On Mon, 9 Dec 2024 0:34:37 +0000, Dean wrote:

The latest ROOTS ROCK RADIO is archived until December 22nd at the link below. Here's the playlist:

1. SMOKIE (Part 2), Bill Black’s Combo

Here's how "Smokie" sits on my fave instrumentals list

80.Torquay Fireballs – 1959
81.All Night Long Joe Houston - 1954
82.Rockin’ With Reed Jimmy Reed – 1956
83.Heavy Juice Tiny Bradshaw – 1953
84.Because They’re Young Duane Eddy - 1960
85.Theme From “A Summer Place” Percy Faith - 1959
86.Big Guitar Frank DeRosa & De-Men - 1957
87.Harlem Nocturne Viscounts - 1959
88.Smokie -Part 2 Bill Black’s Combo - 1959
89.Bayou Drive Clifton Chenier – 1959
90.Yep! Duane Eddy - 1959

5. DUST MY BROOM, Elmore James (1963 version)

It's good of course but IMO doesn't stand up to the "rated 10" 1951
Trumpet original

My 1951 faves list :-

1. Rocket 88 Jackie Brenston
2. Don’t You Know I Love You Clovers
3. Sixty Minute Man Dominoes
4. Dust My Broom Elmo James
5. Lovin’ Machine Wynonie Harris

8. OH BABY DOLL, Chuck Berry

Crime of the mid-20th century was that (for some unknown reason) Chuck's
"Oh Baby Doll" was passed over for UK release and never appeared on
45rpm here

10. LOVE ME, The Phantom

One of the most popular of the hundreds of rare r&r and rockabilly boots
that appeared in the early 70's

12. IT’S ALL IN THE GAME, Tommy Edwards

A favorite ballad by Tommy but I also still have a soft spot for his
original
1951 recording of the song too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wdk9NKHoTfc

15. DADDY COOL, The Rays

One side of one of my favorite double siders with "Silhouettes"

25. DOWN THE ROAD, Smiley Lewis

Much the better side of Smiley's original "Blue Monday"--which falls by
the wayside IMO compared to Fats' later immaculate version of the song

27. JAILHOUSE ROCK, Elvis Presley

My Elvis Top 5 for 1957

1. Jailhouse Rock Elvis Presley
2. All Shook Up Elvis Presley
3. Santa Claus Is Back In Town Elvis Presley
4. Got A Lot O’ Lovin’ To Do Elvis Presley
5. Baby I Don’t Care Elvis Presley

31. SEE YOU LATER, ALLIGATOR, Bill Haley & The Comets

Tho I like Bobby Charles' original better this still rates as one of
Haley's best cover versions ever up there with "Shake Rattle And Roll"
and of course "Rock Around The Clock"

34. BLUEBERRY HILL, Fats Domino

The very first version of "Blueberry Hill" from 1940 by Sammy Kaye & His Orchestra (vocal Tommy Ryan)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgL5_9LAg7c

39. OH WHAT A NITE FOR LOVE, Roy Tyson

Great to see someone else besides me likes this Roy Tyson number from
1963 that sits high on my favorites list for that year

42. COME TO ME, Marv Johnson

It charted when United Artists took over distribution but the earliest incarnation of "Come To Me" was as Tamla 101---the very first record
ever issued on the label

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QH2Gi2rU6nU

44. TONITE TONITE, The Mello-Kings

In 1959 a British company launched a b&w rock 'n'roll movie "Sweet Beat"
that like several other movies in the genre was "Grade Z" in all
areas-acting, production,songs and general quality.

But....in the case of "Sweet Beat" the UK production outfit seems to
have done some kind of deal with Al Silver of Herald-Ember records in
the USA since a whole bunch of his signed artists appear (lip synching)
in the movie---including Fred Parris and the Five (tho you only see
four!) Satins,Billy Myles,Lee Allen,Cindy Mann ....and The Mello Kings
(as seen below).

