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...happy burfday dear GM4DHJ happy burfday to me....tee hee July 1974
got my one and only callsign ....
On Tue, 23 Jul 2024 08:14:48 +0100
"Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:
...happy burfday dear GM4DHJ happy burfday to me....tee hee July 1974
got my one and only callsign ....
How's the noise from the M8 Jim?
And congrats on 50 years, I have 45.5 so far also with one callsign.
On 23 Jul 2024 13:39:31 GMT
Roger Hayter <roger@hayter.org> wrote:
On 23 Jul 2024 at 13:43:49 BST, "Brian Morrison" <news@fenrir.org.uk>
wrote:
On Tue, 23 Jul 2024 08:14:48 +0100
"Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:
...happy burfday dear GM4DHJ happy burfday to me....tee hee July
1974 got my one and only callsign ....
How's the noise from the M8 Jim?
And congrats on 50 years, I have 45.5 so far also with one
callsign.
57 But then it is a lowly G8!
There's nothing lowly about Jaits Roger.
On 23 Jul 2024 at 13:43:49 BST, "Brian Morrison" <news@fenrir.org.uk>
wrote:
On Tue, 23 Jul 2024 08:14:48 +0100
"Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:
...happy burfday dear GM4DHJ happy burfday to me....tee hee July
1974 got my one and only callsign ....
How's the noise from the M8 Jim?
And congrats on 50 years, I have 45.5 so far also with one
callsign.
57 But then it is a lowly G8!
...happy burfday dear GM4DHJ happy burfday to me....tee hee July 1974
got my one and only callsign ....
https://www.qrz.com/db/GM4DHJ
On 23 Jul 2024 at 18:09:33 BST, "Brian Morrison" <news@fenrir.org.uk> wrote:
On 23 Jul 2024 13:39:31 GMT
Roger Hayter <roger@hayter.org> wrote:
On 23 Jul 2024 at 13:43:49 BST, "Brian Morrison" <news@fenrir.org.uk>
wrote:
On Tue, 23 Jul 2024 08:14:48 +0100
"Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:
...happy burfday dear GM4DHJ happy burfday to me....tee hee July
1974 got my one and only callsign ....
How's the noise from the M8 Jim?
And congrats on 50 years, I have 45.5 so far also with one
callsign.
57 But then it is a lowly G8!
There's nothing lowly about Jaits Roger.
There was a certain element of sarcasm ...
On 23 Jul 2024 13:39:31 GMT
Roger Hayter <roger@hayter.org> wrote:
On 23 Jul 2024 at 13:43:49 BST, "Brian Morrison" <news@fenrir.org.uk>
wrote:
On Tue, 23 Jul 2024 08:14:48 +0100
"Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:
...happy burfday dear GM4DHJ happy burfday to me....tee hee July
1974 got my one and only callsign ....
How's the noise from the M8 Jim?
And congrats on 50 years, I have 45.5 so far also with one
callsign.
57 But then it is a lowly G8!
There's nothing lowly about Jaits Roger.
On 7/23/2024 6:09 PM, Brian Morrison wrote:behold
On 23 Jul 2024 13:39:31 GMTwell most class Bs were professional electronic punters who walked
Roger Hayter <roger@hayter.org> wrote:
On 23 Jul 2024 at 13:43:49 BST, "Brian Morrison" <news@fenrir.org.uk>
wrote:
On Tue, 23 Jul 2024 08:14:48 +0100
"Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:
...happy burfday dear GM4DHJ happy burfday to me....tee hee July
1974 got my one and only callsign ....
How's the noise from the M8 Jim?
And congrats on 50 years, I have 45.5 so far also with one
callsign.
57 But then it is a lowly G8!
There's nothing lowly about Jaits Roger.
through the exam and were too lazy to pass the morse test....They said
they were not interested in HF...but low and belold within the 10momths
after the foundation came out they couldn't wait to get on HF with an M3.....what a joke! ..... brian was one of them...tee hee...now the
whole system has gone to hell in a wheelbarrow so who cares.....high
power ...grave rob a callsign after 5 years ...anybody can talk with
your callsign...etc etc
On Tue, 23 Jul 2024 08:14:48 +0100
"Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:
...happy burfday dear GM4DHJ happy burfday to me....tee hee July 1974
got my one and only callsign ....
How's the noise from the M8 Jim?
well most class Bs were professional electronic punters who walked
through the exam
On 7/23/2024 1:43 PM, Brian Morrison wrote:
On Tue, 23 Jul 2024 08:14:48 +0100
"Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:
...happy burfday dear GM4DHJ happy burfday to me....tee hee July
1974 got my one and only callsign ....
How's the noise from the M8 Jim?
what?...the motorway?
On Fri, 26 Jul 2024 08:40:38 +0100
"Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:
well most class Bs were professional electronic punters who walked
through the exam
I sat the RAE while I was at school, but I did go on to become a
professional RF engineer.
