• A new Elvis documentary

    From Bruce@21:1/5 to All on Mon Nov 11 19:26:55 2024
    Hi, this is Diane. (Bruce is napping.)
    On Thursday (11/13) a new documentary called "Return Of The King: The
    Fall And Rise Of Elvis Presley" will debut on Netflix. It focuses on
    his "1968 Comeback Special."
    I just might watch it. Nice break from politics.

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  • From Jim Colegrove@21:1/5 to Bruce on Mon Nov 11 13:52:26 2024
    On Mon, 11 Nov 2024 19:26:55 +0000, savoybg@aol.com (Bruce) wrote:

    Hi, this is Diane. (Bruce is napping.)
    On Thursday (11/13) a new documentary called "Return Of The King: The
    Fall And Rise Of Elvis Presley" will debut on Netflix. It focuses on
    his "1968 Comeback Special."
    I just might watch it. Nice break from politics.

    Listening to Wayne Newton's Greatest Hits would be a break from
    politics.

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  • From Roger@21:1/5 to Dean on Tue Nov 12 04:55:17 2024
    On Tue, 12 Nov 2024 3:21:20 +0000, Dean wrote:

    On Mon, 11 Nov 2024 19:52:26 +0000, Jim Colegrove wrote:

    Listening to Wayne Newton's Greatest Hits would be a break from
    politics.

    I'll take a colonoscopy over thinking about politics.

    I've had two of those.

    Laying there and watching the damn thing on the TV monitor thingy in
    vivid Cinemascope was fascinating---just like watching "Fantastic Voyage
    II"

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to Roger on Tue Nov 12 05:44:43 2024
    On Tue, 12 Nov 2024 4:55:17 +0000, Roger wrote:

    On Tue, 12 Nov 2024 3:21:20 +0000, Dean wrote:

    On Mon, 11 Nov 2024 19:52:26 +0000, Jim Colegrove wrote:

    Listening to Wayne Newton's Greatest Hits would be a break from
    politics.

    I'll take a colonoscopy over thinking about politics.

    I've had two of those.

    Laying there and watching the damn thing on the TV monitor thingy in
    vivid Cinemascope was fascinating---just like watching "Fantastic Voyage
    II"

    I've never had one, but here they put you out when they do it.

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  • From Roger@21:1/5 to Bruce on Tue Nov 12 06:01:39 2024
    On Tue, 12 Nov 2024 5:44:43 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    On Tue, 12 Nov 2024 4:55:17 +0000, Roger wrote:

    On Tue, 12 Nov 2024 3:21:20 +0000, Dean wrote:

    On Mon, 11 Nov 2024 19:52:26 +0000, Jim Colegrove wrote:

    Listening to Wayne Newton's Greatest Hits would be a break from
    politics.

    I'll take a colonoscopy over thinking about politics.

    I've had two of those.

    Laying there and watching the damn thing on the TV monitor thingy in
    vivid Cinemascope was fascinating---just like watching "Fantastic Voyage
    II"

    I've never had one, but here they put you out when they do it.

    Really? It wasn't the greatest experience I've ever had but it wasn't
    painful or anything---uncomfortable a little sometimes but thats all. I
    was fully conscious all the time

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  • From DianeE@21:1/5 to Bruce on Thu Nov 14 14:37:59 2024
    On 11/11/2024 2:26 PM, Bruce wrote:
    Hi, this is Diane.  (Bruce is napping.)
    On Thursday (11/13) a new documentary called "Return Of The King: The
    Fall And Rise Of Elvis Presley" will debut on Netflix.  It focuses on
    his "1968 Comeback Special."
    I just might watch it.  Nice break from politics.
    -----------
    I did watch it. It was produced by Priscilla Presley. She and Darlene
    Love are among the talking heads. Priscilla has had so much plastic
    surgery that she looks like Elsa Lanchester as the Bride Of
    Frankenstein. Darlene is wearing a wig and so much makeup that she
    looks like a drag queen. The male talking heads (I don't know when they
    were filmed; the one with the most interesting things to say is dead
    now) include Elvis's pal Jerry Schiller, Bruce Springsteen, Robbie
    Robertson, a musician named Billy Corgan, and weirdly, Conan O'Brien,
    who was in kindergarten when the Comeback Special aired.

    I found it mildly interesting, but I wouldn't recommend it, except to
    Roger because it includes 2 prolonged clips of his favorite Elvis song,
    "Do The Clam." This supports the main thesis of the film, which is that Colonel Parker didn't understand or care about the power and the glory
    of Elvis's singing voice. He just pushed him to be a movie star because
    that's where the money was. He didn't hang him out of a hotel window
    like they did to Jackie Wilson, but he and the studio lawyers did
    threaten to bankrupt him when he wanted out of his contract.

    The happy ending to this situation, according to the film, is that after
    the Comeback Special, Elvis, who hadn't done a live performance in seven
    years, did 361 of them in the 9 years he had left before he died.

