• Re: Ilhan Omar - Woman Terrified Of White Men Leaves Africa For Minneso

    From Owen Hartnett@21:1/5 to DeepBlue on Thu May 8 15:47:16 2025
    On May 8, 2025 at 3:11:44 AM EDT, "DeepBlue" <dan.koren@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wed, 7 May 2025 8:41:59 +0000, Zionazi wrote:

    https://babylonbee.com/news/woman-terrified-of-white-men-leaves-africa-for-minnesota

    How can one expect any logic from this creature?

    Cheers!

    In case you were not aware, the babylon bee is a politically satirical site, much like the Onion but from the opposite political viewpoint.

    -Owen

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  • From Owen Hartnett@21:1/5 to Zionazi on Fri May 9 15:51:58 2025
    On May 9, 2025 at 12:52:44 AM EDT, "Zionazi" <marcs12212@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Thu, 8 May 2025 15:47:16 +0000, Owen Hartnett wrote:

    On May 8, 2025 at 3:11:44 AM EDT, "DeepBlue" <dan.koren@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Wed, 7 May 2025 8:41:59 +0000, Zionazi wrote:

    https://babylonbee.com/news/woman-terrified-of-white-men-leaves-africa-for-minnesota

    How can one expect any logic from this creature?

    Cheers!

    In case you were not aware, the babylon bee is a politically satirical
    site,
    much like the Onion but from the opposite political viewpoint.

    Ofc Dan was not aware - like Owen, how long have you interacted with
    Dan? Don't you think you're expecting a little bit too much from this narcissistic creature?



    How long?? Probably started sometime in the mid 1980s, prior to this group in rec.music.classical, when it was a respectable place. Don't know if Dan was there before me or not, but by this time, it doesn't matter. Never met him personally though, we both have occupations in technical fields, we both like good sushi, and many of his piano performance recommendations are quite good.

    It does not fucking matter what Putin wants you idiot, or if he it goes against his interests or whatever, what matters is what the Ukrainians
    want - have you ever fucking considered their interests? No, you idiot
    always evaded my question when I asked this. They - the majority of the Ukrainians - don't want to live under Putin, otherwise they would not be dying every fucking die fighting the russians -- are you fucking blind
    or what?

    Like JFK didn't like Russian missiles in Cuba, neither did Putin like NATO missiles in Ukraine. All the NATO talk leveraged (and gave Putin an excuse
    for) Russia's invasion. Of course it matters what Putin wants, he invaded, didn't he? Don't you realize that Biden administration rhetoric made Putin
    feel backed into a corner? I'm not excusing Putin's actions, they're cruel and merciless, but the NATO rhetoric started that ball in play.

    Not that I think the invasion was good for anybody. I think all war is stupid.
    My politicians hate your politicians so we'll send our 20 year olds to kill and die just to spite you until your citizens can't stand any more bloodshed. Hope Trump ends it soon.

    -Owen

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  • From Owen Hartnett@21:1/5 to DeepBlue on Fri May 9 15:20:42 2025
    On May 8, 2025 at 5:27:23 PM EDT, "DeepBlue" <dan.koren@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Thu, 8 May 2025 15:47:16 +0000, Owen Hartnett wrote:

    On May 8, 2025 at 3:11:44 AM EDT, "DeepBlue" <dan.koren@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Wed, 7 May 2025 8:41:59 +0000, Zionazi wrote:

    https://babylonbee.com/news/woman-terrified-of-white-men-leaves-africa-for-minnesota

    How can one expect any logic from this creature?

    Cheers!

    In case you were not aware, the babylon bee is
    a politically satirical site, much like the
    Onion but from the opposite political viewpoint.

    I am well aware. At the same time, are you aware
    satire does not imply what is said is untrue?

    Cheers!

    I am well aware. Satire often targets truths that are hidden with lies, such
    as Joe Biden was sharp as a tack and video showing otherwise was "deep fakes."