On Fri, 26 Jul 2024 08:28:33 +0100
"Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:
On 7/23/2024 1:43 PM, Brian Morrison wrote:
On Tue, 23 Jul 2024 08:14:48 +0100
"Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:
...happy burfday dear GM4DHJ happy burfday to me....tee hee July
1974 got my one and only callsign ....
How's the noise from the M8 Jim?
what?...the motorway?
Yes, I don't think that any M8 or M9 licences have been issued yet.
On 26/07/2024 15:27, Brian Morrison wrote:
On Fri, 26 Jul 2024 08:40:38 +0100
"Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:
well most class Bs were professional electronic punters who walked
through the exam
I sat the RAE while I was at school, but I did go on to become a professional RF engineer.
Jim doesn't like professionals in the hobby.
Aren't the ILs going to be allowed to convert their weird 2x
callsigns into M8s and M9s, which at least sort-of resemble something
from the UK?
On Fri, 26 Jul 2024 08:40:38 +0100
"Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:
well most class Bs were professional electronic punters who walked
through the exam
I sat the RAE while I was at school, but I did go on to become a
professional RF engineer.
Jim doesn't like professionals in the hobby.
I had been in the hobby for roughly 7 years before I became a
professional.
BUT YOU DID
On 7/26/2024 9:40 PM, Brian Morrison wrote:
On Fri, 26 Jul 2024 21:09:45 +0100
Ian Jackson <ianREMOVETHISjackson@g3ohx.co.uk> wrote:
Aren't the ILs going to be allowed to convert their weird 2x
callsigns into M8s and M9s, which at least sort-of resemble
something from the UK?
Yes, once Ofcom have updated their licensing platform software to
allow this.
wish they would hurry up and take away all those multiple callsigns
people hold
On 27/07/2024 13:56, Brian Morrison wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jul 2024 10:00:07 +0100
"Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:
[...]On 7/26/2024 9:40 PM, Brian Morrison wrote:
[...]
[...]
wish they would hurry up and take away all those multiple callsigns
people hold
I think that is being done as they work through the licences withNope. I've still got all of mine (2x full, 2x club) and have been
the updated conditions being sent out by whatever means is being
used.
emailed by the nice people at Ofcom about the new conditions.
In message <20240726152521.7eed049a@fwd3.hosts.co.uk>, Brian Morrison <news@fenrir.org.uk> writes
On Fri, 26 Jul 2024 08:28:33 +0100Aren't the ILs going to be allowed to convert their weird 2x callsigns
"Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:
On 7/23/2024 1:43 PM, Brian Morrison wrote:
On Tue, 23 Jul 2024 08:14:48 +0100
"Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:
...happy burfday dear GM4DHJ happy burfday to me....tee hee July
1974 got my one and only callsign ....
How's the noise from the M8 Jim?
what?...the motorway?
Yes, I don't think that any M8 or M9 licences have been issued yet.
into M8s and M9s, which at least sort-of resemble something from the UK?
On Sat, 27 Jul 2024 10:00:07 +0100
"Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:
On 7/26/2024 9:40 PM, Brian Morrison wrote:
On Fri, 26 Jul 2024 21:09:45 +0100wish they would hurry up and take away all those multiple callsigns
Ian Jackson <ianREMOVETHISjackson@g3ohx.co.uk> wrote:
Aren't the ILs going to be allowed to convert their weird 2x
callsigns into M8s and M9s, which at least sort-of resemble
something from the UK?
Yes, once Ofcom have updated their licensing platform software to
allow this.
people hold
I think that is being done as they work through the licences with the
updated conditions being sent out by whatever means is being used.
On 26/07/2024 21:09, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message <20240726152521.7eed049a@fwd3.hosts.co.uk>, Brian Morrison >><news@fenrir.org.uk> writes
On Fri, 26 Jul 2024 08:28:33 +0100Aren't the ILs going to be allowed to convert their weird 2x
"Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:
On 7/23/2024 1:43 PM, Brian Morrison wrote:
On Tue, 23 Jul 2024 08:14:48 +0100
"Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:
...happy burfday dear GM4DHJ happy burfday to me....tee hee July
1974 got my one and only callsign ....
How's the noise from the M8 Jim?
what?...the motorway?
Yes, I don't think that any M8 or M9 licences have been issued yet.
callsigns into M8s and M9s, which at least sort-of resemble something
from the UK?
Hmm yes, 2x calls very un-UK. OK hang on, wasn't 2MT a UK station? 2LO
was one as well. When was that? 1922. What were you saying about 2x
calls not resembling UK calls.
In message <v8376p$3f6jp$2@dont-email.me>, mm0fmf <none@invalid.com> writes2 prefix even predates you which is impressive ;-)
On 26/07/2024 21:09, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message <20240726152521.7eed049a@fwd3.hosts.co.uk>, Brian Morrison
<news@fenrir.org.uk> writes
On Fri, 26 Jul 2024 08:28:33 +0100Aren't the ILs going to be allowed to convert their weird 2x
"Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:
On 7/23/2024 1:43 PM, Brian Morrison wrote:
On Tue, 23 Jul 2024 08:14:48 +0100
"Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:
...happy burfday dear GM4DHJ happy burfday to me....tee hee July
1974 got my one and only callsign ....
