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"Jim Wilkins" wrote in message news:vgrgle$k6r1$1@dont-email.me...
It's fine now, just needed an operator headspace adjustment.
"Bob La Londe" wrote in message news:vgtv1p$16ml6$1@dont-email.me...
On 11/11/2024 2:42 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
"Jim Wilkins" wrote in message news:vgrgle$k6r1$1@dont-email.me...
It's fine now, just needed an operator headspace adjustment.
You say you re-torqued the nut behind the wheel?
Bob La Londe
----------------------------
The good part is while looking for the problem I checked conditions and cleaned up and sprayed
overlooked corrosion. Both of my vehicles are becoming old enough to
attract the attention of car buffs. Both have drivetrains reputed to
last 300,000 miles but New England road salt rust usually kills well
before that.
PB Blaster unstuck the light alloy master cylinder from the steel vacuum booster. The factory shop manual gives plans to machine a gauge to check
or set booster pushrod protrusion, if you have a machine shop handy. I
do but instead of milling the gauge I used a parallel. That isn't the
only special tool they expect you to make. I snagged the engine tool kit
at an auction.
A neighbor is restoring a 71 Chevy from worse condition than my truck.
On 11/11/2024 4:06 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
"Bob La Londe"á wrote in message news:vgtv1p$16ml6$1@dont-email.me...
On 11/11/2024 2:42 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
"Jim Wilkins"á wrote in message news:vgrgle$k6r1$1@dont-email.me...
It's fine now, just needed an operator headspace adjustment.
You say you re-torqued the nut behind the wheel?
Bob La Londe
----------------------------
The good part is while looking for the problem I checked conditions and
cleaned up and sprayed
overlooked corrosion. Both of my vehicles are becoming old enough to
attract the attention of car buffs. Both have drivetrains reputed to
last 300,000 miles but New England road salt rust usually kills well
before that.
PB Blaster unstuck the light alloy master cylinder from the steel vacuum
booster. The factory shop manual gives plans to machine a gauge to check
or set booster pushrod protrusion, if you have a machine shop handy. I
do but instead of milling the gauge I used a parallel. That isn't the
only special tool they expect you to make. I snagged the engine tool kit
at an auction.
A neighbor is restoring a 71 Chevy from worse condition than my truck.
I'll tell you after my last truck buying experience I would be very
tempted to buy an old truck and restore it if I had the time. I think
the 1982 Bronco might be my last such project. I'd be tempted to do >something with the '42 Willys, but I'll probably let it go to somebody
with a passion for it.
Interestingly the 42 Willys has virtually no rust, while the Bronco
needs some body work.
--
Bob La Londe
CNC Molds N Stuff
On 11/11/2024 4:06 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
"Bob La Londe"á wrote in message news:vgtv1p$16ml6$1@dont-email.me...
On 11/11/2024 2:42 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
"Jim Wilkins"á wrote in message news:vgrgle$k6r1$1@dont-email.me...
It's fine now, just needed an operator headspace adjustment.
You say you re-torqued the nut behind the wheel?
Bob La Londe
----------------------------
The good part is while looking for the problem I checked conditions and
cleaned up and sprayed
overlooked corrosion. Both of my vehicles are becoming old enough to
attract the attention of car buffs. Both have drivetrains reputed to
last 300,000 miles but New England road salt rust usually kills well
before that.
PB Blaster unstuck the light alloy master cylinder from the steel vacuum
booster. The factory shop manual gives plans to machine a gauge to check
or set booster pushrod protrusion, if you have a machine shop handy. I
do but instead of milling the gauge I used a parallel. That isn't the
only special tool they expect you to make. I snagged the engine tool kit
at an auction.
A neighbor is restoring a 71 Chevy from worse condition than my truck.
I'll tell you after my last truck buying experience I would be very
tempted to buy an old truck and restore it if I had the time. I think
the 1982 Bronco might be my last such project. I'd be tempted to do >something with the '42 Willys, but I'll probably let it go to somebody
with a passion for it.
Interestingly the 42 Willys has virtually no rust, while the Bronco
needs some body work.
t
--
Bob La Londe
CNC Molds N Stuff
"Clare Snyder" wrote in message news:d5j5jjh9l75v95jofkrde2b2r8o7lr2bfr@4ax.com...
toobad that willys is so far away!!
--------------------------------------
--
Bob La Londe
CNC Molds N Stuff
The M151 Jeeps we had in Germany were not good on the roads there. They couldn't keep up on the Autobahn and the winding back roads that BMWs
were built for tempted drivers to exceed their cornering limits. My VW
could easily handle the unpaved forest fire trails where we set up field exercise sites.
