• HAAS Tooling

    From Bob La Londe@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 5 13:54:17 2024
    My son got a second job as the guy taking care of, helping with setups,
    etc at the NAU (Yuma Campus) machine shop. Primarily they have a couple
    HAAS Mini Mill 2 VMCs, and a TL1 lathe... along with some other
    equipment. He was over helping me install some equipment in my shop the
    other day. (He's skinny enough to get behind some stuff without moving
    it) We got to geeking about things. One thing I suggested to him a
    while back is to see if he could get the university to pay the for the
    cost of him taking the HAAS certification courses on those machines. He
    asked and they agreed. They even went the extra expense of bringing out somebody from HAAS to complete the certifications. Part of the courses
    are on-line, but you have to do the final certifications in person.
    Most people travel to their HQ for that. The university is bringing
    somebody out from HAAS.

    One of the other things we talked about was tooling. The university has
    a deal with HAAS where they have to use all HAAS tooling. Sounds at
    first like they got educator prices on machines, and then got stuck, but
    no. The price of just about everything I looked up was really good.
    New CT40 tool holders for less than the price of used ones on eBay. A
    Haimer 3D taster for a little more than 25% less than the CHEAPEST other
    source I have found. I might actually buy one at that price... with a
    whole box of spare probes of course. LOL. I didn't look at everything obviously, but the price for the HAAS tooling we looked at is very
    reasonable. That is not some special educator price either. That's the
    price you or I would pay.

    They asked Rob (my son) to give them a list of tooling he wanted for the machines. They baulked when it was as much as another machine. LOL.

    His first job is as a licensed pharmacy technician. Okay maybe that's
    the 2nd job and the NAU machine shop is the third. He is also a full
    time engineering student. He already has several AA degrees and is
    working on his BA. That's his primary job.


    --
    Bob La Londe
    CNC Molds N Stuff

    --
    This email has been checked for viruses by AVG antivirus software.
    www.avg.com

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Bob La Londe@21:1/5 to Bob La Londe on Mon Aug 5 14:14:49 2024
    On 8/5/2024 1:54 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
    My son got a second job as the guy taking care of, helping with setups,
    etc at the NAU (Yuma Campus) machine shop.  Primarily they have a couple HAAS Mini Mill 2 VMCs, and a TL1 lathe... along with some other
    equipment.  He was over helping me install some equipment in my shop the other day. (He's skinny enough to get behind some stuff without moving
    it)  We got to geeking about things.  One thing I suggested to him a
    while back is to see if he could get the university to pay the for the
    cost of him taking the HAAS certification courses on those machines.  He asked and they agreed.  They even went the extra expense of bringing out somebody from HAAS to complete the certifications.  Part of the courses
    are on-line, but you have to do the final certifications in person. Most people travel to their HQ for that.  The university is bringing somebody
    out from HAAS.

    One of the other things we talked about was tooling.  The university has
    a deal with HAAS where they have to use all HAAS tooling.  Sounds at
    first like they got educator prices on machines, and then got stuck, but no.  The price of just about everything I looked up was really good. New CT40 tool holders for less than the price of used ones on eBay.  A
    Haimer 3D taster for a little more than 25% less than the CHEAPEST other source I have found.  I might actually buy one at that price... with a
    whole box of spare probes of course.  LOL.  I didn't look at everything obviously, but the price for the HAAS tooling we looked at is very reasonable.  That is not some special educator price either.  That's the price you or I would pay.

    They asked Rob (my son) to give them a list of tooling he wanted for the machines.  They baulked when it was as much as another machine.  LOL.

    His first job is as a licensed pharmacy technician.  Okay maybe that's
    the 2nd job and the NAU machine shop is the third.  He is also a full
    time engineering student.  He already has several AA degrees and is
    working on his BA.  That's his primary job.



    Okay, I checked some other stuff and some of it is pretty daffy
    expensive, but there is still a lot that is crazy competitive.
    --
    Bob La Londe
    CNC Molds N Stuff


    --
    This email has been checked for viruses by AVG antivirus software.
    www.avg.com

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Gerry@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 5 23:17:27 2024
    On Mon, 5 Aug 2024 14:14:49 -0700, Bob La Londe <none@none.com99>
    wrote:

    On 8/5/2024 1:54 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
    My son got a second job as the guy taking care of, helping with setups,
    etc at the NAU (Yuma Campus) machine shop.á Primarily they have a couple
    HAAS Mini Mill 2 VMCs, and a TL1 lathe... along with some other
    equipment.á He was over helping me install some equipment in my shop the
    other day. (He's skinny enough to get behind some stuff without moving
    it)á We got to geeking about things.á One thing I suggested to him a
    while back is to see if he could get the university to pay the for the
    cost of him taking the HAAS certification courses on those machines.á He
    asked and they agreed.á They even went the extra expense of bringing out
    somebody from HAAS to complete the certifications.á Part of the courses
    are on-line, but you have to do the final certifications in person. Most
    people travel to their HQ for that.á The university is bringing somebody
    out from HAAS.