How's the noise from the M8 Jim?
what?...the motorway?
Yes, I don't think that any M8 or M9 licences have been issued yet.
callsigns into M8s and M9s, which at least sort-of resemble
something from the UK?
Hmm yes, 2x calls very un-UK. OK hang on, wasn't 2MT a UK station? 2LO
was one as well. When was that? 1922. What were you saying about 2x
calls not resembling UK calls.
Yebbut......
of course that was in the days when no country prefix was used/needed.
As well as 2xx, other BBC stations had 5xx and 6xx callsigns. Later G
was added (although, apart from the very early stations, I don't think
the public was ever aware of official callsigns). They didn't resemble
IL format. That said, historically 2 is one of the ancient UK country prefixes.
On Sat, 27 Jul 2024 17:24:48 +0100
mm0fmf <none@invalid.com> wrote:
On 27/07/2024 13:56, Brian Morrison wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jul 2024 10:00:07 +0100[...]
"Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:
On 7/26/2024 9:40 PM, Brian Morrison wrote:
[...]
[...]
Nope. I've still got all of mine (2x full, 2x club) and have beenwish they would hurry up and take away all those multiple callsigns
people hold
I think that is being done as they work through the licences with
the updated conditions being sent out by whatever means is being
used.
emailed by the nice people at Ofcom about the new conditions.
OK, maybe it will require the new licensing platform software to be
there first.
On 03/08/2024 08:39, Ian Jackson wrote:
AIUI, no one was ever supposed
Lots of things are supposed not to happen. Enforcing the "rules"
requires a will and the resources to carry out the will. The will now
seems to be driven by ensuring Ofcom doesn't run out of callsigns. You
don't run out if you recycle old calls no longer in use.
I have to admit that I'm not quite sure what the latest ruling is.
Are we now supposed to have only one personal callsign (of any kind)?
Didn't you read all the nice information Ofcom released about the
changes? You're not still clinging to some old outdated BR68 are you?
At least they don't seem to have decided to grave-rob the G3s (and
the other old Class-As), and re-issue their callsigns to Foundations!
Your support for the fine traditions and gentlemanly pursuits of
hammery are clear. You are G4SDW AICMFP. ;-)
In message <v8kt27$3ct6r$1@dont-email.me>, mm0fmf <none@invalid.com> writes
On 03/08/2024 08:39, Ian Jackson wrote:
AIUI, no one was ever supposed
Lots of things are supposed not to happen. Enforcing the "rules"
requires a will and the resources to carry out the will. The will now
seems to be driven by ensuring Ofcom doesn't run out of callsigns. You
don't run out if you recycle old calls no longer in use.
It's obvious even to me that recycling will be necessary. However, it's
a pity there will be no way of ensuring it is obvious that the (say) G3
you hear on the air is a genuine newbie, and not some awkward old-timer
who is determined not to throw off his mortal coil.
I have to admit that I'm not quite sure what the latest ruling is.
Are we now supposed to have only one personal callsign (of any kind)?
Didn't you read all the nice information Ofcom released about the
changes? You're not still clinging to some old outdated BR68 are you?
No. I've read about the changes. It's just that I've forgotten what some
are. I was hoping you would put me straight in the matter.
At least they don't seem to have decided to grave-rob the G3s (and
the other old Class-As), and re-issue their callsigns to Foundations!
Your support for the fine traditions and gentlemanly pursuits of
hammery are clear. You are G4SDW AICMFP. ;-)
That won't go very far these days. It won't even get
you a pint of weak beer!
On 03/08/2024 13:44, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message <v8kt27$3ct6r$1@dont-email.me>, mm0fmf <none@invalid.com> writes >>> On 03/08/2024 08:39, Ian Jackson wrote:
It's obvious even to me that recycling will be necessary. However,
áAIUI, no one was ever supposed
Lots of things are supposed not to happen. Enforcing the "rules" >>>requires a will and the resources to carry out the will. The will now >>>seems to be driven by ensuring Ofcom doesn't run out of callsigns.
You don't run out if you recycle old calls no longer in use.
it's a pity there will be no way of ensuring it is obvious that the
(say) G3 you hear on the air is a genuine newbie, and not some
awkward old-timer who is determined not to throw off his mortal coil.
No. I've read about the changes. It's just that I've forgotten what
áI have to admit that I'm not quite sure what the latest ruling is. >>>>Are we now supposed to have only one personal callsign (of any
kind)?
Didn't you read all the nice information Ofcom released about the >>>changes? You're not still clinging to some old outdated BR68 are you?
some are. I was hoping you would put me straight in the matter.
That won't go very far these days. It won't even get
At least they don't seem to have decided to grave-rob the G3s (and >>>>theá other old Class-As), and re-issue their callsigns to Foundations!
