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On 1/3/2025 11:25 PM, Bill Sloman wrote:
On 4/01/2025 5:52 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Thu, 02 Jan 2025 19:02:23 -0800, john larkin wrote:
On Thu, 2 Jan 2025 19:24:31 +0800, Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid>wereat
wrote:
On 02-Jan-25 2:00 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
Is what 'they' said at the outset. Now it emerges he had an ISIS
flag in his truck at the time! No wonder fewer and fewer people are >>>>>> trusting the legacy media. This is why it's so important to have
citizen journalists mobilised and fact-checking what's really going >>>>>> on when these incidents occur. I don't suppose the rather
embarrassing presence of the flag would have been revealed
otherwise.
For years the conspiracy theorists were telling us that governments
using the threat of terrorism to take away our freedoms.
Now the conspiracy theory is that governments are hiding the
existence of terrorism from us.
So which is it?
Sylvia.
There is no single Ministey Of Conspiracy Theory. There's diversity
in the lunatic fringe world.
Obama's birth certificate springs to mind here. There are equal
numbers of people calling it out as a fake as there are calling these
same people conspiracy nuts and lunatics.
It's a lunatic fringe.
I'm almost nostalgic for the days when birther-ism was the margin of the lunatic fringe, the lunatic fringe has way more nonsensical nonsense to
focus on these days..
On 1/2/2025 8:53 AM, Bill Sloman wrote:
On 2/01/2025 10:24 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:Fox News et al. generates a whole variety of fatuous nonsense and they
On 02-Jan-25 2:00 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
Is what 'they' said at the outset. Now it emerges he had an ISIS flag
inthat his truck at the time! No wonder fewer and fewer people are
trusting the legacy media. This is why it's so important to have
citizen journalists mobilised and fact-checking what's really going
on when these incidents occur. I don't suppose the rather
embarrassing presence of the flag would have been revealed otherwise.
For years the conspiracy theorists were telling us that governments
were using the threat of terrorism to take away our freedoms.
Now the conspiracy theory is that governments are hiding the existence
of terrorism from us.
So which is it?
No point in asking Cursitor Doom - he just looks for fatuous nonsense
and posts it here whenever he finds it.
see what gets clicks and eyeballs and what doesn't, throw shit at the
wall and see what sticks.
Then they feed the most highly-rated nonsense to Trump/Musk/Vance et al
who bring it up in their next speech or X post and the hoi polloi are
like "Wow, they know what's on our minds. they really understand us!"
On Sat, 4 Jan 2025 02:58:08 -0500, bitrex wrote:
On 1/2/2025 8:53 AM, Bill Sloman wrote:
On 2/01/2025 10:24 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:Fox News et al. generates a whole variety of fatuous nonsense and they
On 02-Jan-25 2:00 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
Is what 'they' said at the outset. Now it emerges he had an ISIS flag >>>>> inthat his truck at the time! No wonder fewer and fewer people areFor years the conspiracy theorists were telling us that governments
trusting the legacy media. This is why it's so important to have
citizen journalists mobilised and fact-checking what's really going
on when these incidents occur. I don't suppose the rather
embarrassing presence of the flag would have been revealed otherwise. >>>>
were using the threat of terrorism to take away our freedoms.
Now the conspiracy theory is that governments are hiding the existence >>>> of terrorism from us.
So which is it?
No point in asking Cursitor Doom - he just looks for fatuous nonsense
and posts it here whenever he finds it.
see what gets clicks and eyeballs and what doesn't, throw shit at the
wall and see what sticks.
Then they feed the most highly-rated nonsense to Trump/Musk/Vance et al
who bring it up in their next speech or X post and the hoi polloi are
like "Wow, they know what's on our minds. they really understand us!"
Indeed. Right-wing parties try to focus on issues that are of concern to
the voters. Left-wing parties focus on deciding which issues *should* be
of concern to voters.
On Sat, 4 Jan 2025 02:28:08 -0500, bitrex wrote:
On 1/3/2025 11:25 PM, Bill Sloman wrote:
On 4/01/2025 5:52 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Thu, 02 Jan 2025 19:02:23 -0800, john larkin wrote:
On Thu, 2 Jan 2025 19:24:31 +0800, Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> >>>>> wrote:wereat
On 02-Jan-25 2:00 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
Is what 'they' said at the outset. Now it emerges he had an ISIS >>>>>>> flag in his truck at the time! No wonder fewer and fewer people are >>>>>>> trusting the legacy media. This is why it's so important to have >>>>>>> citizen journalists mobilised and fact-checking what's really going >>>>>>> on when these incidents occur. I don't suppose the rather
embarrassing presence of the flag would have been revealed
otherwise.
For years the conspiracy theorists were telling us that governments
using the threat of terrorism to take away our freedoms.
Now the conspiracy theory is that governments are hiding the
existence of terrorism from us.
So which is it?
Sylvia.
There is no single Ministey Of Conspiracy Theory. There's diversity
in the lunatic fringe world.
Obama's birth certificate springs to mind here. There are equal
numbers of people calling it out as a fake as there are calling these
same people conspiracy nuts and lunatics.
It's a lunatic fringe.
I'm almost nostalgic for the days when birther-ism was the margin of the
lunatic fringe, the lunatic fringe has way more nonsensical nonsense to
focus on these days..
Yes, like cramming in as many terrorist mass-murderers as possible before
Jan 20th.
Fox News et al. generates a whole variety of fatuous nonsense and they
see what gets clicks and eyeballs and what doesn't, throw shit at the
wall and see what sticks.
Then they feed the most highly-rated nonsense to Trump/Musk/Vance et al
who bring it up in their next speech or X post and the hoi polloi are
like "Wow, they know what's on our minds. they really understand us!"
You sneer at the people who keep you alive. Maybe they shouldn't
bother.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F10VIJjqJIs
My biskits are better, but that video is enough to rate him eight
years of baking biskits in the White House kitchen.
On 1/2/2025 8:53 AM, Bill Sloman wrote:
On 2/01/2025 10:24 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
On 02-Jan-25 2:00 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
Is what 'they' said at the outset. Now it emerges he had an ISIS flag inthat
his truck at the time! No wonder fewer and fewer people are trusting the >>>> legacy media. This is why it's so important to have citizen journalists >>>> mobilised and fact-checking what's really going on when these incidents >>>> occur. I don't suppose the rather embarrassing presence of the flag
would
have been revealed otherwise.
For years the conspiracy theorists were telling us that governments
were using the threat of terrorism to take away our freedoms.
Now the conspiracy theory is that governments are hiding the existence
of terrorism from us.
So which is it?
No point in asking Cursitor Doom - he just looks for fatuous nonsense
and posts it here whenever he finds it.
Fox News et al. generates a whole variety of fatuous nonsense and they
see what gets clicks and eyeballs and what doesn't, throw shit at the
wall and see what sticks.
Then they feed the most highly-rated nonsense to Trump/Musk/Vance et al
who bring it up in their next speech or X post and the hoi polloi are
like "Wow, they know what's on our minds. they really understand us!"
Fox News et al. generates a whole variety of fatuous nonsense and they
see what gets clicks and eyeballs and what doesn't, throw shit at the
wall and see what sticks.
Then they feed the most highly-rated nonsense to Trump/Musk/Vance et al
who bring it up in their next speech or X post and the hoi polloi are
like "Wow, they know what's on our minds. they really understand us!"
You sneer at the people who keep you alive. Maybe they shouldn't
bother.
On 1/4/2025 11:09 AM, john larkin wrote:
Fox News et al. generates a whole variety of fatuous nonsense and they
see what gets clicks and eyeballs and what doesn't, throw shit at the
wall and see what sticks.
Then they feed the most highly-rated nonsense to Trump/Musk/Vance et al
who bring it up in their next speech or X post and the hoi polloi are
like "Wow, they know what's on our minds. they really understand us!"
You sneer at the people who keep you alive. Maybe they shouldn't
bother.
Sure thing. Been waiting on you all to "go Galt" like you've been
waiting on San Fran to be flooded by global warming, looking at my
calendar like "any day now."
Speaking of which I figure you live in SF vs. Tulsa for a reason.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F10VIJjqJIs
My biskits are better, but that video is enough to rate him eight
years of baking biskits in the White House kitchen.
