• Re: yardsalin' again

    From Bob La Londe@21:1/5 to Jim Wilkins on Sat Sep 7 09:43:34 2024
    On 9/7/2024 5:08 AM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
    "Snag"  wrote in message news:vbgc4r$15175$1@dont-email.me...

    On 9/6/2024 8:07 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
    I read somewhere that chuck backplates for threaded spindle lathes
    should be soft cast iron instead of steel to minimize spindle thread wear. ----------------
      A piece of cast that size is a good bit more expensive ... if I could find one .
    Snag
    ---------------------------------
    Gym weights?

    A dumbbell became the ball pivot feet of my hoisting shear legs. The
    iron cut easily enough without annealing in the wood stove. I judge cast iron's condition by the chips, compared to known-good pieces like
    backplates. The worst crumbly cast iron I've machined was the head of a Duracraft drill press. Pipe fittings have mostly been pretty good, as
    was my second-hand (self-annealed) Taiwan wood stove to which I added a
    small window.

    http://www.chaski.org/homemachinist/viewtopic.php?t=102818

    https://www.slfcastings.com/heat-treatment/

    I turned 1-1/2 - 8 and 2-1/4 - 8 dummy spindle ends that fit my Bison
    chucks closely to use as Go gauges, and to take on treasure hunts to
    check sizes instead of trying to measure or guess between 2-1/4 - 8 or
    2-3/16 - 10. The 2-1/4 - 8 stub was a scrap of 2" water pipe. The 1-1/2
    - 8 stub has a 1.00" shank to mount a Jacobs 58B chuck in a collet.



    Gym weights is a commonly suggest alternative, but there have been
    plenty of reports of voids, and hard spots as its the cheapest cast they
    can get to stay together. If they are free and you are bored it makes a
    nice Saturday afternoon project, but I wouldn't go seek them out.


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  • From Bob La Londe@21:1/5 to Jim Wilkins on Sat Sep 7 09:41:49 2024
    On 9/6/2024 5:41 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
    "Bob La Londe"  wrote in message news:vbfsur$vcb3$1@dont-email.me...

    You have a back plate that fits into a 5C spindle?  I have a lathe with
    a 5C native spindle.  Maybe we could horse trade... if I had a horse.
    Bob La Londe
    ---------------------------------------
    LMS sells them, 5478 and 5479, listed with 5C instead of backplates. https://littlemachineshop.com/products/product_view.php?ProductID=5478&category=

    A 5C fixture mount can be an unfinished custom backplate.


    Push comes to shove I'd rather trade with Snag than Shars, but he does
    say his needs some clean up. I have nothing against Shar's. I just
    like Snag better.


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  • From Snag@21:1/5 to Bob La Londe on Sat Sep 7 13:56:25 2024
    On 9/7/2024 11:41 AM, Bob La Londe wrote:
    On 9/6/2024 5:41 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
    "Bob La Londe"  wrote in message news:vbfsur$vcb3$1@dont-email.me...

    You have a back plate that fits into a 5C spindle?  I have a lathe with
    a 5C native spindle.  Maybe we could horse trade... if I had a horse.
    Bob La Londe
    ---------------------------------------
    LMS sells them, 5478 and 5479, listed with 5C instead of backplates.
    https://littlemachineshop.com/products/product_view.php?ProductID=5478&category=


    A 5C fixture mount can be an unfinished custom backplate.


    Push comes to shove I'd rather trade with Snag than Shars, but he does
    say his needs some clean up.  I have nothing against Shar's.  I just
    like Snag better.



    Actually it's just a couple of very minor dings on the threads .
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  • From Snag@21:1/5 to Jim Wilkins on Sat Sep 7 20:25:30 2024
    On 9/7/2024 4:45 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
    "Bob La Londe"  wrote in message news:vbhvrl$1egij$2@dont-email.me...

    Gym weights is a commonly suggest alternative, but there have been
    plenty of reports of voids, and hard spots as its the cheapest cast they
    can get to stay together.  If they are free and you are bored it makes a nice Saturday afternoon project, but I wouldn't go seek them out.

    Bob La Londe
    ----------------------------------
    Having a wood stove to anneal it and using HSS lathe bits and endmills
    that I can resharpen lets me risk mystery metal. My lathe chucks are all
    on purchased backplates, though I'd consider gym weight iron for a slow moving rotary table chuck adapter.


    Where does one come across those weights ? I've seen a few of the
    sand filled injection molded plastic units at yard sales , haven't run
    across any CI units . I come across projects where a chunk of cast would
    be a better choice than mild or stainless or whatever I have on hand .
    My RT chuck adapter is made from a scrap aluminum lost foam casting .
    It's been a couple of thou off center since the day I mounted it 20
    something years ago . But since I only use the 4 jaw chuck on it it
    doesn't really matter .
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  • From Leon Fisk@21:1/5 to Snag on Sun Sep 8 08:09:06 2024
    On Sat, 7 Sep 2024 20:25:30 -0500
    Snag <Snag_one@msn.com> wrote:

    Where does one come across those weights ?

