:31 2024
    Le 04/07/2024 à 20:52, Roger Hayter a écrit :
    On 4 Jul 2024 at 20:30:32 BST, "Lightclock" <andrew.batty@gmx.com> wrote:

    First it was Virgin Media removing write access to their NNTP service.
    Google Groups have done the same with their NNTP <=> HTTP service now.
    Original Usenet service is OK with a small subscription fee. I'm officially
    in old age now like all the classical "commonly known telnet sockets". I >> don't like it. There is no upside to it.

    Andy G8OZD

    The only tiny upside to it is that at least people won't be able to post from Google Groups.


    True, but what they could and should have done is to keep the gateway read-only. It's a pain now to search the Usenet. Narkive is
    unpredictable. There are other 3rd party tools which are r/w (like
    Rocksolid) and potentially open to abuse.



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    Ottavio Caruso

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  • From A. non Eyemouse@21:1/5 to Ottavio Caruso on Tue Aug 13 11:55:31 2024
    On 05/08/2024 14:17, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
    Le 04/07/2024 à 20:52, Roger Hayter a écrit :
    On 4 Jul 2024 at 20:30:32 BST, "Lightclock" <andrew.batty@gmx.com> wrote:

    First it was Virgin Media removing write access to their NNTP service.
      Google Groups have done the same with their NNTP <=> HTTP service now. >>>   Original Usenet service is OK with a small subscription fee. I'm
    officially
      in old age now like all the classical "commonly known telnet
    sockets". I
      don't like it. There is no upside to it.

    Andy G8OZD

    The only tiny upside to it is that at least people won't be able to
    post from
    Google Groups.


    True, but what they could and should have done is to keep the gateway read-only. It's a pain now to search the Usenet. Narkive is
    unpredictable. There are other 3rd party tools which are r/w (like
    Rocksolid) and potentially open to abuse.




    If you're serious about usenet archives then Giganews claim to have 20+
    years retention on text groups, including everything with X-no-archive
    set. You'll have to pull down all the headers and process it yourself
    though.

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  • From Jim GM4DHJ ...@21:1/5 to A. non Eyemouse on Thu Aug 15 09:06:28 2024
    On 8/13/2024 11:55 AM, A. non Eyemouse wrote:
    On 05/08/2024 14:17, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
    Le 04/07/2024 à 20:52, Roger Hayter a écrit :
    On 4 Jul 2024 at 20:30:32 BST, "Lightclock" <andrew.batty@gmx.com>
    wrote:

    First it was Virgin Media removing write access to their NNTP service. >>>>   Google Groups have done the same with their NNTP <=> HTTP service
    now.
      Original Usenet service is OK with a small subscription fee. I'm
    officially
      in old age now like all the classical "commonly known telnet
    sockets". I
      don't like it. There is no upside to it.

    Andy G8OZD

    The only tiny upside to it is that at least people won't be able to
    post from
    Google Groups.


    True, but what they could and should have done is to keep the gateway
    read-only. It's a pain now to search the Usenet. Narkive is
    unpredictable. There are other 3rd party tools which are r/w (like
    Rocksolid) and potentially open to abuse.




    If you're serious about usenet archives then Giganews claim to have 20+
    years retention on text groups, including everything with X-no-archive
    set. You'll have to pull down all the headers and process it yourself
    though.

    brian won't like that

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