• Re: Israels forgotten terror

    From Sharx335@21:1/5 to NefeshBarYochai on Mon Nov 25 21:47:21 2024
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    On 2024-11-25 9:21 p.m., NefeshBarYochai wrote:
    The International Criminal Court’s (ICJ) January finding of a
    “plausible genocide” in Gaza, and subsequent ruling that Israel is responsible for an apartheid system in the West Bank and East
    Jerusalem would not have surprised former Presidents Truman,
    Eisenhower, Johnson, Carter, or indeed Reagan, who famously denounced Israel’s 1982 levelling of West Beirut to Prime Minister Menachem
    Begin as a “holocaust”.

    Israel is the only US ally that has been exercising such oppression
    and terror for a lifetime. For many years, consecutive American administrations, both Democratic and Republican, condemned Israel’s recurring practice of terror. Today, however, the Biden-Harris administration has been supporting these practices to the extreme.

    Harry S Truman recognised Israel in May 1948, yet once re-elected in November, wrote of his “disgust” over how “the Jews are approaching
    the refugee problem”. Then his successor, Dwight Eisenhower, joined
    Winston Churchill, who’d returned as the UK’s prime minister, to
    censure Israel in the UN Security Council in November 1953.

    Paratroopers under Colonel Ariel Sharon, a future Israeli prime
    minister, had “shot every man, woman and child they could find,” in
    the Jordanian-controlled West Bank village of Qibya, according to Time magazine, leaving 69 dead. Prime Minister Ben-Gurion cried “anti-Semitism.”

    Eisenhower had Israel censured twice more: In March 1955, after a self-described Israeli “terror unit” bombed US consulate libraries in Cairo and Alexandria, seeking to blame Egypt, followed by an attack on Egyptian-controlled Gaza that killed 38; and in March 1956 over a
    so-called “retaliation” against Syria that killed 56 soldiers and civilians.

    “Upward of 2,700 Arab infiltrators, and perhaps as many as 5,000, were killed by the [Israeli military], police, and civilians along Israel’s borders between 1949 and 1956,” writes Israeli historian Benny Morris, “the vast majority of those killed were unarmed.” They were shepherds, farmers, Bedouins, and refugees.

    Eisenhower was unpersuaded by Israeli ambassador Abba Eban’s claims of self-defence, and Israel would keep inflicting vastly asymmetric
    episodes of terror for decades.

    In October 1956, after killing some 49 civilians in the village of
    Kafir Qasim near Tel Aviv, Israel invaded Egypt and immediately began massacring refugees in Khan Younis and Rafah. Eisenhower responded by declaring that the US would “apply sanctions” on Israel. When Israel still refused to withdraw from Gaza and Sharm El Sheikh, the US
    president threatened to block its access to US financial markets. The
    Israeli retreat followed.

    In November 1966, Lyndon Johnson once again put “the Palestine
    Question” on the UN agenda to condemn Israel, this time after a
    massive attack on Jordan involving more than 3,000 soldiers. “The
    Israelis have done a great deal of damage to our interests and to
    their own,” concluded his National Security Adviser W W Rostow, adding
    that “they’ve wrecked a good system of tacit cooperation.”

    All-out war followed in 1967, after which Israel occupied the West
    Bank, Gaza, and East Jerusalem. The martial law imposed on the Arab population in Israel since the founding of the state was lifted in
    1966, but Jimmy Carter described the conditions imposed on
    Palestinians in the occupied Palestinian territory after the beginning
    of illegal Israeli settlement there as “apartheid”.

    With nothing resolved by 1982, Prime Minister Begin, a former Irgun
    terrorist against British authorities, vowed to “destroy” the
    Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO). He oversaw then-Defence
    Minister Ariel Sharon’s killing of some 18,000 Palestinians and
    Lebanese, overwhelmingly civilians, in Beirut. Belatedly, Reagan
    stopped the slaughter with a phone call, given Israel’s dependence. It
    was then that he described the Israeli onslaught as a “holocaust”.