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  • From Steve Mc@21:1/5 to DianeE on Thu Nov 14 12:09:32 2024
    On 11/14/2024 11:37 AM, DianeE wrote:
    On 11/11/2024 2:26 PM, Bruce wrote:
    Hi, this is Diane.  (Bruce is napping.)
    On Thursday (11/13) a new documentary called "Return Of The King: The
    Fall And Rise Of Elvis Presley" will debut on Netflix.  It focuses on
    his "1968 Comeback Special."
    I just might watch it.  Nice break from politics.
    -----------
    I did watch it.  It was produced by Priscilla Presley.  She and
    Darlene Love are among the talking heads.  Priscilla has had so much
    plastic surgery that she looks like Elsa Lanchester as the Bride Of Frankenstein.  Darlene is wearing a wig and so much makeup that she
    looks like a drag queen.  The male talking heads (I don't know when
    they were filmed; the one with the most interesting things to say is
    dead now) include Elvis's pal Jerry Schiller, Bruce Springsteen,
    Robbie Robertson, a musician named Billy Corgan, and weirdly, Conan
    O'Brien, who was in kindergarten when the Comeback Special aired.

    I found it mildly interesting, but I wouldn't recommend it, except to
    Roger because it includes 2 prolonged clips of his favorite Elvis
    song, "Do The Clam."  This supports the main thesis of the film, which
    is that Colonel Parker didn't understand or care about the power and
    the glory of Elvis's singing voice.  He just pushed him to be a movie
    star because that's where the money was.  He didn't hang him out of a
    hotel window like they did to Jackie Wilson, but he and the studio
    lawyers did threaten to bankrupt him when he wanted out of his contract.

    The happy ending to this situation, according to the film, is that
    after the Comeback Special, Elvis, who hadn't done a live performance
    in seven years, did 361 of them in the 9 years he had left before he
    died.

    I on other  hand would recommend it. Probably because it really made out
    as the villain, as you mentioned, that fucker Col. Parker, who, as we
    all know, stifled that incredible talented voice.

    And yes, I used to think that Priscilla was very good looking, but that
    job she had really wrecked her beauty.

    And of course, Do The Clam, was there to show the nadir of those
    ridiculous movies. I did like how they showed what Bruce mentioned the
    other day, his amazing performance of Shake , Rattle & Roll ( unless it
    was Ready Teddy, which I know they did show). Also that live sequence of
    Trying To Get To You, which if memory serves, is one of Diane's
    favorites. And they also played his 1956 Trying To Get to You over the
    closing credits, which is often my favorite by him.

    I also did enjoy the various narrators comments, and how he affected
    them, and the masses.

    --
    Steve Mc

    DNA to SBC to respond

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  • From Roger@21:1/5 to Steve Mc on Thu Nov 14 21:25:17 2024
    On Thu, 14 Nov 2024 20:09:32 +0000, Steve Mc wrote:

    On 11/14/2024 11:37 AM, DianeE wrote:
    On 11/11/2024 2:26 PM, Bruce wrote:
    Hi, this is Diane.  (Bruce is napping.)
    On Thursday (11/13) a new documentary called "Return Of The King: The
    Fall And Rise Of Elvis Presley" will debut on Netflix.  It focuses on
    his "1968 Comeback Special."
    I just might watch it.  Nice break from politics.
    -----------
    I did watch it.  It was produced by Priscilla Presley.  She and
    Darlene Love are among the talking heads.  Priscilla has had so much
    plastic surgery that she looks like Elsa Lanchester as the Bride Of
    Frankenstein.  Darlene is wearing a wig and so much makeup that she
    looks like a drag queen.  The male talking heads (I don't know when
    they were filmed; the one with the most interesting things to say is
    dead now) include Elvis's pal Jerry Schiller, Bruce Springsteen,
    Robbie Robertson, a musician named Billy Corgan, and weirdly, Conan
    O'Brien, who was in kindergarten when the Comeback Special aired.

    I found it mildly interesting, but I wouldn't recommend it, except to
    Roger because it includes 2 prolonged clips of his favorite Elvis
    song, "Do The Clam."

    LOL!!

    Yeah but it's not up (or do I mean "down"?) to the standard of a real
    Elvis classic like "Fort Lauderdale Chamber Of Commerce"

    Oh yeah.rock me Daddy-O!!!

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  • From DianeE@21:1/5 to Steve Mc on Thu Nov 14 20:26:34 2024
    On 11/14/2024 3:09 PM, Steve Mc wrote:
    I did like how they showed what Bruce mentioned the
    other day, his amazing performance of Shake , Rattle & Roll ( unless it
    was Ready Teddy, which I know they did show).
    ----------
    They showed a little bit of SR&R, a little bit of Blue Suede Shoes, a
    little more of Ready Teddy.
    -----------------

    Also that live sequence of
    Trying To Get To You, which if memory serves, is one of Diane's
    favorites. And they also played his 1956 Trying To Get to You over the closing credits, which is often my favorite by him.
    ------------
    Definitely one of Diane's favorites!
    -------------

    I also did enjoy the various narrators comments, and how he affected
    them, and the masses.
    ----------
    A little vignette I liked: They showed Mario Lanza singing (in Italian)
    "Come Back To Sorrento," then played a little bit of Elvis's
    "Surrender." I never realized that that was what inspired that record.
    Always thought it was Dean Martin (whom Elvis said he admired). Elvis
    just soaked up influences from every genre he heard--pop, blues,
    country, R&B, gospel, and even opera.