    -Owen

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  • From Owen Hartnett@21:1/5 to Zionazi on Sat May 10 20:57:50 2025
    On May 10, 2025 at 5:31:03 AM EDT, "Zionazi" <marcs12212@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Fri, 9 May 2025 15:51:58 +0000, Owen Hartnett wrote:

    On May 9, 2025 at 12:52:44 AM EDT, "Zionazi" <marcs12212@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Thu, 8 May 2025 15:47:16 +0000, Owen Hartnett wrote:

    On May 8, 2025 at 3:11:44 AM EDT, "DeepBlue" <dan.koren@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Wed, 7 May 2025 8:41:59 +0000, Zionazi wrote:

    https://babylonbee.com/news/woman-terrified-of-white-men-leaves-africa-for-minnesota

    How can one expect any logic from this creature?

    Cheers!

    In case you were not aware, the babylon bee is a politically satirical >>>> site,
    much like the Onion but from the opposite political viewpoint.

    Ofc Dan was not aware - like Owen, how long have you interacted with
    Dan? Don't you think you're expecting a little bit too much from this
    narcissistic creature?



    How long?? Probably started sometime in the mid 1980s, prior to this
    group in
    rec.music.classical, when it was a respectable place. Don't know if Dan
    was
    there before me or not, but by this time, it doesn't matter. Never met
    him
    personally though, we both have occupations in technical fields, we both
    like
    good sushi, and many of his piano performance recommendations are quite
    good.

    A respectable place? With antisemites like TeeDee? With pedophiles like
    this one guy I forgot the name of? With wannabe nazis like pluted with
    whom you all - even Jews like Dan and Oscar - often interacted with in a friendly way? With narcissists like Dan and teedee etc? How blind were
    you to think of this as a respectable place? There was always drama and animosity here as far as I can tell -- especially judging by the people
    who are still around and have been part of the past.

    If this was a respectable place, people would not have been friendly to
    the antisemites in this ng ;) unfortunately the people who thought of
    this place as respectable don't even recognize antisemitism when it's
    infront of their face -- this place has always been a shithole when it
    comes to morality. Guess that's also why Samir left -- he just couldn't
    deal with the bullshit anymore.

    Well, it's usenet, so respectability is a subjective thing, but the times I'm talking about way before Google archived usenet (then stopped). (Probably before you were born.)



    How am I supposed to respect you Owen? You were silent about the
    antisemitism here, and now talk about how this supposedly was a
    respectable place? Can't take ya seriously.

    Please don't take me seriously. That's much too serious.


    Also, how about answering the more important second question I asked
    you, Owen?

    Why?


    It does not fucking matter what Putin wants you idiot, or if he it goes
    against his interests or whatever, what matters is what the Ukrainians
    want - have you ever fucking considered their interests? No, you idiot
    always evaded my question when I asked this. They - the majority of the
    Ukrainians - don't want to live under Putin, otherwise they would not be >>> dying every fucking die fighting the russians -- are you fucking blind
    or what?

    Like JFK didn't like Russian missiles in Cuba, neither did Putin like
    NATO
    missiles in Ukraine. All the NATO talk leveraged (and gave Putin an
    excuse
    for) Russia's invasion. Of course it matters what Putin wants, he
    invaded,
    didn't he? Don't you realize that Biden administration rhetoric made
    Putin
    feel backed into a corner? I'm not excusing Putin's actions, they're
    cruel and
    merciless, but the NATO rhetoric started that ball in play.

    Not that I think the invasion was good for anybody. I think all war is
    stupid.

    Oh so you're a pacifist? I think waging a war against the Russians is
    good here, just as it was good to fight a war against the Nazis ;)

    The Nazis tried waging war against Russia. How'd that turn out?


    The people who sacrificed their lives on D-Day fought a war that was not stupid, but neccessary.

    My politicians hate your politicians so we'll send our 20 year olds to
    kill
    and die just to spite you until your citizens can't stand any more
    bloodshed.
    Hope Trump ends it soon.