    Despite using a word with such weight, however, the White House did
    not demand the UN censure Israel. The US had not attempted to sanction
    Israel even over its illegal settlements which spawned from the 1967
    war. Israeli Ambassador to the US Michael Oren explained why in his
    2007 book, Power, Faith, and Fantasy: America in the Middle East 1776
    to the Present. In the mid-1970s, he wrote, Israel’s supporters began
    to achieve “the financial and political clout necessary to sway congressional opinion” – meaning that they had acquired enough power
    to impede US official opposition to Israel at the UN or elsewhere.
    Ever since, Israel has taken US backing for granted, no matter the
    record of wildly disproportionate atrocities.

    In 1991, Israeli Prime Minister Itzhak Shamir, who had approved the
    murder of UN negotiator Folke Bernadotte, tried to explain why
    terrorism was “acceptable” for Jews, but not Arabs: Palestinians are “fighting for land that is not theirs. This is the land of the people
    of Israel.”

    Hamas’s October 7 attack on Israel was distinct. It was the only time
    that Palestinian resistance groups were able to react to decades of
    Israeli terror on a similar scale. In response to the attack, Israeli
    Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu simply doubled down on Israel’s
    recurring massacre-making, now backed by starvation and disease. The
    US administration took no meaningful action to stop “plausible
    genocide.”

    At this time, Israel has also become the only entity in the world that Washington allows to kill US citizens with impunity. The ever-growing
    list from the West Bank includes Aysenur Ezgi Eygi, Mohammad Khdour,
    and Shireen Abu Akleh – each killed with a shot to the head. No
    sanctions or renditions followed their deaths. The White House simply suggested the sniper-killings were “not acceptable” and asked Israel
    to “investigate” itself. The issue was swiftly dismissed.

    As Gaza’s torment enters its second year, Israel’s killing has reached unprecedented levels in the West Bank, and Lebanon once again becomes
    a target of Israel’s self-described retaliation. More is needed from Israel’s patron than mutterings to perhaps halt some arms shipments. Washington should not only stop upholding Israeli brutality, which
    includes apartheid but, like the UK, it can support the pending
    International Criminal Court indictments which are to, finally,
    include an Israeli prime minister.

    Past US presidents had tried to reign in Israeli behaviour of the sort
    that statesman Abba Eban came to describe, during Israel’s previous
    bombing of Beirut, as “wantonly inflicting every possible measure of
    death and anguish on civilian populations.” Time is overdue for Washington’s decisionmakers to follow those presidents’ examples, and
    to rescind diplomatic protection as well as weapons exports for
    Israel.


    https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2024/10/11/israels-forgotten-terror



    More half-truths and mostly B.S. from that organ of terrorists,
    albullshitta.

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to sharx35@telus.net on Tue Nov 26 06:52:24 2024
    XPost: seattle.politics, alt.global-warming, edm.general
    XPost: or.politics

    In article <vi3jsp$3alpn$1@dont-email.me>, Sharx335 <sharx35@telus.net> wrote: >On 2024-11-25 9:21 p.m., NefeshBarYochai wrote:
    The International Criminal Court’s (ICJ) January finding of a
    “plausible genocide” in Gaza, and subsequent ruling that Israel is
    responsible for an apartheid system in the West Bank and East
    Jerusalem would not have surprised former Presidents Truman,
    Eisenhower, Johnson, Carter, or indeed Reagan, who famously denounced
    Israel’s 1982 levelling of West Beirut to Prime Minister Menachem
    Begin as a “holocaust”.

    Israel is the only US ally that has been exercising such oppression
    and terror for a lifetime. For many years, consecutive American
    administrations, both Democratic and Republican, condemned Israel’s
    recurring practice of terror. Today, however, the Biden-Harris
    administration has been supporting these practices to the extreme.

    Harry S Truman recognised Israel in May 1948, yet once re-elected in
    November, wrote of his “disgust” over how “the Jews are approaching
    the refugee problem”. Then his successor, Dwight Eisenhower, joined
    Winston Churchill, who’d returned as the UK’s prime minister, to
    censure Israel in the UN Security Council in November 1953.