On 1/4/2025 11:09 AM, john larkin wrote:
Fox News et al. generates a whole variety of fatuous nonsense and they
see what gets clicks and eyeballs and what doesn't, throw shit at the
wall and see what sticks.
Then they feed the most highly-rated nonsense to Trump/Musk/Vance et al
who bring it up in their next speech or X post and the hoi polloi are
like "Wow, they know what's on our minds. they really understand us!"
You sneer at the people who keep you alive. Maybe they shouldn't
bother.
PS: I can do my own tech support, plumbing, and car repair, and the >overwhelming majority of Americans aren't farmers. And robots and
migrant labor don't vote.
On Sat, 4 Jan 2025 11:14:32 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
On 1/4/2025 11:09 AM, john larkin wrote:
Fox News et al. generates a whole variety of fatuous nonsense and they >>>> see what gets clicks and eyeballs and what doesn't, throw shit at the
wall and see what sticks.
Then they feed the most highly-rated nonsense to Trump/Musk/Vance et al >>>> who bring it up in their next speech or X post and the hoi polloi are
like "Wow, they know what's on our minds. they really understand us!"
You sneer at the people who keep you alive. Maybe they shouldn't
bother.
Sure thing. Been waiting on you all to "go Galt" like you've been
waiting on San Fran to be flooded by global warming, looking at my
calendar like "any day now."
My kitchen floor is 365 feet above sea level. The ocean here is rising
maybe 2 mm/year. We'll be wet in about 50,000 years, ignoring the next
ice age.
Speaking of which I figure you live in SF vs. Tulsa for a reason.
I grew up in New Orleans and one day decided to reboot my life. I
studied the USA for six months, traveled and explored and researched
pollen distributions and ski areas. I decided to move to Portland or
SF and an incident tipped the scales.
Can't complain. SF has good food, beautiful terrain, gay guys and
great women who like engineers.
But I've never been to Tulsa. How's that? Have you been to Tulsa, or
is it just a target for sneers?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F10VIJjqJIs
My biskits are better, but that video is enough to rate him eight
years of baking biskits in the White House kitchen.
On 1/4/2025 11:09 AM, john larkin wrote:
Fox News et al. generates a whole variety of fatuous nonsense and they
see what gets clicks and eyeballs and what doesn't, throw shit at the
wall and see what sticks.
Then they feed the most highly-rated nonsense to Trump/Musk/Vance et
al who bring it up in their next speech or X post and the hoi polloi
are like "Wow, they know what's on our minds. they really understand
us!"
You sneer at the people who keep you alive. Maybe they shouldn't
bother.
PS: I can do my own tech support, plumbing, and car repair, and the overwhelming majority of Americans aren't farmers. And robots and
migrant labor don't vote.
On Sat, 4 Jan 2025 11:30:07 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
On 1/4/2025 11:09 AM, john larkin wrote:
Fox News et al. generates a whole variety of fatuous nonsense and they >>>> see what gets clicks and eyeballs and what doesn't, throw shit at the
wall and see what sticks.
Then they feed the most highly-rated nonsense to Trump/Musk/Vance et al >>>> who bring it up in their next speech or X post and the hoi polloi are
like "Wow, they know what's on our minds. they really understand us!"
You sneer at the people who keep you alive. Maybe they shouldn't
bother.
PS: I can do my own tech support, plumbing, and car repair, and the
overwhelming majority of Americans aren't farmers. And robots and
migrant labor don't vote.
Do you generate your own electricity, pump your own water, kill your
own chickens, do your own surgery and nursing, chop your own wood to
heat your house?
Keep bees for wax and honey? We did that.
On 1/4/2025 12:20 PM, john larkin wrote:
On Sat, 4 Jan 2025 11:30:07 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
On 1/4/2025 11:09 AM, john larkin wrote:
Fox News et al. generates a whole variety of fatuous nonsense and they >>>>> see what gets clicks and eyeballs and what doesn't, throw shit at the >>>>> wall and see what sticks.
Then they feed the most highly-rated nonsense to Trump/Musk/Vance et al >>>>> who bring it up in their next speech or X post and the hoi polloi are >>>>> like "Wow, they know what's on our minds. they really understand us!" >>>>
You sneer at the people who keep you alive. Maybe they shouldn't
bother.
PS: I can do my own tech support, plumbing, and car repair, and the
overwhelming majority of Americans aren't farmers. And robots and
migrant labor don't vote.
Do you generate your own electricity, pump your own water, kill your
own chickens, do your own surgery and nursing, chop your own wood to
heat your house?
Keep bees for wax and honey? We did that.
Are we operating under the premise that there are only conservatives in
the service industry sector, and the trades?
I don't have much further to add to this (somewhat confusing) scenario
if that's the case because I reject the premise as being silly. There
are no leftists in medicine or nursing, now?
I didn't start studying electronics seriously until my late 20s, and
didn't make any money at it for years after that. I've had lots of jobs
over the years, washing dishes, delivering papers, stocking shelves,
tech support, sales, senior care-giving..
Not sure what grudge you think I have against the "working class", I
_am_ the working class!
On Sat, 4 Jan 2025 14:33:10 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
On 1/4/2025 12:20 PM, john larkin wrote:
On Sat, 4 Jan 2025 11:30:07 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
On 1/4/2025 11:09 AM, john larkin wrote:
Fox News et al. generates a whole variety of fatuous nonsense and they >>>>>> see what gets clicks and eyeballs and what doesn't, throw shit at the >>>>>> wall and see what sticks.
Then they feed the most highly-rated nonsense to Trump/Musk/Vance et al >>>>>> who bring it up in their next speech or X post and the hoi polloi are >>>>>> like "Wow, they know what's on our minds. they really understand us!" >>>>>
You sneer at the people who keep you alive. Maybe they shouldn't
bother.
PS: I can do my own tech support, plumbing, and car repair, and the
overwhelming majority of Americans aren't farmers. And robots and
migrant labor don't vote.
Do you generate your own electricity, pump your own water, kill your
own chickens, do your own surgery and nursing, chop your own wood to
heat your house?
Keep bees for wax and honey? We did that.
Are we operating under the premise that there are only conservatives in
the service industry sector, and the trades?
I don't have much further to add to this (somewhat confusing) scenario
if that's the case because I reject the premise as being silly. There
are no leftists in medicine or nursing, now?
I didn't start studying electronics seriously until my late 20s, and
didn't make any money at it for years after that. I've had lots of jobs
over the years, washing dishes, delivering papers, stocking shelves,
tech support, sales, senior care-giving..
Not sure what grudge you think I have against the "working class", I
_am_ the working class!
But are you a hoi polloi ?
On Sat, 4 Jan 2025 14:33:10 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
On 1/4/2025 12:20 PM, john larkin wrote:
On Sat, 4 Jan 2025 11:30:07 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
On 1/4/2025 11:09 AM, john larkin wrote:
Fox News et al. generates a whole variety of fatuous nonsense and
they see what gets clicks and eyeballs and what doesn't, throw shit >>>>>> at the wall and see what sticks.
Then they feed the most highly-rated nonsense to Trump/Musk/Vance
et al who bring it up in their next speech or X post and the hoi
polloi are like "Wow, they know what's on our minds. they really
understand us!"
You sneer at the people who keep you alive. Maybe they shouldn't
bother.
PS: I can do my own tech support, plumbing, and car repair, and the
overwhelming majority of Americans aren't farmers. And robots and
migrant labor don't vote.
Do you generate your own electricity, pump your own water, kill your
own chickens, do your own surgery and nursing, chop your own wood to
heat your house?
Keep bees for wax and honey? We did that.
Are we operating under the premise that there are only conservatives in
the service industry sector, and the trades?
I don't have much further to add to this (somewhat confusing) scenario
if that's the case because I reject the premise as being silly. There
are no leftists in medicine or nursing, now?
I didn't start studying electronics seriously until my late 20s, and
didn't make any money at it for years after that. I've had lots of jobs >>over the years, washing dishes, delivering papers, stocking shelves,
tech support, sales, senior care-giving..
Not sure what grudge you think I have against the "working class", I
_am_ the working class!
But are you a hoi polloi ?