Your support for the fine traditions and gentlemanly pursuits of
hammery are clear. You are G4SDW AICMFP. ;-)
you a pint of weak beer!
From what I recall they announced the changes as:
recycling calls returned to Ofcom either through death of the holder or
no longer wanting a licence
phasing out issuing 2xxxx IL calls and using M8/M9 calls instead
allowing existing 2xxxx call holders to exchange with an M8/M9 call
Only being allowed to hold one personal licence. So no multiple fulls
for people like me and nobody holding their M3 when they get a 2E and >likewise when they get a full.
To a large degree the changes requires updates to Ofcom's licencing
software ISTR. So many of the changes will not be put into practice
until that software is running.
Let's hope it's not Fujitsu doing the work or we'll all find we've
been allocated GM4DHJ and nobody will talk to us!
I also seem to remember the new software was expected late Autumn.
In message <v8lajv$3ele3$1@dont-email.me>, mm0fmf <none@invalid.com> writes
On 03/08/2024 13:44, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message <v8kt27$3ct6r$1@dont-email.me>, mm0fmf <none@invalid.com>
writes
On 03/08/2024 08:39, Ian Jackson wrote:It's obvious even to me that recycling will be necessary. However,
AIUI, no one was ever supposed
Lots of things are supposed not to happen. Enforcing the "rules"
requires a will and the resources to carry out the will. The will
now seems to be driven by ensuring Ofcom doesn't run out of
callsigns. You don't run out if you recycle old calls no longer in
use.
it's a pity there will be no way of ensuring it is obvious that the
(say) G3 you hear on the air is a genuine newbie, and not some
awkward old-timer who is determined not to throw off his mortal coil. >>>>
No. I've read about the changes. It's just that I've forgotten whatI have to admit that I'm not quite sure what the latest ruling is. >>>>> Are we now supposed to have only one personal callsign (of any kind)? >>>>>
Didn't you read all the nice information Ofcom released about the
changes? You're not still clinging to some old outdated BR68 are you?
some are. I was hoping you would put me straight in the matter.
That won't go very far these days. It won't even get
At least they don't seem to have decided to grave-rob the G3s (andYour support for the fine traditions and gentlemanly pursuits of
the other old Class-As), and re-issue their callsigns to Foundations! >>>>
hammery are clear. You are G4SDW AICMFP. ;-)
you a pint of weak beer!
From what I recall they announced the changes as:
recycling calls returned to Ofcom either through death of the holder
or no longer wanting a licence
phasing out issuing 2xxxx IL calls and using M8/M9 calls instead
allowing existing 2xxxx call holders to exchange with an M8/M9 call
Only being allowed to hold one personal licence. So no multiple fulls
for people like me and nobody holding their M3 when they get a 2E and
likewise when they get a full.
Mni tnx fer the info.
To a large degree the changes requires updates to Ofcom's licencing
software ISTR. So many of the changes will not be put into practice
until that software is running.
I would have thought that good old Excel would be adequate for the job. Still, why use an old tried and tested wheel when you can invent a newer
one?
Let's hope it's not Fujitsu doing the work or we'll all find we've
been allocated GM4DHJ and nobody will talk to us!
:o))
Does that include time for the inevitable debugging?
I also seem to remember the new software was expected late Autumn.
In message <v8370h$3f6jp$1@dont-email.me>, mm0fmf <none@invalid.com>
writes
On 27/07/2024 13:56, Brian Morrison wrote:Don't you have to be a 'really very special person' to hold more than
On Sat, 27 Jul 2024 10:00:07 +0100Nope. I've still got all of mine (2x full, 2x club) and have been
"Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:
On 7/26/2024 9:40 PM, Brian Morrison wrote:I think that is being done as they work through the licences with
On Fri, 26 Jul 2024 21:09:45 +0100wish they would hurry up and take away all those multiple callsigns
Ian Jackson <ianREMOVETHISjackson@g3ohx.co.uk> wrote:
Aren't the ILs going to be allowed to convert their weird 2x
callsigns into M8s and M9s, which at least sort-of resemble
something from the UK?
Yes, once Ofcom have updated their licensing platform software to
allow this.
people hold
the
updated conditions being sent out by whatever means is being used.
emailed by the nice people at Ofcom about the new conditions.
one personal callsign of the same class?
In message <v7nl8v$13tlb$1@dont-email.me>, Jim GM4DHJ ... <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> writesyou going to port seton next friday ?
...happy burfday dear GM4DHJ happy burfday to me....tee hee July 1974
got my one and only callsign ....
https://www.qrz.com/db/GM4DHJ
Sept 1974, but I was a lazy bottomed Class B before then.
Brian
On 03/08/2024 13:44, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message <v8kt27$3ct6r$1@dont-email.me>, mm0fmf <none@invalid.com>
writes
On 03/08/2024 08:39, Ian Jackson wrote:
AIUI, no one was ever supposed
Lots of things are supposed not to happen. Enforcing the "rules"
requires a will and the resources to carry out the will. The will now
seems to be driven by ensuring Ofcom doesn't run out of callsigns.
