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I think if we go Chess/Checker it could beat Sun/Phillips. There is also Aristocrat and Argo. Here are my top favorites from the Chess Record
Company.
Chess/Checker/Argo released lots of great records in the 60s. Sun's lastgreat release was in 1958.
Roger, I know you record collector types want to keep this to the actual label rather than all labels that each company used, but I don't agree
with that.
On Fri, 9 May 2025 16:58:11 +0000, Bruce wrote:
I think if we go Chess/Checker it could beat Sun/Phillips. There is also
Aristocrat and Argo. Here are my top favorites from the Chess Record
Company.
Chess/Checker/Argo released lots of great records in the 60s. Sun's lastgreat release was in 1958.
Roger, I know you record collector types want to keep this to the actual
label rather than all labels that each company used, but I don't agree
with that.
The basic premise of these posts are "continuing my favorites label-by-label".
Thats the way thy're compiled and that's the way they'll appear.
So yes there'll be A Checker along the way and an Argo too.
On Fri, 9 May 2025 17:56:33 +0000, Roger wrote:
On Fri, 9 May 2025 16:58:11 +0000, Bruce wrote:
I think if we go Chess/Checker it could beat Sun/Phillips. There is also >>> Aristocrat and Argo. Here are my top favorites from the Chess Record
Company.
Chess/Checker/Argo released lots of great records in the 60s. Sun's last >>> great release was in 1958.
Roger, I know you record collector types want to keep this to the actual >>> label rather than all labels that each company used, but I don't agree
with that.
The basic premise of these posts are "continuing my favorites
label-by-label".
Thats the way thy're compiled and that's the way they'll appear.
So yes there'll be A Checker along the way and an Argo too.
I understand that, but different labels issued by the same company are
just semantics and trivia. I'm a lot more interested in which record companies in total had the best material. Atlantic/Atco/Cat should also
do very well.
Roger, do you agree with the following statement?
Atlantic's biggest hit single of the 50's was "Mack The Knife" by Bobby Darin.
On Fri, 9 May 2025 18:41:00 +0000, Bruce wrote:
Roger, do you agree with the following statement?
Atlantic's biggest hit single of the 50's was "Mack The Knife" by Bobby
Darin.
I think its better(and more accurately) presented as "Atlantic's biggest
hit single of the '50's was "Mack The Knife" by Bobby Darin on the
subsidiary Atco label"
On Fri, 9 May 2025 17:56:33 +0000, Roger wrote:
On Fri, 9 May 2025 16:58:11 +0000, Bruce wrote:
I think if we go Chess/Checker it could beat Sun/Phillips. There is also >>> Aristocrat and Argo. Here are my top favorites from the Chess Record
Company.
Chess/Checker/Argo released lots of great records in the 60s. Sun's last >>> great release was in 1958.
Roger, I know you record collector types want to keep this to the actual >>> label rather than all labels that each company used, but I don't agree
with that.
The basic premise of these posts are "continuing my favorites
label-by-label".
Thats the way thy're compiled and that's the way they'll appear.
So yes there'll be A Checker along the way and an Argo too.
I understand that, but different labels issued by the same company are
just semantics and trivia. I'm a lot more interested in which record companies in total had the best material. Atlantic/Atco/Cat should also
do very well.
Sam Phillips is gaining an advantage here because his output wasn't big enough to require a second label until after the company's prime was
just about over.
Continuing my favorites label-by-label......today CHESS in Chicago
1 Johnny B. Goode Chuck Berry -1958
2 Rocket 88 Jackie Brenston - 1951
3 Maybellene Chuck Berry - 1955
4 Roll Over Beethoven Chuck Berry - 1956
5 Rock And Roll Music Chuck Berry - 1957
6 Let It Rock Chuck Berry - 1960
7 School Day (Ring! Ring! Goes The Bell) Chuck Berry - 1957
8 Spoonful Howlin' Wolf - 1960
9 Reelin And Rocking Chuck Berry - 1958
10 Wang Dang Doodle Howlin' Wolf - 1961
11 Sweet Little Sixteen Chuck Berry - 1958
12 Madison Blues Elmore James (unreleased) – 1960
13 Sincerely Moonglows - 1954
14 You Can’t Catch Me Chuck Berry - 1956
15 Too Much Monkey Business Chuck Berry - 1956
16 Brown Eyed Handsome Man Chuck Berry - 1956
17 Built For Comfort Howlin’ Wolf - 1963
18 The Red Rooster Howlin' Wolf - 1961
19 How Many More Years Howlin’Wolf - 1951
20 Manish Boy Muddy Waters - 1955
BUBBLING UNDER
21 Run,Rudolph,Run Chuck Berry – 1958
22 Booted Rosco Gordon - 1951
23 I'm Your Hootchie Coochie Man Muddy Waters - 1954
24 Who’s Been Talkin’ Howlin’ Wolf – 1960
25 Around And Around Chuck Berry - 1958
My favorite record of all time is "Still A Fool" by Muddy Waters from
1951.