On Sat, 04 Jan 2025 14:04:39 -0800, john larkin wrote:
On Sat, 4 Jan 2025 14:33:10 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
On 1/4/2025 12:20 PM, john larkin wrote:
On Sat, 4 Jan 2025 11:30:07 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
On 1/4/2025 11:09 AM, john larkin wrote:
Fox News et al. generates a whole variety of fatuous nonsense and >>>>>>> they see what gets clicks and eyeballs and what doesn't, throw shit >>>>>>> at the wall and see what sticks.
Then they feed the most highly-rated nonsense to Trump/Musk/Vance >>>>>>> et al who bring it up in their next speech or X post and the hoi >>>>>>> polloi are like "Wow, they know what's on our minds. they really >>>>>>> understand us!"
You sneer at the people who keep you alive. Maybe they shouldn't
bother.
PS: I can do my own tech support, plumbing, and car repair, and the
overwhelming majority of Americans aren't farmers. And robots and
migrant labor don't vote.
Do you generate your own electricity, pump your own water, kill your
own chickens, do your own surgery and nursing, chop your own wood to
heat your house?
Keep bees for wax and honey? We did that.
Are we operating under the premise that there are only conservatives in
the service industry sector, and the trades?
I don't have much further to add to this (somewhat confusing) scenario
if that's the case because I reject the premise as being silly. There
are no leftists in medicine or nursing, now?
I didn't start studying electronics seriously until my late 20s, and
didn't make any money at it for years after that. I've had lots of jobs
over the years, washing dishes, delivering papers, stocking shelves,
tech support, sales, senior care-giving..
Not sure what grudge you think I have against the "working class", I
_am_ the working class!
But are you a hoi polloi ?
No Leftists are among the 'hoi polloi' - they're a class apart: better
than everyone else and therefore entitled to rule the world. Apparently.
On Sat, 04 Jan 2025 14:04:39 -0800, john larkin wrote:
On Sat, 4 Jan 2025 14:33:10 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
On 1/4/2025 12:20 PM, john larkin wrote:
On Sat, 4 Jan 2025 11:30:07 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
On 1/4/2025 11:09 AM, john larkin wrote:
Fox News et al. generates a whole variety of fatuous nonsense and >>>>>>> they see what gets clicks and eyeballs and what doesn't, throw shit >>>>>>> at the wall and see what sticks.
Then they feed the most highly-rated nonsense to Trump/Musk/Vance >>>>>>> et al who bring it up in their next speech or X post and the hoi >>>>>>> polloi are like "Wow, they know what's on our minds. they really >>>>>>> understand us!"
You sneer at the people who keep you alive. Maybe they shouldn't
bother.
PS: I can do my own tech support, plumbing, and car repair, and the
overwhelming majority of Americans aren't farmers. And robots and
migrant labor don't vote.
Do you generate your own electricity, pump your own water, kill your
own chickens, do your own surgery and nursing, chop your own wood to
heat your house?
Keep bees for wax and honey? We did that.
Are we operating under the premise that there are only conservatives in
the service industry sector, and the trades?
I don't have much further to add to this (somewhat confusing) scenario
if that's the case because I reject the premise as being silly. There
are no leftists in medicine or nursing, now?
I didn't start studying electronics seriously until my late 20s, and
didn't make any money at it for years after that. I've had lots of jobs
over the years, washing dishes, delivering papers, stocking shelves,
tech support, sales, senior care-giving..
Not sure what grudge you think I have against the "working class", I
_am_ the working class!
But are you a hoi polloi ?
No Leftists are among the 'hoi polloi' - they're a class apart: better
than everyone else and therefore entitled to rule the world. Apparently.
On Sat, 4 Jan 2025 02:58:08 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
On 1/2/2025 8:53 AM, Bill Sloman wrote:
On 2/01/2025 10:24 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
On 02-Jan-25 2:00 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
Is what 'they' said at the outset. Now it emerges he had an ISIS flag inthat
his truck at the time! No wonder fewer and fewer people are trusting the >>>>> legacy media. This is why it's so important to have citizen journalists >>>>> mobilised and fact-checking what's really going on when these incidents >>>>> occur. I don't suppose the rather embarrassing presence of the flag
would
have been revealed otherwise.
For years the conspiracy theorists were telling us that governments
were using the threat of terrorism to take away our freedoms.
Now the conspiracy theory is that governments are hiding the existence >>>> of terrorism from us.
So which is it?
No point in asking Cursitor Doom - he just looks for fatuous nonsense
and posts it here whenever he finds it.
Fox News et al. generates a whole variety of fatuous nonsense and they
see what gets clicks and eyeballs and what doesn't, throw shit at the
wall and see what sticks.
Then they feed the most highly-rated nonsense to Trump/Musk/Vance et al
who bring it up in their next speech or X post and the hoi polloi are
like "Wow, they know what's on our minds. they really understand us!"
You sneer at the people who keep you alive. Maybe they shouldn't
bother.
My biskits are better, but that video is enough to rate him eight
years of baking biskits in the White House kitchen.
On Sat, 4 Jan 2025 11:14:32 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
On 1/4/2025 11:09 AM, john larkin wrote:
Fox News et al. generates a whole variety of fatuous nonsense and they >>>> see what gets clicks and eyeballs and what doesn't, throw shit at the
wall and see what sticks.
Then they feed the most highly-rated nonsense to Trump/Musk/Vance et al >>>> who bring it up in their next speech or X post and the hoi polloi are
like "Wow, they know what's on our minds. they really understand us!"
You sneer at the people who keep you alive. Maybe they shouldn't
bother.
Sure thing. Been waiting on you all to "go Galt" like you've been
waiting on San Fran to be flooded by global warming, looking at my
calendar like "any day now."
My kitchen floor is 365 feet above sea level. The ocean here is rising
maybe 2 mm/year. We'll be wet in about 50,000 years, ignoring the next
ice age.
Speaking of which I figure you live in SF vs. Tulsa for a reason.
I grew up in New Orleans and one day decided to reboot my life. I
studied the USA for six months, traveled and explored and researched
pollen distributions and ski areas. I decided to move to Portland or
SF and an incident tipped the scales.
Can't complain. SF has good food, beautiful terrain, gay guys and
great women who like engineers.
But I've never been to Tulsa. How's that? Have you been to Tulsa, or
is it just a target for sneers?
On Sat, 04 Jan 2025 14:04:39 -0800, john larkin wrote:
On Sat, 4 Jan 2025 14:33:10 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
On 1/4/2025 12:20 PM, john larkin wrote:
On Sat, 4 Jan 2025 11:30:07 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
On 1/4/2025 11:09 AM, john larkin wrote:
Fox News et al. generates a whole variety of fatuous nonsense and >>>>>>> they see what gets clicks and eyeballs and what doesn't, throw shit >>>>>>> at the wall and see what sticks.
Then they feed the most highly-rated nonsense to Trump/Musk/Vance >>>>>>> et al who bring it up in their next speech or X post and the hoi >>>>>>> polloi are like "Wow, they know what's on our minds. they really >>>>>>> understand us!"
You sneer at the people who keep you alive. Maybe they shouldn't
bother.
PS: I can do my own tech support, plumbing, and car repair, and the
overwhelming majority of Americans aren't farmers. And robots and
migrant labor don't vote.
Do you generate your own electricity, pump your own water, kill your
own chickens, do your own surgery and nursing, chop your own wood to
heat your house?
Keep bees for wax and honey? We did that.
Are we operating under the premise that there are only conservatives in
the service industry sector, and the trades?
I don't have much further to add to this (somewhat confusing) scenario
if that's the case because I reject the premise as being silly. There
are no leftists in medicine or nursing, now?
I didn't start studying electronics seriously until my late 20s, and
didn't make any money at it for years after that. I've had lots of jobs
over the years, washing dishes, delivering papers, stocking shelves,
tech support, sales, senior care-giving..
Not sure what grudge you think I have against the "working class", I
_am_ the working class!
But are you a hoi polloi ?
No Leftists are among the 'hoi polloi' - they're a class apart: better
than everyone else and therefore entitled to rule the world. Apparently.
