• Re: "Metalwork" by othewras

    From Leon Fisk@21:1/5 to Bob La Londe on Sat Oct 5 14:06:28 2024
    On Sat, 5 Oct 2024 10:24:41 -0700
    Bob La Londe <none@none.com99> wrote:

    <snip>
    Lots of people I guess are more tolerant. They seem to get by in this
    screw and lie business climate.

    From my experience a lot of people don't know they're being screwed
    nowadays. And a lot of the workers don't know they are doing crappy
    work. The prior have been told not to mess with things, you need to be a trained expert and the latter think they are the expert because they've
    been trained but weren't really paying attention to any of it...

    --
    Leon Fisk
    Grand Rapids MI

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  • From Bob La Londe@21:1/5 to Snag on Sat Oct 5 10:24:41 2024
    On 10/4/2024 3:15 PM, Snag wrote:
      I dropped the axle from my '86 GMC pickup off at the shop yesterday . It's going in for "major surgery" ... The stock 2.73:1/standard
    differential gear set is being replaced with a set of 3.42's and a posi locker . I have apparently ventured a bit farther into the "high
    performance" realm than I meant to . Since I've got it tuned a bit
    better I've been having problems starting from a dead stop without the
    truck making screeching noises . I'm hoping the new stuff will improve
    that situation ...
      I'm also hoping the gas mileage improves . The motor build was
    optimized for 3.42 gears , I should be in a more efficient RPM band with
    the new gears . Which is also in the torque band , so my trans should
    have to shift gears less often .
      And as my neighbor told his wife when she asked what all this was for "better burnouts!" .


    How do you find "other people" you trust to do work for you. I've had
    absolute shit luck with that. It's the main reason I do so many
    different things myself.

    A plumber who leaves a shower dripping and says he'll come back the next
    day with the right stuff to fix the valve, and never comes back. A
    mechanic you ask specifically to do specific preventative repairs or do specific tests and those are the primary reason you brought work to
    them, and they just do a routine service and ignore what you brought it
    in for. A shop that says they'll check their schedule and call you back
    the next day to let you know when they can do some work, who then tries
    to gas light you and claim it was the other way around. Another shop
    that says you have to lift the bed of a truck to do a job (some jobs you
    do or its the easier way), and you have already researched and know they
    are just trying to juice the price. Another shop that takes your money
    and even after they have your money you have to ask them when it will be
    ready TWICE before they say it will be four months before they can get
    the item you ordered... you ask for your money back, order it yourself
    FROM THE MANUFACTURER, and have it delivered in less than two week from
    the opposite side of the country by truck... for less. A refrigeration
    tech who straight up lies and says that a refrigerant is no longer
    available, so you will need a whole new system, and then you have it
    delivered the next day ordered off eBay... When you call the reseller
    they let you know they can't make it anymore, but it will be decades
    before they run out.

    When I was a kid I lived 60 miles from town. We had a country store
    (and later split it into two stores) with just about everything.
    Groceries, fresh meat and produce, hardware, dry goods, guns, auto
    parts, tools, etc etc. We didn't learn to fix everything ourselves
    because we had a choice. We learned to fix everything ourselves because
    we couldn't even get somebody to come out. I learned basic electrical, construction, refrigeration, plumbing, and wrenching because if we
    didn't do it ourselves we wouldn't have light, shelter, cold food, a
    shower, and we would have to walk.

    Well I don't live 60 miles from town anymore, and there are multiple
    businesses "available." Generally I don't even dicker over price. I
    ask them how much and decide either I have that much or I don't. Last
    week I walked out of three shops just trying to get a gooseneck under
    bed turnover ball hitch installed in my new truck. Not one was because
    of price. One gas lit me claiming they didn't say what they said.
    Another straight up lied to me. The third said it was a piece of cake
    and then made it clear they had never installed a hitch on anything
    before and didn't have a clue how to do it. Yeah, I guess they lied to
    me too. In none of those cases do I trust them to do a good job. Its
    not that I can't do it. Its that I just don't want to. I've installed
    in bed hitch systems before. Its a bit of a pain (although this one
    "should" be easier) and I just don't want to.

    I had similar issues last year when trying to get a hitch installed on
    my wife's car for an electric scooter carrier. Its a lease so I really
    wanted to have a "professional" install it. Yeah, nope.

    I am so fucking tired. I have cash money. I just want to hire somebody
    to do a job right the first time. Whatever the job. I've spent my
    whole life doing things myself. When I was growing up because their was
    no who would do it and I had no choice, later because I didn't have the
    money to pay somebody, and now well because I don't have any choice
    again. One day I'm not going to be physically able to do it myself, and
    then I'll just be fucked.

    Now don't get me wrong. I've had a few businesses give me great
    service. Unfortunately with a large portion of them the instant I sing
    their praises they do something shitty. I like to reward good behavior
    and not reward bad behavior, but I'm afraid to post a positive review or
    make a recommendation anymore.

    Lots of people I guess are more tolerant. They seem to get by in this
    screw and lie business climate. I was raised in business and I would
    have gone to school the next day with purple welts on my ass if I
    treated a customer like I feel I am treated in many businesses around
    here.

