• Revolution in chip manufacturing!!

    From Jan Panteltje@21:1/5 to All on Tue Dec 31 05:51:39 2024
    Engineering researchers develop deep-UV microLED display chips for maskless photolithography
    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/12/241230131942.htm
    Source:
    Hong Kong University of Science and Technology
    Summary:
    In a breakthrough set to revolutionize the semiconductor industry,
    engineers have developed the world's first-of-its-kind deep-ultraviolet (UVC) microLED display array for lithography machines.
    This enhanced efficiency UVC microLED has showcased the viability of a lowered cost maskless photolithography
    through the provision of adequate light output power density, enabling exposure of photoresist films in a shorter time.

    High-Power AlGaN Deep-Ultraviolet Micro-Light-Emitting Diode Displays for Maskless Photolithography
    Now everybody and their cat cam make nano nano chips?
    End of ASML?
    Go short on them?

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  • From Bill Sloman@21:1/5 to Jan Panteltje on Tue Dec 31 17:28:38 2024
    On 31/12/2024 4:51 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    Engineering researchers develop deep-UV microLED display chips for maskless photolithography
    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/12/241230131942.htm
    Source:
    Hong Kong University of Science and Technology
    Summary:
    In a breakthrough set to revolutionize the semiconductor industry,
    engineers have developed the world's first-of-its-kind deep-ultraviolet (UVC) microLED display array for lithography machines.
    This enhanced efficiency UVC microLED has showcased the viability of a lowered cost maskless photolithography
    through the provision of adequate light output power density, enabling exposure of photoresist films in a shorter time.

    High-Power AlGaN Deep-Ultraviolet Micro-Light-Emitting Diode Displays for Maskless Photolithography
    Now everybody and their cat cam make nano nano chips?
    End of ASML?
    Go short on them?

    ASML offers lithography with a resolution of a couple of nanometres.
    They use very deep ultra-violet irradiation - wavelength 13.5nm - to get
    there.

    https://www.asml.com/en/products/euv-lithography-systems

    The Nature Photonics paper your puff is based on specifies that their UV
    LEDs emit 270nm radiation, twenty times longer, so they aren't in the hunt.

    It looks like a useful development, but it isn't going to threaten
    ASML's market.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From john larkin@21:1/5 to All on Tue Dec 31 12:40:03 2024
    On Tue, 31 Dec 2024 05:51:39 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    Engineering researchers develop deep-UV microLED display chips for maskless photolithography
    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/12/241230131942.htm
    Source:
    Hong Kong University of Science and Technology
    Summary:
    In a breakthrough set to revolutionize the semiconductor industry,
    engineers have developed the world's first-of-its-kind deep-ultraviolet (UVC) microLED display array for lithography machines.
    This enhanced efficiency UVC microLED has showcased the viability of a lowered cost maskless photolithography
    through the provision of adequate light output power density, enabling exposure of photoresist films in a shorter time.

    High-Power AlGaN Deep-Ultraviolet Micro-Light-Emitting Diode Displays for Maskless Photolithography
    Now everybody and their cat cam make nano nano chips?
    End of ASML?
    Go short on them?



    There's another outfit that is serious about going after ASML.

    https://www.xlight.com/

    The idea is to make a rather large electron accelerator and use that
    to build an EUV free-electron laser.

    That's all I can say.

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  • From Jan Panteltje@21:1/5 to jl@glen--canyon.com on Tue Dec 31 21:30:53 2024
    On a sunny day (Tue, 31 Dec 2024 12:40:03 -0800) it happened john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> wrote in <u8l8njhccc5qutti94ml2bt1m7ogk59nev@4ax.com>:

    On Tue, 31 Dec 2024 05:51:39 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    Engineering researchers develop deep-UV microLED display chips for maskless photolithography
    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/12/241230131942.htm
    Source:
    Hong Kong University of Science and Technology
    Summary:
    In a breakthrough set to revolutionize the semiconductor industry,
    engineers have developed the world's first-of-its-kind deep-ultraviolet (UVC) microLED display array for lithography
    machines.
    This enhanced efficiency UVC microLED has showcased the viability of a lowered cost maskless photolithography
    through the provision of adequate light output power density, enabling exposure of photoresist films in a shorter time.

