• bus bar thing

    From john larkin@21:1/5 to All on Thu Dec 26 08:21:50 2024
    Sometimes I can't find the right set of words to google what I'm
    looking for (or to find it on Amazon)

    I'm designing a relay module, with some number of independent SPST
    power relays, and I thought it would be convenient for the customers,
    if any, to be able to buss one side of some of the relays sometimes.
    But without soldering.

    If we had a row of holes on the board, one could bolt down strips of
    buss bar as needed. So I want to buy a flat metal strip with evenly
    spaced holes. A customer could, say, snip off a bit with 5 holes and
    bolt it down with 5 tiny screws to cluster 5 channels.

    Searching for buss bar gets thousands of silly hits.

    I recall companies that made this sort of thing, electronic pcb bus
    bars, standard and custom. Does anyone know of any?

    Back in the DIP ics and double-sided board days, we'd sometimes use soldered-down bus bars for power and ground distribution.Maybe some
    people still do.

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  • From Edward Rawde@21:1/5 to john larkin on Thu Dec 26 11:45:48 2024
    "john larkin" <JL@gct.com> wrote in message news:asvqmj9im34h9film5tg1a3esvgoth5sti@4ax.com...
    Sometimes I can't find the right set of words to google what I'm
    looking for (or to find it on Amazon)

    I'm designing a relay module, with some number of independent SPST
    power relays, and I thought it would be convenient for the customers,
    if any, to be able to buss one side of some of the relays sometimes.
    But without soldering.

    If we had a row of holes on the board, one could bolt down strips of
    buss bar as needed. So I want to buy a flat metal strip with evenly
    spaced holes. A customer could, say, snip off a bit with 5 holes and
    bolt it down with 5 tiny screws to cluster 5 channels.

    Searching for buss bar gets thousands of silly hits.

    I recall companies that made this sort of thing, electronic pcb bus
    bars, standard and custom. Does anyone know of any?

    Plenty turn up here:

    https://www.google.com/search?q=busbar&udm=2

    Including this one which may or may not have something suitable:

    https://www.nvent.com/en-ae/eriflex/products/copper-busbars


    Back in the DIP ics and double-sided board days, we'd sometimes use soldered-down bus bars for power and ground distribution.Maybe some
    people still do.



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  • From Martin Rid@21:1/5 to john larkin on Thu Dec 26 13:10:35 2024
    john larkin <JL@gct.com> Wrote in message:r
    On Thu, 26 Dec 2024 11:45:48 -0500, "Edward Rawde"<invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:>>"john larkin" <JL@gct.com> wrote in message news:asvqmj9im34h9film5tg1a3esvgoth5sti@4ax.com...>> Sometimes I can't find the right set of words to google what I'm>>
    looking for (or to find it on Amazon)>>>> I'm designing a relay module, with some number of independent SPST>> power relays, and I thought it would be convenient for the customers,>> if any, to be able to buss one side of some of the relays sometimes.>>
    But without soldering.>>>> If we had a row of holes on the board, one could bolt down strips of>> buss bar as needed. So I want to buy a flat metal strip with evenly>> spaced holes. A customer could, say, snip off a bit with 5 holes and>> bolt it down
    with 5 tiny screws to cluster 5 channels.>>>> Searching for buss bar gets thousands of silly hits.>>>> I recall companies that made this sort of thing, electronic pcb bus>> bars, standard and custom. Does anyone know of any?>>Plenty turn up here:>>
    https://www.google.com/search?q=busbar&udm=2>>Including this one which may or may not have something suitable:>>https://www.nvent.com/en-ae/eriflex/products/copper-busbars>>>>> Back in the DIP ics and double-sided board days, we'd sometimes use>>
    soldered-down bus bars for power and ground distribution.Maybe some>> people still do.>>>> >I could design a PCB that had various length bus bar jumper things, asbreakaways, so users could snap off whatever they need.2, 3, and 4 hole segments might work,
    in general. It's an interestinggeometry puzzle.

    Did you check keystone electric? Or what about the screwdowns
    that have the solder legs?

    Cheers
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  • From john larkin@21:1/5 to invalid@invalid.invalid on Thu Dec 26 09:56:38 2024
    On Thu, 26 Dec 2024 11:45:48 -0500, "Edward Rawde"
    <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:


    "john larkin" <JL@gct.com> wrote in message news:asvqmj9im34h9film5tg1a3esvgoth5sti@4ax.com...
    Sometimes I can't find the right set of words to google what I'm
    looking for (or to find it on Amazon)

    I'm designing a relay module, with some number of independent SPST
    power relays, and I thought it would be convenient for the customers,
    if any, to be able to buss one side of some of the relays sometimes.
    But without soldering.

    If we had a row of holes on the board, one could bolt down strips of
    buss bar as needed. So I want to buy a flat metal strip with evenly
    spaced holes. A customer could, say, snip off a bit with 5 holes and
    bolt it down with 5 tiny screws to cluster 5 channels.

    Searching for buss bar gets thousands of silly hits.