    Paratroopers under Colonel Ariel Sharon, a future Israeli prime
    minister, had “shot every man, woman and child they could find,” in
    the Jordanian-controlled West Bank village of Qibya, according to Time
    magazine, leaving 69 dead. Prime Minister Ben-Gurion cried
    “anti-Semitism.”

    Eisenhower had Israel censured twice more: In March 1955, after a
    self-described Israeli “terror unit” bombed US consulate libraries in
    Cairo and Alexandria, seeking to blame Egypt, followed by an attack on
    Egyptian-controlled Gaza that killed 38; and in March 1956 over a
    so-called “retaliation” against Syria that killed 56 soldiers and
    civilians.

    “Upward of 2,700 Arab infiltrators, and perhaps as many as 5,000, were
    killed by the [Israeli military], police, and civilians along Israel’s
    borders between 1949 and 1956,” writes Israeli historian Benny Morris,
    “the vast majority of those killed were unarmed.” They were shepherds, >> farmers, Bedouins, and refugees.

    Eisenhower was unpersuaded by Israeli ambassador Abba Eban’s claims of
    self-defence, and Israel would keep inflicting vastly asymmetric
    episodes of terror for decades.

    In October 1956, after killing some 49 civilians in the village of
    Kafir Qasim near Tel Aviv, Israel invaded Egypt and immediately began
    massacring refugees in Khan Younis and Rafah. Eisenhower responded by
    declaring that the US would “apply sanctions” on Israel. When Israel
    still refused to withdraw from Gaza and Sharm El Sheikh, the US
    president threatened to block its access to US financial markets. The
    Israeli retreat followed.

    In November 1966, Lyndon Johnson once again put “the Palestine
    Question” on the UN agenda to condemn Israel, this time after a
    massive attack on Jordan involving more than 3,000 soldiers. “The
    Israelis have done a great deal of damage to our interests and to
    their own,” concluded his National Security Adviser W W Rostow, adding
    that “they’ve wrecked a good system of tacit cooperation.”

    All-out war followed in 1967, after which Israel occupied the West
    Bank, Gaza, and East Jerusalem. The martial law imposed on the Arab
    population in Israel since the founding of the state was lifted in
    1966, but Jimmy Carter described the conditions imposed on
    Palestinians in the occupied Palestinian territory after the beginning
    of illegal Israeli settlement there as “apartheid”.

    With nothing resolved by 1982, Prime Minister Begin, a former Irgun
    terrorist against British authorities, vowed to “destroy” the
    Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO). He oversaw then-Defence
    Minister Ariel Sharon’s killing of some 18,000 Palestinians and
    Lebanese, overwhelmingly civilians, in Beirut. Belatedly, Reagan
    stopped the slaughter with a phone call, given Israel’s dependence. It
    was then that he described the Israeli onslaught as a “holocaust”.

    Despite using a word with such weight, however, the White House did
    not demand the UN censure Israel. The US had not attempted to sanction
    Israel even over its illegal settlements which spawned from the 1967
    war. Israeli Ambassador to the US Michael Oren explained why in his
    2007 book, Power, Faith, and Fantasy: America in the Middle East 1776
    to the Present. In the mid-1970s, he wrote, Israel’s supporters began
    to achieve “the financial and political clout necessary to sway
    congressional opinion” – meaning that they had acquired enough power
    to impede US official opposition to Israel at the UN or elsewhere.
    Ever since, Israel has taken US backing for granted, no matter the
    record of wildly disproportionate atrocities.

    In 1991, Israeli Prime Minister Itzhak Shamir, who had approved the
    murder of UN negotiator Folke Bernadotte, tried to explain why
    terrorism was “acceptable” for Jews, but not Arabs: Palestinians are
    “fighting for land that is not theirs. This is the land of the people
    of Israel.”