Deplorable is is deplorable does, man. What am I supposed to tell people
who think violent crime "is way up" when it's been going down for 50
years and that children are regularly getting sex changes, or whatever nonsense some significant fraction of citizens choose to believe today.
On 1/4/2025 5:04 PM, john larkin wrote:
On Sat, 4 Jan 2025 14:33:10 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
On 1/4/2025 12:20 PM, john larkin wrote:
On Sat, 4 Jan 2025 11:30:07 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
On 1/4/2025 11:09 AM, john larkin wrote:
Fox News et al. generates a whole variety of fatuous nonsense and they >>>>>>> see what gets clicks and eyeballs and what doesn't, throw shit at the >>>>>>> wall and see what sticks.
Then they feed the most highly-rated nonsense to Trump/Musk/Vance et al >>>>>>> who bring it up in their next speech or X post and the hoi polloi are >>>>>>> like "Wow, they know what's on our minds. they really understand us!" >>>>>>
You sneer at the people who keep you alive. Maybe they shouldn't
bother.
PS: I can do my own tech support, plumbing, and car repair, and the
overwhelming majority of Americans aren't farmers. And robots and
migrant labor don't vote.
Do you generate your own electricity, pump your own water, kill your
own chickens, do your own surgery and nursing, chop your own wood to
heat your house?
Keep bees for wax and honey? We did that.
Are we operating under the premise that there are only conservatives in
the service industry sector, and the trades?
I don't have much further to add to this (somewhat confusing) scenario
if that's the case because I reject the premise as being silly. There
are no leftists in medicine or nursing, now?
I didn't start studying electronics seriously until my late 20s, and
didn't make any money at it for years after that. I've had lots of jobs
over the years, washing dishes, delivering papers, stocking shelves,
tech support, sales, senior care-giving..
Not sure what grudge you think I have against the "working class", I
_am_ the working class!
But are you a hoi polloi ?
Deplorable is is deplorable does, man. What am I supposed to tell people
who think violent crime "is way up" when it's been going down for 50
years and that children are regularly getting sex changes, or whatever >nonsense some significant fraction of citizens choose to believe today. >"Yeah, you're right?"
Plenty of very well-to-do people seem to believe the same nonsense, so
it's not really a class-thing.
Deplorable is is deplorable does, man. What am I supposed to tell people
who think violent crime "is way up" when it's been going down for 50
years and that children are regularly getting sex changes, or whatever
nonsense some significant fraction of citizens choose to believe today.
"Yeah, you're right?"
Plenty of very well-to-do people seem to believe the same nonsense, so
it's not really a class-thing.
You invent people as targets for your need for contempt. You would
have been an ardent Nazi in the 1930's Germany. Tribal.
On 1/5/2025 11:01 AM, john larkin wrote:
Deplorable is is deplorable does, man. What am I supposed to tell people >>> who think violent crime "is way up" when it's been going down for 50
years and that children are regularly getting sex changes, or whatever
nonsense some significant fraction of citizens choose to believe today.
"Yeah, you're right?"
Plenty of very well-to-do people seem to believe the same nonsense, so
it's not really a class-thing.
You invent people as targets for your need for contempt. You would
have been an ardent Nazi in the 1930's Germany. Tribal.
'Fraid people who believe nonsense of the type I mentioned are not at
all "invented", if you don't personally know any or have never met any
maybe it's cuz you live in one of the most leftist places on Earth? ???
On Sat, 4 Jan 2025 17:45:19 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
On 1/4/2025 5:04 PM, john larkin wrote:
On Sat, 4 Jan 2025 14:33:10 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
On 1/4/2025 12:20 PM, john larkin wrote:
On Sat, 4 Jan 2025 11:30:07 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
On 1/4/2025 11:09 AM, john larkin wrote:
Fox News et al. generates a whole variety of fatuous nonsense and they >>>>>>>> see what gets clicks and eyeballs and what doesn't, throw shit at the >>>>>>>> wall and see what sticks.
Then they feed the most highly-rated nonsense to Trump/Musk/Vance et al
who bring it up in their next speech or X post and the hoi polloi are >>>>>>>> like "Wow, they know what's on our minds. they really understand us!" >>>>>>>
You sneer at the people who keep you alive. Maybe they shouldn't >>>>>>> bother.
PS: I can do my own tech support, plumbing, and car repair, and the >>>>>> overwhelming majority of Americans aren't farmers. And robots and
migrant labor don't vote.
Do you generate your own electricity, pump your own water, kill your >>>>> own chickens, do your own surgery and nursing, chop your own wood to >>>>> heat your house?
Keep bees for wax and honey? We did that.
Are we operating under the premise that there are only conservatives in >>>> the service industry sector, and the trades?
I don't have much further to add to this (somewhat confusing) scenario >>>> if that's the case because I reject the premise as being silly. There
are no leftists in medicine or nursing, now?
I didn't start studying electronics seriously until my late 20s, and
didn't make any money at it for years after that. I've had lots of jobs >>>> over the years, washing dishes, delivering papers, stocking shelves,
tech support, sales, senior care-giving..
Not sure what grudge you think I have against the "working class", I
_am_ the working class!
But are you a hoi polloi ?
Deplorable is is deplorable does, man. What am I supposed to tell people
who think violent crime "is way up" when it's been going down for 50
years and that children are regularly getting sex changes, or whatever
nonsense some significant fraction of citizens choose to believe today.
"Yeah, you're right?"
Plenty of very well-to-do people seem to believe the same nonsense, so
it's not really a class-thing.
You invent people as targets for your need for contempt. You would
have been an ardent Nazi in the 1930's Germany. Tribal.
On Sun, 5 Jan 2025 11:09:12 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
On 1/5/2025 11:01 AM, john larkin wrote:
Deplorable is is deplorable does, man. What am I supposed to tell people >>>> who think violent crime "is way up" when it's been going down for 50
years and that children are regularly getting sex changes, or whatever >>>> nonsense some significant fraction of citizens choose to believe today. >>>> "Yeah, you're right?"
Plenty of very well-to-do people seem to believe the same nonsense, so >>>> it's not really a class-thing.
You invent people as targets for your need for contempt. You would
have been an ardent Nazi in the 1930's Germany. Tribal.
'Fraid people who believe nonsense of the type I mentioned are not at
all "invented", if you don't personally know any or have never met any
maybe it's cuz you live in one of the most leftist places on Earth? ???
Humans are incredibly diverse. You blame and mock (and imagine)
people who have different opinions than yours.
I think this intolerant diversity is evolved, naturally selected, as a
tribal survival mechanism. Probably your intolerance is genetic,
inherited; you can't help yourself.
This tribal tendency for intolerance is why we have wars.
You are emotionally driven to believe that you are always right. That attitude, emotionally selective blindness and hostility to ideas, is
toxic to electronic design. I guess that's why so few people are good
at it.
On 1/5/2025 11:26 AM, john larkin wrote:
On Sun, 5 Jan 2025 11:09:12 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
On 1/5/2025 11:01 AM, john larkin wrote:
Deplorable is is deplorable does, man. What am I supposed to tell people >>>>> who think violent crime "is way up" when it's been going down for 50 >>>>> years and that children are regularly getting sex changes, or whatever >>>>> nonsense some significant fraction of citizens choose to believe today. >>>>> "Yeah, you're right?"
Plenty of very well-to-do people seem to believe the same nonsense, so >>>>> it's not really a class-thing.
You invent people as targets for your need for contempt. You would
have been an ardent Nazi in the 1930's Germany. Tribal.
'Fraid people who believe nonsense of the type I mentioned are not at
all "invented", if you don't personally know any or have never met any
maybe it's cuz you live in one of the most leftist places on Earth? ???
Humans are incredibly diverse. You blame and mock (and imagine)
people who have different opinions than yours.
It's not about opinions like, what ice cream flavor is best or whether
it's better to like golf or basketball. Trump built a political empire >peddling fear of marginalized people and I think it's a particular
tactic worth mocking, yes. Pretty disingenuous to shift the goalpoasts
to some broad fashion of intolerance that's not the real issue, you know
what this is about..
I think this intolerant diversity is evolved, naturally selected, as a
tribal survival mechanism. Probably your intolerance is genetic,
inherited; you can't help yourself.
This tribal tendency for intolerance is why we have wars.
