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On 22/11/2024 15:25, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
I mean without programmed chips? And again, mainstream as in:
established brand names, not experimental kits.
In other words, apart from self builds, is analog ham dead?
(Not that I have the money to buy it anyway, just curiosity)
What do you classify as mainstream? Is this the Yaesu/Icom/Kenwood
offerings?
And what exactly do you mean by "analog ham" dead. There is plenty of
SSB and CW* on the bands which are analogue modes using older kit
without a microprocessor in sight.
*in this context CW is considered to be an analogue mode.
*in this context CW is considered to be an analogue mode.
This is not the point. I mean a whole rig without digital stuff in it.
try to find an
IC-202E with its crystal VCXO tuning or maybe the Mizuho SB-2M.
On 23/11/2024 15:30, Brian Morrison wrote:
try to find an
IC-202E with its crystal VCXO tuning or maybe the Mizuho SB-2M.
Trio/Kenwood TR-7010. But not the one advertised on eBay producing
12W. If it's giving 12W it's been fucked with by with a rig-doctor.
Le 22/11/2024 à 16:56, David a écrit :
On 22/11/2024 15:25, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
I mean without programmed chips? And again, mainstream as in:
established brand names, not experimental kits.
In other words, apart from self builds, is analog ham dead?
(Not that I have the money to buy it anyway, just curiosity)
What do you classify as mainstream? Is this the Yaesu/Icom/Kenwood
offerings?
Yaesu/Icom/Kenwood have been offering rigs with programmable chips for ages.
And what exactly do you mean by "analog ham" dead. There is plenty of
SSB and CW* on the bands which are analogue modes using older kit
without a microprocessor in sight.
*in this context CW is considered to be an analogue mode.
This is not the point. I mean a whole rig without digital stuff in it.
I mean without programmed chips? And again, mainstream as in:
established brand names, not experimental kits.
In other words, apart from self builds, is analog ham dead?
(Not that I have the money to buy it anyway, just curiosity)
I mean without programmed chips? And again, mainstream as in:
established brand names, not experimental kits.
In other words, apart from self builds, is analog ham dead?
(Not that I have the money to buy it anyway, just curiosity)
I mean without programmed chips? And again, mainstream as in:
established brand names, not experimental kits.
In other words, apart from self builds, is analog ham dead?
(Not that I have the money to buy it anyway, just curiosity)
Yaesu made the FT227R ( I think that was the model), a 2m mobile which was very popular. Icom made the famous and highly successful IC2E which was the UV5r of the time ( albeit it Japanese quality etc).=======
On 24/11/2024 12:39, Brian wrote:
Yaesu made the FT227R ( I think that was the model), a 2m mobile which was >> very popular. Icom made the famous and highly successful IC2E which was the >> UV5r of the time ( albeit it Japanese quality etc).=======
Yes ,the good old FT227R 2m-70cms handheld .......I still use ,now with
3 pcs Li-Ion cell replacing the 10 pcs NiMH cells (providing 12 V @ 1.5Ah)
The pancake type Li-cell for holding memory is long gone ,but by means
of 2 Continent codes I can still happily use the radio in the USA
(channel spacing 10kHz) as well as in Europe (channel spacing 12.5 kHz
Frank , EI7KS , KN6WH ,GM0CSZ
wicklowham <wicklowham.nospam@rfburns.eu> wrote:
On 24/11/2024 12:39, Brian wrote:
Yaesu made the FT227R ( I think that was the model), a 2m mobile=======
which was very popular. Icom made the famous and highly successful
IC2E which was the UV5r of the time ( albeit it Japanese quality
etc).
Yes ,the good old FT227R 2m-70cms handheld .......I still use ,now
with 3 pcs Li-Ion cell replacing the 10 pcs NiMH cells (providing
12 V @ 1.5Ah) The pancake type Li-cell for holding memory is long
gone ,but by means of 2 Continent codes I can still happily use the
radio in the USA (channel spacing 10kHz) as well as in Europe
(channel spacing 12.5 kHz
Frank , EI7KS , KN6WH ,GM0CSZ
The FT227R was a mobile.
I think the handheld was the FT207R- at least the 2m one.