    To be fair there is another issue. We do have a large part time
    blizzard chicken population and there is a distinct prejudice against
    snowbirds by many locals including local businesses who do not directly
    profit from the "tourist" trade. I have a grey beard and greying hair.
    I guess I may look like an annoying blizzard chicken to them. I'm not particularly vane about my looks, but I am tempted to die my hair and my
    beard to see if it makes a difference with some of them.

    Listen to me bitch and whine. Its just something to procrastinate for a
    couple minutes before I walk outside and drill a giant hole in the bed
    of my new truck. Actually I am getting prepped, but I have shop work
    for customers I have to do first. I'll probably install the hitch
    tomorrow. I hope.

    Oh, yeah. I sold my Jeep and my Silverado 2500 AFTER buying a new
    truck. Dealerships just suck. Took me 3 months to find the truck I
    wanted from a dealer that didn't just BALD FACED LIE about their
    advertised price, bait and switch on me, grossly undervalue trades,
    and/or grossly over value what they had. One dealer did all four of
    those. Several did more than one. One sent me a quote where the base
    price before extras was higher than the advertised price and the final
    price was nearly $10K more than that. They also advertised if I found a cheaper truck anywhere they would pay $1000. I'm not going to fight
    with them, but I bought a higher spec truck for less elsewhere. A lot
    less.

    Oh, yeah. I did have one really positive experience with a business
    this week. I need to replace the seals on two hydraulic cylinders on my
    front loader. I've done it myself before and they only lasted a year.
    I don't know if I did a crap job or if I got bad seals, but I did use
    OEM John Deere seals. None of the rods are nicked, scored , or pitted.
    I can't feel anything but slick oil. Its not cutting seals. I went
    into a local hydraulic shop and they listened, didn't put me down for
    doing it myself the first time said they would get on it in a couple
    days (open them up same day and order parts) and explained they don't
    keep a lot of seals in stock because they have a shelf life, and said
    that could be why my "new" seals failed. They could be old stock that
    have set on the shelf somewhere for years. I felt like I was someplace
    else. No bullshit, helpful, friendly, no judgement. I need to move a
    few things, and then this coming week I'll pull those cylinders and let
    them fix them

    --
    Bob La Londe
    CNC Molds N Stuff

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  • From Snag@21:1/5 to Bob La Londe on Sat Oct 5 15:46:42 2024
    On 10/5/2024 12:24 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
    On 10/4/2024 3:15 PM, Snag wrote:
       I dropped the axle from my '86 GMC pickup off at the shop yesterday
    . It's going in for "major surgery" ... The stock 2.73:1/standard
    differential gear set is being replaced with a set of 3.42's and a
    posi locker . I have apparently ventured a bit farther into the "high
    performance" realm than I meant to . Since I've got it tuned a bit
    better I've been having problems starting from a dead stop without the
    truck making screeching noises . I'm hoping the new stuff will improve
    that situation ...
       I'm also hoping the gas mileage improves . The motor build was
    optimized for 3.42 gears , I should be in a more efficient RPM band
    with the new gears . Which is also in the torque band , so my trans
    should have to shift gears less often .
       And as my neighbor told his wife when she asked what all this was
    for "better burnouts!" .


    How do you find "other people" you trust to do work for you.  I've had absolute shit luck with that.  It's the main reason I do so many
    different things myself.

    Actually it's very rare for me to hire work out and I can count on
    one hand the ones I trust . I hired someone local to swap the motor in
    my 4Runner because it was just more work than I wanted to do out in the
    yard . I've got the axle in the shop because Patrick has done several
    and is equipped to do that . I have the tools but not the experience .
    In both cases the work was done by someone I know and trust . The shop
    that did my motor is my neighbor's brother in law and I've had him do
    other work - the transmission for my truck for one . The guy re-gearing
    my axle used to live across the road from me , I've seen and admired
    his work - 5.0 Ford V8's that spin 12,000 RPM and live to tell it for
    instance .

    --
    Snag
    Voting for Kamabla after Biden
    is like changing your shirt because
    you shit your pants .

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  • From Snag@21:1/5 to All on Fri Oct 4 17:15:14 2024
    I dropped the axle from my '86 GMC pickup off at the shop yesterday .
    It's going in for "major surgery" ... The stock 2.73:1/standard
    differential gear set is being replaced with a set of 3.42's and a posi
    locker . I have apparently ventured a bit farther into the "high
    performance" realm than I meant to . Since I've got it tuned a bit
    better I've been having problems starting from a dead stop without the
    truck making screeching noises . I'm hoping the new stuff will improve
    that situation ...
    I'm also hoping the gas mileage improves . The motor build was
    optimized for 3.42 gears , I should be in a more efficient RPM band with
    the new gears . Which is also in the torque band , so my trans should
    have to shift gears less often .
    And as my neighbor told his wife when she asked what all this was for "better burnouts!" .
    --
    Snag
    Voting for Kamabla after Biden
    is like changing your shirt because
    you shit your pants .

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