Perhaps your tendency to like flattery is inherited, you can't help
yourself.
Sounds kind of like you're blaming me for the existence of war
which could be considered flattering in a certain light but I'll have to >demure on that one. I don't think I have such power, my dastardly
leftist genes or whatever aren't up to the task.
You are emotionally driven to believe that you are always right. That
attitude, emotionally selective blindness and hostility to ideas, is
toxic to electronic design. I guess that's why so few people are good
at it.
That's true, I even miss Jim Thompson from time to time. He was better
at it than you
On Sun, 5 Jan 2025 11:09:12 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
On 1/5/2025 11:01 AM, john larkin wrote:
'Fraid people who believe nonsense of the type I mentioned are not atDeplorable is is deplorable does, man. What am I supposed to tell
people who think violent crime "is way up" when it's been going down
for 50 years and that children are regularly getting sex changes, or
whatever nonsense some significant fraction of citizens choose to
believe today. "Yeah, you're right?"
Plenty of very well-to-do people seem to believe the same nonsense,
so it's not really a class-thing.
You invent people as targets for your need for contempt. You would
have been an ardent Nazi in the 1930's Germany. Tribal.
all "invented", if you don't personally know any or have never met any >>maybe it's cuz you live in one of the most leftist places on Earth? ???
Humans are incredibly diverse. You blame and mock (and imagine) people
who have different opinions than yours.
I think this intolerant diversity is evolved, naturally selected, as a
tribal survival mechanism. Probably your intolerance is genetic,
inherited; you can't help yourself.
This tribal tendency for intolerance is why we have wars.
You are emotionally driven to believe that you are always right. That attitude, emotionally selective blindness and hostility to ideas, is
toxic to electronic design. I guess that's why so few people are good at
it.
On 1/5/2025 11:01 AM, john larkin wrote:
On Sat, 4 Jan 2025 17:45:19 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
On 1/4/2025 5:04 PM, john larkin wrote:
On Sat, 4 Jan 2025 14:33:10 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
On 1/4/2025 12:20 PM, john larkin wrote:
On Sat, 4 Jan 2025 11:30:07 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote: >>>>>>
On 1/4/2025 11:09 AM, john larkin wrote:
Fox News et al. generates a whole variety of fatuous nonsense and they
see what gets clicks and eyeballs and what doesn't, throw shit at the >>>>>>>>> wall and see what sticks.
Then they feed the most highly-rated nonsense to Trump/Musk/Vance et al
who bring it up in their next speech or X post and the hoi polloi are >>>>>>>>> like "Wow, they know what's on our minds. they really understand us!" >>>>>>>>
You sneer at the people who keep you alive. Maybe they shouldn't >>>>>>>> bother.
PS: I can do my own tech support, plumbing, and car repair, and the >>>>>>> overwhelming majority of Americans aren't farmers. And robots and >>>>>>> migrant labor don't vote.
Do you generate your own electricity, pump your own water, kill your >>>>>> own chickens, do your own surgery and nursing, chop your own wood to >>>>>> heat your house?
Keep bees for wax and honey? We did that.
Are we operating under the premise that there are only conservatives in >>>>> the service industry sector, and the trades?
I don't have much further to add to this (somewhat confusing) scenario >>>>> if that's the case because I reject the premise as being silly. There >>>>> are no leftists in medicine or nursing, now?
I didn't start studying electronics seriously until my late 20s, and >>>>> didn't make any money at it for years after that. I've had lots of jobs >>>>> over the years, washing dishes, delivering papers, stocking shelves, >>>>> tech support, sales, senior care-giving..
Not sure what grudge you think I have against the "working class", I >>>>> _am_ the working class!
But are you a hoi polloi ?
Deplorable is is deplorable does, man. What am I supposed to tell people >>> who think violent crime "is way up" when it's been going down for 50
years and that children are regularly getting sex changes, or whatever
nonsense some significant fraction of citizens choose to believe today.
"Yeah, you're right?"
Plenty of very well-to-do people seem to believe the same nonsense, so
it's not really a class-thing.
You invent people as targets for your need for contempt. You would
have been an ardent Nazi in the 1930's Germany. Tribal.
also: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law>
On Sun, 5 Jan 2025 11:18:16 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
On 1/5/2025 11:01 AM, john larkin wrote:
On Sat, 4 Jan 2025 17:45:19 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:also: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law>
On 1/4/2025 5:04 PM, john larkin wrote:
On Sat, 4 Jan 2025 14:33:10 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:Deplorable is is deplorable does, man. What am I supposed to tell
On 1/4/2025 12:20 PM, john larkin wrote:
On Sat, 4 Jan 2025 11:30:07 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net>
wrote:
On 1/4/2025 11:09 AM, john larkin wrote:
Fox News et al. generates a whole variety of fatuous nonsense >>>>>>>>>> and they see what gets clicks and eyeballs and what doesn't, >>>>>>>>>> throw shit at the wall and see what sticks.
Then they feed the most highly-rated nonsense to
Trump/Musk/Vance et al who bring it up in their next speech or >>>>>>>>>> X post and the hoi polloi are like "Wow, they know what's on >>>>>>>>>> our minds. they really understand us!"
You sneer at the people who keep you alive. Maybe they shouldn't >>>>>>>>> bother.
PS: I can do my own tech support, plumbing, and car repair, and >>>>>>>> the overwhelming majority of Americans aren't farmers. And robots >>>>>>>> and migrant labor don't vote.
Do you generate your own electricity, pump your own water, kill
your own chickens, do your own surgery and nursing, chop your own >>>>>>> wood to heat your house?
Keep bees for wax and honey? We did that.
Are we operating under the premise that there are only
conservatives in the service industry sector, and the trades?
I don't have much further to add to this (somewhat confusing)
scenario if that's the case because I reject the premise as being
silly. There are no leftists in medicine or nursing, now?
I didn't start studying electronics seriously until my late 20s,
and didn't make any money at it for years after that. I've had lots >>>>>> of jobs over the years, washing dishes, delivering papers, stocking >>>>>> shelves, tech support, sales, senior care-giving..
Not sure what grudge you think I have against the "working class", >>>>>> I _am_ the working class!
But are you a hoi polloi ?
people who think violent crime "is way up" when it's been going down
for 50 years and that children are regularly getting sex changes, or
whatever nonsense some significant fraction of citizens choose to
believe today. "Yeah, you're right?"
Plenty of very well-to-do people seem to believe the same nonsense,
so it's not really a class-thing.
You invent people as targets for your need for contempt. You would
have been an ardent Nazi in the 1930's Germany. Tribal.
Makes sense. Nazi-ism was a tribal/racial-purity movement that killed
maybe 100 million people and is damaging the world still.
Nazi Germany tolerated no dissent, like China, Russia, Cuba, North
Korea, Iran today.
None do notable electronic design. The Enlightment was good for
electronic design, kick started free thinking.
On Sun, 05 Jan 2025 09:53:24 -0800, john larkin wrote:
On Sun, 5 Jan 2025 11:18:16 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
On 1/5/2025 11:01 AM, john larkin wrote:
On Sat, 4 Jan 2025 17:45:19 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:also: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law>
On 1/4/2025 5:04 PM, john larkin wrote:
On Sat, 4 Jan 2025 14:33:10 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote: >>>>>>Deplorable is is deplorable does, man. What am I supposed to tell
On 1/4/2025 12:20 PM, john larkin wrote:
On Sat, 4 Jan 2025 11:30:07 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net>
wrote:
On 1/4/2025 11:09 AM, john larkin wrote:
Fox News et al. generates a whole variety of fatuous nonsense >>>>>>>>>>> and they see what gets clicks and eyeballs and what doesn't, >>>>>>>>>>> throw shit at the wall and see what sticks.
Then they feed the most highly-rated nonsense to
Trump/Musk/Vance et al who bring it up in their next speech or >>>>>>>>>>> X post and the hoi polloi are like "Wow, they know what's on >>>>>>>>>>> our minds. they really understand us!"
You sneer at the people who keep you alive. Maybe they shouldn't >>>>>>>>>> bother.
PS: I can do my own tech support, plumbing, and car repair, and >>>>>>>>> the overwhelming majority of Americans aren't farmers. And robots >>>>>>>>> and migrant labor don't vote.