My favorite Chuck Berry record is "Carol," followed closely by "Roll
Over Beethoven." My favorite Howlin' Wolf record is "Smokestack
Lightning."
Other Chess faves include "Mardi Gras Mambo" by the Hawketts, "Nadine"
by the Coronets, "Most Of All" by the Moonglows, "That's All Right" by
Jimmy Rogers, "Poison Ivy" by Willie Mabon, "Trouble No More" by Muddy,
"I'm A Little Mixed Up" by Betty James, and "Teardrops" by Questlove's
father and the Hearts.
When we get to the cusp year of 1963 there's "Mama Didn't Lie" by Jan
Bradley
On Fri, 9 May 2025 18:21:59 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On Fri, 9 May 2025 17:56:33 +0000, Roger wrote:
On Fri, 9 May 2025 16:58:11 +0000, Bruce wrote:
I think if we go Chess/Checker it could beat Sun/Phillips. There is also >>>> Aristocrat and Argo. Here are my top favorites from the Chess Record
Company.
Chess/Checker/Argo released lots of great records in the 60s. Sun's last >>>> great release was in 1958.
Roger, I know you record collector types want to keep this to the actual >>>> label rather than all labels that each company used, but I don't agree >>>> with that.
The basic premise of these posts are "continuing my favorites
label-by-label".
Thats the way thy're compiled and that's the way they'll appear.
So yes there'll be A Checker along the way and an Argo too.
I understand that, but different labels issued by the same company are
just semantics and trivia. I'm a lot more interested in which record
companies in total had the best material. Atlantic/Atco/Cat should also
do very well.
Sam Phillips is gaining an advantage here because his output wasn't big
enough to require a second label until after the company's prime was
just about over.
Not so. He had a subsidary label running in 1955
"I'm A Little Mixed Up" by Betty James,
There is nothing to stop someone who thinks as you do adding the
results of Chess, Checker and Argo together when they appear (plus a
couple of others) --
On Fri, 9 May 2025 20:51:24 +0000, DianeE wrote:
My favorite record of all time is "Still A Fool" by Muddy Waters from
1951.
My favorite Chuck Berry record is "Carol," followed closely by "Roll
Over Beethoven." My favorite Howlin' Wolf record is "Smokestack
Lightning."
Other Chess faves include "Mardi Gras Mambo" by the Hawketts, "Nadine"
by the Coronets, "Most Of All" by the Moonglows, "That's All Right" by
Jimmy Rogers, "Poison Ivy" by Willie Mabon, "Trouble No More" by Muddy,
"I'm A Little Mixed Up" by Betty James, and "Teardrops" by Questlove's
father and the Hearts.
When we get to the cusp year of 1963 there's "Mama Didn't Lie" by Jan
Bradley
Record collector Roger will tell you that "Mama Didn't Lie" doesn't
count because Chess is not the original label for the release.
https://images.45cat.com/jan-bradley-lovers-like-me-formal.jpg
On 5/9/2025 1:51 PM, DianeE wrote:
"I'm A Little Mixed Up" by Betty James,
Very nice to read this. I nominated this in April 2021, and based on how
much we two like it, I thought perhaps it had at least a final 4 chance,
but no... but you did do very well, perhaps the best ever ?
April 2021 FINAL RANKINGS
1. Waitin' In School - Ricky Nelson - 25
2. The ABC's of Love - Frankie Lymon & Teenagers - 23
3. Crazy Arms - Jerry Lee Lewis - 22
4. Jungle Juice - Sticks McGhee - 20
Diane's records take the top 2 spots. Mark does not get that elusive
first win and his Jerry Lee ends up third with my Stick McGhee 4th.
This is a shocker for me, with "Waitin' In School" winning.
On Fri, 9 May 2025 19:58:31 +0000, Roger wrote:
On Fri, 9 May 2025 18:21:59 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On Fri, 9 May 2025 17:56:33 +0000, Roger wrote:
On Fri, 9 May 2025 16:58:11 +0000, Bruce wrote:
I think if we go Chess/Checker it could beat Sun/Phillips. There is also >>>>> Aristocrat and Argo. Here are my top favorites from the Chess Record >>>>> Company.
