Don't remember ever knowing this one. A mixed race and mixed gender
group on Aladdin from 1959.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfeIrRA_ZW8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1H3FZ-3mhOo

They both sound more like 1955 to me.

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On Wed, 1 Jan 2025 23:52:14 +0000, Bruce wrote:

Don't remember ever knowing this one. A mixed race and mixed gender
group on Aladdin from 1959.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfeIrRA_ZW8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1H3FZ-3mhOo

They both sound more like 1955 to me.

The Shades - Dear Lori/One Touch Of Heaven - Aladdin 3453

Both sides appear on the 1968 "Sweet & Greasy" r&b vocal group
collection on Imperial from 1968 from which I got my first hearing of
these songs.

The original issue certainly seems to be Aladdin 3453 which was a
definite April 1959 single release. I've never seen an original copy

Like pretty well every scarce 50's r&b vocal group single it was booted
in the early 70's---but for some reason on a RED Imperial label 45 with
catalog #5358.

The REAL legitimate Imperial 5358 singles release was in fact a 1955
reissue of Archibald's great earlier "Stack-A-Lee".

Certainly as Bruce rightly says the record sounds more like 1955 than
1959 so was it actually recorded back then or thereabouts?

Which is,I think,where we came in................

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On Thu, 2 Jan 2025 07:40:07 +0000, mariabus@blueyonder.co.uk (Roger)
wrote:

On Wed, 1 Jan 2025 23:52:14 +0000, Bruce wrote:

Don't remember ever knowing this one. A mixed race and mixed gender
group on Aladdin from 1959.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfeIrRA_ZW8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1H3FZ-3mhOo

They both sound more like 1955 to me.

The Shades - Dear Lori/One Touch Of Heaven - Aladdin 3453

Both sides appear on the 1968 "Sweet & Greasy" r&b vocal group
collection on Imperial from 1968 from which I got my first hearing of
these songs.

1960s "Legendary Masters" series LP discography (with tracks) [Imperial/Liberty]

https://www.wirz.de/music/implib.htm

"Sweet 'N Greasy" is Rhythm 'N' Blues, Vol. 2 in this series https://www.wirz.de/music/imperial/grafik/lbl83328b4.jpg
(the second area that can be read {after clicking on it}
is an attempted singles discography for the Robins)

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On Thu, 2 Jan 2025 7:40:07 +0000, Roger wrote:

On Wed, 1 Jan 2025 23:52:14 +0000, Bruce wrote:

Don't remember ever knowing this one. A mixed race and mixed gender
group on Aladdin from 1959.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfeIrRA_ZW8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1H3FZ-3mhOo

They both sound more like 1955 to me.

The Shades - Dear Lori/One Touch Of Heaven - Aladdin 3453

Both sides appear on the 1968 "Sweet & Greasy" r&b vocal group
collection on Imperial from 1968 from which I got my first hearing of
these songs.

The original issue certainly seems to be Aladdin 3453 which was a
definite April 1959 single release. I've never seen an original copy

Like pretty well every scarce 50's r&b vocal group single it was booted
in the early 70's---but for some reason on a RED Imperial label 45 with catalog #5358.

That's how I discovered it. I am currently listing boots for sale and
that red Imperial was in there.

The REAL legitimate Imperial 5358 singles release was in fact a 1955
reissue of Archibald's great earlier "Stack-A-Lee".

Certainly as Bruce rightly says the record sounds more like 1955 than
1959 so was it actually recorded back then or thereabouts?

Which is,I think,where we came in................

Doesn't seem to be an older recording. Here's more that I found out:

Nothing unusual about their story, other that they were from Seattle, 4
guys & one lady. Only one record on Aladdin recorded in 1959. Several
members later were also associated with Ron Holden.

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On Fri, 3 Jan 2025 03:52:50 +0000, soulexpress@gmail.com (Dean) wrote:

On Thu, 2 Jan 2025 7:40:07 +0000, Roger wrote:

Both sides appear on the 1968 "Sweet & Greasy" r&b vocal group
collection on Imperial from 1968 from which I got my first hearing of
these songs.

So that's why the Shades sounded familiar to me! I have that album (and
the one that preceded it).