    I'd watch Craigs list and be very patient. Example search for my
    general area:

    https://grandrapids.craigslist.org/search/sss?query=barbell%20weights#search=1~gallery~0~0

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    Grand Rapids MI

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  • From Snag@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 6 14:44:13 2024
    This time the Big Score is a 3 inch 3 jaw chuck on a 5c collet back
    plate with 3 sets of jaw (all fit) for the princely sum of 10 bucks . A
    piece of material for a 1 1/2-8 back plate will probably cost more than
    the chuck . Also got a couple of open/reversible ratchet shorty wrenches
    for a buck each .
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  • From Snag@21:1/5 to Snag on Fri Sep 6 15:19:35 2024
    On 9/6/2024 2:44 PM, Snag wrote:
      This time the Big Score is a 3 inch 3 jaw chuck on a 5c collet back
    plate with 3 sets of jaw (all fit) for the princely sum of 10 bucks . A
    piece of material for a 1 1/2-8 back plate will probably cost more than
    the chuck . Also got a couple of open/reversible ratchet shorty wrenches
    for a buck each .

    As expected , a piece of 1045 jut the right size set me back $17.50 .
    A fully machined back plate would be over 50 bucks ...
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  • From Bob La Londe@21:1/5 to Snag on Fri Sep 6 14:41:47 2024
    On 9/6/2024 1:19 PM, Snag wrote:
    On 9/6/2024 2:44 PM, Snag wrote:
       This time the Big Score is a 3 inch 3 jaw chuck on a 5c collet back
    plate with 3 sets of jaw (all fit) for the princely sum of 10 bucks .
    A piece of material for a 1 1/2-8 back plate will probably cost more
    than the chuck . Also got a couple of open/reversible ratchet shorty
    wrenches for a buck each .

      As expected , a piece of 1045 jut the right size set me back $17.50 .
    A fully machined back plate would be over 50 bucks ...

    You have a back plate that fits into a 5C spindle? I have a lathe with
    a 5C native spindle. Maybe we could horse trade... if I had a horse.



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    CNC Molds N Stuff


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  • From David Billington@21:1/5 to Snag on Fri Sep 6 23:28:06 2024
    On 06/09/2024 20:44, Snag wrote:
    This time the Big Score is a 3 inch 3 jaw chuck on a 5c collet back
    plate with 3 sets of jaw (all fit) for the princely sum of 10 bucks .
    A piece of material for a 1 1/2-8 back plate will probably cost more
    than the chuck . Also got a couple of open/reversible ratchet shorty
    wrenches for a buck each .

    I bought one of those and it has proved fairly handy but I found as
    supplied it had quite a bit of run-out and the chuck wasn't square. I
    separated the chuck from the 5C backplate and found that was badly
    machined but once correctly machined it now runs quite true for a cheap
    chuck.

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  • From Snag@21:1/5 to Bob La Londe on Fri Sep 6 18:10:29 2024
    On 9/6/2024 4:41 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
    On 9/6/2024 1:19 PM, Snag wrote:
    On 9/6/2024 2:44 PM, Snag wrote:
       This time the Big Score is a 3 inch 3 jaw chuck on a 5c collet
    back plate with 3 sets of jaw (all fit) for the princely sum of 10
    bucks . A piece of material for a 1 1/2-8 back plate will probably
    cost more than the chuck . Also got a couple of open/reversible
    ratchet shorty wrenches for a buck each .

       As expected , a piece of 1045 jut the right size set me back $17.50
    . A fully machined back plate would be over 50 bucks ...

    You have a back plate that fits into a 5C spindle?  I have a lathe with
    a 5C native spindle.  Maybe we could horse trade... if I had a horse.




    I don't really need a horse anyway ... but then I don't really need
    this back plate either . The threads on the outside are a little banged
    up , nothing a tricorner needle file won't clean up . I can't think of
    anything offhand that I need or want ...
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    Snag
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  • From Snag@21:1/5 to Jim Wilkins on Fri Sep 6 21:00:58 2024
    On 9/6/2024 8:07 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
    "Snag"  wrote in message news:vbfo4k$uov3$1@dont-email.me...

    On 9/6/2024 2:44 PM, Snag wrote:
       This time the Big Score is a 3 inch 3 jaw chuck on a 5c collet back
    plate with 3 sets of jaw (all fit) for the princely sum of 10 bucks .
    A piece of material for a 1 1/2-8 back plate will probably cost more
    than the chuck . Also got a couple of open/reversible ratchet shorty
    wrenches for a buck each .

      As expected , a piece of 1045 jut the right size set me back $17.50 .
    A fully machined back plate would be over 50 bucks ...----------------

    I read somewhere that chuck backplates for threaded spindle lathes
    should be soft cast iron instead of steel to minimize spindle thread wear. ----------------
    A piece of cast that size is a good bit more expensive ... if I could
    find one .
    --
    Snag
    Voting for Kamabla after Biden
    is like changing your shirt because
    you shit your pants .

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