Chess/Checker/Argo released lots of great records in the 60s. Sun's last >>>>> great release was in 1958.
Roger, I know you record collector types want to keep this to the actual >>>>> label rather than all labels that each company used, but I don't agree >>>>> with that.
The basic premise of these posts are "continuing my favorites
label-by-label".
Thats the way thy're compiled and that's the way they'll appear.
So yes there'll be A Checker along the way and an Argo too.
I understand that, but different labels issued by the same company are
just semantics and trivia. I'm a lot more interested in which record
companies in total had the best material. Atlantic/Atco/Cat should also
do very well.
Sam Phillips is gaining an advantage here because his output wasn't big
enough to require a second label until after the company's prime was
just about over.
Not so. He had a subsidary label running in 1955
What Flip?
How many releases
and how many releases that anybody would list as an
all time favorite?
I think there are only 6 releases on the label. It's
not like he released a bunch of classic records on the label like
Leonard Chess did with Checker. The point remains the same.
--
On 5/9/2025 6:00 PM, Bruce wrote:
On Fri, 9 May 2025 20:51:24 +0000, DianeE wrote:
My favorite record of all time is "Still A Fool" by Muddy Waters from
1951.
My favorite Chuck Berry record is "Carol," followed closely by "Roll
Over Beethoven." My favorite Howlin' Wolf record is "Smokestack
Lightning."
Other Chess faves include "Mardi Gras Mambo" by the Hawketts, "Nadine"
by the Coronets, "Most Of All" by the Moonglows, "That's All Right" by
Jimmy Rogers, "Poison Ivy" by Willie Mabon, "Trouble No More" by Muddy,
"I'm A Little Mixed Up" by Betty James, and "Teardrops" by Questlove's
father and the Hearts.
When we get to the cusp year of 1963 there's "Mama Didn't Lie" by Jan
Bradley
Record collector Roger will tell you that "Mama Didn't Lie" doesn't
count because Chess is not the original label for the release.
https://images.45cat.com/jan-bradley-lovers-like-me-formal.jpg
--------
Okay, I didn't know that. Draw a line through that statement.
On Sat, 10 May 2025 2:28:30 +0000, DianeE wrote:
On 5/9/2025 6:00 PM, Bruce wrote:
On Fri, 9 May 2025 20:51:24 +0000, DianeE wrote:
My favorite record of all time is "Still A Fool" by Muddy Waters from
1951.
My favorite Chuck Berry record is "Carol," followed closely by "Roll
Over Beethoven." My favorite Howlin' Wolf record is "Smokestack
Lightning."
Other Chess faves include "Mardi Gras Mambo" by the Hawketts, "Nadine" >>>> by the Coronets, "Most Of All" by the Moonglows, "That's All Right" by >>>> Jimmy Rogers, "Poison Ivy" by Willie Mabon, "Trouble No More" by Muddy, >>>> "I'm A Little Mixed Up" by Betty James, and "Teardrops" by Questlove's >>>> father and the Hearts.
When we get to the cusp year of 1963 there's "Mama Didn't Lie" by Jan
Bradley
Record collector Roger will tell you that "Mama Didn't Lie" doesn't
count because Chess is not the original label for the release.
https://images.45cat.com/jan-bradley-lovers-like-me-formal.jpg
--------
Okay, I didn't know that. Draw a line through that statement.
Not so. If a "bought in" record rates high enough on my faves list it
will appear.
To use Diane's example that Betty James record is a HUGE fave of mine
and nearly made the list I posted. A list of Checker faves will almost certainly include The Students "I'm So Young" with mention being made
that it originated from the Note label in Indianapolis
On Fri, 9 May 2025 19:35:50 +0000, Roger wrote:
On Fri, 9 May 2025 18:41:00 +0000, Bruce wrote:
Roger, do you agree with the following statement?
Atlantic's biggest hit single of the 50's was "Mack The Knife" by Bobby
Darin.
I think its better(and more accurately) presented as "Atlantic's biggest
hit single of the '50's was "Mack The Knife" by Bobby Darin on the
subsidiary Atco label"
I don't see that as "more accurate." They are both just as accurate. One
just adds extra non pertinent information. The actual label on the 45
does not in any way change the crux of the statement.
On Sat, 10 May 2025 6:19:26 +0000, Roger wrote:
On Sat, 10 May 2025 2:28:30 +0000, DianeE wrote:
On 5/9/2025 6:00 PM, Bruce wrote:
On Fri, 9 May 2025 20:51:24 +0000, DianeE wrote:
My favorite record of all time is "Still A Fool" by Muddy Waters from >>>>> 1951.
