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As nobody seems to be covering this very important club
tournament taking place in the USA next Summer, I thought I'd
start the ball rolling...
The draw this evening threw up an interesting group for
everyone's favourite team in Blue, ("World Champions" in 2021 of
course) but it seems there are a lot of other teams taking part,
so we might as well cover the whole draw!
2025 FIFA Club World Cup Group Stage Draw:
Group A: Palmeiras, FC Porto, Al Ahly, Inter Miami
Group B: Paris Saint-Germain, Atletico Madrid, Botafogo, Seattle
Sounders
Group C: Bayern Munich, Auckland City, Boca Juniors, Benfica
Group D: Flamengo, Espérance, Chelsea FC, Club Leon
Group E: River Plate, Urawa Red Diamonds, CF Monterrey,
Inter-Milan
Group F: Fluminense, Borussia Dortmund, Ulsan HD, Mamelodi
Sundowns
Group G: Manchester City, Wydad AC, Al Ain,Juventus
Group H: Real Madrid, Al-Hilal, Pachuca, FC Salzburg
The tournament starts on 15th June 2025 and is being broadcast
on DAZN (Free!)
As nobody seems to be covering this very important club
tournament taking place in the USA next Summer, I thought I'd
start the ball rolling...
The draw this evening threw up an interesting group for
everyone's favourite team in Blue, ("World Champions" in 2021 of
course) but it seems there are a lot of other teams taking part,
so we might as well cover the whole draw!
2025 FIFA Club World Cup Group Stage Draw:
Group A: Palmeiras, FC Porto, Al Ahly, Inter Miami
Group B: Paris Saint-Germain, Atletico Madrid, Botafogo, Seattle
Sounders
Group C: Bayern Munich, Auckland City, Boca Juniors, Benfica
Group D: Flamengo, Espérance, Chelsea FC, Club Leon
Group E: River Plate, Urawa Red Diamonds, CF Monterrey,
Inter-Milan
Group F: Fluminense, Borussia Dortmund, Ulsan HD, Mamelodi
Sundowns
Group G: Manchester City, Wydad AC, Al Ain,Juventus
Group H: Real Madrid, Al-Hilal, Pachuca, FC Salzburg
The tournament starts on 15th June 2025 and is being broadcast
on DAZN (Free!)
As nobody seems to be covering this very important club
tournament taking place in the USA next Summer, I thought I'd
start the ball rolling...
The draw this evening threw up an interesting group for
everyone's favourite team in Blue, ("World Champions" in 2021 of
course) but it seems there are a lot of other teams taking part,
so we might as well cover the whole draw!
2025 FIFA Club World Cup Group Stage Draw:
Group A: Palmeiras, FC Porto, Al Ahly, Inter Miami
Group B: Paris Saint-Germain, Atletico Madrid, Botafogo, Seattle
Sounders
Group C: Bayern Munich, Auckland City, Boca Juniors, Benfica
Group D: Flamengo, Espérance, Chelsea FC, Club Leon
Group E: River Plate, Urawa Red Diamonds, CF Monterrey,
Inter-Milan
Group F: Fluminense, Borussia Dortmund, Ulsan HD, Mamelodi
Sundowns
Group G: Manchester City, Wydad AC, Al Ain,Juventus
Group H: Real Madrid, Al-Hilal, Pachuca, FC Salzburg
The tournament starts on 15th June 2025 and is being broadcast
on DAZN (Free!)
In article <xn0ou7jnl1od68q000@post.eweka.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
As nobody seems to be covering this very important club
tournament taking place in the USA next Summer, I thought I'd
start the ball rolling...
The draw this evening threw up an interesting group for
everyone's favourite team in Blue, ("World Champions" in
2021 of course) but it seems there are a lot of other teams
taking part, so we might as well cover the whole draw!
