• New topic: which Bruckner boxes should be avoided?

    From Pluted Pup@21:1/5 to Roland van Gaalen on Thu Jul 4 10:57:17 2024
    On Thu, 04 Jul 2024 10:30:18 -0700, Roland van Gaalen wrote:

    n the last year or so, I bought six Bruckner boxes (each containing recordings on CD of all or most of Bruckner's symphonies).

    I already had six or seven! (Plus a number of individual recordings.)

    Frankly, I think they're all great, with perhaps one exception (*).

    So, as far as buying Bruckner boxes is concerned, the question is not
    which are good ('good' being the default; I mean: almost all Bruckner
    boxes are 'good' in some sense), or how to rank them (the good ones all
    have their particular merits; ranking them makes no sense) but which are
    bad!

    So: which Bruckner boxes should be avoided, do you think?

    (*) At this stage, I have my doubts about one particular conductor, now
    dead, who, although famous and 'competent' or even 'perfectionist', is notorious for his dull studio recordings and may be vastly overrated.

    Well, which one is maybe the bad one? I might have it,
    but slips my mind. I get irritated with particular
    recordings, such as Bruckner Fourths missing those
    special moments, but the boxes I have all have something to it
    elsewhere.

    Are you hinting about Barenboim's studio DG Chicago
    box? I don't have it but have the individual 0
    symphony CD in order to get Helgoland.

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  • From Pluted Pup@21:1/5 to Pluted Pup on Thu Jul 4 11:10:58 2024
    On Thu, 04 Jul 2024 10:57:17 -0700, Pluted Pup wrote:

    On Thu, 04 Jul 2024 10:30:18 -0700, Roland van Gaalen wrote:

    n the last year or so, I bought six Bruckner boxes (each containing recordings on CD of all or most of Bruckner's symphonies).

    I already had six or seven! (Plus a number of individual recordings.)

    Frankly, I think they're all great, with perhaps one exception (*).

    So, as far as buying Bruckner boxes is concerned, the question is not
    which are good ('good' being the default; I mean: almost all Bruckner
    boxes are 'good' in some sense), or how to rank them (the good ones all have their particular merits; ranking them makes no sense) but which are bad!

    So: which Bruckner boxes should be avoided, do you think?

    (*) At this stage, I have my doubts about one particular conductor, now dead, who, although famous and 'competent' or even 'perfectionist', is notorious for his dull studio recordings and may be vastly overrated.

    Well, which one is maybe the bad one? I might have it,
    but slips my mind. I get irritated with particular
    recordings, such as Bruckner Fourths missing those
    special moments, but the boxes I have all have something to it
    elsewhere.

    Are you hinting about Barenboim's studio DG Chicago
    box? I don't have it but have the individual 0
    symphony CD in order to get Helgoland.

    Same thing with his Teldec/warner set, I have just the CD
    that has Helgoland.

    Now I see that you said "dead", but Barenboim lives.
    I don't keep track of those things because I'm
    just a collector and recordings live forever!

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  • From Pluted Pup@21:1/5 to Raymond Hall on Fri Jul 5 10:17:12 2024
    On Thu, 04 Jul 2024 11:13:39 -0700, Raymond Hall wrote:

    On 5/07/2024 3:57 am, Pluted Pup wrote:
    On Thu, 04 Jul 2024 10:30:18 -0700, Roland van Gaalen wrote:

    n the last year or so, I bought six Bruckner boxes (each containing recordings on CD of all or most of Bruckner's symphonies).

    I already had six or seven! (Plus a number of individual recordings.)

    Frankly, I think they're all great, with perhaps one exception (*).

    So, as far as buying Bruckner boxes is concerned, the question is not which are good ('good' being the default; I mean: almost all Bruckner boxes are 'good' in some sense), or how to rank them (the good ones all have their particular merits; ranking them makes no sense) but which are bad!

    So: which Bruckner boxes should be avoided, do you think?

    (*) At this stage, I have my doubts about one particular conductor, now dead, who, although famous and 'competent' or even 'perfectionist', is notorious for his dull studio recordings and may be vastly overrated.

    Well, which one is maybe the bad one? I might have it,
    but slips my mind. I get irritated with particular
    recordings, such as Bruckner Fourths missing those
    special moments, but the boxes I have all have something to it
    elsewhere.

    Are you hinting about Barenboim's studio DG Chicago
    box? I don't have it but have the individual 0
    symphony CD in order to get Helgoland.

    Strange, but I have always believed, that DB's Chicago Bruckner was the
    one to get. If only because of the Chicago brass. Virtually impossible
    to get of in physical CDs. Maybe download??

    I never heard it, I was just making a guess.
    I'd rather hear the name of the possibly bad
    cycle of the original poster rather than making guesses.


    Even so, Jochum/Dresden is great for the brass, whilst Wand/Cologne is
    maybe my favourite cycle for overall unity.

    Ray Hall, Taree

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