My favorite Chuck Berry record is "Carol," followed closely by "Roll >>>>> Over Beethoven." My favorite Howlin' Wolf record is "Smokestack
Lightning."
Other Chess faves include "Mardi Gras Mambo" by the Hawketts, "Nadine" >>>>> by the Coronets, "Most Of All" by the Moonglows, "That's All Right" by >>>>> Jimmy Rogers, "Poison Ivy" by Willie Mabon, "Trouble No More" by Muddy, >>>>> "I'm A Little Mixed Up" by Betty James, and "Teardrops" by Questlove's >>>>> father and the Hearts.
When we get to the cusp year of 1963 there's "Mama Didn't Lie" by Jan >>>>> Bradley
Record collector Roger will tell you that "Mama Didn't Lie" doesn't
count because Chess is not the original label for the release.
https://images.45cat.com/jan-bradley-lovers-like-me-formal.jpg
--------
Okay, I didn't know that. Draw a line through that statement.
Not so. If a "bought in" record rates high enough on my faves list it
will appear.
To use Diane's example that Betty James record is a HUGE fave of mine
and nearly made the list I posted. A list of Checker faves will almost
certainly include The Students "I'm So Young" with mention being made
that it originated from the Note label in Indianapolis
What about the Capris on Old Town, would that be listed?
--
On Fri, 9 May 2025 19:51:21 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On Fri, 9 May 2025 19:35:50 +0000, Roger wrote:That's nonsense! The description I used conveys more accurate
On Fri, 9 May 2025 18:41:00 +0000, Bruce wrote:
Roger, do you agree with the following statement?
Atlantic's biggest hit single of the 50's was "Mack The Knife" by Bobby >>>> Darin.
I think its better(and more accurately) presented as "Atlantic's biggest >>> hit single of the '50's was "Mack The Knife" by Bobby Darin on the
subsidiary Atco label"
I don't see that as "more accurate." They are both just as accurate. One
just adds extra non pertinent information. The actual label on the 45
does not in any way change the crux of the statement.
information which is certainly pertinent and which is consequently more accurate than yours
On Sat, 10 May 2025 18:40:12 +0000, Roger wrote:
On Fri, 9 May 2025 19:51:21 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On Fri, 9 May 2025 19:35:50 +0000, Roger wrote:That's nonsense! The description I used conveys more accurate
On Fri, 9 May 2025 18:41:00 +0000, Bruce wrote:
Roger, do you agree with the following statement?
Atlantic's biggest hit single of the 50's was "Mack The Knife" by Bobby >>>>> Darin.
I think its better(and more accurately) presented as "Atlantic's biggest >>>> hit single of the '50's was "Mack The Knife" by Bobby Darin on the
subsidiary Atco label"
I don't see that as "more accurate." They are both just as accurate. One >>> just adds extra non pertinent information. The actual label on the 45
does not in any way change the crux of the statement.
information which is certainly pertinent and which is consequently more
accurate than yours
In order for yours to be "more accurate" there must be something about
mine that is inaccurate.
Yours goes into more detail, but that's very different from being "more accurate."
If I say "JFK won the 1960 Presidential election" and you say "JFK won
the 1960 presidential election when he beat Richard Nixon," yours is not
more accurate at all. It's just more detailed. Something does not become "more accurate" when more details are added.
If someone else said "JFK from Massachusetts won the 1960 Presidential election when he beat Richard Nixon of California, it is not more
accurate than saying "JFK won the 1960 presidential election when he
beat Richard Nixon," it's just more detailed, but just as accurate.
Something does not become more accurate merely because more details are added. More thorough, maybe, but not more accurate.
If I take your "Mack The Knife" statement of "Atlantic's biggest hit
single of the '50's was "Mack The Knife" by Bobby Darin on the
subsidiary Atco label."
And add to it so it now says "Atlantic's biggest hit single of the '50's
was "Mack The Knife" by Bobby Darin on the subsidiary Atco label #6147,
with the song "Was There A Call For Me" on the flip side." That does not
make the statement more accurate, just more detailed. In fact, I would
say that overall it would be worse to add extra information because it
takes some of the focus off of the main point that is trying to be made.
So, "more detailed" is not necessarily "more accurate," ad sometimes it
can cause the reader to miss the main point of the statement. The reader
may really like the song on the flip side and focus more on that while
not really absorbing the main point of the statement.
--
The bone of contention here is that your statement ""Atlantic's biggest
hit
single of the '50's was "Mack The Knife" by Bobby Darin" might have
"newbies"
looking for it--in vain--on the Atlantic listing posted the other day.
