• Stainless Parting - I've Gone Backwards

    From Bob La Londe@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 28 17:37:19 2025
    No, I didn't put the lathe in reverse, except when I meant to anyway.

    I bought a new parting tool, and some new parting inserts for it that
    were supposedly optimized for high chromium and stainless steels. I
    broke a lot of inserts.

    I went back to an HSS parting blade, but I used one 3/16 wide (yeah
    really) and ground a chip breaker in it. Then I polished by hand with a diamond hone. Turned the lathe speed way down, and cut several pieces
    of 1.5in diameter 416 without much issue. It does need a drop (just a
    drop) 8-10 times during the cut, but it did the trick without a lot of excitement.

    The chip breaker didn't always break the chips, but it did curly them up
    nicely when it didn't. I didn't have any wild death metal flying around
    in my face.

    I'd really like to be able to due this process faster, but atleast some
    of my customers are opting for the cheaper aluminum inserts.

    Its not a heavy lathe, but its not a toy either. Its got a 14 inch
    sling, 3HP motor, and weighs right at 2000lbs. The only thing I thought
    of is swapping it out to a 3phase motor so I can change the RPM on the
    fly as the diameter decreases. Yeah, I know a real lathe that size would probably weigh twice that.


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  • From Snag@21:1/5 to Bob La Londe on Fri Feb 28 18:59:05 2025
    On 2/28/2025 6:37 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
    No, I didn't put the lathe in reverse, except when I meant to anyway.

    I bought a new parting tool, and some new parting inserts for it that
    were supposedly optimized for high chromium and stainless steels.  I
    broke a lot of inserts.

    I went back to an HSS parting blade, but I used one 3/16 wide (yeah
    really) and ground a chip breaker in it.  Then I polished by hand with a diamond hone.  Turned the lathe speed way down, and cut several pieces
    of 1.5in diameter 416 without much issue.  It does need a drop (just a
    drop) 8-10 times during the cut, but it did the trick without a lot of excitement.

    The chip breaker didn't always break the chips, but it did curly them up nicely when it didn't.  I didn't have any wild death metal flying around
    in my face.

    I'd really like to be able to due this process faster, but atleast some
    of my customers are opting for the cheaper aluminum inserts.

    Its not a heavy lathe, but its not a toy either.  Its got a 14 inch
    sling, 3HP motor, and weighs right at 2000lbs.  The only thing I thought
    of is swapping it out to a 3phase motor so I can change the RPM on the
    fly as the diameter decreases. Yeah, I know a real lathe that size would probably weigh twice that.



    I'm still using the 73 year old Logan I got almost 25 years ago .
    But you're in a different world of machinery requirements . Is there no
    way this cutting operation can be done on a bandsaw or a cold saw ?
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  • From Bob La Londe@21:1/5 to Snag on Fri Feb 28 18:15:20 2025
    On 2/28/2025 5:59 PM, Snag wrote:
    On 2/28/2025 6:37 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
    No, I didn't put the lathe in reverse, except when I meant to anyway.

    I bought a new parting tool, and some new parting inserts for it that
    were supposedly optimized for high chromium and stainless steels.  I
    broke a lot of inserts.

    I went back to an HSS parting blade, but I used one 3/16 wide (yeah
    really) and ground a chip breaker in it.  Then I polished by hand with
    a diamond hone.  Turned the lathe speed way down, and cut several
    pieces of 1.5in diameter 416 without much issue.  It does need a drop
    (just a drop) 8-10 times during the cut, but it did the trick without
    a lot of excitement.

    The chip breaker didn't always break the chips, but it did curly them
    up nicely when it didn't.  I didn't have any wild death metal flying
    around in my face.

    I'd really like to be able to due this process faster, but atleast
    some of my customers are opting for the cheaper aluminum inserts.

    Its not a heavy lathe, but its not a toy either.  Its got a 14 inch
    sling, 3HP motor, and weighs right at 2000lbs.  The only thing I
    thought of is swapping it out to a 3phase motor so I can change the
    RPM on the fly as the diameter decreases. Yeah, I know a real lathe
    that size would probably weigh twice that.



       I'm still using the 73 year old Logan I got almost 25 years ago .
    But you're in a different world of machinery requirements . Is there no
    way this cutting operation can be done on a bandsaw or a cold saw ?

    I actually was cutting them on a bandsaw up until recently, but then I
    needed to chuck up each piece in the lathe twice to face and chamfer.
    The little Harbor Freight 4x6-8 cuts all my stainless and alloy, and the
    bigger 7x12 cuts all my aluminum. I know that sounds backwards, but I
    can get decent SuperCuts HSS bi-metal blades locally at Harbor Freight
    for it. I'm using up some carbon steel blades on the bigger saw right
    now.

    A good quality cold saw could probably make a decent enough cut, but I'd
    still need to deburr. The safest way to do that is on the lathe. A
    good quality cold saw is also kind of expensive.


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