On 11/11/2024 8:51 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
"Clare Snyder" wrote in message
news:d5j5jjh9l75v95jofkrde2b2r8o7lr2bfr@4ax.com...
toobad that willys is so far away!!
--------------------------------------
--
Bob La Londe
CNC Molds N Stuff
The M151 Jeeps we had in Germany were not good on the roads there.
They couldn't keep up on the Autobahn and the winding back roads that
BMWs were built for tempted drivers to exceed their cornering limits.
My VW could easily handle the unpaved forest fire trails where we set
up field exercise sites.
When my dad first got that old Willys ready to go for a first off road adventure we headed off across the sand dunes. I thought it was going
just fine, but he said he didn't feel like it was performing properly.
When we got back to the store and pulled around to the back to the shop
he hopped out to take a look. Then he realized he hadn't engaged the hubs. LOL.
Probably, its biggest real world use for us was tracking people lost in
the desert. Now I can track (to a limited extent) looking at the window
of my truck, but I've always been better able to track on the ground.
Back then I hadn't really learned to track. Not well anyway. We'd put that old GPV in first gear and hop out. As long as the terrain wasn't extremely off camber or a crazy grade it would easily keep going in the direction it was last pointed. We could spread out, cut sign, walk back
to the Jeep for lunch or a drink of water, or to change course as
needed. Seems like a little thing but it made a several hour to all day rescue tolerable.
The short wheel base and front and rear end clearance was fantastic for crossing all but the worst washouts, and it would climb some pretty incredible grades just idling along with somebody at the wheel. Sand
was not even an issue.
High speed cornering? Um-no. Lots of high clearance vehicles struggle with that. Even some you might not think. Flat out on the Autobahn?
You are kidding right? How much do you expect out of a flat head four?
Were you guys raiding the clinic and feeding it nitrous? Even then... Um-no. LOL
FYI: That old '42 had a top speed in the high 50s. Maybe low 60s (but
I doubt it), but its got a torque ratio at idle that's insane. Its a utility vehicle. By today's standards just a basic 4x4 side by side
with a bed to haul some stuff.
P.S. I should say I can track in the desert. Not so much in the woods.
It depends.
On 11/12/2024 3:02 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
On 11/11/2024 8:51 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
"Clare Snyder" wrote in message
news:d5j5jjh9l75v95jofkrde2b2r8o7lr2bfr@4ax.com...
toobad that willys is so far away!!
--------------------------------------
--
Bob La Londe
CNC Molds N Stuff
The M151 Jeeps we had in Germany were not good on the roads there.
They couldn't keep up on the Autobahn and the winding back roads that
BMWs were built for tempted drivers to exceed their cornering limits.
My VW could easily handle the unpaved forest fire trails where we set
up field exercise sites.
When my dad first got that old Willys ready to go for a first off road
adventure we headed off across the sand dunes. I thought it was going
just fine, but he said he didn't feel like it was performing properly.
When we got back to the store and pulled around to the back to the
shop he hopped out to take a look. Then he realized he hadn't engaged
the hubs. LOL.
Probably, its biggest real world use for us was tracking people lost
in the desert. Now I can track (to a limited extent) looking at the
window of my truck, but I've always been better able to track on the
ground. Back then I hadn't really learned to track. Not well anyway.
We'd put that old GPV in first gear and hop out. As long as the
terrain wasn't extremely off camber or a crazy grade it would easily
keep going in the direction it was last pointed. We could spread out,
cut sign, walk back to the Jeep for lunch or a drink of water, or to
change course as needed. Seems like a little thing but it made a
several hour to all day rescue tolerable.
The short wheel base and front and rear end clearance was fantastic
for crossing all but the worst washouts, and it would climb some
pretty incredible grades just idling along with somebody at the
wheel. Sand was not even an issue.
High speed cornering? Um-no. Lots of high clearance vehicles
struggle with that. Even some you might not think. Flat out on the
Autobahn? You are kidding right? How much do you expect out of a flat
head four? Were you guys raiding the clinic and feeding it nitrous?
Even then... Um-no. LOL
FYI: That old '42 had a top speed in the high 50s. Maybe low 60s
(but I doubt it), but its got a torque ratio at idle that's insane.
Its a utility vehicle. By today's standards just a basic 4x4 side by
side with a bed to haul some stuff.
P.S. I should say I can track in the desert. Not so much in the
woods. It depends.
Dad had a '57 Jeep pickup , he swapped out the original flathead six
for a Tornado 230 overhead cam six . Weren't much for top end but it
sure could climb ! Used to really piss of the guys with their hopped up
big tire hot rod Chevy's and Fords . Dad would set the throttle at about 1500-1600 RPM and drop it in low/low/4 and just walk up the hills those
boys just spun out on . My brother "gave it away to a friend" after Dad
died .
"Snag" wrote in message news:vh0ini$1q13r$1@dont-email.me...