Ottavio Caruso <ottavio2006-usenet2012@yahoo.com> wrote:
I mean without programmed chips? And again, mainstream as in:
established brand names, not experimental kits.
In other words, apart from self builds, is analog ham dead?
(Not that I have the money to buy it anyway, just curiosity)
I canÆt think of anything new or even recent ( well over a decade if not
two or more).
I was first licensed in 1978 and æbasicÆ digital features crept in soon
after - by basic features I mean displays etc. I suspect there were other >digital functions but I donÆt recall any.
The early digital frequency synthesised radios ( as they were generally >known) appeared around then.
Yaesu made the FT227R ( I think that was the model), a 2m mobile which was >very popular. Icom made the famous and highly successful IC2E which was the >UV5r of the time ( albeit it Japanese quality etc).
Then there was the Icom 2m multimode- IC211? Yaesu and Trio ( as Kenwood >were in the UK at the time) countered by undating their 221 and 700 with >digital displays but kept their analogue PPLs.
It wasnÆt long before digital took over.
Companies which didnÆt follow the trend vanished.
KW, a UK company tried to come back - they had made some good HF kit - but, >despite producing some good æ simpleÆ * designs, seem to have vanished- at >least as far as I am aware.
* not intended to be derogatory. I mean focusing on performance, not æbells >and whistlesÆ. The bottom line, people seem to favour lots of functions.
I have several HF radios, including an IC708, a basic HF radio, and an >IC756Pro3 ( top of the range at the time). I still prefer the 708 in some >ways.
If you want a basic HF radio, an IC 708 is a good choice, as is a Kenwood >450. They are digital but not over the top.
The 708 does need a good 12V supply. Jimbo will be along to tell you he
hates it as it drops power out if the supply drops below 13V. IÆve not seen >it that bad but some seem prone to it. IÆve tried two, both were ok down to >12V. You can add a DSP unit, if you can source one. It plugs internally. A >15 min job. Easy to do.
On Sun, 24 Nov 2024 12:39:43 -0000 (UTC), Brian <noinv@lid.org> wrote:
Ottavio Caruso <ottavio2006-usenet2012@yahoo.com> wrote:
I mean without programmed chips? And again, mainstream as in:
established brand names, not experimental kits.
In other words, apart from self builds, is analog ham dead?
(Not that I have the money to buy it anyway, just curiosity)
I can’t think of anything new or even recent ( well over a decade if not >> two or more).
I was first licensed in 1978 and ‘basic’ digital features crept in soon >> after - by basic features I mean displays etc. I suspect there were other
digital functions but I don’t recall any.
The early digital frequency synthesised radios ( as they were generally
known) appeared around then.
Yaesu made the FT227R ( I think that was the model), a 2m mobile which was >> very popular. Icom made the famous and highly successful IC2E which was the >> UV5r of the time ( albeit it Japanese quality etc).
Then there was the Icom 2m multimode- IC211? Yaesu and Trio ( as Kenwood
were in the UK at the time) countered by undating their 221 and 700 with
digital displays but kept their analogue PPLs.
It wasn’t long before digital took over.
Companies which didn’t follow the trend vanished.
KW, a UK company tried to come back - they had made some good HF kit - but, >> despite producing some good ‘ simple’ * designs, seem to have vanished- at
least as far as I am aware.
* not intended to be derogatory. I mean focusing on performance, not ‘bells
and whistles’. The bottom line, people seem to favour lots of functions. >> I have several HF radios, including an IC708, a basic HF radio, and an
IC756Pro3 ( top of the range at the time). I still prefer the 708 in some
ways.
If you want a basic HF radio, an IC 708 is a good choice, as is a Kenwood
450. They are digital but not over the top.
The 708 does need a good 12V supply. Jimbo will be along to tell you he
hates it as it drops power out if the supply drops below 13V. I’ve not seen
it that bad but some seem prone to it. I’ve tried two, both were ok down to
12V. You can add a DSP unit, if you can source one. It plugs internally. A >> 15 min job. Easy to do.
A real Radioman would know the difference between an Icom 708 and and
an Icom 718 .........
Just keep clear of anything that uses a sweep tube in the PA, they are >unobtainium.