2025 FIFA Club World Cup Group Stage Draw:
Group A: Palmeiras, FC Porto, Al Ahly, Inter Miami
Group B: Paris Saint-Germain, Atletico Madrid, Botafogo,
Seattle Sounders
Group C: Bayern Munich, Auckland City, Boca Juniors, Benfica
Group D: Flamengo, Espérance, Chelsea FC, Club Leon
Group E: River Plate, Urawa Red Diamonds, CF Monterrey,
Inter-Milan
Group F: Fluminense, Borussia Dortmund, Ulsan HD, Mamelodi
Sundowns
Group G: Manchester City, Wydad AC, Al Ain,Juventus
Group H: Real Madrid, Al-Hilal, Pachuca, FC Salzburg
The tournament starts on 15th June 2025 and is being
broadcast on DAZN (Free!)
Yes!
On Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:42:21 +0000, Blueshirt wrote:
As nobody seems to be covering this very important club
tournament taking place in the USA next Summer, I thought I'd
start the ball rolling...
The draw this evening threw up an interesting group for
everyone's favourite team in Blue, ("World Champions" in
2021 of course) but it seems there are a lot of other teams
taking part, so we might as well cover the whole draw!
Very intriguing. I'm definitely interested in running a
SophCon for this.
2025 FIFA Club World Cup Group Stage Draw:
Group A: Palmeiras, FC Porto, Al Ahly, Inter Miami
Hmm... can Inter Miami pull the upset here? Naah, Porto and
Palmeiras.
I wasnt sure if thing was a real thing or not. But I guess it
is, it seemed to be on all afternoon, with people who knew
nothing about what was going on. I just thought it was me
drinking all afternooon.
On Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:42:21 +0000, Blueshirt wrote:
2025 FIFA Club World Cup Group Stage Draw:
Group A: Palmeiras, FC Porto, Al Ahly, Inter Miami
Hmm... can Inter Miami pull the upset here? Naah, Porto and Palmeiras.
Group B: Paris Saint-Germain, Atletico Madrid, Botafogo, Seattle
Sounders
PSG and Atleti
Group C: Bayern Munich, Auckland City, Boca Juniors, Benfica
Bayern and Benfica
How do you say "Let's Go Munich" in German ?
On Fri, 6 Dec 2024 1:34:16 +0000, Futbolmetrix wrote:
On Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:42:21 +0000, Blueshirt wrote:
2025 FIFA Club World Cup Group Stage Draw:
Group A: Palmeiras, FC Porto, Al Ahly, Inter Miami
Hmm... can Inter Miami pull the upset here? Naah, Porto and Palmeiras.
Group B: Paris Saint-Germain, Atletico Madrid, Botafogo, Seattle
Sounders
PSG and Atleti
Group C: Bayern Munich, Auckland City, Boca Juniors, Benfica
Bayern and Benfica
With no Canadian team represented i will have to root for Bayern Munich.
How do you say "Let's Go Munich" in German ?
--
Vive Les Nordiques!
In article <xn0ou8jlj2jxnir000@post.eweka.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
In article <xn0ou7jnl1od68q000@post.eweka.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
2025 FIFA Club World Cup Group Stage Draw:
Group A: Palmeiras, FC Porto, Al Ahly, Inter Miami
Group B: Paris Saint-Germain, Atletico Madrid, Botafogo,
Seattle Sounders
Group C: Bayern Munich, Auckland City, Boca Juniors,
Benfica
Group D: Flamengo, Espérance, Chelsea FC, Club Leon
Group E: River Plate, Urawa Red Diamonds, CF Monterrey,
Inter-Milan
Group F: Fluminense, Borussia Dortmund, Ulsan HD, Mamelodi
Sundowns
Group G: Manchester City, Wydad AC, Al Ain,Juventus
Group H: Real Madrid, Al-Hilal, Pachuca, FC Salzburg
The tournament starts on 15th June 2025 and is being
broadcast on DAZN (Free!)
Yes!