Dad had a '57 Jeep pickup , he swapped out the original flathead six
for a Tornado 230 overhead cam six . Weren't much for top end but it
sure could climb ! Used to really piss of the guys with their hopped up
big tire hot rod Chevy's and Fords . Dad would set the throttle at about 1500-1600 RPM and drop it in low/low/4 and just walk up the hills those
boys just spun out on . My brother "gave it away to a friend" after Dad
died .
--
Snag
--------------------------------------
When I was of that age for some reason Jeeps weren't common off-road in
NH. VW dune buggies and older foreign cars were more popular with those
who couldn't afford a Land Rover, pickups with many who could. Dirt
bikes were the main choice before trikes and quads appeared, street-
legal ones like mine could get themselves to / from distant trails,
though I had to go around the most challenging obstacles. My buddy had a
Land Rover which proved the adage that the better you have, the further
in you get stuck. Usually I could get close enough to help dig out in my Beetle.
In Germany I had a bicycle and an inflatable boat, either of which could carry me plus the other, and fences didn't block me. I could bicycle upstream, float down the river, then bicycle home. The grid of fire
trails in forests let me go anywhere cross-country. Shell road maps were almost as detailed as topo maps and showed various ancient ruins to
explore.
On 11/11/2024 8:51 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
"Clare Snyder"á wrote in message
news:d5j5jjh9l75v95jofkrde2b2r8o7lr2bfr@4ax.com...
toobad that willys is so far away!!
--------------------------------------
--
Bob La Londe
CNC Molds N Stuff
The M151 Jeeps we had in Germany were not good on the roads there. They
couldn't keep up on the Autobahn and the winding back roads that BMWs
were built for tempted drivers to exceed their cornering limits. My VW
could easily handle the unpaved forest fire trails where we set up field
exercise sites.
When my dad first got that old Willys ready to go for a first off road >adventure we headed off across the sand dunes. I thought it was going
just fine, but he said he didn't feel like it was performing properly.
When we got back to the store and pulled around to the back to the shop
he hopped out to take a look. Then he realized he hadn't engaged the
hubs. LOL.
Probably, its biggest real world use for us was tracking people lost in
the desert. Now I can track (to a limited extent) looking at the window
of my truck, but I've always been better able to track on the ground.
Back then I hadn't really learned to track. Not well anyway. We'd put
that old GPV in first gear and hop out. As long as the terrain wasn't >extremely off camber or a crazy grade it would easily keep going in the >direction it was last pointed. We could spread out, cut sign, walk back
to the Jeep for lunch or a drink of water, or to change course as
needed. Seems like a little thing but it made a several hour to all day >rescue tolerable.
The short wheel base and front and rear end clearance was fantastic for >crossing all but the worst washouts, and it would climb some pretty >incredible grades just idling along with somebody at the wheel. Sand
was not even an issue.
High speed cornering? Um-no. Lots of high clearance vehicles struggle
with that. Even some you might not think. Flat out on the Autobahn?
You are kidding right? How much do you expect out of a flat head four?
Were you guys raiding the clinic and feeding it nitrous? Even then...
Um-no. LOL
FYI: That old '42 had a top speed in the high 50s. Maybe low 60s (but
I doubt it), but its got a torque ratio at idle that's insane. Its a
utility vehicle. By today's standards just a basic 4x4 side by side
with a bed to haul some stuff.
P.S. I should say I can track in the desert. Not so much in the woods.
It depends.
--I used to run an ex-military Dodge PowerWagon (1946?) as a tow truck.
Bob La Londe
CNC Molds N Stuff
On 11/11/2024 8:51 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
"Clare Snyder"á wrote in message
news:d5j5jjh9l75v95jofkrde2b2r8o7lr2bfr@4ax.com...
toobad that willys is so far away!!
--------------------------------------
--
Bob La Londe
CNC Molds N Stuff
The M151 Jeeps we had in Germany were not good on the roads there. They
couldn't keep up on the Autobahn and the winding back roads that BMWs
were built for tempted drivers to exceed their cornering limits. My VW
could easily handle the unpaved forest fire trails where we set up field
exercise sites.
When my dad first got that old Willys ready to go for a first off road >adventure we headed off across the sand dunes. I thought it was going
just fine, but he said he didn't feel like it was performing properly.
When we got back to the store and pulled around to the back to the shop
he hopped out to take a look. Then he realized he hadn't engaged the
hubs. LOL.
Probably, its biggest real world use for us was tracking people lost in
the desert. Now I can track (to a limited extent) looking at the window
of my truck, but I've always been better able to track on the ground.
