• 408 Stroker 351

    From Bob La Londe@21:1/5 to All on Sat Oct 26 15:53:30 2024
    Among the the things my dad left behind is an 82 Bronco that he reported
    was parked with low oil pressure. I talked with my mom and I am going
    to keep it (tentatively anyway).

    I picked up a book about boring and stroking those engines for a variety
    of applications. I was thinking since that 351W may need a crank kit
    anyway (maybe not, but that is a topic for another post) I might
    consider a nice "square bore" bore and stroke to 408 for gobs of mid
    range torque and to build a back up tow vehicle. I have towed with this vehicle before. Some pretty decent loads given its basically a 1/2 ton chassis.

    It turns out this sort of thing is so common for these small block Fords
    that there are a number of off the shelf kits for it. Pistons, rods,
    crank all packaged together. Its not cheap, but nowhere near as
    expensive as I would have thought either. There are bigger bore and
    stroke kits, but they are intended to run at higher RPMs. The "square
    bore" is a common term for high torque engines across multiple genre.
    In fact one of the common popular engines for load carrying Harley EVO
    baggers was a 100" square bore from S&S. I don't know if S&S still
    makes EVOs since they have their own v-Twin engine now, but that's not
    the point.

    My primary use will more likely be hunting and fishing in hard to reach locations where I don't want to tear up my F250. If it doubles as a
    backup tow rig well, then I can probably justify all the work.

    Anyway, if this is something you guys might be interested in I'll be
    happy to post more often about it if/when it gets started. I expect it
    will be a lot of work to restore to 100% functional having sat for 20+
    years, but there will likely be some metalworking.


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  • From Snag@21:1/5 to Bob La Londe on Sat Oct 26 19:41:52 2024
    On 10/26/2024 5:53 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
    Among the the things my dad left behind is an 82 Bronco that he reported
    was parked with low oil pressure.  I talked with my mom and I am going
    to keep it (tentatively anyway).

    I picked up a book about boring and stroking those engines for a variety
    of applications.  I was thinking since that 351W may need a crank kit
    anyway (maybe not, but that is a topic for another post) I might
    consider a nice "square bore" bore and stroke to 408 for gobs of mid
    range torque and to build a back up tow vehicle.  I have towed with this vehicle before.  Some pretty decent loads given its basically a 1/2 ton chassis.

    It turns out this sort of thing is so common for these small block Fords
    that there are a number of off the shelf kits for it.  Pistons, rods,
    crank all packaged together.  Its not cheap, but nowhere near as
    expensive as I would have thought either.  There are bigger bore and
    stroke kits, but they are intended to run at higher RPMs.  The "square
    bore" is a common term for high torque engines across multiple genre. In
    fact one of the common popular engines for load carrying Harley EVO
    baggers was a 100" square bore from S&S.  I don't know if S&S still
    makes EVOs since they have their own v-Twin engine now, but that's not
    the point.

    My primary use will more likely be hunting and fishing in hard to reach locations where I don't want to tear up my F250.  If it doubles as a
    backup tow rig well, then I can probably justify all the work.

    Anyway, if this is something you guys might be interested in I'll be
    happy to post more often about it if/when it gets started.  I expect it
    will be a lot of work to restore to 100% functional having sat for 20+
    years, but there will likely be some metalworking.



    There always is ... I'm contemplating installing body repair panels
    on my truck . Rocker panels are Swiss cheese as is the bed over the
    wheel wells and bottom rear corners . I seem to recall Jim posting about
    MIG welding in patches .
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  • From Bob La Londe@21:1/5 to Snag on Sat Oct 26 17:55:30 2024
    On 10/26/2024 5:41 PM, Snag wrote:
    On 10/26/2024 5:53 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
    Among the the things my dad left behind is an 82 Bronco that he
    reported was parked with low oil pressure.  I talked with my mom and I
    am going to keep it (tentatively anyway).

    I picked up a book about boring and stroking those engines for a
    variety of applications.  I was thinking since that 351W may need a
    crank kit anyway (maybe not, but that is a topic for another post) I
    might consider a nice "square bore" bore and stroke to 408 for gobs of
    mid range torque and to build a back up tow vehicle.  I have towed
    with this vehicle before.  Some pretty decent loads given its
    basically a 1/2 ton chassis.

    It turns out this sort of thing is so common for these small block
    Fords that there are a number of off the shelf kits for it.  Pistons,
    rods, crank all packaged together.  Its not cheap, but nowhere near as
    expensive as I would have thought either.  There are bigger bore and
    stroke kits, but they are intended to run at higher RPMs.  The "square
    bore" is a common term for high torque engines across multiple genre.
    In fact one of the common popular engines for load carrying Harley EVO
    baggers was a 100" square bore from S&S.  I don't know if S&S still
    makes EVOs since they have their own v-Twin engine now, but that's not
    the point.

    My primary use will more likely be hunting and fishing in hard to
    reach locations where I don't want to tear up my F250.  If it doubles
    as a backup tow rig well, then I can probably justify all the work.

    Anyway, if this is something you guys might be interested in I'll be
    happy to post more often about it if/when it gets started.  I expect
    it will be a lot of work to restore to 100% functional having sat for
    20+ years, but there will likely be some metalworking.



      There always is ... I'm contemplating installing body repair panels
    on my truck . Rocker panels are Swiss cheese  as is the bed over the
    wheel wells and bottom rear corners . I seem to recall Jim posting about
    MIG welding in patches .

    Tailgates on those Broncos tend to rust out because the drains get
    plugged with dust, window seals go bad, and any rain runs down the
    window into the door. This one is no exception. If I keep it that WILL
    get repaired one way or another. There is a "camper glass" conversion
    done on some of these that I will be looking into. First I'll have to
    figure out how to get the window down so I can open the tailgate.


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    CNC Molds N Stuff

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