Oh look, the Arse are not in this tournament... what a pity.
Neither is Chelsea
The Doctor wrote:
In article <xn0ou7jnl1od68q000@post.eweka.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
As nobody seems to be covering this very important club
tournament taking place in the USA next Summer, I thought I'd
start the ball rolling...
The draw this evening threw up an interesting group for
everyone's favourite team in Blue, ("World Champions" in
2021 of course) but it seems there are a lot of other teams
taking part, so we might as well cover the whole draw!
2025 FIFA Club World Cup Group Stage Draw:
Group A: Palmeiras, FC Porto, Al Ahly, Inter Miami
Group B: Paris Saint-Germain, Atletico Madrid, Botafogo,
Seattle Sounders
Group C: Bayern Munich, Auckland City, Boca Juniors, Benfica
Group D: Flamengo, Espérance, Chelsea FC, Club Leon
Group E: River Plate, Urawa Red Diamonds, CF Monterrey,
Inter-Milan
Group F: Fluminense, Borussia Dortmund, Ulsan HD, Mamelodi
Sundowns
Group G: Manchester City, Wydad AC, Al Ain,Juventus
Group H: Real Madrid, Al-Hilal, Pachuca, FC Salzburg
The tournament starts on 15th June 2025 and is being
broadcast on DAZN (Free!)
Yes!
Oh look, the Arse are not in this tournament... what a pity.
:-)
The Doctor wrote:
In article <xn0ou8jlj2jxnir000@post.eweka.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
In article <xn0ou7jnl1od68q000@post.eweka.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
2025 FIFA Club World Cup Group Stage Draw:
Group A: Palmeiras, FC Porto, Al Ahly, Inter Miami
Group B: Paris Saint-Germain, Atletico Madrid, Botafogo,
Seattle Sounders
Group C: Bayern Munich, Auckland City, Boca Juniors,
Benfica
Group D: Flamengo, Espérance, Chelsea FC, Club Leon
Group E: River Plate, Urawa Red Diamonds, CF Monterrey,
Inter-Milan
Group F: Fluminense, Borussia Dortmund, Ulsan HD, Mamelodi
Sundowns
Group G: Manchester City, Wydad AC, Al Ain,Juventus
Group H: Real Madrid, Al-Hilal, Pachuca, FC Salzburg
The tournament starts on 15th June 2025 and is being
broadcast on DAZN (Free!)
Yes!
Oh look, the Arse are not in this tournament... what a pity.
Neither is Chelsea
<face palm>
Er... try again!
As nobody seems to be covering this very important club
tournament taking place in the USA next Summer, I thought I'd
start the ball rolling...
The draw this evening threw up an interesting group for
everyone's favourite team in Blue, ("World Champions" in 2021 of
course) but it seems there are a lot of other teams taking part,
so we might as well cover the whole draw!
2025 FIFA Club World Cup Group Stage Draw:
Group A: Palmeiras, FC Porto, Al Ahly, Inter Miami
Group B: Paris Saint-Germain, Atletico Madrid, Botafogo, Seattle
Sounders
Group C: Bayern Munich, Auckland City, Boca Juniors, Benfica
Group D: Flamengo, Espérance, Chelsea FC, Club Leon
Group E: River Plate, Urawa Red Diamonds, CF Monterrey,
Inter-Milan
Group F: Fluminense, Borussia Dortmund, Ulsan HD, Mamelodi
Sundowns
Group G: Manchester City, Wydad AC, Al Ain,Juventus
Group H: Real Madrid, Al-Hilal, Pachuca, FC Salzburg
The tournament starts on 15th June 2025 and is being broadcast
on DAZN (Free!)
On Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:42:21 +0000, Blueshirt wrote:
As nobody seems to be covering this very important club
tournament taking place in the USA next Summer, I thought I'd
start the ball rolling...