Back then I hadn't really learned to track. Not well anyway. We'd put
that old GPV in first gear and hop out. As long as the terrain wasn't >extremely off camber or a crazy grade it would easily keep going in the >direction it was last pointed. We could spread out, cut sign, walk back
to the Jeep for lunch or a drink of water, or to change course as
needed. Seems like a little thing but it made a several hour to all day >rescue tolerable.
The short wheel base and front and rear end clearance was fantastic for >crossing all but the worst washouts, and it would climb some pretty >incredible grades just idling along with somebody at the wheel. Sand
was not even an issue.
High speed cornering? Um-no. Lots of high clearance vehicles struggle
with that. Even some you might not think. Flat out on the Autobahn?
You are kidding right? How much do you expect out of a flat head four?
Were you guys raiding the clinic and feeding it nitrous? Even then...
Um-no. LOL
FYI: That old '42 had a top speed in the high 50s. Maybe low 60s (but
I doubt it), but its got a torque ratio at idle that's insane. Its a
utility vehicle. By today's standards just a basic 4x4 side by side
with a bed to haul some stuff.
P.S. I should say I can track in the desert. Not so much in the woods.
It depends.
--Around 1954-55, my older brother had a jeep flat bed 2wd truck, worst
Bob La Londe
CNC Molds N Stuff
My interest was exploring the back country, not tearing it up, the tread >lightly ethic, so unlike my buddy with the Land Rover I didn't have to climb >the steepest hills just to prove I could...
My Suzuki 185 would go almost anywhere...
On Tue, 12 Nov 2024 14:02:49 -0700, Bob La Londe <none@none.com99>
wrote:
On 11/11/2024 8:51 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:Around 1954-55, my older brother had a jeep flat bed 2wd truck, worst
"Clare Snyder" wrote in message
news:d5j5jjh9l75v95jofkrde2b2r8o7lr2bfr@4ax.com...
toobad that willys is so far away!!
--------------------------------------
--
Bob La Londe
CNC Molds N Stuff
The M151 Jeeps we had in Germany were not good on the roads there. They
couldn't keep up on the Autobahn and the winding back roads that BMWs
were built for tempted drivers to exceed their cornering limits. My VW
could easily handle the unpaved forest fire trails where we set up field >>> exercise sites.
When my dad first got that old Willys ready to go for a first off road
adventure we headed off across the sand dunes. I thought it was going
just fine, but he said he didn't feel like it was performing properly.
When we got back to the store and pulled around to the back to the shop
he hopped out to take a look. Then he realized he hadn't engaged the
hubs. LOL.
Probably, its biggest real world use for us was tracking people lost in
the desert. Now I can track (to a limited extent) looking at the window
of my truck, but I've always been better able to track on the ground.
Back then I hadn't really learned to track. Not well anyway. We'd put
that old GPV in first gear and hop out. As long as the terrain wasn't
extremely off camber or a crazy grade it would easily keep going in the
direction it was last pointed. We could spread out, cut sign, walk back
to the Jeep for lunch or a drink of water, or to change course as
needed. Seems like a little thing but it made a several hour to all day
rescue tolerable.
The short wheel base and front and rear end clearance was fantastic for
crossing all but the worst washouts, and it would climb some pretty
incredible grades just idling along with somebody at the wheel. Sand
was not even an issue.
High speed cornering? Um-no. Lots of high clearance vehicles struggle
with that. Even some you might not think. Flat out on the Autobahn?
You are kidding right? How much do you expect out of a flat head four?
Were you guys raiding the clinic and feeding it nitrous? Even then...
Um-no. LOL
FYI: That old '42 had a top speed in the high 50s. Maybe low 60s (but
I doubt it), but its got a torque ratio at idle that's insane. Its a
utility vehicle. By today's standards just a basic 4x4 side by side
with a bed to haul some stuff.
P.S. I should say I can track in the desert. Not so much in the woods.
It depends.
--
Bob La Londe
CNC Molds N Stuff
truck he ever owned - that thing would get stuck going down hill with
a half inch of mud on the road. My Saturday job, if the temperatur was
below zero F, was to make certain the two heat lamps under the hood
were turned on so that it might start for him to go out somewhere that
night
"Bob La Londe" wrote in message news:vh2s43$2b5ip$1@dont-email.me...
I think I mentioned it in another thread. Pickup trucks (classic bath
tub bed and std cab on a frame) are usually not very good unless they
have a load in the bed. A 2wd open diff pickup would not be my choice either that being said from 2001-2017 all my new service trucks were 2WD
with auto locking diffs. (Chevy work trucks) With the normal load of tools, wire, and hardware they were "okay." I did not unload them to go hunting for instance. As long as I stuck to the main trails until I
bailed out to walk I didn't even think about it.
Of course tires make a big difference. When I ran trap lines back in
the 80s I used a Ford F150 2WD with stock diff and 31 x 10.5 tires.