In that sense whilst true it can also be said to be misleading
Therefore my revised statement adding "on the subsidiary Atco label" certainly makes the sentence more accurate
On Sun, 11 May 2025 4:58:08 +0000, Roger wrote:
The bone of contention here is that your statement ""Atlantic's biggest
hit
single of the '50's was "Mack The Knife" by Bobby Darin" might have
"newbies"
looking for it--in vain--on the Atlantic listing posted the other day.
In that sense whilst true it can also be said to be misleading
Therefore my revised statement adding "on the subsidiary Atco label"
certainly makes the sentence more accurate
No it doesn't, it just makes it more detailed.
Stop being a record collector. Nobody in 2025 is gonna look for "The
Record." They would go listen to it on Youtube. And even if by some
miracle they go to look for "The Record" where would they go? There are hardly any record stores anymore, and other than Shively who else has a record store where records are filed by label?
Even if they somehow wanted the record if they walked into Shively's
store they won't be looking through the shelves for the record. They're
gonna ask Chuck of Val for a copy of "Mack The Knife" by Bobby Darin,
and they will get them one. Knowing the actual label is irrelevant to
finding a copy.
--
On Sun, 11 May 2025 15:06:27 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On Sun, 11 May 2025 4:58:08 +0000, Roger wrote:
The bone of contention here is that your statement ""Atlantic's biggest
hit
single of the '50's was "Mack The Knife" by Bobby Darin" might have
"newbies"
looking for it--in vain--on the Atlantic listing posted the other day.
In that sense whilst true it can also be said to be misleading
Therefore my revised statement adding "on the subsidiary Atco label"
certainly makes the sentence more accurate
No it doesn't, it just makes it more detailed.
More detailed, more accurate and more precise
Continuing my favorites label-by-label......today CHESS in Chicago
What is the full meaning of accurate?
free from error or defect
On May 11, 2025 at 10:31:00 AM CDT, "Bruce" <Bruce> wrote:
What is the full meaning of accurate?
free from error or defect
The former.
--md
On Mon, 12 May 2025 2:07:51 +0000, Mark wrote:
On May 11, 2025 at 10:31:00 AM CDT, "Bruce" <Bruce> wrote:
What is the full meaning of accurate?
free from error or defect
The former.
--md
Then you must be with me on this. Adding more details does not make a statement more accurate as long as the original statement is free from
error.
On Mon, 12 May 2025 4:35:11 +0000, Bruce wrote:---------
On Mon, 12 May 2025 2:07:51 +0000, Mark wrote:
On May 11, 2025 at 10:31:00 AM CDT, "Bruce" <Bruce> wrote:
What is the full meaning of accurate?
free from error or defect
The former.
--md
Then you must be with me on this. Adding more details does not make a
statement more accurate as long as the original statement is free from
error.
Jesus,are you really like this in real life?
For the last time,your exact words were "Atlantic's biggest hit single
of the 50's was "Mack The Knife" by Bobby Darin".
Correct and accurate. I never said otherwise
I added "Atlantic's biggest hit single of the '50's was "Mack The Knife"
by Bobby Darin on the subsidiary Atco label" which again is completely correct (but even more so since it adds a piece of very pertinent
information i.e the Atco reference).
All of which makes it even more accurate
Jesus,are you really like this in real life?
For the last time,your exact words were "Atlantic's biggest hit single-----------
of the 50's was "Mack The Knife" by Bobby Darin".
Correct and accurate. I never said otherwise
I added "Atlantic's biggest hit single of the '50's was "Mack The Knife"
by Bobby Darin on the subsidiary Atco label" which again is completely correct (but even more so since it adds a piece of very pertinent information i.e the Atco reference).
All of which makes it even more accurate
On 5/12/2025 6:20 AM, Roger wrote:
On Mon, 12 May 2025 4:35:11 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On Mon, 12 May 2025 2:07:51 +0000, Mark wrote:
On May 11, 2025 at 10:31:00 AM CDT, "Bruce" <Bruce> wrote:
What is the full meaning of accurate?
free from error or defect
The former.
--md
Then you must be with me on this. Adding more details does not make a
statement more accurate as long as the original statement is free from
error.
Jesus,are you really like this in real life?
For the last time,your exact words were "Atlantic's biggest hit single
of the 50's was "Mack The Knife" by Bobby Darin".
Correct and accurate. I never said otherwise
I added "Atlantic's biggest hit single of the '50's was "Mack The Knife"
by Bobby Darin on the subsidiary Atco label" which again is completely
correct (but even more so since it adds a piece of very pertinent
information i.e the Atco reference).
