• Re: Adorno on Wagner, Strauss and Scriabin

    From Pluted Pup@21:1/5 to Zionazi on Mon Sep 16 18:52:42 2024
    On Sun, 15 Sep 2024 05:05:44 -0700, Zionazi wrote:

    Just found this:

    "There is one sphere in which the previous generation has failed us
    after all: musical pornography. Tristan's ecstasies between night and
    day, the complex and resonant soul of Princess Salome and, lastly, the
    cosmic utterances of Alexander Scriabin - however exalted their
    aspirations may have been, their goal ultimately was always the musical representation of a consummated sexual intercourse. But this they were
    unable to achieve. Notwithstanding Schreker's notable experiments and Skriabin's valiant efforts, the orchestral euphoria remains paltry when compared with the ecstasies of physical intercourse. The fate of that
    idea of unattainable joy inaugurated by romantic music is now sealed. It
    is not simply that it has lost the idealistic Divine Spark which it had ostensibly been striving for. Even worse, the actual bodily pleasure
    which was its real focus was denied it. So the belief that the erotic
    music of the nineteenth century was impotent is more than just psychologically valid and the state prosecutors who left it in peace had
    good reason to do so."

    And it seems to be a valid observation...

    https://www.versobooks.com/blogs/news/2839-adorno-s-motifs-a-selection?srsltid=AfmBOor84CwfMOEqm4ZvBMK5V5cMt9euwHJMT3zXbfu_4m1lacrwN1br

    Adorno was and is woke: in the 1920s, Adorno was demanding
    the castration of Romance from Western Music, while
    in the 2020s he would be demanding the castration of
    preadolescent Western children.

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