With all my traps, coolers, and camp gear it did quite well. If I remembered to air down all four) it was passable on most sand, but it
would still sink in bottomless sugar sand. I got it stuck a couple
times, but always got it out on my own. Sometimes it took all day, but
that is the life of a wannabe professional outdoorsman. Okay, my first
year I used a Plymouth Volare station wagon. LOL I think if it had the same tires it would have been better than the pickup.
Bob La Londe
------------------------------
Ramblers did well in the Baja 500.
That definitely applied to my Ranger in 2WD. It was better in 4WD. If I
could get in somewhere with the bed empty I was sure to be able to get
out with a load of firewood. Only dirt bike skid recovery reflexes let
me drive the Ranger in 2WD on partly dry, partly icy pavement. A
particularly difficult icy commute home helped convince me to buy the
AWD CRV which was vastly better with (and good without) sticky
hydrophilic Michelin Arctic Alpine ice tires. A wet finger rubbed on
most tires slides, on the Michelins it grabs and squeaks.
On 11/13/2024 2:15 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:
On Wed, 13 Nov 2024 13:29:54 -0700, Bob La Londe <none@none.com99>
wrote:
On 11/13/2024 12:44 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:Virtually every Michelin tire I have owned has had the sidewalls
"Bob La Londe" wrote in message news:vh2s43$2b5ip$1@dont-email.me... >>>>
I think I mentioned it in another thread. Pickup trucks (classic bath >>>> tub bed and std cab on a frame) are usually not very good unless they
have a load in the bed. A 2wd open diff pickup would not be my choice >>>> either that being said from 2001-2017 all my new service trucks were
2WD
with auto locking diffs. (Chevy work trucks) With the normal load of >>>> tools, wire, and hardware they were "okay." I did not unload them
to go
hunting for instance. As long as I stuck to the main trails until I
bailed out to walk I didn't even think about it.
Of course tires make a big difference. When I ran trap lines back in >>>> the 80s I used a Ford F150 2WD with stock diff and 31 x 10.5 tires.
With all my traps, coolers, and camp gear it did quite well. If I
remembered to air down all four) it was passable on most sand, but it
would still sink in bottomless sugar sand. I got it stuck a couple
times, but always got it out on my own. Sometimes it took all day, but >>>> that is the life of a wannabe professional outdoorsman. Okay, my first >>>> year I used a Plymouth Volare station wagon. LOL I think if it had >>>> the
same tires it would have been better than the pickup.
Bob La Londe
------------------------------
Ramblers did well in the Baja 500.
That definitely applied to my Ranger in 2WD. It was better in 4WD. If I >>>> could get in somewhere with the bed empty I was sure to be able to get >>>> out with a load of firewood. Only dirt bike skid recovery reflexes let >>>> me drive the Ranger in 2WD on partly dry, partly icy pavement. A
particularly difficult icy commute home helped convince me to buy the
AWD CRV which was vastly better with (and good without) sticky
hydrophilic Michelin Arctic Alpine ice tires. A wet finger rubbed on
most tires slides, on the Michelins it grabs and squeaks.
Generally the only complaint I hear about Michelin tires is the price.
When I picked up my new truck I was actually a little disappointed to
see it came with Michelin truck tires. Now I'll have to wait a few
years to wear them out so I can upgrade to some ATs. I'm just to cheap >>> to replace otherwise perfectly good tires.
--
Bob La Londe
CNC Molds N Stuff
checker and crack long before the tread wore out - and that goes back
to early 1960s? Michelin X tires and up to my last xlts. I've never
wore one out - - - - and they have hardened up to the point they would
have made good "burnout tires" even on a 4 or 6 cyl vehicle.
Yes, they all lasted over 6 years - but on many that was less than
30000 KM. REALLY burns to have to throw away expensive rubber with
over 80% tread left!!!!!
Virtually all tires have one major weakness. They degrade with exposure
to the C02 in the air. Buna (neoprene) rubber o-rings too. Buna-N,
Viton, and silicone much less so.
On Wed, 13 Nov 2024 13:29:54 -0700, Bob La Londe <none@none.com99>
wrote:
On 11/13/2024 12:44 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:Virtually every Michelin tire I have owned has had the sidewalls
"Bob La Londe" wrote in message news:vh2s43$2b5ip$1@dont-email.me...
I think I mentioned it in another thread. Pickup trucks (classic bath
tub bed and std cab on a frame) are usually not very good unless they
have a load in the bed. A 2wd open diff pickup would not be my choice
either that being said from 2001-2017 all my new service trucks were 2WD >>> with auto locking diffs. (Chevy work trucks) With the normal load of >>> tools, wire, and hardware they were "okay." I did not unload them to go >>> hunting for instance. As long as I stuck to the main trails until I
bailed out to walk I didn't even think about it.