The draw this evening threw up an interesting group for
everyone's favourite team in Blue, ("World Champions" in 2021 of
course) but it seems there are a lot of other teams taking part,
so we might as well cover the whole draw!
2025 FIFA Club World Cup Group Stage Draw:
Group A: Palmeiras, FC Porto, Al Ahly, Inter Miami
Matches in Miami, New Jersey, and Atlanta
Group B: Paris Saint-Germain, Atletico Madrid, Botafogo, Seattle
Sounders
Pasadena and Seattle
Group C: Bayern Munich, Auckland City, Boca Juniors, Benfica
Cincinnati, Atlanta, Miami, Orlando, Nashville and Charlotte
Group D: Flamengo, Espérance, Chelsea FC, Club Leon
Atlanta, Philly, Nashville and Orlando
Group E: River Plate, Urawa Red Diamonds, CF Monterrey,
Inter-Milan
Pasadena and Seattle
Group F: Fluminense, Borussia Dortmund, Ulsan HD, Mamelodi
Sundowns
New Jersey, Cincinnati, Orlando and Miami
Group G: Manchester City, Wydad AC, Al Ain,Juventus
DC, Philly, Atlanta and Orlando
Group H: Real Madrid, Al-Hilal, Pachuca, FC Salzburg
6 diferent venues: Miami, Cincinnati, Charlotte, DC , Nashville and
Philly
The tournament starts on 15th June 2025 and is being broadcast
on DAZN (Free!)
In article <248931a0a9234793598c29cf922062f9@www.novabbs.com>,
Futbolmetrix <futbolmetrix@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Thu, 5 Dec 2024 19:42:21 +0000, Blueshirt wrote:
2025 FIFA Club World Cup Group Stage Draw:
Group A: Palmeiras, FC Porto, Al Ahly, Inter Miami
Matches in Miami, New Jersey, and Atlanta
Group B: Paris Saint-Germain, Atletico Madrid, Botafogo,
Seattle Sounders
Pasadena and Seattle
Group C: Bayern Munich, Auckland City, Boca Juniors, Benfica
Cincinnati, Atlanta, Miami, Orlando, Nashville and Charlotte
Group D: Flamengo, Espérance, Chelsea FC, Club Leon
Atlanta, Philly, Nashville and Orlando
Group E: River Plate, Urawa Red Diamonds, CF Monterrey,
Inter-Milan
Pasadena and Seattle
Group F: Fluminense, Borussia Dortmund, Ulsan HD, Mamelodi
Sundowns
New Jersey, Cincinnati, Orlando and Miami
Group G: Manchester City, Wydad AC, Al Ain,Juventus
DC, Philly, Atlanta and Orlando
Group H: Real Madrid, Al-Hilal, Pachuca, FC Salzburg
6 diferent venues: Miami, Cincinnati, Charlotte, DC ,
Nashville and Philly
The tournament starts on 15th June 2025 and is being
broadcast on DAZN (Free!)
Matches in Yankeeland?
What not Canada and Mexico?
As nobody seems to be covering this very important club
tournament taking place in the USA next Summer, I thought I'd
start the ball rolling...
The draw this evening threw up an interesting group for
everyone's favourite team in Blue, ("World Champions" in 2021 of
course) but it seems there are a lot of other teams taking part,
so we might as well cover the whole draw!
2025 FIFA Club World Cup Group Stage Draw:
Group A: Palmeiras, FC Porto, Al Ahly, Inter Miami
So, given that Europe is being given 12 places at this tournament,
compared to 1 for Oceania and only 6 for South America even, based on
some unspecified "set of objective metrics and criteria", is this really
a genuine World Championship? It's extremely unfair. Should we boycott
it?
So, given that Europe is being given 12 places at this tournament,
compared to 1 for Oceania and only 6 for South America even, based on
some unspecified "set of objective metrics and criteria", is this really
a genuine World Championship?
it?