Do you generate your own electricity, pump your own water, kill >>>>>>>> your own chickens, do your own surgery and nursing, chop your own >>>>>>>> wood to heat your house?
Keep bees for wax and honey? We did that.
Are we operating under the premise that there are only
conservatives in the service industry sector, and the trades?
I don't have much further to add to this (somewhat confusing)
scenario if that's the case because I reject the premise as being >>>>>>> silly. There are no leftists in medicine or nursing, now?
I didn't start studying electronics seriously until my late 20s, >>>>>>> and didn't make any money at it for years after that. I've had lots >>>>>>> of jobs over the years, washing dishes, delivering papers, stocking >>>>>>> shelves, tech support, sales, senior care-giving..
Not sure what grudge you think I have against the "working class", >>>>>>> I _am_ the working class!
But are you a hoi polloi ?
people who think violent crime "is way up" when it's been going down >>>>> for 50 years and that children are regularly getting sex changes, or >>>>> whatever nonsense some significant fraction of citizens choose to
believe today. "Yeah, you're right?"
Plenty of very well-to-do people seem to believe the same nonsense,
so it's not really a class-thing.
You invent people as targets for your need for contempt. You would
have been an ardent Nazi in the 1930's Germany. Tribal.
Makes sense. Nazi-ism was a tribal/racial-purity movement that killed
maybe 100 million people and is damaging the world still.
Nazi Germany tolerated no dissent, like China, Russia, Cuba, North
Korea, Iran today.
None do notable electronic design. The Enlightment was good for
electronic design, kick started free thinking.
To be fair, the Nazis did come up with some truly outstanding science in
the field of warfare, despite the absence of totally free thinking in most >other areas. Likewise, Russia has achieved wonders with its hypersonic >missile program. So creativity can still flourish, even under the most >totalitarian regimes, it seems. (Just a shame it's all for the wrong >purposes!)
On Sat, 4 Jan 2025 17:45:19 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
On 1/4/2025 5:04 PM, john larkin wrote:
On Sat, 4 Jan 2025 14:33:10 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
On 1/4/2025 12:20 PM, john larkin wrote:
On Sat, 4 Jan 2025 11:30:07 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
On 1/4/2025 11:09 AM, john larkin wrote:
Fox News et al. generates a whole variety of fatuous nonsense and they >>>>>>>> see what gets clicks and eyeballs and what doesn't, throw shit at the >>>>>>>> wall and see what sticks.
Then they feed the most highly-rated nonsense to Trump/Musk/Vance et al
who bring it up in their next speech or X post and the hoi polloi are >>>>>>>> like "Wow, they know what's on our minds. they really understand us!" >>>>>>>
You sneer at the people who keep you alive. Maybe they shouldn't >>>>>>> bother.
PS: I can do my own tech support, plumbing, and car repair, and the >>>>>> overwhelming majority of Americans aren't farmers. And robots and
migrant labor don't vote.
Do you generate your own electricity, pump your own water, kill your >>>>> own chickens, do your own surgery and nursing, chop your own wood to >>>>> heat your house?
Keep bees for wax and honey? We did that.
Are we operating under the premise that there are only conservatives in >>>> the service industry sector, and the trades?
I don't have much further to add to this (somewhat confusing) scenario >>>> if that's the case because I reject the premise as being silly. There
are no leftists in medicine or nursing, now?
I didn't start studying electronics seriously until my late 20s, and
didn't make any money at it for years after that. I've had lots of jobs >>>> over the years, washing dishes, delivering papers, stocking shelves,
tech support, sales, senior care-giving..
Not sure what grudge you think I have against the "working class", I
_am_ the working class!
But are you a hoi polloi ?
Deplorable is is deplorable does, man. What am I supposed to tell people
who think violent crime "is way up" when it's been going down for 50
years and that children are regularly getting sex changes, or whatever
nonsense some significant fraction of citizens choose to believe today.
"Yeah, you're right?"
Plenty of very well-to-do people seem to believe the same nonsense, so
it's not really a class-thing.
You invent people as targets for your need for contempt. You would
have been an ardent Nazi in the 1930's Germany. Tribal.
On Sun, 05 Jan 2025 08:26:56 -0800, john larkin wrote:
On Sun, 5 Jan 2025 11:09:12 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
On 1/5/2025 11:01 AM, john larkin wrote:
'Fraid people who believe nonsense of the type I mentioned are not atDeplorable is is deplorable does, man. What am I supposed to tell
people who think violent crime "is way up" when it's been going down >>>>> for 50 years and that children are regularly getting sex changes, or >>>>> whatever nonsense some significant fraction of citizens choose to
believe today. "Yeah, you're right?"
Plenty of very well-to-do people seem to believe the same nonsense,
so it's not really a class-thing.
You invent people as targets for your need for contempt. You would
have been an ardent Nazi in the 1930's Germany. Tribal.
all "invented", if you don't personally know any or have never met any
maybe it's cuz you live in one of the most leftist places on Earth? ???
Humans are incredibly diverse. You blame and mock (and imagine) people
who have different opinions than yours.
I think this intolerant diversity is evolved, naturally selected, as a
tribal survival mechanism. Probably your intolerance is genetic,
inherited; you can't help yourself.
This tribal tendency for intolerance is why we have wars.
You are emotionally driven to believe that you are always right. That
attitude, emotionally selective blindness and hostility to ideas, is
toxic to electronic design. I guess that's why so few people are good at
it.
Well, to be fair, unlike Bill Sloman, Bitrex at least *attempts* to put together some form of rational argument - even if it doesn't stand up to scrutiny (very few Leftist arguments stand scrutiny, so that's no
reflection on him, he just has crap ideology to work with and you can't
make a silk purse out of a pig's ear).
On Sun, 5 Jan 2025 11:18:16 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
On 1/5/2025 11:01 AM, john larkin wrote:
On Sat, 4 Jan 2025 17:45:19 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
On 1/4/2025 5:04 PM, john larkin wrote:
On Sat, 4 Jan 2025 14:33:10 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
On 1/4/2025 12:20 PM, john larkin wrote:
On Sat, 4 Jan 2025 11:30:07 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote: >>>>>>>
On 1/4/2025 11:09 AM, john larkin wrote:
You invent people as targets for your need for contempt. You would
have been an ardent Nazi in the 1930's Germany. Tribal.
also: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law>
Makes sense. Nazi-ism was a tribal/racial-purity movement that killed
maybe 100 million people and is damaging the world still.
Nazi Germany tolerated no dissent, like China, Russia, Cuba, North
Korea, Iran today.
None do notable electronic design. The Enlightment was good for
electronic design, kick started free thinking.
On Sun, 05 Jan 2025 09:53:24 -0800, john larkin wrote:
On Sun, 5 Jan 2025 11:18:16 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
On 1/5/2025 11:01 AM, john larkin wrote:
On Sat, 4 Jan 2025 17:45:19 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
On 1/4/2025 5:04 PM, john larkin wrote:
On Sat, 4 Jan 2025 14:33:10 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote: >>>>>>
On 1/4/2025 12:20 PM, john larkin wrote:
On Sat, 4 Jan 2025 11:30:07 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net>
wrote:
On 1/4/2025 11:09 AM, john larkin wrote:
You invent people as targets for your need for contempt. You wouldalso: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law>
have been an ardent Nazi in the 1930's Germany. Tribal.
Makes sense. Nazi-ism was a tribal/racial-purity movement that killed
maybe 100 million people and is damaging the world still.
Nazi Germany tolerated no dissent, like China, Russia, Cuba, North
Korea, Iran today.
None do notable electronic design. The Enlightment was good for
electronic design, kick started free thinking.
To be fair, the Nazis did come up with some truly outstanding science in
the field of warfare, despite the absence of totally free thinking in most other areas.
Likewise, Russia has achieved wonders with its hypersonic
missile program. So creativity can still flourish, even under the most totalitarian regimes, it seems. (Just a shame it's all for the wrong purposes!).