    I recall companies that made this sort of thing, electronic pcb bus
    bars, standard and custom. Does anyone know of any?

    Plenty turn up here:

    https://www.google.com/search?q=busbar&udm=2

    Including this one which may or may not have something suitable:

    https://www.nvent.com/en-ae/eriflex/products/copper-busbars


    Back in the DIP ics and double-sided board days, we'd sometimes use
    soldered-down bus bars for power and ground distribution.Maybe some
    people still do.




    I could design a PCB that had various length bus bar jumper things, as breakaways, so users could snap off whatever they need.

    2, 3, and 4 hole segments might work, in general. It's an interesting
    geometry puzzle.

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  • From Martin Rid@21:1/5 to john larkin on Thu Dec 26 13:15:06 2024
    john larkin <JL@gct.com> Wrote in message:r
    Sometimes I can't find the right set of words to google what I'mlooking for (or to find it on Amazon)I'm designing a relay module, with some number of independent SPSTpower relays, and I thought it would be convenient for the customers,if any, to be
    able to buss one side of some of the relays sometimes.But without soldering.If we had a row of holes on the board, one could bolt down strips ofbuss bar as needed. So I want to buy a flat metal strip with evenlyspaced holes. A customer could, say, snip
    off a bit with 5 holes andbolt it down with 5 tiny screws to cluster 5 channels.Searching for buss bar gets thousands of silly hits.I recall companies that made this sort of thing, electronic pcb busbars, standard and custom. Does anyone know of any?
    Back in the DIP ics and double-sided board days, we'd sometimes usesoldered-down bus bars for power and ground distribution.Maybe somepeople still do.

    Wakefieldthermal

    Cheers
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  • From piglet@21:1/5 to john larkin on Thu Dec 26 20:42:08 2024
    john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote:
    Sometimes I can't find the right set of words to google what I'm
    looking for (or to find it on Amazon)

    I'm designing a relay module, with some number of independent SPST
    power relays, and I thought it would be convenient for the customers,
    if any, to be able to buss one side of some of the relays sometimes.
    But without soldering.

    If we had a row of holes on the board, one could bolt down strips of
    buss bar as needed. So I want to buy a flat metal strip with evenly
    spaced holes. A customer could, say, snip off a bit with 5 holes and
    bolt it down with 5 tiny screws to cluster 5 channels.

    Searching for buss bar gets thousands of silly hits.

    I recall companies that made this sort of thing, electronic pcb bus
    bars, standard and custom. Does anyone know of any?

    Back in the DIP ics and double-sided board days, we'd sometimes use soldered-down bus bars for power and ground distribution.Maybe some
    people still do.




    Tapped strip?


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  • From Joe Gwinn@21:1/5 to john larkin on Thu Dec 26 16:58:38 2024
    On Thu, 26 Dec 2024 09:56:38 -0800, john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote:

    On Thu, 26 Dec 2024 11:45:48 -0500, "Edward Rawde"
    <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:


    "john larkin" <JL@gct.com> wrote in message news:asvqmj9im34h9film5tg1a3esvgoth5sti@4ax.com...
    Sometimes I can't find the right set of words to google what I'm
    looking for (or to find it on Amazon)

    I'm designing a relay module, with some number of independent SPST
    power relays, and I thought it would be convenient for the customers,
    if any, to be able to buss one side of some of the relays sometimes.
    But without soldering.

    If we had a row of holes on the board, one could bolt down strips of
    buss bar as needed. So I want to buy a flat metal strip with evenly
    spaced holes. A customer could, say, snip off a bit with 5 holes and
    bolt it down with 5 tiny screws to cluster 5 channels.

    Searching for buss bar gets thousands of silly hits.

    I recall companies that made this sort of thing, electronic pcb bus
    bars, standard and custom. Does anyone know of any?

    Plenty turn up here:

    https://www.google.com/search?q=busbar&udm=2

    Including this one which may or may not have something suitable:

    https://www.nvent.com/en-ae/eriflex/products/copper-busbars


    Back in the DIP ics and double-sided board days, we'd sometimes use
    soldered-down bus bars for power and ground distribution.Maybe some
    people still do.




    I could design a PCB that had various length bus bar jumper things, as >breakaways, so users could snap off whatever they need.

    2, 3, and 4 hole segments might work, in general. It's an interesting >geometry puzzle.


    Are you thinking of laminated busbars?

    .<https://amphenol-ipc.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Busbar-Deisgn-Guide.pdf>

    Joe Gwinn

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  • From Jasen Betts@21:1/5 to john larkin on Fri Dec 27 05:05:14 2024
    On 2024-12-26, john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote:
    Sometimes I can't find the right set of words to google what I'm
    looking for (or to find it on Amazon)

    I'm designing a relay module, with some number of independent SPST
    power relays, and I thought it would be convenient for the customers,
    if any, to be able to buss one side of some of the relays sometimes.
    But without soldering.