So, given that Europe is being given 12 places at this
tournament, compared to 1 for Oceania and only 6 for South
America even, based on some unspecified "set of objective
metrics and criteria", is this really a genuine World
Championship? It's extremely unfair. Should we boycott it?
On 2024-12-09 12:01, Mark wrote:
So, given that Europe is being given 12 places at this
tournament, compared to 1 for Oceania and only 6 for South
America even, based on some unspecified "set of objective
metrics and criteria", is this really a genuine World
Championship?
Of course not.
If some teams qualify based on results 4 years ago, and others
based on being in the host country, and yet others based on an
aribtrary quota of two teams per country (Salzburg I am
looking at you) it is pretty hard to call this a genuine world
championship.
It's extremely unfair. Should we boycott it?
I plan to. Really not at all interested in another
unnecessary tournament which the UEFA teams will dominate
anyway, even if Liverpool, Barcelona, Bayer, Arsenal, Atalanta
and Napoli and the like have been excluded in favour of weaker
UEFA teams.
MH wrote:
Really not at all interested in another unnecessary
tournament which the UEFA teams will dominate anyway,
even if Liverpool, Barcelona, Bayer, Arsenal, Atalanta
and Napoli and the like have been excluded in favour
of weaker UEFA teams.
Arsenal? They've never even been European Champions... and
since Mikel Arteta took over they have done nothing bar win
one FA Cup and blow the league...
Blueshirt wrote:
MH wrote:
Really not at all interested in another unnecessary
tournament which the UEFA teams will dominate anyway,
even if Liverpool, Barcelona, Bayer, Arsenal, Atalanta
and Napoli and the like have been excluded in favour
of weaker UEFA teams.
Arsenal? They've never even been European Champions... and
since Mikel Arteta took over they have done nothing bar win
one FA Cup and blow the league...
Whilst on the subject of the Arse...
Blueshirt Trivia #628
Of the current TOP SIX in the English Premier League the only
team NOT to have been European Champions is... Arsenal.
FIFA money grabs above all.
Whilst on the subject of English football, the only team
that's only ever won the World Cup in the year they hosted it
and never won it (or even reached the final) outside of their
own country is England.
Anyway, I want to know why Fluminense, Chelsea, Flamengo etc
get another chance to win the Club World Cup. They've had
their chance. There was absolutely no point in having this
tournament since 2021 once it was known that they were
changing it to every 4 years!
On Mon, 9 Dec 2024 20:34:53 +0000, Werner Pichler wrote:
FIFA money grabs above all.
I just watched the 2030 + 2024 world cup announcements on youtube and
the only reason they are taking a big soccer tournament back to the
desert is that oil money has been donated to F I F A. = It's about as
genuine as Santa Claus.
On Wed, 11 Dec 2024 16:04:18 +0000, Silver Skull wrote:
On Mon, 9 Dec 2024 20:34:53 +0000, Werner Pichler wrote:
FIFA money grabs above all.
I just watched the 2030 + 2024 world cup announcements on youtube and
the only reason they are taking a big soccer tournament back to the
desert is that oil money has been donated to F I F A. = It's about as
genuine as Santa Claus.
Have FIFA actually admitted that then?
Mark <pammiesheart@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
On Wed, 11 Dec 2024 16:04:18 +0000, Silver Skull wrote:
On Mon, 9 Dec 2024 20:34:53 +0000, Werner Pichler wrote:
FIFA money grabs above all.
I just watched the 2030 + 2024 world cup announcements on
youtube and the only reason they are taking a big soccer
tournament back to the desert is that oil money has been
donated to F I F A. = It's about as genuine as Santa Claus.
Have FIFA actually admitted that then?
Are you actually expecting an official FIFA
communique that says ‘yes, of course we are
corrupt’?
On Wed, 11 Dec 2024 16:04:18 +0000, Silver Skull wrote:
On Mon, 9 Dec 2024 20:34:53 +0000, Werner Pichler wrote:
FIFA money grabs above all.
