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20 FAVE CHRISTMAS RECORDS
FROM 1940 - 1963
20 FAVE CHRISTMAS RECORDS
FROM 1940 - 1963
6. THE CHRISTMAS SONG – KING COLE TRIO (Capitol – 1946) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-RXKcc0sZs
One of the greatest Christmas songs ever written and sung to perfection
by the much missed Nat
14. WHAT ARE YOU DOING NEW YEARS EVE – THE ORIOLES (Jubilee – 1949) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tqw0-SKVsZ0
BUBBLING UNDER
21. SONNY BOY’S CHRISTMAS BLUES - SONNY BOY WILLIAMSON - 1951
On Sun, 22 Dec 2024 23:05:04 +0000, Roger wrote:
20 FAVE CHRISTMAS RECORDS
FROM 1940 - 1963
6. THE CHRISTMAS SONG – KING COLE TRIO (Capitol – 1946)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-RXKcc0sZs
I much prefer the alternate from back then without the sappy violins,
what about you? I don't think it's on Youtube.
One of the greatest Christmas songs ever written and sung to perfection
by the much missed Nat
Nat did not write it. It was Mel Torme.
by the much missed Nat"
14. WHAT ARE YOU DOING NEW YEARS EVE – THE ORIOLES (Jubilee – 1949)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tqw0-SKVsZ0
This is not a Christmas Record.
BUBBLING UNDER
21. SONNY BOY’S CHRISTMAS BLUES - SONNY BOY WILLIAMSON - 1951
Not only had I never heard this before, I never even heard of it before.
I wouldn't rank it as highly as you seem to here. It's a solid 7 and I
will put it on my 1951 list.
Mine would look very different. My favorite is a classic that you did
not even list.
--
On Mon, 23 Dec 2024 0:45:27 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On Sun, 22 Dec 2024 23:05:04 +0000, Roger wrote:
20 FAVE CHRISTMAS RECORDS
FROM 1940 - 1963
6. THE CHRISTMAS SONG – KING COLE TRIO (Capitol – 1946)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-RXKcc0sZs
I much prefer the alternate from back then without the sappy violins,
what about you? I don't think it's on Youtube.
In either form its one of the best Christmas classics ever. And you know
I can't subscribe to the rather silly "anti-violin" thing so it doesn't bother me unduly
On Mon, 23 Dec 2024 7:15:19 +0000, Roger wrote:
On Mon, 23 Dec 2024 0:45:27 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On Sun, 22 Dec 2024 23:05:04 +0000, Roger wrote:
20 FAVE CHRISTMAS RECORDS
FROM 1940 - 1963
6. THE CHRISTMAS SONG – KING COLE TRIO (Capitol – 1946)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-RXKcc0sZs
I much prefer the alternate from back then without the sappy violins,
what about you? I don't think it's on Youtube.
In either form its one of the best Christmas classics ever. And you know
I can't subscribe to the rather silly "anti-violin" thing so it doesn't
bother me unduly
It's not silly at all. Violins make records sound more pop and more
sappy. I like a more minimalist earthy sound. There's a reason that
violins were rarely used in R&B until the white people started buying
R&B in big numbers. Most 50s pop has violins. Most 50s R&B does not.
That should tell you something right there.
To this day violins are almost never used in Jazz either. Jazz was never going to be a mainstream genre that turned out big hits and the
musicians who played jazz did not want to sell out to mainstream trends.
It's fine if they don't bother you, but it's far from silly. Eddie
Cochran almost beat the hell of the producer who added Violins to his "Hallelujah I Lover Her So" and released it without telling him first.
Paul McCartney was livid when Spector added violins to "The Long And
Winding Road" and it got released that way without Paul's permission.
Both recordings are much better without the violins IMO.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8icLDXmW6Ls
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfVAJNqWw84
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14. WHAT ARE YOU DOING NEW YEARS EVE û THE ORIOLES (Jubilee û 1949)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tqw0-SKVsZ0
This is not a Christmas Record.