Apparently the movie was retitled "The Amorous Sex" for US consumption.
No, I don't know why either

Anyway here are the Mello-Kings as they appear in the movie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18ne0geuiQY

46. GEE WHIZ (Look At His Eyes), Carla Thomas

Here's where Carla sits in my fave femmes list for 1960

1. A Fool In Love Ike & Tina Turner
2. At Last Etta James
3. Will You Love Me Tomorrow Shirelles
4. Bye Bye Baby Mary Wells
5. I Just Want To Make Love To You Etta James
6. Tonight's The Night Shirelles
7. All In My Mind Maxine Brown
8. Angel Baby Rosie & Originals
9. A Good Man Irma Thomas
10. I Shot Mr. Lee Bobbettes (Atlantic version)
11. Gee Whiz Carla Thomas

http://wrtc.streamrewind.com/bookmarks/listen/422691/rock-roots-rock-radio

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On Mon, 9 Dec 2024 8:21:19 +0000, Roger wrote:

On Mon, 9 Dec 2024 0:34:37 +0000, Dean wrote:

The latest ROOTS ROCK RADIO is archived until December 22nd at the link
below. Here's the playlist:

86.Big Guitar Frank DeRosa & De-Men - 1957

Never heard of this. Both YT videos sound very crackly. Do you also like
this cover?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8gJb4i96nI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wdk9NKHoTfc

15. DADDY COOL, The Rays

One side of one of my favorite double siders with "Silhouettes"

Never though much of the hit side. It's corny as hell.

39. OH WHAT A NITE FOR LOVE, Roy Tyson

Great to see someone else besides me likes this Roy Tyson number from
1963 that sits high on my favorites list for that year,

First off, just because Dean played it on his radio show does not
necessarily mean that he likes it all that much. But more importantly,
is it a vocal group record?

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On Mon, 9 Dec 2024 16:19:26 +0000, Bruce wrote:

On Mon, 9 Dec 2024 8:21:19 +0000, Roger wrote:

On Mon, 9 Dec 2024 0:34:37 +0000, Dean wrote:

The latest ROOTS ROCK RADIO is archived until December 22nd at the link
below. Here's the playlist:

86.Big Guitar Frank DeRosa & De-Men - 1957

Never heard of this. Both YT videos sound very crackly. Do you also like
this cover?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8gJb4i96nI

We're getting somewhere on this "sound" on the YT clips now. These
things MUST play different for us. I hear both De Rosa clips okay the
Dot one is best don't hear any "crackling" in either (the other version
is on orig Ken label yes?)

15. DADDY COOL, The Rays

One side of one of my favorite double siders with "Silhouettes"

Never though much of the hit side. It's corny as hell.

I beg to differ I like the "Silhouettes" side a lot its not "corny" at
all

39. OH WHAT A NITE FOR LOVE, Roy Tyson

Great to see someone else besides me likes this Roy Tyson number from
1963 that sits high on my favorites list for that year,

First off, just because Dean played it on his radio show does not
necessarily mean that he likes it all that much. But more importantly,
is it a vocal group record?

I would assume that Dean would have some liking for such a near
obscurity to play it at all. On your second point its a Roy Tyson record
with vocal group backing

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On Mon, 9 Dec 2024 08:21:19 +0000, mariabus@blueyonder.co.uk (Roger)
wrote:

{Roger's} 1951 faves list :-

2. DonÆt You Know I Love You - The Clovers

This is utter crap compared to other releases from 1951,
such as (and this is just a small sample of 3 out of 100+):

The Swallows - Roll Roll Pretty Baby
Bill Haley And The Saddlemen - Rocket "88"
Savannah Churchill - (It's No) Sin

Yes, a subjective opinion, but likely agreed with by the vast majority
of American and British citizens aged 60+

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On Mon, 9 Dec 2024 16:44:11 +0000, Roger wrote:

On Mon, 9 Dec 2024 16:19:26 +0000, Bruce wrote:

On Mon, 9 Dec 2024 8:21:19 +0000, Roger wrote:

On Mon, 9 Dec 2024 0:34:37 +0000, Dean wrote:

The latest ROOTS ROCK RADIO is archived until December 22nd at the link >>>> below. Here's the playlist:

86.Big Guitar Frank DeRosa & De-Men - 1957

Never heard of this. Both YT videos sound very crackly. Do you also like
this cover?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8gJb4i96nI

We're getting somewhere on this "sound" on the YT clips now. These
things MUST play different for us. I hear both De Rosa clips okay the
Dot one is best don't hear any "crackling" in either (the other version
is on orig Ken label yes?)

15. DADDY COOL, The Rays

One side of one of my favorite double siders with "Silhouettes"

Never though much of the hit side. It's corny as hell.

I beg to differ I like the "Silhouettes" side a lot its not "corny" at
all

39. OH WHAT A NITE FOR LOVE, Roy Tyson

Great to see someone else besides me likes this Roy Tyson number from
1963 that sits high on my favorites list for that year,

First off, just because Dean played it on his radio show does not
necessarily mean that he likes it all that much. But more importantly,
is it a vocal group record?