All of which makes it even more accurate
Jesus,are you really like this in real life?---------
He is, but in real time, not stretched out over the time it takes to
type and post and go on with your life. IOW the argument is over much
faster and he doesn't seem like a dog with a bone as he does in writing. ------------
For the last time,your exact words were "Atlantic's biggest hitsingle
of the 50's was "Mack The Knife" by Bobby Darin".
Correct and accurate. I never said otherwise
I added "Atlantic's biggest hit single of the '50's was "Mack TheKnife"
by Bobby Darin on the subsidiary Atco label" which again iscompletely
correct (but even more so since it adds a piece of very pertinent information i.e the Atco reference).
All of which makes it even more accurate-----------
I agree with you. The original statement is correct and accurate but
also misleading, since it could lead a layperson to assume that Bobby
Darin's records had labels that said "Atlantic."
By the way:---------------
My statement:
"Atlantic's biggest hit single of the '50's was "Mack The Knife" by
Bobby Darin"
Why are you two assuming that I am talking about the USA here?
"Mack The Knife" was a hit in many countries, and was on the Atlantic
label in a lot more countries than it was the Atco label.
Side note, the recording features Doc Severinsen on trumpet.
--
Side note, the recording features Doc Severinsen on trumpet.
On Mon, 12 May 2025 2:07:51 +0000, Mark wrote:
On May 11, 2025 at 10:31:00 AM CDT, "Bruce" <Bruce> wrote:
What is the full meaning of accurate?
free from error or defect
The former.
--md
Then you must be with me on this. Adding more details does not make a statement more accurate as long as the original statement is free from
error.
-----------------
As a kid, I bought 2 Bobby Darin records ("Dream Lover" and "You Must
Have Been A Beautiful Baby"). I don't think I had any idea that ATCO
had anything to do with Atlantic. I'm sure there are still many
instances where I do not know that label A is a division of label B, especially when it's a small division.
By the way:
My statement:
"Atlantic's biggest hit single of the '50's was "Mack The Knife" by
Bobby Darin"
Why are you two assuming that I am talking about the USA here?
"Mack The Knife" was a hit in many countries, and was on the Atlantic
label in a lot more countries than it was the Atco label.
Side note, the recording features Doc Severinsen on trumpet.
On 5/12/2025 8:30 AM, DianeE wrote:
-----------------
As a kid, I bought 2 Bobby Darin records ("Dream Lover" and "You Must
Have Been A Beautiful Baby"). I don't think I had any idea that ATCO
had anything to do with Atlantic. I'm sure there are still many
instances where I do not know that label A is a division of label B,
especially when it's a small division.
Speaking of....
This came on on Sirius-XM Thursday, and I wondered, where was I ? I
don't remember this at all. I'm guessing it didn't chart or didn't chart
very high, or maybe it was popular on the east coast or midwest.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8xxe75RWuc
On 5/12/2025 8:30 AM, DianeE wrote:
-----------------
As a kid, I bought 2 Bobby Darin records ("Dream Lover" and "You Must
Have Been A Beautiful Baby"). I don't think I had any idea that ATCO
had anything to do with Atlantic. I'm sure there are still many
instances where I do not know that label A is a division of label B,
especially when it's a small division.
Speaking of....
This came on on Sirius-XM Thursday, and I wondered, where was I ? I
don't remember this at all. I'm guessing it didn't chart or didn't chart
very high, or maybe it was popular on the east coast or midwest.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8xxe75RWuc
On Mon, 12 May 2025 15:51:34 +0000, Steve Mc wrote:
On 5/12/2025 8:30 AM, DianeE wrote:
-----------------
As a kid, I bought 2 Bobby Darin records ("Dream Lover" and "You Must
Have Been A Beautiful Baby"). I don't think I had any idea that ATCO
had anything to do with Atlantic. I'm sure there are still many
instances where I do not know that label A is a division of label B,
especially when it's a small division.
Speaking of....
This came on on Sirius-XM Thursday, and I wondered, where was I ? I
don't remember this at all. I'm guessing it didn't chart or didn't chart
very high, or maybe it was popular on the east coast or midwest.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8xxe75RWuc
It reached #24 in the spring of 1962.
--
On 5/12/2025 8:59 AM, Bruce wrote:
On Mon, 12 May 2025 15:51:34 +0000, Steve Mc wrote:
On 5/12/2025 8:30 AM, DianeE wrote:
-----------------
As a kid, I bought 2 Bobby Darin records ("Dream Lover" and "You Must
Have Been A Beautiful Baby"). I don't think I had any idea that ATCO >>>> had anything to do with Atlantic. I'm sure there are still many
instances where I do not know that label A is a division of label B,
especially when it's a small division.