True but its "seasonal" right? So a little slack if you don't
mind.......
On Mon, 23 Dec 2024 07:15:19 +0000, mariabus@blueyonder.co.uk (Roger)
wrote:
14. WHAT ARE YOU DOING NEW YEARS EVE THE ORIOLES (Jubilee 1949)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tqw0-SKVsZ0
This is not a Christmas Record.
True but its "seasonal" right? So a little slack if you don't
mind.......
It's not even 'Seasonal', not one mention of winter weather.
Actually, if you listen to the lyrics, it's just a love or dating song
that happens to mention New Years Eve - it's not a celebration of the upcoming change of year.
(don't hold back from using the F word in any response :)
On Mon, 23 Dec 2024 07:15:19 +0000, mariabus@blueyonder.co.uk (Roger)
wrote:
14. WHAT ARE YOU DOING NEW YEARS EVE û THE ORIOLES (Jubilee û 1949)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tqw0-SKVsZ0
This is not a Christmas Record.
True but its "seasonal" right? So a little slack if you don't
mind.......
It's not even 'Seasonal', not one mention of winter weather.
Actually, if you listen to the lyrics, it's just a love or dating song
that happens to mention New Years Eve - it's not a celebration of the >upcoming change of year.
(don't hold back from using the F word in any response :)
On Mon, 23 Dec 2024 9:19:40 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On Mon, 23 Dec 2024 7:15:19 +0000, Roger wrote:
On Mon, 23 Dec 2024 0:45:27 +0000, Bruce wrote:
On Sun, 22 Dec 2024 23:05:04 +0000, Roger wrote:
20 FAVE CHRISTMAS RECORDS
FROM 1940 - 1963
6. THE CHRISTMAS SONG – KING COLE TRIO (Capitol – 1946)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-RXKcc0sZs
I much prefer the alternate from back then without the sappy violins,
what about you? I don't think it's on Youtube.
In either form its one of the best Christmas classics ever. And you know >>> I can't subscribe to the rather silly "anti-violin" thing so it doesn't
bother me unduly
It's not silly at all. Violins make records sound more pop and more
sappy. I like a more minimalist earthy sound. There's a reason that
violins were rarely used in R&B until the white people started buying
R&B in big numbers. Most 50s pop has violins. Most 50s R&B does not.
That should tell you something right there.
To this day violins are almost never used in Jazz either. Jazz was never
going to be a mainstream genre that turned out big hits and the
musicians who played jazz did not want to sell out to mainstream trends.
It's fine if they don't bother you, but it's far from silly. Eddie
Cochran almost beat the hell of the producer who added Violins to his
"Hallelujah I Lover Her So" and released it without telling him first.
Paul McCartney was livid when Spector added violins to "The Long And
Winding Road" and it got released that way without Paul's permission.
Both recordings are much better without the violins IMO.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8icLDXmW6Ls
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfVAJNqWw84
We've had this argument so many times in the past.Violins per se don't
bother me so I never understand the fuss some make about them. They
actually ADD to some recordings (as below)--and as with the example
nearly always used "There Goes My Baby".
I don't like Cochran's "Hallelujah I LOve Her So" in either version and
"The Long And Winding Road" is one of the Beatles tracks I really do
like and I'm in the camp that thinks Spector definitely enhanced the
song
When is New Year's Eve? December 31, one of the 12 Days of Christmas.
The next day is the first day of the New Year aka New Year's Day, also
one of the 12 days of Christmas.
Christmastide traditionally lasts from Christmas Day to January 6, the >Epiphany and the 12th night when the first ball of the Mardi Gras
season begins.
You don't have to believe me. It can be referenced on the internent.
On Mon, 23 Dec 2024 09:00:40 -0600, Jim Colegrove
<coolg@thecoolgroove.com> wrote:
When is New Year's Eve? December 31, one of the 12 Days of Christmas.
The next day is the first day of the New Year aka New Year's Day, also
one of the 12 days of Christmas.