    One of the other things we talked about was tooling.á The university has
    a deal with HAAS where they have to use all HAAS tooling.á Sounds at
    first like they got educator prices on machines, and then got stuck, but
    no.á The price of just about everything I looked up was really good. New
    CT40 tool holders for less than the price of used ones on eBay.á A
    Haimer 3D taster for a little more than 25% less than the CHEAPEST other
    source I have found.á I might actually buy one at that price... with a
    whole box of spare probes of course.á LOL.á I didn't look at everything
    obviously, but the price for the HAAS tooling we looked at is very
    reasonable.á That is not some special educator price either.á That's the
    price you or I would pay.

    They asked Rob (my son) to give them a list of tooling he wanted for the
    machines.á They baulked when it was as much as another machine.á LOL.

    His first job is as a licensed pharmacy technician.á Okay maybe that's
    the 2nd job and the NAU machine shop is the third.á He is also a full
    time engineering student.á He already has several AA degrees and is
    working on his BA.á That's his primary job.



    Okay, I checked some other stuff and some of it is pretty daffy
    expensive, but there is still a lot that is crazy competitive.
    --
    Bob La Londe
    CNC Molds N Stuff
    You have a son to be proud of!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Bob La Londe@21:1/5 to Gerry on Tue Aug 6 13:23:42 2024
    On 8/5/2024 8:17 PM, Gerry wrote:

    You have a son to be proud of!


    Thank you. Yeah, he's a better man than me.

    --
    Bob La Londe
    CNC Molds N Stuff


    --
    This email has been checked for viruses by AVG antivirus software.
    www.avg.com

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Bob La Londe@21:1/5 to Jim Wilkins on Thu Aug 15 11:27:54 2024
    On 8/14/2024 6:34 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
    "Gerry"  wrote in message
    news:gc53bjtirokrsnad8d6n0426lsafuq4lbt@4ax.com...

    On Mon, 5 Aug 2024 14:14:49 -0700, Bob La Londe <none@none.com99>
    wrote:

    On 8/5/2024 1:54 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
    My son got a second job as the guy taking care of, helping with setups,
    etc at the NAU (Yuma Campus) machine shop.  Primarily they have a couple >>> HAAS Mini Mill 2 VMCs, and a TL1 lathe... along with some other
    equipment.  He was over helping me install some equipment in my shop the >>> other day. (He's skinny enough to get behind some stuff without moving
    it)  We got to geeking about things.  One thing I suggested to him a
    while back is to see if he could get the university to pay the for the
    cost of him taking the HAAS certification courses on those machines.  He >>> asked and they agreed.  They even went the extra expense of bringing out >>> somebody from HAAS to complete the certifications.  Part of the courses >>> are on-line, but you have to do the final certifications in person. Most >>> people travel to their HQ for that.  The university is bringing somebody >>> out from HAAS.

    One of the other things we talked about was tooling.  The university has >>> a deal with HAAS where they have to use all HAAS tooling.  Sounds at
    first like they got educator prices on machines, and then got stuck, but >>> no.  The price of just about everything I looked up was really good. New >>> CT40 tool holders for less than the price of used ones on eBay.  A
    Haimer 3D taster for a little more than 25% less than the CHEAPEST other >>> source I have found.  I might actually buy one at that price... with a
    whole box of spare probes of course.  LOL.  I didn't look at everything >>> obviously, but the price for the HAAS tooling we looked at is very
    reasonable.  That is not some special educator price either.  That's the >>> price you or I would pay.

    They asked Rob (my son) to give them a list of tooling he wanted for the >>> machines.  They baulked when it was as much as another machine.  LOL.

    His first job is as a licensed pharmacy technician.  Okay maybe that's
    the 2nd job and the NAU machine shop is the third.  He is also a full
    time engineering student.  He already has several AA degrees and is
    working on his BA.  That's his primary job.



    Okay, I checked some other stuff and some of it is pretty daffy
    expensive, but there is still a lot that is crazy competitive.
    --
    Bob La Londe
    CNC Molds N Stuff
    You have a son to be proud of!

    --------------------------------
    With that skill mix he could do well in biotech instrumentation, robotic surgery machines or pharmaceutical manufacturing. My skill mix of
    chemistry + physics, electronics and machining got me good and
    interesting prototyping jobs where I fleshed out the initial concept and
    then built it. A design engineer who understands manufacturing can avoid
    the expensive wrong turns engineers who don't know it can make. Even
    senior mechanical engineers can miss practical details, at Segway I introduced one to PEM nuts for simple and secure blind attachments to
    sheet aluminum, which he had avoided using in a robot because he didn't
    trust sheet metal screws.
    jsw

    I'm more impressed that he's doing it without running up debt. He and
    his significant other are looking for a house. If they find something
    that will shoot that in the foot though. I was looking at houses listed locally on Realtor dot com and the cheapest house (shack really) with
    land (postage stamp size) listed was 125,000. It wasn't that long ago a
    buddy of mine was buying up repos for 20-60 grand.


    --
    Bob La Londe
    CNC Molds N Stuff


    --
    This email has been checked for viruses by AVG antivirus software.
    www.avg.com

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)