On Sun, 5 Jan 2025 11:09:12 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
On 1/5/2025 11:01 AM, john larkin wrote:
Deplorable is is deplorable does, man. What am I supposed to tell people >>>> who think violent crime "is way up" when it's been going down for 50
years and that children are regularly getting sex changes, or whatever >>>> nonsense some significant fraction of citizens choose to believe today. >>>> "Yeah, you're right?"
Plenty of very well-to-do people seem to believe the same nonsense, so >>>> it's not really a class-thing.
You invent people as targets for your need for contempt. You would
have been an ardent Nazi in the 1930's Germany. Tribal.
'Fraid people who believe nonsense of the type I mentioned are not at
all "invented", if you don't personally know any or have never met any
maybe it's cuz you live in one of the most leftist places on Earth? ???
Humans are incredibly diverse. You blame and mock (and imagine)
people who have different opinions than yours.
I think this intolerant diversity is evolved, naturally selected, as a
tribal survival mechanism. Probably your intolerance is genetic,
inherited; you can't help yourself.
This tribal tendency for intolerance is why we have wars.
You are emotionally driven to believe that you are always right.
That attitude, emotionally selective blindness and hostility to ideas, is toxic to electronic design. I guess that's why so few people are good
at it.
On Sun, 5 Jan 2025 12:04:46 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
On 1/5/2025 11:26 AM, john larkin wrote:
On Sun, 5 Jan 2025 11:09:12 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
On 1/5/2025 11:01 AM, john larkin wrote:Humans are incredibly diverse. You blame and mock (and imagine)
Deplorable is is deplorable does, man. What am I supposed to tell people >>>>>> who think violent crime "is way up" when it's been going down for 50 >>>>>> years and that children are regularly getting sex changes, or whatever >>>>>> nonsense some significant fraction of citizens choose to believe today. >>>>>> "Yeah, you're right?"
Plenty of very well-to-do people seem to believe the same nonsense, so >>>>>> it's not really a class-thing.
You invent people as targets for your need for contempt. You would
have been an ardent Nazi in the 1930's Germany. Tribal.
'Fraid people who believe nonsense of the type I mentioned are not at
all "invented", if you don't personally know any or have never met any >>>> maybe it's cuz you live in one of the most leftist places on Earth? ??? >>>
people who have different opinions than yours.
It's not about opinions like, what ice cream flavor is best or whether
it's better to like golf or basketball. Trump built a political empire
peddling fear of marginalized people and I think it's a particular
tactic worth mocking, yes. Pretty disingenuous to shift the goalpoasts
to some broad fashion of intolerance that's not the real issue, you know
what this is about..
I think this intolerant diversity is evolved, naturally selected, as a
tribal survival mechanism. Probably your intolerance is genetic,
inherited; you can't help yourself.
This tribal tendency for intolerance is why we have wars.
Perhaps your tendency to like flattery is inherited, you can't help
yourself.
You are copying me and cloning Sloman. Neither is difficult nor
original.
I dislike flattery; I find it embarassing. My employees know that I
don't like a bunch of public praise, as many CEOs get.
Sounds kind of like you're blaming me for the existence of war
which could be considered flattering in a certain light but I'll have to
demure on that one. I don't think I have such power, my dastardly
leftist genes or whatever aren't up to the task.
I'm blaming tribalism, and intolerance is a big part of tribalism. As
is racism. And professional sports. And music.
You are emotionally driven to believe that you are always right. That
attitude, emotionally selective blindness and hostility to ideas, is
toxic to electronic design. I guess that's why so few people are good
at it.
That's true, I even miss Jim Thompson from time to time. He was better
at it than you
He was creative but digital-phobic, which is another irrational
intolerance. Code is a great way to do advanced signal processing
cheap. But Jim and I did different things so it's hard to compare.
People are different.
But you can't know much about what I design, because I don't post the
best stuff.
I rate Alan Dower Blumlein as the first modern electronic designer. He
was born in 1903 and died in 1942. His genius didn't owe much to the enlightenment, but he was brilliant at collaborating with his
colleagues.
On Sat, 4 Jan 2025 11:30:07 -0500, bitrex wrote:
On 1/4/2025 11:09 AM, john larkin wrote:
Fox News et al. generates a whole variety of fatuous nonsense and they >>>> see what gets clicks and eyeballs and what doesn't, throw shit at the
wall and see what sticks.
Then they feed the most highly-rated nonsense to Trump/Musk/Vance et
al who bring it up in their next speech or X post and the hoi polloi
are like "Wow, they know what's on our minds. they really understand
us!"
You sneer at the people who keep you alive. Maybe they shouldn't
bother.
PS: I can do my own tech support, plumbing, and car repair, and the
overwhelming majority of Americans aren't farmers. And robots and
migrant labor don't vote.
"Migrant labor" certainly had the chance as there was nothing to stop them
or anyone else, especially in places like California where - AIUI - it's illegal to ask for voter ID. So come one, come all: legals, illegals,
those who want to vote more than once and even dead people! No one turned away. You can't get any more inclusive than that. :-)
Is what 'they' said at the outset. Now it emerges he had an ISIS flag in
his truck at the time! No wonder fewer and fewer people are trusting the legacy media. This is why it's so important to have citizen journalists mobilised and fact-checking what's really going on when these incidents occur. I don't suppose the rather embarrassing presence of the flag
would have been revealed otherwise.
On Wed, 1 Jan 2025 18:00:46 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom wrote:
Is what 'they' said at the outset. Now it emerges he had an ISIS flag in
his truck at the time! No wonder fewer and fewer people are trusting the
legacy media. This is why it's so important to have citizen journalists
mobilised and fact-checking what's really going on when these incidents
occur. I don't suppose the rather embarrassing presence of the flag
would have been revealed otherwise.
It also explains why there's such a huge delay in organising a press conference - they need to take the time to get their story straight. Can
you imagine how differently this would have been handled if the assailant
had been an "extreme right" MAGA guy?
Is what 'they' said at the outset. Now it emerges he had an ISIS flag in
his truck at the time! No wonder fewer and fewer people are trusting the legacy media. This is why it's so important to have citizen journalists mobilised and fact-checking what's really going on when these incidents occur. I don't suppose the rather embarrassing presence of the flag would have been revealed otherwise.
Is what 'they' said at the outset. Now it emerges he had an ISIS flag in
his truck at the time! No wonder fewer and fewer people are trusting the legacy media. This is why it's so important to have citizen journalists mobilised and fact-checking what's really going on when these incidents occur. I don't suppose the rather embarrassing presence of the flag would have been revealed otherwise.
On 02-Jan-25 2:00 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
Is what 'they' said at the outset. Now it emerges he had an ISIS flag in
his truck at the time! No wonder fewer and fewer people are trusting the
legacy media. This is why it's so important to have citizen journalists
mobilised and fact-checking what's really going on when these incidents
occur. I don't suppose the rather embarrassing presence of the flag would
have been revealed otherwise.
For years the conspiracy theorists were telling us that governments were using the threat of terrorism to take away our freedoms.
Now the conspiracy theory is that governments are hiding the existence
of terrorism from us.
So which is it?
Is what 'they' said at the outset. Now it emerges he had an ISIS flag in
his truck at the time! No wonder fewer and fewer people are trusting the >legacy media. This is why it's so important to have citizen journalists >mobilised and fact-checking what's really going on when these incidents >occur. I don't suppose the rather embarrassing presence of the flag would >have been revealed otherwise.
On 02-Jan-25 2:00 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
Is what 'they' said at the outset. Now it emerges he had an ISIS flag
in his truck at the time! No wonder fewer and fewer people are trusting
the legacy media. This is why it's so important to have citizen
journalists mobilised and fact-checking what's really going on when
these incidents occur. I don't suppose the rather embarrassing presence
of the flag would have been revealed otherwise.
For years the conspiracy theorists were telling us that governments were using the threat of terrorism to take away our freedoms.
Now the conspiracy theory is that governments are hiding the existence
of terrorism from us.
So which is it?
On 02-Jan-25 2:00 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
Is what 'they' said at the outset. Now it emerges he had an ISIS flag in
his truck at the time! No wonder fewer and fewer people are trusting the
legacy media. This is why it's so important to have citizen journalists
mobilised and fact-checking what's really going on when these incidents
occur. I don't suppose the rather embarrassing presence of the flag would
have been revealed otherwise.