Speaking of....
This came on on Sirius-XM Thursday, and I wondered, where was I ? I
don't remember this at all. I'm guessing it didn't chart or didn't chart >>> very high, or maybe it was popular on the east coast or midwest.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8xxe75RWuc
It reached #24 in the spring of 1962.
--
I guess I was too busy trying to figure out what I could say to girls at
the time.
On Mon, 12 May 2025 15:51:34 +0000, Steve Mc wrote:----------
On 5/12/2025 8:30 AM, DianeE wrote:
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As a kid, I bought 2 Bobby Darin records ("Dream Lover" and "You Must
Have Been A Beautiful Baby"). I don't think I had any idea that ATCO
had anything to do with Atlantic. I'm sure there are still many
instances where I do not know that label A is a division of label B,
especially when it's a small division.
Speaking of....
This came on on Sirius-XM Thursday, and I wondered, where was I ? I
don't remember this at all. I'm guessing it didn't chart or didn't chart
very high, or maybe it was popular on the east coast or midwest.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8xxe75RWuc
It reached #24 in the spring of 1962.
--
On 5/12/2025 2:38 PM, Steve Mc wrote:
On 5/12/2025 8:59 AM, Bruce wrote:
On Mon, 12 May 2025 15:51:34 +0000, Steve Mc wrote:
On 5/12/2025 8:30 AM, DianeE wrote:
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As a kid, I bought 2 Bobby Darin records ("Dream Lover" and "You Must >>>>> Have Been A Beautiful Baby"). I don't think I had any idea that ATCO >>>>> had anything to do with Atlantic. I'm sure there are still many
instances where I do not know that label A is a division of label B, >>>>> especially when it's a small division.
Speaking of....
This came on on Sirius-XM Thursday, and I wondered, where was I ? I
don't remember this at all. I'm guessing it didn't chart or didn't
chart
very high, or maybe it was popular on the east coast or midwest.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8xxe75RWuc
It reached #24 in the spring of 1962.
--
I guess I was too busy trying to figure out what I could say to girls
at the time.
"Hello, girls!"
On 5/12/2025 11:59 AM, Bruce wrote:
On Mon, 12 May 2025 15:51:34 +0000, Steve Mc wrote:----------
On 5/12/2025 8:30 AM, DianeE wrote:
-----------------
As a kid, I bought 2 Bobby Darin records ("Dream Lover" and "You Must
Have Been A Beautiful Baby"). I don't think I had any idea that ATCO >>>> had anything to do with Atlantic. I'm sure there are still many
instances where I do not know that label A is a division of label B,
especially when it's a small division.
Speaking of....
This came on on Sirius-XM Thursday, and I wondered, where was I ? I
don't remember this at all. I'm guessing it didn't chart or didn't chart >>> very high, or maybe it was popular on the east coast or midwest.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8xxe75RWuc
It reached #24 in the spring of 1962.
--
Well, I never heard it in NYC. I hope it was because they were ashamed
to play it.
On Mon, 12 May 2025 20:41:52 +0000, DianeE wrote:-------
On 5/12/2025 11:59 AM, Bruce wrote:
On Mon, 12 May 2025 15:51:34 +0000, Steve Mc wrote:----------
On 5/12/2025 8:30 AM, DianeE wrote:
-----------------
As a kid, I bought 2 Bobby Darin records ("Dream Lover" and "You Must >>>>> Have Been A Beautiful Baby"). I don't think I had any idea that ATCO >>>>> had anything to do with Atlantic. I'm sure there are still many
instances where I do not know that label A is a division of label B, >>>>> especially when it's a small division.
Speaking of....
This came on on Sirius-XM Thursday, and I wondered, where was I ? I
don't remember this at all. I'm guessing it didn't chart or didn't
chart
very high, or maybe it was popular on the east coast or midwest.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8xxe75RWuc
It reached #24 in the spring of 1962.
--
Well, I never heard it in NYC. I hope it was because they were ashamed
to play it.
Your opinion is irrelevant here because you don't even like the song by
Ray Charles.
Let's see what it did in New York.
WABC never played it, and no other NY stations have surveys available in
the spring of 1962. MGM had switched away from Top 40 by then and WMCA surveys start in August of 1962.