You don't run out if you recycle old calls no longer in use.
It's obvious even to me that recycling will be necessary. However,
it's a pity there will be no way of ensuring it is obvious that the
(say) G3 you hear on the air is a genuine newbie, and not some awkward
old-timer who is determined not to throw off his mortal coil.
I have to admit that I'm not quite sure what the latest ruling is.
Are we now supposed to have only one personal callsign (of any kind)?
Didn't you read all the nice information Ofcom released about the
changes? You're not still clinging to some old outdated BR68 are you?
No. I've read about the changes. It's just that I've forgotten what
some are. I was hoping you would put me straight in the matter.
At least they don't seem to have decided to grave-rob the G3s (andYour support for the fine traditions and gentlemanly pursuits of
the other old Class-As), and re-issue their callsigns to Foundations! >>>
hammery are clear. You are G4SDW AICMFP. ;-)
That won't go very far these days. It won't even get
you a pint of weak beer!
From what I recall they announced the changes as:
recycling calls returned to Ofcom either through death of the holder or
no longer wanting a licence
phasing out issuing 2xxxx IL calls and using M8/M9 calls instead
allowing existing 2xxxx call holders to exchange with an M8/M9 call
Only being allowed to hold one personal licence. So no multiple fulls
for people like me and nobody holding their M3 when they get a 2E and likewise when they get a full.
To a large degree the changes requires updates to Ofcom's licencing
software ISTR. So many of the changes will not be put into practice
until that software is running. Let's hope it's not Fujitsu doing the
work or we'll all find we've been allocated GM4DHJ and nobody will talk
to us!
On 8/3/2024 2:16 PM, mm0fmf wrote:
On 03/08/2024 13:44, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message <v8kt27$3ct6r$1@dont-email.me>, mm0fmf <none@invalid.com>
writes
On 03/08/2024 08:39, Ian Jackson wrote:It's obvious even to me that recycling will be necessary. However,
AIUI, no one was ever supposed
Lots of things are supposed not to happen. Enforcing the "rules"
requires a will and the resources to carry out the will. The will
now seems to be driven by ensuring Ofcom doesn't run out of
callsigns. You don't run out if you recycle old calls no longer in use. >>>
it's a pity there will be no way of ensuring it is obvious that the
(say) G3 you hear on the air is a genuine newbie, and not some
awkward old-timer who is determined not to throw off his mortal coil.
I have to admit that I'm not quite sure what the latest ruling is. >>>>> Are we now supposed to have only one personal callsign (of any kind)? >>>>>
Didn't you read all the nice information Ofcom released about the
changes? You're not still clinging to some old outdated BR68 are you?
No. I've read about the changes. It's just that I've forgotten what
some are. I was hoping you would put me straight in the matter.
At least they don't seem to have decided to grave-rob the G3s (andYour support for the fine traditions and gentlemanly pursuits of
the other old Class-As), and re-issue their callsigns to Foundations! >>>>
hammery are clear. You are G4SDW AICMFP. ;-)
That won't go very far these days. It won't even get
you a pint of weak beer!
From what I recall they announced the changes as:
recycling calls returned to Ofcom either through death of the holder
or no longer wanting a licence
phasing out issuing 2xxxx IL calls and using M8/M9 calls instead
allowing existing 2xxxx call holders to exchange with an M8/M9 call
Only being allowed to hold one personal licence. So no multiple fulls
for people like me and nobody holding their M3 when they get a 2E and
likewise when they get a full.
To a large degree the changes requires updates to Ofcom's licencing
software ISTR. So many of the changes will not be put into practice
until that software is running. Let's hope it's not Fujitsu doing the
work or we'll all find we've been allocated GM4DHJ and nobody will
talk to us!
great idea
On 23 Jul 2024 at 18:09:33 BST, "Brian Morrison" <news@fenrir.org.uk> wrote:
On 23 Jul 2024 13:39:31 GMT
Roger Hayter <roger@hayter.org> wrote:
On 23 Jul 2024 at 13:43:49 BST, "Brian Morrison" <news@fenrir.org.uk>
wrote:
On Tue, 23 Jul 2024 08:14:48 +0100
"Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:
...happy burfday dear GM4DHJ happy burfday to me....tee hee July
1974 got my one and only callsign ....
How's the noise from the M8 Jim?
And congrats on 50 years, I have 45.5 so far also with one
callsign.
57 But then it is a lowly G8!
There's nothing lowly about Jaits Roger.
There was a certain element of sarcasm ...
On 7/23/2024 10:17 PM, brian wrote:
In message <v7nl8v$13tlb$1@dont-email.me>, Jim GM4DHJ ... >><kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> writesyou going to port seton next friday ?
...happy burfday dear GM4DHJ happy burfday to me....tee hee JulySept 1974, but I was a lazy bottomed Class B before then.