    High-Power AlGaN Deep-Ultraviolet Micro-Light-Emitting Diode Displays for Maskless Photolithography
    Now everybody and their cat cam make nano nano chips?
    End of ASML?
    Go short on them?



    There's another outfit that is serious about going after ASML.

    https://www.xlight.com/

    The idea is to make a rather large electron accelerator and use that
    to build an EUV free-electron laser.

    That's all I can say.

    I was thinking if you can make an EUV OLED display (say 1600x1000 pixels) you no longer need masks?
    All electronics... like TV :-)
    Would that work?

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  • From Phil Hobbs@21:1/5 to john larkin on Tue Dec 31 21:39:30 2024
    john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 31 Dec 2024 05:51:39 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    Engineering researchers develop deep-UV microLED display chips for maskless >> photolithography
    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/12/241230131942.htm
    Source:
    Hong Kong University of Science and Technology
    Summary:
    In a breakthrough set to revolutionize the semiconductor industry,
    engineers have developed the world's first-of-its-kind deep-ultraviolet
    (UVC) microLED display array for lithography machines.
    This enhanced efficiency UVC microLED has showcased the viability of a
    lowered cost maskless photolithography
    through the provision of adequate light output power density, enabling
    exposure of photoresist films in a shorter time.

    High-Power AlGaN Deep-Ultraviolet Micro-Light-Emitting Diode Displays
    for Maskless Photolithography
    Now everybody and their cat cam make nano nano chips?
    End of ASML?
    Go short on them?



    There's another outfit that is serious about going after ASML.

    https://www.xlight.com/

    The idea is to make a rather large electron accelerator and use that
    to build an EUV free-electron laser.

    That's all I can say.



    Resin-based 3D printing does amazingly well with bog standard 4k LCDs and
    UV LEDs, achieving 20 micron voxel size. Simon uses it for his
    automatically generated cradles for test jigs.

    I’m a fan.

    Chip litho has been better than that since the dawn of the planar process.
    You can easily do 5 microns with contact printing, even if you’re a bit cross-eyed.

    A lot of the advances in lithography technology are based on using the very high contrast of photo resist to multiply resolution.

    You expose using a dose that just exceeds the resist threshold to make a
    grid of narrow lines spaced by a bit more than half a wavelength. (Details
    vary depending on the numerical aperture and refractive index.)

    Then you develop the resist, forming the narrow lines. Repeat once for 2x resolution, or three times for 4x.

    Once you have this grating structure, you have to cut the lines in
    appropriate places to form the actual circuit outline. This is harder.

    Also, of course you have to lay out your circuit so that this highly
    restricted geometry can build it. Not too easy, but that’s how chips have been made for many years now.

    All of which is very fiddly.

    State of the art litho is already using multiple exposures of 13.5 nm
    light. That’s a photon energy of 92 eV, which dwarfs the band gap of any material whatsoever. (Diamond is the champ at 5.5 eV.)

    Thus there’s no way to make a LED with a wavelength that short.

    A super high density array of super small 200-nm LEDs could be pretty
    useful if it wasn’t too expensive, but you ain’t doing maskless litho at advanced nodes with that.

    There’s a _lot_ of money spent on litho R&D,
    So perhaps there’s a way to do it using an array of LEDs and multiple exposures, at least at nodes where 200 nm lithography still works.

    Not going to replace advanced light sources and wafer scanners anytime
    soon, and anyway the extreme-precision motion and positioning will still be needed.

    Might be great for making semi-custom chips based on arrays of gates or transistors.

    Cheers

    Phil Hobbs

    --
    Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal Consultant ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics

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  • From john larkin@21:1/5 to pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical. on Tue Dec 31 14:02:58 2024
    On Tue, 31 Dec 2024 21:39:30 -0000 (UTC), Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

    john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 31 Dec 2024 05:51:39 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    Engineering researchers develop deep-UV microLED display chips for maskless >>> photolithography
    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/12/241230131942.htm
    Source:
    Hong Kong University of Science and Technology
    Summary:
    In a breakthrough set to revolutionize the semiconductor industry,
    engineers have developed the world's first-of-its-kind deep-ultraviolet
    (UVC) microLED display array for lithography machines.
    This enhanced efficiency UVC microLED has showcased the viability of a
    lowered cost maskless photolithography
    through the provision of adequate light output power density, enabling
    exposure of photoresist films in a shorter time.