On 5/12/2025 6:28 PM, Bruce wrote:
On Mon, 12 May 2025 20:41:52 +0000, DianeE wrote:-------
On 5/12/2025 11:59 AM, Bruce wrote:
On Mon, 12 May 2025 15:51:34 +0000, Steve Mc wrote:----------
On 5/12/2025 8:30 AM, DianeE wrote:
-----------------
As a kid, I bought 2 Bobby Darin records ("Dream Lover" and "You Must >>>>>> Have Been A Beautiful Baby"). I don't think I had any idea that ATCO >>>>>> had anything to do with Atlantic. I'm sure there are still many
instances where I do not know that label A is a division of label B, >>>>>> especially when it's a small division.
Speaking of....
This came on on Sirius-XM Thursday, and I wondered, where was I ? I
don't remember this at all. I'm guessing it didn't chart or didn't
chart
very high, or maybe it was popular on the east coast or midwest.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8xxe75RWuc
It reached #24 in the spring of 1962.
--
Well, I never heard it in NYC. I hope it was because they were ashamed >>> to play it.
Your opinion is irrelevant here because you don't even like the song by
Ray Charles.
Let's see what it did in New York.
WABC never played it, and no other NY stations have surveys available in
the spring of 1962. MGM had switched away from Top 40 by then and WMCA
surveys start in August of 1962.
"WABC never played it"--that's enough for me. I don't see what my
opinion of the song has to do with the accuracy of my memory. I
remember hearing plenty of songs I didn't like.
On Tue, 13 May 2025 0:42:40 +0000, DianeE wrote:
On 5/12/2025 6:28 PM, Bruce wrote:
On Mon, 12 May 2025 20:41:52 +0000, DianeE wrote:-------
On 5/12/2025 11:59 AM, Bruce wrote:
On Mon, 12 May 2025 15:51:34 +0000, Steve Mc wrote:----------
On 5/12/2025 8:30 AM, DianeE wrote:
-----------------
As a kid, I bought 2 Bobby Darin records ("Dream Lover" and "You Must >>>>>>> Have Been A Beautiful Baby"). I don't think I had any idea that ATCO >>>>>>> had anything to do with Atlantic. I'm sure there are still many >>>>>>> instances where I do not know that label A is a division of label B, >>>>>>> especially when it's a small division.
Speaking of....
This came on on Sirius-XM Thursday, and I wondered, where was I ? I >>>>>> don't remember this at all. I'm guessing it didn't chart or didn't >>>>>> chart
very high, or maybe it was popular on the east coast or midwest.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8xxe75RWuc
It reached #24 in the spring of 1962.
--
Well, I never heard it in NYC. I hope it was because they were ashamed >>>> to play it.
Your opinion is irrelevant here because you don't even like the song by
Ray Charles.
Let's see what it did in New York.
WABC never played it, and no other NY stations have surveys available in >>> the spring of 1962. MGM had switched away from Top 40 by then and WMCA
surveys start in August of 1962.
"WABC never played it"--that's enough for me. I don't see what my
opinion of the song has to do with the accuracy of my memory. I
remember hearing plenty of songs I didn't like.
Your opinion of the song has nothing to do with your memory. I'm saying
since you don't like the song by ANYBODY, that your opinion of each
version means nothing. Pretty much everyone else in this group thinks
that the Ray Charles version is one of the great records of all time.
You don't even like it, so why would we care what you think of any of
the other versions?
Here is how I rank the versions I know:
1 - Ray Charles - 10
2 - Uros Peric Perry - 7 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aw2Rbg4Q8Sk
3 - Kenny Brawner - 6 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsD96iEjn5E
4 - Jerry Lee Lewis - 6
5 - Etta James - 6
6 - Usher at The White House - 6
7 - Brenda Lee - 5
8 - Tony Sheridan and the Beat Brothers - 5
9 - Elvis - 5
10 - Bobby Darin - 4
11- - Rare Earth - 4
12 - John Mayall & Bluesbreakers with Eric Clapton - 3
On Tue, 13 May 2025 3:20:26 +0000, Bruce wrote:
Here is how I rank the versions I know:
1 - Ray Charles - 10
2 - Uros Peric Perry - 7 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aw2Rbg4Q8Sk
3 - Kenny Brawner - 6 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsD96iEjn5E
4 - Jerry Lee Lewis - 6
5 - Etta James - 6
6 - Usher at The White House - 6
7 - Brenda Lee - 5
8 - Tony Sheridan and the Beat Brothers - 5
9 - Elvis - 5
10 - Bobby Darin - 4
11- - Rare Earth - 4
12 - John Mayall & Bluesbreakers with Eric Clapton - 3
Here's I rank "What'd I Say"
1. Ray Charles
2. Ray Charles
3. Ray Charles
4. Ray Charles
5. Ray Charles
6. Ray Charles
7. Ray Charles
8. Ray Charles
9. Ray Charles
10. Ray Charles