1974 got my one and only callsign ....
https://www.qrz.com/db/GM4DHJ
Brian
On 27/07/2024 13:56, Brian Morrison wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jul 2024 10:00:07 +0100Nope. I've still got all of mine (2x full, 2x club) and have been
"Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:
On 7/26/2024 9:40 PM, Brian Morrison wrote:
On Fri, 26 Jul 2024 21:09:45 +0100wish they would hurry up and take away all those multiple callsigns
Ian Jackson <ianREMOVETHISjackson@g3ohx.co.uk> wrote:
Aren't the ILs going to be allowed to convert their weird 2x
callsigns into M8s and M9s, which at least sort-of resemble
something from the UK?
Yes, once Ofcom have updated their licensing platform software to
allow this.
people hold
I think that is being done as they work through the licences with the
updated conditions being sent out by whatever means is being used.
emailed by the nice people at Ofcom about the new conditions.
In message <v8o900$4iv4$4@dont-email.me>, Jim GM4DHJ ... <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> writeslucky you
On 7/23/2024 10:17 PM, brian wrote:
In message <v7nl8v$13tlb$1@dont-email.me>, Jim GM4DHJ ...you going to port seton next friday ?
<kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> writes
...happy burfday dear GM4DHJ happy burfday to me....tee hee JulySept 1974, but I was a lazy bottomed Class B before then.
1974 got my one and only callsign ....
https://www.qrz.com/db/GM4DHJ
Brian
I'll be on holiday.
Brian
On 23 Jul 2024 at 18:09:33 BST, "Brian Morrison" <news@fenrir.org.uk> wrote:
On 23 Jul 2024 13:39:31 GMT
Roger Hayter <roger@hayter.org> wrote:
On 23 Jul 2024 at 13:43:49 BST, "Brian Morrison" <news@fenrir.org.uk>
wrote:
On Tue, 23 Jul 2024 08:14:48 +0100
"Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:
...happy burfday dear GM4DHJ happy burfday to me....tee hee July
1974 got my one and only callsign ....
How's the noise from the M8 Jim?
And congrats on 50 years, I have 45.5 so far also with one
callsign.
57 But then it is a lowly G8!
There's nothing lowly about Jaits Roger.
There was a certain element of sarcasm ...
In message <v7nl8v$13tlb$1@dont-email.me>, Jim GM4DHJ ... <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> writesshocking
...happy burfday dear GM4DHJ happy burfday to me....tee hee July 1974
got my one and only callsign ....
https://www.qrz.com/db/GM4DHJ
Sept 1974, but I was a lazy bottomed Class B before then.
Brian
On Sat, 27 Jul 2024 10:00:07 +0100
"Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:
On 7/26/2024 9:40 PM, Brian Morrison wrote:
On Fri, 26 Jul 2024 21:09:45 +0100wish they would hurry up and take away all those multiple callsigns
Ian Jackson <ianREMOVETHISjackson@g3ohx.co.uk> wrote:
Aren't the ILs going to be allowed to convert their weird 2x
callsigns into M8s and M9s, which at least sort-of resemble
something from the UK?
Yes, once Ofcom have updated their licensing platform software to
allow this.
people hold
I think that is being done as they work through the licences with the
updated conditions being sent out by whatever means is being used.
On Fri, 26 Jul 2024 21:09:45 +0100
Ian Jackson <ianREMOVETHISjackson@g3ohx.co.uk> wrote:
Aren't the ILs going to be allowed to convert their weird 2x
callsigns into M8s and M9s, which at least sort-of resemble something
from the UK?
Yes, once Ofcom have updated their licensing platform software to allow
this.
On 7/23/2024 6:09 PM, Brian Morrison wrote:
On 23 Jul 2024 13:39:31 GMTwell most class Bs were professional electronic punters who walked
Roger Hayter <roger@hayter.org> wrote:
On 23 Jul 2024 at 13:43:49 BST, "Brian Morrison" <news@fenrir.org.uk>
wrote:
On Tue, 23 Jul 2024 08:14:48 +0100
"Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:
...happy burfday dear GM4DHJ happy burfday to me....tee hee July
1974 got my one and only callsign ....
How's the noise from the M8 Jim?
And congrats on 50 years, I have 45.5 so far also with one
callsign.
57 But then it is a lowly G8!
There's nothing lowly about Jaits Roger.
through the exam and were too lazy to pass the morse test....They said
they were not interested in HF...but low and belold within the 10momths
after the foundation came out they couldn't wait to get on HF with an M3.....what a joke! ..... brian was one of them...tee hee...now the
whole system has gone to hell in a wheelbarrow so who cares.....high
power ...grave rob a callsign after 5 years ...anybody can talk with
your callsign...etc etc
On Fri, 26 Jul 2024 08:40:38 +0100
"Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:
well most class Bs were professional electronic punters who walked
through the exam
I sat the RAE while I was at school, but I did go on to become a
professional RF engineer.
On 26/07/2024 15:27, Brian Morrison wrote:YOU ARE RIGHT THERE....