I just watched the 2030 + 2024 world cup announcements on youtube and
the only reason they are taking a big soccer tournament back to the
desert is that oil money has been donated to F I F A. = It's about as
genuine as Santa Claus.
Have FIFA actually admitted that then?
On Fri, 13 Dec 2024 12:52:20 +0000, Mark wrote:
On Wed, 11 Dec 2024 16:04:18 +0000, Silver Skull wrote:
On Mon, 9 Dec 2024 20:34:53 +0000, Werner Pichler wrote:
FIFA money grabs above all.
I just watched the 2030 + 2024 world cup announcements on youtube and
the only reason they are taking a big soccer tournament back to the
desert is that oil money has been donated to F I F A. = It's about as
genuine as Santa Claus.
Have FIFA actually admitted that then?
It is possible that the 2034 World Cup was awarded to Saudi Arabia
because of their great soccer heritage and outstanding human rights
record. All that oil money might be an irrelevance to the F.I.F.A.
President and his executives. Maybe, just maybe, Saudi Arabia got
awarded it on merit.
What do you think ?
On Sat, 14 Dec 2024 23:59:45 +0000, Silver Skull wrote:
On Fri, 13 Dec 2024 12:52:20 +0000, Mark wrote:
On Wed, 11 Dec 2024 16:04:18 +0000, Silver Skull wrote:
On Mon, 9 Dec 2024 20:34:53 +0000, Werner Pichler wrote:
FIFA money grabs above all.
I just watched the 2030 + 2024 world cup announcements
on youtube and the only reason they are taking a big
soccer tournament back to the desert is that oil money
has been donated to F I F A. = It's about as genuine as
Santa Claus.
Have FIFA actually admitted that then?
It is possible that the 2034 World Cup was awarded to Saudi
Arabia because of their great soccer heritage and
outstanding human rights record. All that oil money might be
an irrelevance to the F.I.F.A. President and his
executives. Maybe, just maybe, Saudi Arabia got awarded it
on merit.
What do you think ?
Well, what evidence is there?
Innocent until proved guilty and all that.
(And maybe I can be a counterbalance to Blueshirt's
cynicism.)
On Fri, 6 Dec 2024 1:34:16 +0000, Futbolmetrix wrote:
Group C: Bayern Munich, Auckland City, Boca Juniors, Benfica
Bayern and Benfica
With no Canadian team represented i will have to root for Bayern Munich.
How do you say "Let's Go Munich" in German ?
On Sat, 14 Dec 2024 23:59:45 +0000, Silver Skull wrote:
On Fri, 13 Dec 2024 12:52:20 +0000, Mark wrote:
On Wed, 11 Dec 2024 16:04:18 +0000, Silver Skull wrote:
On Mon, 9 Dec 2024 20:34:53 +0000, Werner Pichler wrote:
FIFA money grabs above all.
I just watched the 2030 + 2024 world cup announcements on youtube and
the only reason they are taking a big soccer tournament back to the
desert is that oil money has been donated to F I F A. = It's about as
genuine as Santa Claus.
Have FIFA actually admitted that then?
It is possible that the 2034 World Cup was awarded to Saudi Arabia
because of their great soccer heritage and outstanding human rights
record. All that oil money might be an irrelevance to the F.I.F.A.
President and his executives. Maybe, just maybe, Saudi Arabia got
awarded it on merit.
What do you think ?
Well, what evidence is there? Innocent until proved guilty and all that.
(And maybe I can be a counterbalance to Blueshirt's cynicism.)
On the balance of probabilities i would be leaning very much
towards the viewpoint that the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia bought
the 2034 F.I.F.A. World Cup by spreading its oil money around
to a variety of F.I.F.A. bank accounts and-or it's leading
directors. This oil money would of course have officially'
been classified as "sponsorship money" of some description for
"the good of the game".