    Hamas’s October 7 attack on Israel was distinct. It was the only time
    that Palestinian resistance groups were able to react to decades of
    Israeli terror on a similar scale. In response to the attack, Israeli
    Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu simply doubled down on Israel’s
    recurring massacre-making, now backed by starvation and disease. The
    US administration took no meaningful action to stop “plausible
    genocide.”

    At this time, Israel has also become the only entity in the world that
    Washington allows to kill US citizens with impunity. The ever-growing
    list from the West Bank includes Aysenur Ezgi Eygi, Mohammad Khdour,
    and Shireen Abu Akleh – each killed with a shot to the head. No
    sanctions or renditions followed their deaths. The White House simply
    suggested the sniper-killings were “not acceptable” and asked Israel
    to “investigate” itself. The issue was swiftly dismissed.

    As Gaza’s torment enters its second year, Israel’s killing has reached >> unprecedented levels in the West Bank, and Lebanon once again becomes
    a target of Israel’s self-described retaliation. More is needed from
    Israel’s patron than mutterings to perhaps halt some arms shipments.
    Washington should not only stop upholding Israeli brutality, which
    includes apartheid but, like the UK, it can support the pending
    International Criminal Court indictments which are to, finally,
    include an Israeli prime minister.

    Past US presidents had tried to reign in Israeli behaviour of the sort
    that statesman Abba Eban came to describe, during Israel’s previous
    bombing of Beirut, as “wantonly inflicting every possible measure of
    death and anguish on civilian populations.” Time is overdue for
    Washington’s decisionmakers to follow those presidents’ examples, and
    to rescind diplomatic protection as well as weapons exports for
    Israel.


    https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2024/10/11/israels-forgotten-terror



    More half-truths and mostly B.S. from that organ of terrorists,
    albullshitta.

    Nefesh the TRoll has friends like Idlehands, Dr.WTF and Racist Rob.
    That is why Nefesh, the work of art , exist in edm.general .
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to jtem01@gmail.com on Tue Nov 26 06:52:49 2024
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    In article <vi3qs1$3bf7j$2@dont-email.me>, JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> wrote:
    NefeshBarYochai wrote:

    The International Criminal Court’s (ICJ) January finding of a
    “plausible genocide” in Gaza

    The war in Gaza could have and would have ended at any time, if
    Hamas had simply decided that the well being of the Palestinian
    people was more important than their lust for power, for control.

    If Gaza is a genocide it's a genocide that the people of Gaza
    keep endorsing, with their support of Hamas.



    Hear! Hear!!


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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to jtem01@gmail.com on Tue Nov 26 06:57:06 2024
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    XPost: or.politics

    In article <vi3rae$3bf7j$3@dont-email.me>, JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 11/25/24 11:47 PM, Sharx335 wrote:

    More half-truths and mostly B.S. from that organ of terrorists,
    albullshitta.

    At the end of WWII, the German people suffered terribly because
    the Nazis refused to surrender. The war was effectively lost
    ever since 1943, if not the end of 1942, but they fought on until
    the Russians were literally shooting Berlin into rubble.

    That is Hamas.

    Every day without exception, the terrorists of Hamas wake up &
    decide that they would rather see every last Palestinian die
    than give up control or even the hostages.

    Every day without exception the Palestinian people choose Hamas
    over their homes or even the lives of their families.

    As I said elsewhere:

    An Israeli father who looks out his window & sees Hamas is
    morally obligated to pick up a gun and kill them. And a
    Palestinian father who looks out his window & sees Hamas is
    morally obligated to do the same. In both cases the father
    is morally obligated to protect his family.

    Hamas wants dead babies. Hamas wants the Palestinian people to
    die. It's good for business. The more dead babies they can
    engineer, the more "Outrage" they can pretend to feel, the more
    sympathy & support they can demand from the rest of the world.

    There will never be peace with Hamas. It's literally impossible.
    At best there can only ever be a ceasefire.... a temporary pause
    in the killing.

    There is no solution that involves the existence of Hamas.





    Nefesh and his friends Idlehands, Dr.WTf and Racist Rob
    are the rubbish tio of edm.general .




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