Christmastide traditionally lasts from Christmas Day to January 6, the >>Epiphany and the 12th night when the first ball of the Mardi Gras
season begins.
You don't have to believe me. It can be referenced on the internent.
Okay, let's ask Copilot: >---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
is the "12 Days of Christmas" a religious notion?; for some folk,
especially workers, Christmas does not go past Christmas Day or Boxing
Day
Yes, the "12 Days of Christmas" is a religious notion. It refers to
the period between December 25th (Christmas Day) and January 5th (the
eve of Epiphany). In many Christian traditions, this time is known as >Christmastide and is a festive period celebrating the birth of Jesus
Christ and leading up to the arrival of the Magi (Three Wise Men) on >Epiphany.
For some, especially those who follow the liturgical calendar, these
twelve days are filled with various religious observances and
celebrations. However, for many people, particularly those who work,
the Christmas holiday often ends after Christmas Day or Boxing Day,
*and they return to their regular routines* {my emphasis}. >--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
So, it's all in the mind of the beholder (within reason).
The rest are all 8's
13 - Merry Christmas Baby - Charles Brown
(Am I the only one around here who thinks this is an excellent+ record? several around here actually think Chuck Berry's version is better.
Shocking. This was the black community's equivalent of "White Christmas"
by Crosby.
Paul McCartney was livid when Spector added violins to "The Long And
Winding Road" and it got released that way without Paul's permission.
Both recordings are much better without the violins IMO.
On Dec 23, 2024 at 3:19:40 AM CST, "Bruce" <Bruce> wrote:
Paul McCartney was livid when Spector added violins to "The Long And
Winding Road" and it got released that way without Paul's permission.
Both recordings are much better without the violins IMO.
I agree that "Road" is better without the sappy violins. Burt there are plenty
of fine Beatles songs that make good, non-sappy use of violins.
"Yesterday,"
"Eleanor Rigby," "Here Comes rhw Sun," "Across the Universe," to name a
few.
No instrument is sappy per se. The sappiness is simply a matter of what
and
how it's being played. Look at all the great country song that use
violins
(fiddle is just another name for violin).
--md
On Dec 23, 2024 at 3:19:40 AM CST, "Bruce" <Bruce> wrote:
Paul McCartney was livid when Spector added violins to "The Long And
Winding Road" and it got released that way without Paul's permission.
Both recordings are much better without the violins IMO.
I agree that "Road" is better without the sappy violins. Burt there are plenty
of fine Beatles songs that make good, non-sappy use of violins.
"Yesterday,"
"Eleanor Rigby," "Here Comes rhw Sun," "Across the Universe," to name a
few.
No instrument is sappy per se. The sappiness is simply a matter of what
and
how it's being played. Look at all the great country song that use
violins
(fiddle is just another name for violin).
--md
On Dec 23, 2024 at 1:00:00 AM CST, "Bruce" <Bruce> wrote:
The rest are all 8's
13 - Merry Christmas Baby - Charles Brown
(Am I the only one around here who thinks this is an excellent+ record?
several around here actually think Chuck Berry's version is better.
Shocking. This was the black community's equivalent of "White Christmas"
by Crosby.
I'm with you on this one. But how come it only gets an 8?
On Dec 23, 2024 at 1:00:00 AM CST, "Bruce" <Bruce> wrote:
The rest are all 8's
13 - Merry Christmas Baby - Charles Brown
(Am I the only one around here who thinks this is an excellent+ record?
several around here actually think Chuck Berry's version is better.
Shocking. This was the black community's equivalent of "White Christmas"
by Crosby.
I'm with you on this one. But how come it only gets an 8?
--md
On 12/24/2024 2:50 PM, Mark wrote:
On Dec 23, 2024 at 1:00:00 AM CST, "Bruce" <Bruce> wrote:
The rest are all 8's
13 - Merry Christmas Baby - Charles Brown
(Am I the only one around here who thinks this is an excellent+ record?
several around here actually think Chuck Berry's version is better.
Shocking. This was the black community's equivalent of "White Christmas" >>> by Crosby.