    Again Owen.. you talk about Trump, you talk about JFK, you talk about
    Putin, you talk about Biden and a whole lot of other things.. but you do
    not mention the Ukrainians once, you never consider what the Ukrainians
    want -- like how blind are you Owen?.. I explicitly mentioned this in
    the post you are replying to and yet here again you fail to mention the Ukrainians. Owen, don't you think the Ukrainians should have their own
    say on what they want?

    Isn't it obvious what the Ukrainians want?

    The Ukrainians want to be part of the west -- this is not some "regime-change"-action by Biden, or some CIA secret mission or
    whatever.. it's just Ukrainian people who want to be part of the west. Whatever Biden did in the Ukraine is irrelevant to this, just as all
    your other points are.


    "You can't always get what you want"
    -Rolling Stones

    P.S. Speaking of the Babylon Bee, today's headline:

    "New Pope Spends First Day Undoing All Of Former Pope's Executive Orders"

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  • From Owen Hartnett@21:1/5 to DeepBlue on Sat May 10 20:45:59 2025
    On May 9, 2025 at 11:32:03 PM EDT, "DeepBlue" <dan.koren@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Fri, 9 May 2025 15:51:58 +0000,
    Owen Hartnett wrote:

    Biden administration rhetoric made
    Putin feel backed into a corner

    Didn't he invade Chechnia and Georgia
    long before the Bidet was installed
    in White House? IIRC Bush was prez
    when these happened. and Condi Rice
    is/was as much of anti-Russian hawk
    as Jake Sullivan and Banana.

    And 22.4 million km² sounds like a
    pretty roomy corner ;-)

    Cheers!

    It started there, and the previous invasion under Obama.

    The big question nobody ever answers: Whattaya gonna do bout it?

    -Owen

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  • From Pluted Pup@21:1/5 to Zionazi on Mon May 12 15:36:27 2025
    On 5/8/25 9:52 PM, Zionazi wrote:
    It does not fucking matter what Putin wants you idiot, or if he it goes against his interests or whatever, what matters is what the Ukrainians
    want - have you ever fucking considered their interests? No, you idiot
    always evaded my question when I asked this. They - the majority of the Ukrainians - don't want to live under Putin, otherwise they would not be dying every fucking die fighting the russians -- are you fucking blind
    or what?

    Putin is a murderer of antisemites, in Russia as well as the
    Ukraine, so is not acceptable. What Ukrainians want is to
    overthrow the all-Jewish criminal class euphemistically called
    the "oligarchs", which is why antisemites are the prime opponents
    of Putin and his oligarch regime, and certainly not Jews, who
    support Putin's war on antisemitism.

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  • From Owen Hartnett@21:1/5 to Zionazi on Tue May 13 16:24:12 2025
    On May 13, 2025 at 3:09:56 AM EDT, "Zionazi" <marcs12212@gmail.com> wrote:


    I guess in the end Nazism ought to be respected as well eh? I mean it’s subjective.. if respecatbility is subjective, Everything ought to be respected — the beheading of french schoolteachers because they were critically discussing Mohammed caricatures etc.

    Respectability is in the eye of the beholder. Lots of people in Germany in
    1939 thought Nazism was swell.



    The Nazis tried waging war against Russia. How'd that turn out?

    Well fwiw what I’ve Said can ofc be easily misunderstood: I didn’t mean to Invade russia, just fight a war against in the Russians on ukrainian Territory until they leave it.

    So Moscow gets bombed by a bomb with "Made in USA" on it, and Putin says "Oh, at least they're not invading our country?"

    These proxy wars are sickening. Russia and USA want to fight, but not directly each other, because they know they can't stop until they destroy the world.
    So they pick another country to do their dirty work.


    Also, as opposed to your implied Pessimism about the strength of the US
    army, i actually do believe that the US army - as opposed to the nazi
    army - would be capable of winning a war against russia. Kind of sad you implied they would get their Asses handed to them, like it was Done with
    the Nazis… Not very Patriotic Are ya Owen?

    Have you ever watched the movie "Dr. Strangelove?

    -Owen


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