Of course tires make a big difference. When I ran trap lines back in
the 80s I used a Ford F150 2WD with stock diff and 31 x 10.5 tires.
With all my traps, coolers, and camp gear it did quite well. If I
remembered to air down all four) it was passable on most sand, but it
would still sink in bottomless sugar sand. I got it stuck a couple
times, but always got it out on my own. Sometimes it took all day, but >>> that is the life of a wannabe professional outdoorsman. Okay, my first >>> year I used a Plymouth Volare station wagon. LOL I think if it had the >>> same tires it would have been better than the pickup.
Bob La Londe
------------------------------
Ramblers did well in the Baja 500.
That definitely applied to my Ranger in 2WD. It was better in 4WD. If I
could get in somewhere with the bed empty I was sure to be able to get
out with a load of firewood. Only dirt bike skid recovery reflexes let
me drive the Ranger in 2WD on partly dry, partly icy pavement. A
particularly difficult icy commute home helped convince me to buy the
AWD CRV which was vastly better with (and good without) sticky
hydrophilic Michelin Arctic Alpine ice tires. A wet finger rubbed on
most tires slides, on the Michelins it grabs and squeaks.
Generally the only complaint I hear about Michelin tires is the price.
When I picked up my new truck I was actually a little disappointed to
see it came with Michelin truck tires. Now I'll have to wait a few
years to wear them out so I can upgrade to some ATs. I'm just to cheap
to replace otherwise perfectly good tires.
--
Bob La Londe
CNC Molds N Stuff
checker and crack long before the tread wore out - and that goes back
to early 1960s? Michelin X tires and up to my last xlts. I've never
wore one out - - - - and they have hardened up to the point they would
have made good "burnout tires" even on a 4 or 6 cyl vehicle.
Yes, they all lasted over 6 years - but on many that was less than
30000 KM. REALLY burns to have to throw away expensive rubber with
over 80% tread left!!!!!
On 11/13/2024 12:44 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
"Bob La Londe"á wrote in message news:vh2s43$2b5ip$1@dont-email.me...
I think I mentioned it in another thread.á Pickup trucks (classic bath
tub bed and std cab on a frame) are usually not very good unless they
have a load in the bed.á A 2wd open diff pickup would not be my choice
either that being said from 2001-2017 all my new service trucks were 2WD
with auto locking diffs.á (Chevy work trucks)á With the normal load of
tools, wire, and hardware they were "okay."á I did not unload them to go
hunting for instance.á As long as I stuck to the main trails until I
bailed out to walk I didn't even think about it.
Of course tires make a big difference.á When I ran trap lines back in
the 80s I used a Ford F150 2WD with stock diff and 31 x 10.5 tires.
With all my traps, coolers, and camp gear it did quite well.á If I
remembered to air down all four) it was passable on most sand, but it
would still sink in bottomless sugar sand.á I got it stuck a couple
times, but always got it out on my own.á Sometimes it took all day, but
that is the life of a wannabe professional outdoorsman.á Okay, my first
year I used a Plymouth Volare station wagon.á LOLá I think if it had the
same tires it would have been better than the pickup.
Bob La Londe
------------------------------
Ramblers did well in the Baja 500.
That definitely applied to my Ranger in 2WD. It was better in 4WD. If I
could get in somewhere with the bed empty I was sure to be able to get
out with a load of firewood. Only dirt bike skid recovery reflexes let
me drive the Ranger in 2WD on partly dry, partly icy pavement. A
particularly difficult icy commute home helped convince me to buy the
AWD CRV which was vastly better with (and good without) sticky
hydrophilic Michelin Arctic Alpine ice tires. A wet finger rubbed on
most tires slides, on the Michelins it grabs and squeaks.
Generally the only complaint I hear about Michelin tires is the price.Virtually every Michelin tire I have owned has had the sidewalls
When I picked up my new truck I was actually a little disappointed to
see it came with Michelin truck tires. Now I'll have to wait a few
years to wear them out so I can upgrade to some ATs. I'm just to cheap
to replace otherwise perfectly good tires.
--
Bob La Londe
CNC Molds N Stuff
On 11/13/2024 3:54 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
On 11/13/2024 2:15 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:
On Wed, 13 Nov 2024 13:29:54 -0700, Bob La Londe <none@none.com99>
wrote:
On 11/13/2024 12:44 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:Virtually every Michelin tire I have owned has had the sidewalls
"Bob La Londe" wrote in message news:vh2s43$2b5ip$1@dont-email.me... >>>>>
I think I mentioned it in another thread. Pickup trucks (classic bath >>>>> tub bed and std cab on a frame) are usually not very good unless they >>>>> have a load in the bed. A 2wd open diff pickup would not be my choice >>>>> either that being said from 2001-2017 all my new service trucks
were 2WD
with auto locking diffs. (Chevy work trucks) With the normal load of >>>>> tools, wire, and hardware they were "okay." I did not unload them
to go
hunting for instance. As long as I stuck to the main trails until I >>>>> bailed out to walk I didn't even think about it.