On Fri, 26 Jul 2024 08:40:38 +0100Jim doesn't like professionals in the hobby.
"Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:
well most class Bs were professional electronic punters who walked
through the exam
I sat the RAE while I was at school, but I did go on to become a
professional RF engineer.
On Fri, 26 Jul 2024 16:14:18 +0100
mm0fmf <none@invalid.com> wrote:
On 26/07/2024 15:27, Brian Morrison wrote:
On Fri, 26 Jul 2024 08:40:38 +0100Jim doesn't like professionals in the hobby.
"Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:
well most class Bs were professional electronic punters who walked
through the exam
I sat the RAE while I was at school, but I did go on to become a
professional RF engineer.
I had been in the hobby for roughly 7 years before I became a
professional.
Jim GM4DHJ ... <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:
On 7/23/2024 6:09 PM, Brian Morrison wrote:
On 23 Jul 2024 13:39:31 GMTwell most class Bs were professional electronic punters who walked
Roger Hayter <roger@hayter.org> wrote:
On 23 Jul 2024 at 13:43:49 BST, "Brian Morrison" <news@fenrir.org.uk>
wrote:
On Tue, 23 Jul 2024 08:14:48 +0100
"Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:
...happy burfday dear GM4DHJ happy burfday to me....tee hee July
1974 got my one and only callsign ....
How's the noise from the M8 Jim?
And congrats on 50 years, I have 45.5 so far also with one
callsign.
57 But then it is a lowly G8!
There's nothing lowly about Jaits Roger.
through the exam and were too lazy to pass the morse test....They said
they were not interested in HF...but low and belold within the 10momths
after the foundation came out they couldn't wait to get on HF with an
M3.....what a joke! ..... brian was one of them...tee hee...now the
whole system has gone to hell in a wheelbarrow so who cares.....high
power ...grave rob a callsign after 5 years ...anybody can talk with
your callsign...etc etc
Oh dear Jim, still whining because, like your hero, you are ‘technically challenged’ and missed out on that two letter call sign your local club got.
Oh well, at least you aren’t in jail like another usual reject.
On Fri, 26 Jul 2024 21:09:45 +0100
Ian Jackson <ianREMOVETHISjackson@g3ohx.co.uk> wrote:
Aren't the ILs going to be allowed to convert their weird 2x
callsigns into M8s and M9s, which at least sort-of resemble something
from the UK?
Yes, once Ofcom have updated their licensing platform software to allow
this.
On Fri, 26 Jul 2024 16:14:18 +0100
mm0fmf <none@invalid.com> wrote:
On 26/07/2024 15:27, Brian Morrison wrote:
On Fri, 26 Jul 2024 08:40:38 +0100Jim doesn't like professionals in the hobby.
"Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:
well most class Bs were professional electronic punters who walked
through the exam
I sat the RAE while I was at school, but I did go on to become a
professional RF engineer.
I had been in the hobby for roughly 7 years before I became a
professional.
On 27/07/2024 13:56, Brian Morrison wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jul 2024 10:00:07 +0100Nope. I've still got all of mine (2x full, 2x club) and have been
"Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:
On 7/26/2024 9:40 PM, Brian Morrison wrote:I think that is being done as they work through the licences with
On Fri, 26 Jul 2024 21:09:45 +0100wish they would hurry up and take away all those multiple callsigns
Ian Jackson <ianREMOVETHISjackson@g3ohx.co.uk> wrote:
Aren't the ILs going to be allowed to convert their weird 2x
callsigns into M8s and M9s, which at least sort-of resemble
something from the UK?
Yes, once Ofcom have updated their licensing platform software to
allow this.
people hold
the
updated conditions being sent out by whatever means is being used.
emailed by the nice people at Ofcom about the new conditions.
In message <v8370h$3f6jp$1@dont-email.me>, mm0fmf <none@invalid.com> writes
On 27/07/2024 13:56, Brian Morrison wrote:Don't you have to be a 'really very special person' to hold more than
On Sat, 27 Jul 2024 10:00:07 +0100Nope. I've still got all of mine (2x full, 2x club) and have been
"Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:
On 7/26/2024 9:40 PM, Brian Morrison wrote:I think that is being done as they work through the licences with the
On Fri, 26 Jul 2024 21:09:45 +0100wish they would hurry up and take away all those multiple callsigns
Ian Jackson <ianREMOVETHISjackson@g3ohx.co.uk> wrote:
Aren't the ILs going to be allowed to convert their weird 2x
callsigns into M8s and M9s, which at least sort-of resemble
something from the UK?
Yes, once Ofcom have updated their licensing platform software to
allow this.
people hold
updated conditions being sent out by whatever means is being used.
emailed by the nice people at Ofcom about the new conditions.
one personal callsign of the same class?
