• Very OT - USA no longer has any true friends

    From RWC@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 15 18:02:39 2025
    I asked Copilot

    how might nations best negotiate with Trump considering his
    prediliction for bullying to achieve his ends

    Negotiating with someone who employs a forceful or domineering style,
    like Trump, often requires a strategic approach. Nations might
    consider these tactics:

    1. **Project Strength**: Trump respects strength and decisiveness.
    Nations could present clear, firm positions while avoiding unnecessary confrontation.

    2. **Appeal to Interests**: Highlighting mutual benefits and framing
    agreements as "wins" for both sides could align with his preference
    for deal-making.

    3. **Leverage Relationships**: Building personal rapport can be
    effective, as Trump values individual connections and loyalty.

    4. **Stay Prepared**: Anticipating his negotiation style and being
    ready to counter high-pressure tactics can help maintain balance.

    5. **Control the Narrative**: Trump often focuses on public
    perception. Nations might use media and public statements to shape the narrative in their favor.

    Diplomacy is a delicate art, especially with strong personalities.

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  • From Roger@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 16 07:02:04 2025
    The USA will ALWAYS have at least one true friend who remembers the friendliness.
    kindness and hospitality of the populace there towards him when he
    frequently visited there and lived there for a period too

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Dean on Sun Mar 16 16:03:45 2025
    On Sun, 16 Mar 2025 7:20:52 +0000, Dean wrote:

    The Apricot Antichrist is kicking the asses of America's allies and
    kissing the asses of its enemies. The vast majority of Americans


    If it was really a "vast majority" he wouldn't be president again.

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  • From RWC@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 16 18:13:52 2025
    On Sun, 16 Mar 2025 07:02:04 +0000, mariabus@blueyonder.co.uk (Roger)
    wrote:

    The USA will ALWAYS have at least one true friend who remembers the >friendliness.
    kindness and hospitality of the populace there towards him when he
    frequently visited there and lived there for a period too

    This isn't about you, Roger Ford, but rather the UK and other nations
    as a whole. There remains the unsettling possibility that Putin could physically (nuke, carpet missile or cause that big wave) and
    politically (by establishing a pro-Kremlin puppet government in
    London) HARM THE UK without facing repercussions from the USA.

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  • From RWC@21:1/5 to Bruce on Sun Mar 16 18:27:57 2025
    On Sun, 16 Mar 2025 16:03:45 +0000, savoybg@aol.com (Bruce) wrote:

    On Sun, 16 Mar 2025 7:20:52 +0000, Dean wrote:

    The Apricot Antichrist is kicking the asses of America's allies and
    kissing the asses of its enemies. The vast majority of Americans


    If it was really a "vast majority" he wouldn't be president again.

    If there was an election today, going by recent polls, Trump would
    not be elected.

    (Bruce, I strongly suspect that, if you took the trouble to vote, you
    voted for Trump in the last three elections)

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  • From Roger@21:1/5 to RWC on Mon Mar 17 10:01:37 2025
    On Sun, 16 Mar 2025 22:13:52 +0000, RWC wrote:

    On Sun, 16 Mar 2025 07:02:04 +0000, mariabus@blueyonder.co.uk (Roger)
    wrote:

    The USA will ALWAYS have at least one true friend who remembers the >>friendliness.
    kindness and hospitality of the populace there towards him when he >>frequently visited there and lived there for a period too

    This isn't about you, Roger Ford, but rather the UK and other nations
    as a whole.

    Sigh! Once more Geoff baulks at even the slightest attempt at gentle
    levity being introduced into the discourse

    There remains the unsettling possibility that Putin could
    physically (nuke, carpet missile or cause that big wave) and
    politically (by establishing a pro-Kremlin puppet government in
    London) HARM THE UK without facing repercussions from the USA.

    But Britain is a nuclear power (albeit a smaller one) too. If Putin
    purposely nuked a UK city he would almost certainly lose one of his own
    cities in retaliation.

    And of course he knows this.

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  • From RWC@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 17 18:08:30 2025
    On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 10:01:37 +0000, mariabus@blueyonder.co.uk (Roger)
    wrote:

    On Sun, 16 Mar 2025 22:13:52 +0000, RWC wrote:

    On Sun, 16 Mar 2025 07:02:04 +0000, mariabus@blueyonder.co.uk (Roger)
    wrote:

    The USA will ALWAYS have at least one true friend who remembers the >>>friendliness.
    kindness and hospitality of the populace there towards him when he >>>frequently visited there and lived there for a period too

    This isn't about you, Roger Ford, but rather the UK and other nations
    as a whole.

    Sigh! Once more Geoff baulks at even the slightest attempt at gentle
    levity being introduced into the discourse

    Once more? Anyway, such levity, even if it existed and was not an
    afterthought, is not appropriate. I suppose you, Roger, would have
    brought some gentle levity to Kristallnacht in 1938, if you were
    around at the time :-)

    There remains the unsettling possibility that Putin could
    physically (nuke, carpet missile or cause that big wave) and
    politically (by establishing a pro-Kremlin puppet government in
    London) HARM THE UK without facing repercussions from the USA.

    But Britain is a nuclear power (albeit a smaller one) too. If Putin
    purposely nuked a UK city he would almost certainly lose one of his own >cities in retaliation.

    There are several reasons why the UK might choose not to retaliate
    with a nuclear strike, even in the face of such a catastrophic
    provocation:

    Avoiding Escalation: A nuclear response could lead to a full-scale
    nuclear war, potentially involving other nations and resulting in
    global devastation. The UK might prioritize de-escalation to prevent
    further loss of life.

    International Pressure: Allies and international organizations might
    urge restraint, advocating for diplomatic or conventional military
    responses instead. The UK might consider the broader geopolitical
    consequences of a nuclear retaliation.

    Moral and Ethical Considerations: The UK might weigh the moral
    implications of targeting civilian populations in retaliation, even if provoked. Such a decision could have long-term repercussions on its
    global standing and values.

    Dependence on NATO and the USA: The UK is a key member of NATO, and
    any nuclear response might require consultation with allies,
    particularly the USA. The UK might rely on collective defense measures
    rather than acting unilaterally.

    Alternative Strategies: The UK could opt for severe economic
    sanctions, cyber warfare, or targeted conventional military strikes as
    a means of response, avoiding the irreversible consequences of nuclear
    warfare.

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