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  • From Bruce@21:1/5 to DianeE on Fri Nov 15 01:40:11 2024
    On Fri, 15 Nov 2024 1:26:34 +0000, DianeE wrote:
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    A little vignette I liked: They showed Mario Lanza singing (in Italian)
    "Come Back To Sorrento," then played a little bit of Elvis's
    "Surrender." I never realized that that was what inspired that record. Always thought it was Dean Martin (whom Elvis said he admired). Elvis
    just soaked up influences from every genre he heard--pop, blues,
    country, R&B, gospel, and even opera.

    From Wikipedia:

    "Surrender" is a number 1 song recorded by Elvis Presley and published
    by Elvis Presley Music in 1961. It is an adaptation by Doc Pomus and
    Mort Shuman of the music of a 1902 Neapolitan ballad by Giambattista and Ernesto de Curtis entitled "Torna a Surriento" ("Come Back to
    Sorrento").

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  • From DianeE@21:1/5 to Bruce on Thu Nov 14 21:43:47 2024
    On 11/14/2024 8:40 PM, Bruce wrote:
    On Fri, 15 Nov 2024 1:26:34 +0000, DianeE wrote:
    ----------
    A little vignette I liked: They showed Mario Lanza singing (in Italian)
    "Come Back To Sorrento," then played a little bit of Elvis's
    "Surrender."  I never realized that that was what inspired that record.
    Always thought it was Dean Martin (whom Elvis said he admired).  Elvis
    just soaked up influences from every genre he heard--pop, blues,
    country, R&B, gospel, and even opera.

    From Wikipedia:

    "Surrender" is a number 1 song recorded by Elvis Presley and published
    by Elvis Presley Music in 1961. It is an adaptation by Doc Pomus and
    Mort Shuman of the music of a 1902 Neapolitan ballad by Giambattista and Ernesto de Curtis entitled "Torna a Surriento" ("Come Back to
    Sorrento").
    -----------
    To clarify, I knew where the melody came from, but I didn't know it was
    Mario Lanza rather than Dean Martin who inspired Elvis's interpretation
    of the song. The documentary explicitly stated that Elvis admired Mario
    Lanza.

    (I might also add that "Come Back To Sorrento" is my favorite Dean
    Martin record. There's also a rather stunning youtube video of Luciano Pavarotti and Meat Loaf singing it.)

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  • From Jim Colegrove@21:1/5 to DianeE on Thu Nov 14 22:54:47 2024
    On Thu, 14 Nov 2024 14:37:59 -0500, DianeE <DianeE@NoSpam.net> wrote:

    On 11/11/2024 2:26 PM, Bruce wrote:
    Hi, this is Diane.á (Bruce is napping.)
    On Thursday (11/13) a new documentary called "Return Of The King: The
    Fall And Rise Of Elvis Presley" will debut on Netflix.á It focuses on
    his "1968 Comeback Special."
    I just might watch it.á Nice break from politics.
    -----------
    I did watch it. It was produced by Priscilla Presley. She and Darlene
    Love are among the talking heads. Priscilla has had so much plastic
    surgery that she looks like Elsa Lanchester as the Bride Of
    Frankenstein. Darlene is wearing a wig and so much makeup that she
    looks like a drag queen. The male talking heads (I don't know when they
    were filmed; the one with the most interesting things to say is dead
    now) include Elvis's pal Jerry Schiller, Bruce Springsteen, Robbie
    Robertson, a musician named Billy Corgan, and weirdly, Conan O'Brien,
    who was in kindergarten when the Comeback Special aired.

    I found it mildly interesting, but I wouldn't recommend it, except to
    Roger because it includes 2 prolonged clips of his favorite Elvis song,
    "Do The Clam." This supports the main thesis of the film, which is that >Colonel Parker didn't understand or care about the power and the glory
    of Elvis's singing voice. He just pushed him to be a movie star because >that's where the money was. He didn't hang him out of a hotel window
    like they did to Jackie Wilson, but he and the studio lawyers did
    threaten to bankrupt him when he wanted out of his contract.

    The happy ending to this situation, according to the film, is that after
    the Comeback Special, Elvis, who hadn't done a live performance in seven >years, did 361 of them in the 9 years he had left before he died.

    When I first drove into town in Fort Worth back in June 1974, the
    first thing that my friend and I saw was the marquee at the convention
    center. It was none other than Elvis doing a couple of nights there.
    What a cool welcome to town 50 years ago.

    I'd givethe filmt a similar review as Diane.

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