I would assume that Dean would have some liking for such a near
obscurity to play it at all. On your second point its a Roy Tyson record
with vocal group backing

The Roy Tyson bubbled under on BB, so it's not really that close to
obscure. It was bigger nationally than "The Wind" by the Jesters. Tyson
was 11 years old at the time. So if the label had decided to list the
artist as Roy Tyson and the Rubies would it then magically be a vocal
group record?

Clearly it was a business decision to list the artist as Roy Tyson in an
effort to launch this 11 year old kid as the next child star ala Stevie
Wonder and others. Not very likely an 11 year old would be accepted as a
member of a vocal group.

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On Mon, 9 Dec 2024 17:07:56 +0000, RWC wrote:

On Mon, 9 Dec 2024 08:21:19 +0000, mariabus@blueyonder.co.uk (Roger)
wrote:

{Roger's} 1951 faves list :-

2. Don't You Know I Love You - The Clovers

This is utter crap compared to other releases from 1951.

Fuck off, it's the best record of the year. Go listen to your teen
favorites, pussy boy.

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On Mon, 9 Dec 2024 17:53:03 +0000, savoybg@aol.com (Bruce) wrote:

On Mon, 9 Dec 2024 17:07:56 +0000, RWC wrote:

On Mon, 9 Dec 2024 08:21:19 +0000, mariabus@blueyonder.co.uk (Roger)
wrote:

{Roger's} 1951 faves list :-

2. Don't You Know I Love You - The Clovers

This is utter crap compared to other releases from 1951.

Fuck off, it's the best record of the year. Go listen to your teen
favorites, pussy boy.

Frankly, Bruce, in the wider commmunity, you are just making a fool of
yourself with remarks like this.

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On Mon, 9 Dec 2024 18:24:00 +0000, RWC wrote:

On Mon, 9 Dec 2024 17:53:03 +0000, savoybg@aol.com (Bruce) wrote:

On Mon, 9 Dec 2024 17:07:56 +0000, RWC wrote:

On Mon, 9 Dec 2024 08:21:19 +0000, mariabus@blueyonder.co.uk (Roger)
wrote:

{Roger's} 1951 faves list :-

2. Don't You Know I Love You - The Clovers

This is utter crap compared to other releases from 1951.

Fuck off, it's the best record of the year. Go listen to your teen >>favorites, pussy boy.

Frankly, Bruce, in the wider commmunity, you are just making a fool of yourself with remarks like this.

What wider commmmmmunity?

We have at most about 20 readers in this group. Probably more like 12.

And even if millions of people saw this and did not like the record, I
would consider that an honor. WHY THE FUCK would I want everyday
assholes to approve of my taste? If they did I'd be very worried.

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By the way Geoff. The Clovers record finished at #13 in Roger's 1951
singles battle IN THIS GROUP.

Your millions of average asshole listeners out there have their heads up
their asses. AND they would hate lots of the garbage that you've
declared as favorites.

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On Mon, 9 Dec 2024 23:58:35 +0000, savoybg@aol.com (Bruce) wrote:

By the way Geoff. The Clovers record finished at #13 in Roger's 1951
singles battle IN THIS GROUP.

http://marcdashevsky.com/cgi-bin/battle.cgi?vote=rankings&rankyear=1951&who=

Your millions of average listeners out there ... would hate lots of the >garbage that you've declared as favorites.

Perhaps I'm in a state of denial, but I tend to doubt that, Bruce :)

'hate', 'garbage', 'utter crap of the first order' - you and Roger can
get quite intense and emotional in this forum, which I can relate to

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On Mon, 9 Dec 2024 08:21:19 +0000, mariabus@blueyonder.co.uk (Roger)
wrote:

My Elvis Top 5 for 1957

1. Jailhouse Rock Elvis Presley
2. All Shook Up Elvis Presley
3. Santa Claus Is Back In Town Elvis Presley
4. Got A Lot OÆ LovinÆ To Do Elvis Presley
5. Baby I DonÆt Care Elvis Presley

I suggest "Jailhouse Rock" has been over exposed and so is now
*relatively* unrewarding to listen to.

Geoff's Elvis Top 5 for 1957

All Shook Up
(Let Me Be Your) Teddy Bear
Blue Christmas
Is It So Strange
Treat Me Nice

Might Elvis fan Steve have an opinion?

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On Mon, 09 Dec 2024 21:15:37 -0500, RWC <geoff@opbox.com> wrote:

On Mon, 9 Dec 2024 23:58:35 +0000, savoybg@aol.com (Bruce) wrote:

By the way Geoff. The Clovers record finished at #13 in Roger's 1951 >>singles battle IN THIS GROUP.

http://marcdashevsky.com/cgi-bin/battle.cgi?vote=rankings&rankyear=1951&who=

Your millions of average listeners out there ... would hate lots of the >>garbage that you've declared as favorites.