I'm with you on this one. But how come it only gets an 8?
-----------------
I'm 100% with Chuck Berry. Much bluesier instrumentation, and unlike
most Chuck Berry records, sung with much more emotion.
On Wed, 25 Dec 2024 5:10:22 +0000, DianeE wrote:
On 12/24/2024 2:50 PM, Mark wrote:
On Dec 23, 2024 at 1:00:00 AM CST, "Bruce" <Bruce> wrote:
The rest are all 8's
13 - Merry Christmas Baby - Charles Brown
(Am I the only one around here who thinks this is an excellent+ record? >>>> several around here actually think Chuck Berry's version is better.
Shocking. This was the black community's equivalent of "White
Christmas"
by Crosby.
I'm with you on this one. But how come it only gets an 8?
-----------------
I'm 100% with Chuck Berry. Much bluesier instrumentation, and unlike
most Chuck Berry records, sung with much more emotion.
Charles Brown sings all his stuff with way more emotion that Chuck Berry
ever
did. It's not even close. Charles Brown was a singer. Chuck Berry was a musician and lyricist who also sang. He's just passable as a ballad
singer.
On 12/25/2024 2:15 AM, Bruce wrote:
On Wed, 25 Dec 2024 5:10:22 +0000, DianeE wrote:
On 12/24/2024 2:50 PM, Mark wrote:
On Dec 23, 2024 at 1:00:00 AM CST, "Bruce" <Bruce> wrote:
The rest are all 8's
13 - Merry Christmas Baby - Charles Brown
(Am I the only one around here who thinks this is an excellent+ record? >>>>> several around here actually think Chuck Berry's version is better.
Shocking. This was the black community's equivalent of "White
Christmas"
by Crosby.
I'm with you on this one. But how come it only gets an 8?
-----------------
I'm 100% with Chuck Berry. Much bluesier instrumentation, and unlike
most Chuck Berry records, sung with much more emotion.
Charles Brown sings all his stuff with way more emotion that Chuck Berry
ever
did. It's not even close. Charles Brown was a singer. Chuck Berry was a
musician and lyricist who also sang. He's just passable as a ballad
singer.
---------------
What part of "unlike most Chuck Berry records" don't you understand?
He was a monstrous human being, no doubt. I read his biography and
wished I hadn't. But his version of "Merry Christmas Baby" is an
absolute killer whereas the original is IMO dull by comparison.
On Wed, 25 Dec 2024 11:34:47 +0000, DianeE wrote:-------
On 12/25/2024 2:15 AM, Bruce wrote:
On Wed, 25 Dec 2024 5:10:22 +0000, DianeE wrote:
On 12/24/2024 2:50 PM, Mark wrote:
On Dec 23, 2024 at 1:00:00 AM CST, "Bruce" <Bruce> wrote:
The rest are all 8's
13 - Merry Christmas Baby - Charles Brown
(Am I the only one around here who thinks this is an excellent+
record?
several around here actually think Chuck Berry's version is better. >>>>>> Shocking. This was the black community's equivalent of "White
Christmas"
by Crosby.
I'm with you on this one. But how come it only gets an 8?
-----------------
I'm 100% with Chuck Berry. Much bluesier instrumentation, and unlike >>>> most Chuck Berry records, sung with much more emotion.
Charles Brown sings all his stuff with way more emotion that Chuck Berry >>> ever
did. It's not even close. Charles Brown was a singer. Chuck Berry was a
musician and lyricist who also sang. He's just passable as a ballad
singer.
---------------
What part of "unlike most Chuck Berry records" don't you understand?
He was a monstrous human being, no doubt. I read his biography and
wished I hadn't. But his version of "Merry Christmas Baby" is an
absolute killer whereas the original is IMO dull by comparison.
That's your whiteness coming out.
On Dec 23, 2024 at 3:19:40 AM CST, "Bruce" <Bruce> wrote:
Paul McCartney was livid when Spector added violins to "The Long And
Winding Road" and it got released that way without Paul's permission.