So it's starting to get difficult to know if that G4D?? call is 50
years old or 50 minutes :-)
On 02/08/2024 13:27, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message <v8370h$3f6jp$1@dont-email.me>, mm0fmf <none@invalid.com> writes >>> On 27/07/2024 13:56, Brian Morrison wrote:
Don't you have to be a 'really very special person' to hold more thanOn Sat, 27 Jul 2024 10:00:07 +0100Nope. I've still got all of mine (2x full, 2x club) and have been >>>emailed by the nice people at Ofcom about the new conditions.
"Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:
On 7/26/2024 9:40 PM, Brian Morrison wrote:áI think that is being done as they work through the licences with the >>>> updated conditions being sent out by whatever means is being used.
On Fri, 26 Jul 2024 21:09:45 +0100wish they would hurry up and take away all those multiple callsigns
Ian Jackson <ianREMOVETHISjackson@g3ohx.co.uk> wrote:
Aren't the ILs going to be allowed to convert their weird 2x
callsigns into M8s and M9s, which at least sort-of resemble
something from the UK?
Yes, once Ofcom have updated their licensing platform software to
allow this.
people hold
one personal callsign of the same class?
There are plenty of people who hold both their B and their later A
calls. At one time Ofcom were happy to extract money from people to
allow them resurrect their B calls in addition to their A. Plenty of
people use the different calls for purposes where they wanted to split >activities across their calls. e.g. use the A for HF activities and the
B for contesting, that kind of thing.
Now finally Ofcom are going to get rid of multiple personal calls of
the same level.
It doesn't bother me TBH... I'll just log in and relinquish one of
them and that's that. It will go into the pool and one day will be >reallocated. Just like yours will be a couple of years after you
shuffle off your mortal coil and join the choir invisible. Hopefully a
good few years away.
Maybe by that time the kudos of having a G3 will be completely
dissipated. As it stands many of the new full licence holders I've met
in the last 2-3 years are G3, G4 or G5 call holders instead of M0's. So
it's starting to get difficult to know if that G4D?? call is 50 years
old or 50 minutes :-)
AIUI, no one was ever supposed
I have to admit that I'm not quite sure what the latest ruling is. Are
we now supposed to have only one personal callsign (of any kind)?
At least they don't seem to have decided to grave-rob the G3s (and the
other old Class-As), and re-issue their callsigns to Foundations!
On 03/08/2024 19:57, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message <v8lajv$3ele3$1@dont-email.me>, mm0fmf <none@invalid.com> writes >>> On 03/08/2024 13:44, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message <v8kt27$3ct6r$1@dont-email.me>, mm0fmf <none@invalid.com>
writes
On 03/08/2024 08:39, Ian Jackson wrote:It's obvious even to me that recycling will be necessary. However,
AIUI, no one was ever supposed
Lots of things are supposed not to happen. Enforcing the "rules"
requires a will and the resources to carry out the will. The will
now seems to be driven by ensuring Ofcom doesn't run out of
callsigns. You don't run out if you recycle old calls no longer in >>>>> use.
it's a pity there will be no way of ensuring it is obvious that the
(say) G3 you hear on the air is a genuine newbie, and not some
awkward old-timer who is determined not to throw off his mortal coil. >>>>>
some are. I was hoping you would put me straight in the matter.I have to admit that I'm not quite sure what the latest ruling is. >>>>>> Are we now supposed to have only one personal callsign (of any kind)? >>>>>>
Didn't you read all the nice information Ofcom released about the
changes? You're not still clinging to some old outdated BR68 are you? >>>> No. I've read about the changes. It's just that I've forgotten what
That won't go very far these days. It won't even get
At least they don't seem to have decided to grave-rob the G3s (and >>>>>> the other old Class-As), and re-issue their callsigns to Foundations! >>>>>Your support for the fine traditions and gentlemanly pursuits of
hammery are clear. You are G4SDW AICMFP. ;-)
you a pint of weak beer!
From what I recall they announced the changes as:
recycling calls returned to Ofcom either through death of the holder
or no longer wanting a licence
phasing out issuing 2xxxx IL calls and using M8/M9 calls instead
allowing existing 2xxxx call holders to exchange with an M8/M9 call
Only being allowed to hold one personal licence. So no multiple fulls
for people like me and nobody holding their M3 when they get a 2E and
likewise when they get a full.
Mni tnx fer the info.
To a large degree the changes requires updates to Ofcom's licencing
software ISTR. So many of the changes will not be put into practice
until that software is running.
I would have thought that good old Excel would be adequate for the job.
Still, why use an old tried and tested wheel when you can invent a newer
one?
Let's hope it's not Fujitsu doing the work or we'll all find we've
been allocated GM4DHJ and nobody will talk to us!
:o))
Does that include time for the inevitable debugging?
I also seem to remember the new software was expected late Autumn.
The only thing Excel is good for is keeping middle managers out of your
hair whilst they fanny about with their shitty Excel scripts and think
they can actually program. Ofcom have probably got a perfectly viable
SQL database system and the changes will be to the web front end that
allows you to query items and update the DB. There may not be any
changes to the what we users see.