The story behind the eight Imperial/Liberty "Legendary Masters" LPs
- the brainchild of a major record collector who was also a successful
musician (lead vocalist with Canned Heat) https://sundayblues.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/liberty.pdf
for golden age R&B fans, a wonderful article by Ray Templeton

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On Fri, 3 Jan 2025 03:52:50 +0000, soulexpress@gmail.com (Dean) wrote:

On Thu, 2 Jan 2025 7:40:07 +0000, Roger wrote:

Both sides appear on the 1968 "Sweet & Greasy" r&b vocal group
collection on Imperial from 1968 from which I got my first hearing of
these songs.

So that's why the Shades sounded familiar to me! I have that album

Rhythm 'N' Blues Vol. 2
Sweet 'N Greasy {records from c.1949-1957}

"primarily unissued performances from the Aladdin and Imperial
catalogs" but they are "equivalent, both musically and vocally, to
those selections that were released"

Shades - Dear Lori
Shades - One Touch Of Heaven
Pelicans - Miss Lucy
Pelicans - Down In Mexico
Sha-Weeze - You Made Me Love You
Sha-Weeze - Feeling Sad
Savoys - Hopin' For Your Return #4

Jewels - No Shoulder To Cry On
Fidelitones - Is It Too Late
Crystals - I Love My Baby
Crystals - I Do Believe
Robins - Around About Midnight
Avalons - I Miss You
Avalons - Love Me

(and the one that preceded it).

Rhythm 'N' Blues Vol. 1
End Of An Era {records from 1950-1956}

https://www.wirz.de/music/imperial/grafik/94003g14.jpg
click on to enlarge for some interesting reading,

the above link leads on to: https://www.wirz.de/music/imperial/grafik/94003g24.jpg
again, click on to enlarge for much revealing comment on early R&B
vocal groups and the R&B music industry - not easy to read (small and
a bit blurry) but it *can* be read

Sha-Weeze - No One To Love Me
Jewels - Keep Your Feet On The Floor
Dukes - Teardrop Eyes
Sharp Tones - Made To Love
Mellow Drops - I Want Your Love
Bees - Darling Please
Kidds (Pelicans) - Are You Forgetting Me

Spiders - You Played The Part
Barons - My Secret
Pelicans - Chimes
Hawks - He's The Fat Man
Jewels - Please Return
Five Keys - Red Sails In The Sunset
Jivers (Centars) - Ray Pearl

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On Fri, 03 Jan 2025 07:27:42 -0500, RWC <geoff@opbox.com> wrote:

Rhythm 'N' Blues Vol. 2
Sweet 'N Greasy {records from c.1949-1959}

"primarily unissued performances from the Aladdin and Imperial
catalogs" but they are "equivalent, both musically and vocally, to
those selections that were released"

Playlist (14 little known but mostly fine R&B vocal group recordings):
I have tried to select the best sounding YT copy for each recording https://www.youtube.com/watch_videos?video_ids=-DHwBE0LNY0,C0rvJVJnFbc,NiHQM1my_cE,4n4F80P17RI,Tiu2NblWK-A,Wp2SdWuMDDc,TYewoAXRqRM,_1gYQNCKng0,wSBq5hhMiZ8,1WeNqL_flPA,0Ab6hwzZ1fM,-rbHnow4oME,GlviKNnGevw,-ezaAxBgDyM,

SIDE 1

Shades - Dear Lori [Aladdin 3453] - Apr 1959 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DHwBE0LNY0

this YT post includes a detailed biography

Shades - One Touch Of Heaven [Aladdin 3453] - Apr 1959 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0rvJVJnFbc

Pelicans/Kidds - Miss Lucy [Post X2010] - 1955 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiHQM1my_cE

Pelicans/Kidds - Down In Mexico [Post X2010] - 1955 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4n4F80P17RI

Sha-Weez - You Made Me Love You

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tiu2NblWK-A

Sha-Weez - Feeling Sad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wp2SdWuMDDc

Savoys - Hoping For Your Return

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYewoAXRqRM

SIDE 2

Jewels - No Shoulder To Cry On

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1gYQNCKng0

Fidelitones - Is It Too Late

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSBq5hhMiZ8

Crystals - I Love My Baby [Aladdin 3355] - Mar 1957 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WeNqL_flPA

Crystals - I Do Believe [Aladdin 3355] - Mar 1957 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ab6hwzZ1fM

Robins - Around About Midnight [Score 4010] - 1949 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rbHnow4oME

Avalons - I Miss You

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlviKNnGevw

Avalons - Love Me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ezaAxBgDyM


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