Both recordings are much better without the violins IMO.
I agree that "Road" is better without the sappy violins. Burt there are
plenty
of fine Beatles songs that make good, non-sappy use of violins.
"Yesterday,"
"Eleanor Rigby," "Here Comes rhw Sun," "Across the Universe," to name a
few.
No instrument is sappy per se. The sappiness is simply a matter of what
and
how it's being played. Look at all the great country song that use
violins
(fiddle is just another name for violin).
--md
Mark, can you name ANY records that feature a violin prominently but
really rock?
"Hurricane" Bob Dylan
"You wear it Well" Rod Stewart
Never cared for Papa John Creech, yet there are some old hippies that
swore by Hot Tuna!!
On Thu, 26 Dec 2024 17:56:40 +0000, DCartrow wrote:
"Hurricane" Bob Dylan
"You wear it Well" Rod Stewart
Never cared for Papa John Creech, yet there are some old hippies that
swore by Hot Tuna!!
I don't agree that "Hurricane" is even good, let alone that it rocks.
"You Wear It Well" is a decent answer, but I'm looking for record from
the era that this group covers, and really record by black acts.
Here's one that I love that I think rocks:
https://youtu.be/McIxMlOXbS0?t=5
Anybody else? Is there any record that really rocks where violin(s) are prominent?
--
On 12/26/2024 8:48 AM, Bruce wrote:
Anybody else? Is there any record that really rocks where violin(s) are
prominent?
--
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sh7BZf7D5Bw
On Thu, 26 Dec 2024 17:56:40 +0000, DCartrow wrote:
"Hurricane" Bob Dylan
"You wear it Well" Rod Stewart
Never cared for Papa John Creech, yet there are some old hippies that
swore by Hot Tuna!!
I don't agree that "Hurricane" is even good, let alone that it rocks.
"You Wear It Well" is a decent answer, but I'm looking for record from
the era that this group covers, and really record by black acts.
Here's one that I love that I think rocks:
https://youtu.be/McIxMlOXbS0?t=5
--
On Dec 26, 2024 at 12:06:53 PM CST, "Bruce" <Bruce> wrote:
On Thu, 26 Dec 2024 17:56:40 +0000, DCartrow wrote:The Devil went down to Georgia is even better.
"Hurricane" Bob DylanI don't agree that "Hurricane" is even good, let alone that it rocks.
"You wear it Well" Rod Stewart
Never cared for Papa John Creech, yet there are some old hippies that
swore by Hot Tuna!!
"You Wear It Well" is a decent answer, but I'm looking for record from
the era that this group covers, and really record by black acts.
Here's one that I love that I think rocks:
https://youtu.be/McIxMlOXbS0?t=5
--
--md
Here is a good litmus test as far as I am concerned. Which version do
you prefer. The hit version with the overdubbed violins, or the actual >recording without the violins, where you can really hear the piano.
With violins - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GN-AA1-WnQ0
without violins - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VHroLyw7F0
With violins it's a 7 for me. Without violins it's a 9.
On Dec 26, 2024 at 12:06:53 PM CST, "Bruce" <Bruce> wrote:
On Thu, 26 Dec 2024 17:56:40 +0000, DCartrow wrote:
"Hurricane" Bob Dylan
"You wear it Well" Rod Stewart
Never cared for Papa John Creech, yet there are some old hippies that
swore by Hot Tuna!!
I don't agree that "Hurricane" is even good, let alone that it rocks.
"You Wear It Well" is a decent answer, but I'm looking for record from
the era that this group covers, and really record by black acts.
Here's one that I love that I think rocks:
https://youtu.be/McIxMlOXbS0?t=5
--
The Devil went down to Georgia is even better.
You don't have to be of any religion to celebrate Christmas and >Christmastide. I was raised in a Christian family and we celebrated
through the New Year. And yes we were a "working" middle class family.
I was never "religious" at all. I believe everyone I know celebrates
the holiday season through the New Year. I can assure you they are all >"working".
...