For years the conspiracy theorists were telling us that governments were >using the threat of terrorism to take away our freedoms.
Now the conspiracy theory is that governments are hiding the existence
of terrorism from us.
So which is it?
Sylvia.
On Wed, 1 Jan 2025 18:00:46 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom <cd999666@notformail.com> wrote:
Is what 'they' said at the outset. Now it emerges he had an ISIS flag in
his truck at the time! No wonder fewer and fewer people are trusting the
legacy media. This is why it's so important to have citizen journalists
mobilised and fact-checking what's really going on when these incidents
occur. I don't suppose the rather embarrassing presence of the flag would
have been revealed otherwise.
The guy that exploded the Cybertruck in Vegas was coordinated.
On Thu, 2 Jan 2025 19:24:31 +0800, Sylvia Else wrote:
On 02-Jan-25 2:00 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
Is what 'they' said at the outset. Now it emerges he had an ISIS flag
in his truck at the time! No wonder fewer and fewer people are trusting
the legacy media. This is why it's so important to have citizen
journalists mobilised and fact-checking what's really going on when
these incidents occur. I don't suppose the rather embarrassing presence
of the flag would have been revealed otherwise.
For years the conspiracy theorists were telling us that governments were
using the threat of terrorism to take away our freedoms.
Now the conspiracy theory is that governments are hiding the existence
of terrorism from us.
So which is it?
Both. One man's terrorist is another man's freedom-fighter and the 'bad
guy' changes from year to year as circumstances demand. Most people's memories don't go back far enough to notice and 'The Press' - who should
be exposing these inconsistencies - are pointedly ignoring them.
On Thu, 2 Jan 2025 19:24:31 +0800, Sylvia Else wrote:
On 02-Jan-25 2:00 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
Is what 'they' said at the outset. Now it emerges he had an ISIS flag
in his truck at the time! No wonder fewer and fewer people are trusting
the legacy media. This is why it's so important to have citizen
journalists mobilised and fact-checking what's really going on when
these incidents occur. I don't suppose the rather embarrassing presence
of the flag would have been revealed otherwise.
For years the conspiracy theorists were telling us that governments were
using the threat of terrorism to take away our freedoms.
Now the conspiracy theory is that governments are hiding the existence
of terrorism from us.
So which is it?
Both. One man's terrorist is another man's freedom-fighter and the 'bad
guy' changes from year to year as circumstances demand. Most people's memories don't go back far enough to notice and 'The Press' - who should
be exposing these inconsistencies - are pointedly ignoring them.
On Thu, 2 Jan 2025 19:24:31 +0800, Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid>wereat
wrote:
On 02-Jan-25 2:00 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
Is what 'they' said at the outset. Now it emerges he had an ISIS flag
in his truck at the time! No wonder fewer and fewer people are
trusting the legacy media. This is why it's so important to have
citizen journalists mobilised and fact-checking what's really going on
when these incidents occur. I don't suppose the rather embarrassing
presence of the flag would have been revealed otherwise.
For years the conspiracy theorists were telling us that governments
using the threat of terrorism to take away our freedoms.
Now the conspiracy theory is that governments are hiding the existence
of terrorism from us.
So which is it?
Sylvia.
There is no single Ministey Of Conspiracy Theory. There's diversity in
the lunatic fringe world.
On 02-Jan-25 2:00 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
Is what 'they' said at the outset. Now it emerges he had an ISIS flag in
his truck at the time! No wonder fewer and fewer people are trusting the
legacy media. This is why it's so important to have citizen journalists
mobilised and fact-checking what's really going on when these incidents
occur. I don't suppose the rather embarrassing presence of the flag would
have been revealed otherwise.
For years the conspiracy theorists were telling us that governments were >using the threat of terrorism to take away our freedoms.
Now the conspiracy theory is that governments are hiding the existence
of terrorism from us.
So which is it?
Sylvia.
On Thu, 2 Jan 2025 19:24:31 +0800, Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid>
wrote:
On 02-Jan-25 2:00 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
Is what 'they' said at the outset. Now it emerges he had an ISIS flag in >>> his truck at the time! No wonder fewer and fewer people are trusting the >>> legacy media. This is why it's so important to have citizen journalists
mobilised and fact-checking what's really going on when these incidents
occur. I don't suppose the rather embarrassing presence of the flag would >>> have been revealed otherwise.
For years the conspiracy theorists were telling us that governments were
using the threat of terrorism to take away our freedoms.
Now the conspiracy theory is that governments are hiding the existence
of terrorism from us.
So which is it?
Sylvia.
Chaotic complex nonlinear systems have the property that their future
gross states can't be predicted far into the future, because they are exquisitely sensitive to the cant-be-exactly-known current state.
But the chaos effect works in negative time too. T=0 is an arbitrary
instant. So the causality of the present is suspect in a chaotic
system too.
So most any conspiracy theory has a chance of being true.
On Thu, 02 Jan 2025 19:02:23 -0800, john larkin wrote:
On Thu, 2 Jan 2025 19:24:31 +0800, Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid>wereat
wrote:
On 02-Jan-25 2:00 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
Is what 'they' said at the outset. Now it emerges he had an ISIS flag
in his truck at the time! No wonder fewer and fewer people are
trusting the legacy media. This is why it's so important to have
citizen journalists mobilised and fact-checking what's really going on >>>> when these incidents occur. I don't suppose the rather embarrassing
presence of the flag would have been revealed otherwise.
For years the conspiracy theorists were telling us that governments
using the threat of terrorism to take away our freedoms.
Now the conspiracy theory is that governments are hiding the existence
of terrorism from us.
So which is it?
Sylvia.
There is no single Ministey Of Conspiracy Theory. There's diversity in
the lunatic fringe world.
Obama's birth certificate springs to mind here. There are equal numbers of people calling it out as a fake as there are calling these same people conspiracy nuts and lunatics.
refuse to accept that this document is 100% a crude and obvious forgery.
Do they seriously deluded enough to believe that its genuine or are they
just intentionally lying?
It just beggars belief that someone (Obama) in that position can commit a crime like that and not even be investigated - officially - over it.
There's some serious corruption at work in America and AISI, it's the No.1 thing Trump needs to deal with this time, because he conspicuously failed first time around - despite all those campaign pledges to "drain the
swamp."
On 4/01/2025 5:52 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Thu, 02 Jan 2025 19:02:23 -0800, john larkin wrote:
On Thu, 2 Jan 2025 19:24:31 +0800, Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid>wereat
wrote:
On 02-Jan-25 2:00 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
Is what 'they' said at the outset. Now it emerges he had an ISIS flag >>>>> in his truck at the time! No wonder fewer and fewer people are
trusting the legacy media. This is why it's so important to have
citizen journalists mobilised and fact-checking what's really going on >>>>> when these incidents occur. I don't suppose the rather embarrassing
presence of the flag would have been revealed otherwise.
For years the conspiracy theorists were telling us that governments
using the threat of terrorism to take away our freedoms.
Now the conspiracy theory is that governments are hiding the existence >>>> of terrorism from us.
So which is it?
Sylvia.
There is no single Ministey Of Conspiracy Theory. There's diversity in
the lunatic fringe world.
Obama's birth certificate springs to mind here. There are equal
numbers of
people calling it out as a fake as there are calling these same people
conspiracy nuts and lunatics.
It's a lunatic fringe.
Obama's birth certificate springs to mind here. There are equal
numbers of
people calling it out as a fake as there are calling these same people
conspiracy nuts and lunatics.
It's a lunatic fringe.
On 2/01/2025 10:24 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
On 02-Jan-25 2:00 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
Is what 'they' said at the outset. Now it emerges he had an ISIS flag inthat
his truck at the time! No wonder fewer and fewer people are trusting the >>> legacy media. This is why it's so important to have citizen journalists
mobilised and fact-checking what's really going on when these incidents
occur. I don't suppose the rather embarrassing presence of the flag
would
have been revealed otherwise.
For years the conspiracy theorists were telling us that governments
were using the threat of terrorism to take away our freedoms.
Now the conspiracy theory is that governments are hiding the existence
of terrorism from us.
So which is it?
No point in asking Cursitor Doom - he just looks for fatuous nonsense
and posts it here whenever he finds it.