Of course tires make a big difference. When I ran trap lines back in >>>>> the 80s I used a Ford F150 2WD with stock diff and 31 x 10.5 tires.
With all my traps, coolers, and camp gear it did quite well. If I
remembered to air down all four) it was passable on most sand, but it >>>>> would still sink in bottomless sugar sand. I got it stuck a couple >>>>> times, but always got it out on my own. Sometimes it took all day, >>>>> but
that is the life of a wannabe professional outdoorsman. Okay, my
first
year I used a Plymouth Volare station wagon. LOL I think if it
had the
same tires it would have been better than the pickup.
Bob La Londe
------------------------------
Ramblers did well in the Baja 500.
That definitely applied to my Ranger in 2WD. It was better in 4WD.
If I
could get in somewhere with the bed empty I was sure to be able to get >>>>> out with a load of firewood. Only dirt bike skid recovery reflexes let >>>>> me drive the Ranger in 2WD on partly dry, partly icy pavement. A
particularly difficult icy commute home helped convince me to buy the >>>>> AWD CRV which was vastly better with (and good without) sticky
hydrophilic Michelin Arctic Alpine ice tires. A wet finger rubbed on >>>>> most tires slides, on the Michelins it grabs and squeaks.
Generally the only complaint I hear about Michelin tires is the price. >>>> When I picked up my new truck I was actually a little disappointed to
see it came with Michelin truck tires. Now I'll have to wait a few
years to wear them out so I can upgrade to some ATs. I'm just to cheap >>>> to replace otherwise perfectly good tires.
--
Bob La Londe
CNC Molds N Stuff
checker and crack long before the tread wore out - and that goes back
to early 1960s? Michelin X tires and up to my last xlts. I've never
wore one out - - - - and they have hardened up to the point they would
have made good "burnout tires" even on a 4 or 6 cyl vehicle.
Yes, they all lasted over 6 years - but on many that was less than
30000 KM. REALLY burns to have to throw away expensive rubber with
over 80% tread left!!!!!
Virtually all tires have one major weakness. They degrade with
exposure to the C02 in the air. Buna (neoprene) rubber o-rings too.
Buna-N, Viton, and silicone much less so.
I thought it was exposure to sunlight/UV that caused most of the
sidewall degradation ... or are those aftermarket tire covers (in
particular for RV's and campers) just another scam ?
On 11/13/2024 2:15 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:
On Wed, 13 Nov 2024 13:29:54 -0700, Bob La Londe <none@none.com99>
wrote:
On 11/13/2024 12:44 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:Virtually every Michelin tire I have owned has had the sidewalls
"Bob La Londe"á wrote in message news:vh2s43$2b5ip$1@dont-email.me...
I think I mentioned it in another thread.á Pickup trucks (classic bath >>>> tub bed and std cab on a frame) are usually not very good unless they
have a load in the bed.á A 2wd open diff pickup would not be my choice >>>> either that being said from 2001-2017 all my new service trucks were 2WD >>>> with auto locking diffs.á (Chevy work trucks)á With the normal load of >>>> tools, wire, and hardware they were "okay."á I did not unload them to go >>>> hunting for instance.á As long as I stuck to the main trails until I
bailed out to walk I didn't even think about it.
Of course tires make a big difference.á When I ran trap lines back in
the 80s I used a Ford F150 2WD with stock diff and 31 x 10.5 tires.
With all my traps, coolers, and camp gear it did quite well.á If I
remembered to air down all four) it was passable on most sand, but it
would still sink in bottomless sugar sand.á I got it stuck a couple
times, but always got it out on my own.á Sometimes it took all day, but >>>> that is the life of a wannabe professional outdoorsman.á Okay, my first >>>> year I used a Plymouth Volare station wagon.á LOLá I think if it had the >>>> same tires it would have been better than the pickup.
Bob La Londe
------------------------------
Ramblers did well in the Baja 500.
That definitely applied to my Ranger in 2WD. It was better in 4WD. If I >>>> could get in somewhere with the bed empty I was sure to be able to get >>>> out with a load of firewood. Only dirt bike skid recovery reflexes let >>>> me drive the Ranger in 2WD on partly dry, partly icy pavement. A
particularly difficult icy commute home helped convince me to buy the
AWD CRV which was vastly better with (and good without) sticky
hydrophilic Michelin Arctic Alpine ice tires. A wet finger rubbed on
most tires slides, on the Michelins it grabs and squeaks.