Perhaps I'm in a state of denial, but I tend to doubt that, Bruce :)

'hate', 'garbage', 'utter crap of the first order' - you and Roger can
get quite intense and emotional in this forum, which I can relate to

Denial. That's a rive in Egypt. When you're in it you just get all
wet.

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On 12/9/2024 7:37 PM, RWC wrote:

On Mon, 9 Dec 2024 08:21:19 +0000, mariabus@blueyonder.co.uk (Roger)
wrote:

My Elvis Top 5 for 1957

1. Jailhouse Rock Elvis Presley

10.1

2. All Shook Up Elvis Presley

9

3. Santa Claus Is Back In Town Elvis Presley

10

4. Got A Lot O’ Lovin’ To Do Elvis Presley

9.8

5. Baby I Don’t Care Elvis Presley

9

I suggest "Jailhouse Rock" has been over exposed and so is now
*relatively* unrewarding to listen to.

Geoff's Elvis Top 5 for 1957

All Shook Up

9

(Let Me Be Your) Teddy Bear

8

Blue Christmas

8.3

Is It So Strange

8

Treat Me Nice

9

Might Elvis fan Steve have an opinion?

--
Steve Mc

DNA to SBC to respond

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On 12/8/2024 7:34 PM, Dean wrote:

The latest ROOTS ROCK RADIO is archived until December 22nd at the link below. Here's the playlist:

22. SINCERELY, Buster Brown

---------
Never heard this one before. Wish he'd tried a little harder on the
harmonica break. An interesting rendition. Glad you played it.

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On 12/8/2024 7:34 PM, Dean wrote:

The latest ROOTS ROCK RADIO is archived until December 22nd at the link below. Here's the playlist:

22. SINCERELY, Buster Brown

---------
Never heard this one before. Wish he'd tried a little harder on the
harmonica break. An interesting rendition. Glad you played it.

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On 12/10/2024 5:48 AM, Dean wrote:

On Tue, 10 Dec 2024 3:37:44 +0000, RWC wrote:

I suggest "Jailhouse Rock" has been over exposed and so is now
*relatively* unrewarding to listen to.

I respectfully disagree. I ranked "Jailhouse Rock" at #2 on my list of
1957 favorites, and at #2 on my list of Elvis favorites.

----------
I'm with you. I never get tired of "Jailhouse Rock."
------------

I would, however, proffer that opinion about "Love Me Tender," "In the Ghetto," and "Don't Cry Daddy."

-----------
Those last two are embarrassing. "Love Me Tender" is a big favorite of
mine, although Bruce doesn't like it. Might be a gender thing.

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On Tue, 10 Dec 2024 13:07:24 +0000, DianeE wrote:

On 12/10/2024 5:48 AM, Dean wrote:

On Tue, 10 Dec 2024 3:37:44 +0000, RWC wrote:

I suggest "Jailhouse Rock" has been over exposed and so is now
*relatively* unrewarding to listen to.

I respectfully disagree. I ranked "Jailhouse Rock" at #2 on my list of
1957 favorites, and at #2 on my list of Elvis favorites.

----------
I'm with you. I never get tired of "Jailhouse Rock." Top 5 on my 1957
list
------------

I too never tire of "Jailhouse Rock".

I would, however, proffer that opinion about "Love Me Tender," "In the
Ghetto," and "Don't Cry Daddy."

-----------
Those last two are embarrassing. "Love Me Tender" is a big favorite of
mine, although Bruce doesn't like it. Might be a gender thing.

I don't like "Love Me Tender" much either likewise with the much later glutinous "Don't Cry Daddy" .

I do however like several of his "later-than-this-newsgroup" singles
these being "Crying In The Chapel","Ain't That Loving You Baby","Tell Me Why","Guitar Man","In The Ghetto","Suspicious Minds","An American Trilogy","Burning Love","Always On My Mind" and "Moody Blue"

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On 12/10/2024 11:49 AM, Roger wrote:

On Tue, 10 Dec 2024 13:07:24 +0000, DianeE wrote:

On 12/10/2024 5:48 AM, Dean wrote:

On Tue, 10 Dec 2024 3:37:44 +0000, RWC wrote:

I suggest "Jailhouse Rock" has been over exposed and so is now
*relatively* unrewarding to listen to.

I respectfully disagree. I ranked "Jailhouse Rock" at #2 on my list of
1957 favorites, and at #2 on my list of Elvis favorites.