    High-Power AlGaN Deep-Ultraviolet Micro-Light-Emitting Diode Displays
    for Maskless Photolithography
    Now everybody and their cat cam make nano nano chips?
    End of ASML?
    Go short on them?



    There's another outfit that is serious about going after ASML.

    https://www.xlight.com/

    The idea is to make a rather large electron accelerator and use that
    to build an EUV free-electron laser.

    That's all I can say.



    Resin-based 3D printing does amazingly well with bog standard 4k LCDs and
    UV LEDs, achieving 20 micron voxel size. Simon uses it for his
    automatically generated cradles for test jigs.

    IÆm a fan.

    Chip litho has been better than that since the dawn of the planar process. >You can easily do 5 microns with contact printing, even if youÆre a bit >cross-eyed.

    A lot of the advances in lithography technology are based on using the very >high contrast of photo resist to multiply resolution.

    You expose using a dose that just exceeds the resist threshold to make a
    grid of narrow lines spaced by a bit more than half a wavelength. (Details >vary depending on the numerical aperture and refractive index.)

    Then you develop the resist, forming the narrow lines. Repeat once for 2x >resolution, or three times for 4x.

    Once you have this grating structure, you have to cut the lines in >appropriate places to form the actual circuit outline. This is harder.

    Also, of course you have to lay out your circuit so that this highly >restricted geometry can build it. Not too easy, but thatÆs how chips have >been made for many years now.

    All of which is very fiddly.

    State of the art litho is already using multiple exposures of 13.5 nm
    light. ThatÆs a photon energy of 92 eV, which dwarfs the band gap of any >material whatsoever. (Diamond is the champ at 5.5 eV.)

    Thus thereÆs no way to make a LED with a wavelength that short.

    A super high density array of super small 200-nm LEDs could be pretty
    useful if it wasnÆt too expensive, but you ainÆt doing maskless litho at >advanced nodes with that.

    ThereÆs a _lot_ of money spent on litho R&D,
    So perhaps thereÆs a way to do it using an array of LEDs and multiple >exposures, at least at nodes where 200 nm lithography still works.

    Not going to replace advanced light sources and wafer scanners anytime
    soon, and anyway the extreme-precision motion and positioning will still be >needed.

    Might be great for making semi-custom chips based on arrays of gates or >transistors.

    Cheers

    Phil Hobbs

    I think that some of the first ICs were silk screened.

    It should be possible to inkjet some power mosfets or something.

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  • From Joe Gwinn@21:1/5 to All on Tue Dec 31 18:36:08 2024
    On Tue, 31 Dec 2024 12:40:03 -0800, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>
    wrote:

    On Tue, 31 Dec 2024 05:51:39 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    Engineering researchers develop deep-UV microLED display chips for maskless photolithography
    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/12/241230131942.htm
    Source:
    Hong Kong University of Science and Technology
    Summary:
    In a breakthrough set to revolutionize the semiconductor industry,
    engineers have developed the world's first-of-its-kind deep-ultraviolet (UVC) microLED display array for lithography machines.
    This enhanced efficiency UVC microLED has showcased the viability of a lowered cost maskless photolithography
    through the provision of adequate light output power density, enabling exposure of photoresist films in a shorter time.

    High-Power AlGaN Deep-Ultraviolet Micro-Light-Emitting Diode Displays for Maskless Photolithography
    Now everybody and their cat cam make nano nano chips?
    End of ASML?
    Go short on them?



    There's another outfit that is serious about going after ASML.

    https://www.xlight.com/

    The idea is to make a rather large electron accelerator and use that
    to build an EUV free-electron laser.

    That's all I can say.

    This sounds very interesting. FELs are well understood, but were not
    designed or used for IC production. Research only.

    ASML did try all manner of deep UV light source approaches, but FELs
    didn't make the cut back then; don't know why, but accelerator
    technology has advanced since then.

    Joe Gwinn

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