Generally the only complaint I hear about Michelin tires is the price.
When I picked up my new truck I was actually a little disappointed to
see it came with Michelin truck tires. Now I'll have to wait a few
years to wear them out so I can upgrade to some ATs. I'm just to cheap
to replace otherwise perfectly good tires.
--
Bob La Londe
CNC Molds N Stuff
checker and crack long before the tread wore out - and that goes back
to early 1960s? Michelin X tires and up to my last xlts. I've never
wore one out - - - - and they have hardened up to the point they would
have made good "burnout tires" even on a 4 or 6 cyl vehicle.
Yes, they all lasted over 6 years - but on many that was less than
30000 KM. REALLY burns to have to throw away expensive rubber with
over 80% tread left!!!!!
Virtually all tires have one major weakness. They degrade with exposure
to the C02 in the air. Buna (neoprene) rubber o-rings too. Buna-N,
Viton, and silicone much less so.
--I don't have the problem on my Nokians, didn't have on my Dunlops, or
Bob La Londe
CNC Molds N Stuff
On 11/13/2024 3:54 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:It's not Co2 - it's OZONE - which is produced by sunlight acting on
On 11/13/2024 2:15 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:
On Wed, 13 Nov 2024 13:29:54 -0700, Bob La Londe <none@none.com99>
wrote:
On 11/13/2024 12:44 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:Virtually every Michelin tire I have owned has had the sidewalls
"Bob La Londe"á wrote in message news:vh2s43$2b5ip$1@dont-email.me... >>>>>
I think I mentioned it in another thread.á Pickup trucks (classic bath >>>>> tub bed and std cab on a frame) are usually not very good unless they >>>>> have a load in the bed.á A 2wd open diff pickup would not be my choice >>>>> either that being said from 2001-2017 all my new service trucks were >>>>> 2WD
with auto locking diffs.á (Chevy work trucks)á With the normal load of >>>>> tools, wire, and hardware they were "okay."á I did not unload them
to go
hunting for instance.á As long as I stuck to the main trails until I >>>>> bailed out to walk I didn't even think about it.
Of course tires make a big difference.á When I ran trap lines back in >>>>> the 80s I used a Ford F150 2WD with stock diff and 31 x 10.5 tires.
With all my traps, coolers, and camp gear it did quite well.á If I
remembered to air down all four) it was passable on most sand, but it >>>>> would still sink in bottomless sugar sand.á I got it stuck a couple
times, but always got it out on my own.á Sometimes it took all day, but >>>>> that is the life of a wannabe professional outdoorsman.á Okay, my first >>>>> year I used a Plymouth Volare station wagon.á LOLá I think if it had >>>>> the
same tires it would have been better than the pickup.
Bob La Londe
------------------------------
Ramblers did well in the Baja 500.
That definitely applied to my Ranger in 2WD. It was better in 4WD. If I >>>>> could get in somewhere with the bed empty I was sure to be able to get >>>>> out with a load of firewood. Only dirt bike skid recovery reflexes let >>>>> me drive the Ranger in 2WD on partly dry, partly icy pavement. A
particularly difficult icy commute home helped convince me to buy the >>>>> AWD CRV which was vastly better with (and good without) sticky
hydrophilic Michelin Arctic Alpine ice tires. A wet finger rubbed on >>>>> most tires slides, on the Michelins it grabs and squeaks.
Generally the only complaint I hear about Michelin tires is the price. >>>> When I picked up my new truck I was actually a little disappointed to
see it came with Michelin truck tires.á Now I'll have to wait a few
years to wear them out so I can upgrade to some ATs.á I'm just to cheap >>>> to replace otherwise perfectly good tires.
--
Bob La Londe
CNC Molds N Stuff
checker and crack long before the tread wore out - and that goes back
to early 1960s? Michelin X tires and up to my last xlts. I've never
wore one out - - - - and they have hardened up to the point they would
have made good "burnout tires" even on a 4 or 6 cyl vehicle.
á Yes, they all lasted over 6 years - but on many that was less than
30000 KM. REALLY burns to have to throw away expensive rubber with
over 80% tread left!!!!!
Virtually all tires have one major weakness.á They degrade with exposure
to the C02 in the air.á Buna (neoprene) rubber o-rings too.á Buna-N,
Viton, and silicone much less so.
I thought it was exposure to sunlight/UV that caused most of the
sidewall degradation ... or are those aftermarket tire covers (in
particular for RV's and campers) just another scam ?
I thought it was exposure to sunlight/UV that caused most of theIt's usually the UV which does the damage, though ozone cracking can
sidewall degradation ... or are those aftermarket tire covers (in
particular for RV's and campers) just another scam ?