----------
I'm with you. I never get tired of "Jailhouse Rock." Top 5 on my 1957
list
------------

I too never tire of "Jailhouse Rock".

-------
Wait a minute: I didn't say it was "Top 5 on my 1957 list," mainly
because I don't *have* a 1957 (or any other year) list. Roger, did you
mean it was top 5 on *your* list?

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On Tue, 10 Dec 2024 16:49:00 +0000, Roger wrote:

On Tue, 10 Dec 2024 13:07:24 +0000, DianeE wrote:

On 12/10/2024 5:48 AM, Dean wrote:

On Tue, 10 Dec 2024 3:37:44 +0000, RWC wrote:

I suggest "Jailhouse Rock" has been over exposed and so is now
*relatively* unrewarding to listen to.

I respectfully disagree. I ranked "Jailhouse Rock" at #2 on my list of
1957 favorites, and at #2 on my list of Elvis favorites.

----------
I'm with you. I never get tired of "Jailhouse Rock." Top 5 on my 1957
list
------------

I too never tire of "Jailhouse Rock".

I would, however, proffer that opinion about "Love Me Tender," "In the
Ghetto," and "Don't Cry Daddy."

-----------
Those last two are embarrassing. "Love Me Tender" is a big favorite of
mine, although Bruce doesn't like it. Might be a gender thing.

I don't like "Love Me Tender" much either likewise with the much later glutinous "Don't Cry Daddy" .

I do however like several of his "later-than-this-newsgroup" singles
these being "Crying In The Chapel","Ain't That Loving You Baby","Tell Me Why","Guitar Man","In The Ghetto","Suspicious Minds","An American Trilogy","Burning Love","Always On My Mind" and "Moody Blue"

Like only about half of those and prefer this undubbed version of this
one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7R7402Buys

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On Tue, 10 Dec 2024 19:35:32 +0000, Bruce wrote:

On Tue, 10 Dec 2024 16:49:00 +0000, Roger wrote:

On Tue, 10 Dec 2024 13:07:24 +0000, DianeE wrote:

On 12/10/2024 5:48 AM, Dean wrote:

On Tue, 10 Dec 2024 3:37:44 +0000, RWC wrote:

I suggest "Jailhouse Rock" has been over exposed and so is now
*relatively* unrewarding to listen to.

I respectfully disagree. I ranked "Jailhouse Rock" at #2 on my list of >>>> 1957 favorites, and at #2 on my list of Elvis favorites.

----------
I'm with you. I never get tired of "Jailhouse Rock." Top 5 on my 1957
list
------------

I too never tire of "Jailhouse Rock".

I would, however, proffer that opinion about "Love Me Tender," "In the >>>> Ghetto," and "Don't Cry Daddy."

-----------
Those last two are embarrassing. "Love Me Tender" is a big favorite of
mine, although Bruce doesn't like it. Might be a gender thing.

I don't like "Love Me Tender" much either likewise with the much later
glutinous "Don't Cry Daddy" .

I do however like several of his "later-than-this-newsgroup" singles
these being "Crying In The Chapel","Ain't That Loving You Baby","Tell Me
Why","Guitar Man","In The Ghetto","Suspicious Minds","An American
Trilogy","Burning Love","Always On My Mind" and "Moody Blue"

Like only about half of those and prefer this undubbed version of this
one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7R7402Buys

Not for me I'm afraid. The released version has that tremendous stark atmosphere part of which is due to the chorus etc. Take that away and it
loses some of its utter starkness

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On 12/10/2024 5:07 AM, DianeE wrote:

On 12/10/2024 5:48 AM, Dean wrote:

On Tue, 10 Dec 2024 3:37:44 +0000, RWC wrote:

I suggest "Jailhouse Rock" has been over exposed and so is now
*relatively* unrewarding to listen to.

I respectfully disagree. I ranked "Jailhouse Rock" at #2 on my list of
1957 favorites, and at #2 on my list of Elvis favorites.

----------
I'm with you.  I never get tired of "Jailhouse Rock."
------------

I would, however, proffer that opinion about "Love Me Tender," "In the
Ghetto," and "Don't Cry Daddy."

-----------
Those last two are embarrassing.  "Love Me Tender" is a big favorite
of mine, although Bruce doesn't like it.  Might be a gender thing.

I also never liked In The Ghetto and Don't Cry Daddy. Love Me Tender is
OK, but I believe it could be a gender thing, probably being liked by
the ladies more than  the guys. If memory serves, LMT was Norm's most
hated Elvis song.

Re: Jailhouse Rock, as a 10.1, it's #8 on my favorite Elvis'.

--
Steve Mc

DNA to SBC to respond

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