    Use one s with two it's a kiss. (may help search results)

    If we had a row of holes on the board, one could bolt down strips of
    buss bar as needed. So I want to buy a flat metal strip with evenly
    spaced holes. A customer could, say, snip off a bit with 5 holes and
    bolt it down with 5 tiny screws to cluster 5 channels.

    The bit that's left over when you've crimped all the terminals?

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  • From Lasse Langwadt@21:1/5 to john larkin on Sat Dec 28 01:43:31 2024
    On 12/26/24 17:21, john larkin wrote:
    Sometimes I can't find the right set of words to google what I'm
    looking for (or to find it on Amazon)

    I'm designing a relay module, with some number of independent SPST
    power relays, and I thought it would be convenient for the customers,
    if any, to be able to buss one side of some of the relays sometimes.
    But without soldering.

    If we had a row of holes on the board, one could bolt down strips of
    buss bar as needed. So I want to buy a flat metal strip with evenly
    spaced holes. A customer could, say, snip off a bit with 5 holes and
    bolt it down with 5 tiny screws to cluster 5 channels.

    Searching for buss bar gets thousands of silly hits.

    I recall companies that made this sort of thing, electronic pcb bus
    bars, standard and custom. Does anyone know of any?

    Back in the DIP ics and double-sided board days, we'd sometimes use soldered-down bus bars for power and ground distribution.Maybe some
    people still do.


    abuse something like this, with screws from the opposite side? https://www.digikey.dk/da/products/detail/schroff/34561384/4210056

    M2.5 screws and afaict the pitch is 200mil

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  • From Buzz McCool@21:1/5 to john larkin on Fri Jan 3 07:54:18 2025
    On 12/26/2024 8:21 AM, john larkin wrote:

    Searching for buss bar gets thousands of silly hits.

    Searching my memory, I remember Rogers advertising bus bars in EDN
    and/or Electronic Design.

    https://rogerscorp.com/advanced-electronics-solutions/rolinx-busbars

    Our mechanical engineers worked with us to design custom bus bars for
    our power distribution (100 A) as well.

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  • From john larkin@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jan 3 10:22:59 2025
    On Fri, 3 Jan 2025 07:54:18 -0800, Buzz McCool <buzz_mccool@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On 12/26/2024 8:21 AM, john larkin wrote:

    Searching for buss bar gets thousands of silly hits.

    Searching my memory, I remember Rogers advertising bus bars in EDN
    and/or Electronic Design.

    https://rogerscorp.com/advanced-electronics-solutions/rolinx-busbars

    Our mechanical engineers worked with us to design custom bus bars for
    our power distribution (100 A) as well.


    Our latest idea is to have a row of eight fuseholders on the board,
    each connecting a channel to one common buss. Users can snap in fuses
    as desired, and it eliminates some absurd current possibilities.

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  • From Klaus Kragelund@21:1/5 to john larkin on Sat Jan 4 00:41:44 2025
    On 26-12-2024 17:21, john larkin wrote:
    Sometimes I can't find the right set of words to google what I'm
    looking for (or to find it on Amazon)

    I'm designing a relay module, with some number of independent SPST
    power relays, and I thought it would be convenient for the customers,
    if any, to be able to buss one side of some of the relays sometimes.
    But without soldering.

    If we had a row of holes on the board, one could bolt down strips of
    buss bar as needed. So I want to buy a flat metal strip with evenly
    spaced holes. A customer could, say, snip off a bit with 5 holes and
    bolt it down with 5 tiny screws to cluster 5 channels.

    Searching for buss bar gets thousands of silly hits.

    I recall companies that made this sort of thing, electronic pcb bus
    bars, standard and custom. Does anyone know of any?

    Back in the DIP ics and double-sided board days, we'd sometimes use soldered-down bus bars for power and ground distribution.Maybe some
    people still do.


    You can also use seperated screw terminals:

    https://www.digikey.dk/en/products/detail/w-rth-elektronik/7461001/3911014?gclsrc=aw.ds&&utm_adgroup=&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=PMax%20Shopping_Product_Zombie%20SKUs&utm_term=&productid=3911014&utm_content=&utm_id=go_cmp-18731555248_
    adg-_ad-__dev-c_ext-_prd-3911014_sig-Cj0KCQiAst67BhCEARIsAKKdWOk2Cm4eEL08UGKhjRoRnT3DfFSWM56Uw42UfpSRPCvyrir9W5O6HPEaAh2eEALw_wcB&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQiAst67BhCEARIsAKKdWOk2Cm4eEL08UGKhjRoRnT3DfFSWM56Uw42UfpSRPCvyrir9W5O6HPEaAh2eEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

    https://www.tme.eu/dk/en/details/keys7769-3/solder-terminals-pcb-mount/keystone/7769-3/?brutto=1&currency=DKK&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=DANIA%20[PLA]%20CSS&gad_source=1&gclid=
    Cj0KCQiAst67BhCEARIsAKKdWOlZAt6gvKf0h5fTyWs2HFtzTUtxVEhvaSFcgGcpI955Qffc3t-KqqsaAumbEALw_wcB

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