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On Thu, 12 Jun 2025 08:25:25 -0400, shawn
<nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jun 2025 08:47:48 +0000, BTR1701 <no_email@invalid.invalid>
wrote:
shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jun 2025 05:12:50 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
wrote:
On Jun 11, 2025 at 9:38:54 PM PDT, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com> >>>>> wrote:1) It's very clear that what was going on in Los Angeles is hyper
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
How weird is it that one of the main Dem criticisms of Trump on Jan6 is that
he refused to call in the national guard to put down the insurrection >>>>>>> and how
that makes him culpable for what the rioters did. But now that he *has*
called
in the national guard to put down an insurrection, those same Dems say it's
needlessly provocative and only makes the situation worse.
Which is it? Is calling the national guard appropriate to stop a riot or
inappropriate? Pick a lane, lefties.
Washington D.C. is a federal enclave. The mayor is not the equivalent of
a governor and does not have command of a National Guard unit. Whenever >>>>>> they need the Guard, they make the request to the president.
That's not the case in California.
Regardless, the Dem position was that the riot at the Capitol was serious
enough to warrant deploying the guard. If *that* riot was serious
enough, then
this one certainly is, so calling in the guard would be appropriate and >>>>> if the
governor and mayor won't, then it's falls to the president to do so. >>>>
localized.
And the Jan6 riot wasn't? It literally was contained to one city block. You >>> can't get more localized than that.
As for L.A, don't be ridiculous. Violence has broken out from downtown to >>> Paramount to Compton and all the way up in Duarte.
Between the two, it was Jan6 that was by far the most hyper-localized and >>> yet that was the one for which the Dems were united in insisting that the >>> Guard should have been mobilized.
Um I know you understand the difference between random businesses
being attacked and an attack on the nation's capitol. Of course people
would be calling for as much enforcement as possible to protect the
capitol.
Laughter.
Being escorted around by the police through the building is somehow comparable to burning down businesses, homes and openly violent
rioting....
I wonder what would happen if a bunch of 'undocumented' Americans all
swarmed the Plaza de la Constituci≤n in Mexico City, waving American flags >and setting cars on fire and hurling rocks at the heads of cops. How long
do you think the Mexican government would put up with that before putting >those Americans down hard?
On Mon, 09 Jun 2025 22:50:35 -0700, The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca>
wrote:
On Mon, 9 Jun 2025 19:27:13 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
wrote:
Were these the same 'reports' that told you everything was 'mostly peaceful',
Dimensional? The crowd sizes were a helluva lot further north than 100.
https://ibb.co/HDVhqC0s
Unless the scenes I saw were from somewhere outside the United States,
what I saw wasn't peaceful at all.
Then you weren't looking very hard. Yes, there were protests that
weren't peaceful, but there were also protests going on with large
numbers of people that were completely peaceful. Though the violence
is what is always going to get covered the most.
On Thu, 12 Jun 2025 08:47:48 +0000, BTR1701 <no_email@invalid.invalid>
wrote:
shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jun 2025 05:12:50 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>I wouldn't trust Karen Bass to manage an emergency if she was last person
wrote:
on earth. Through a mixture of incompetence and gross negligence she stood >> by and let the city burn in January and she's standing by and allowing
criminals to run free now. Of course she said the Guard wasn't necessary.
I can't comment on that as I have zero idea of how capable she is.
On Jun 12, 2025 at 5:25:25 AM PDT, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> >wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jun 2025 08:47:48 +0000, BTR1701 <no_email@invalid.invalid>
wrote:
shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:I can't comment on that as I have zero idea of how capable she is.
On Thu, 12 Jun 2025 05:12:50 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>I wouldn't trust Karen Bass to manage an emergency if she was last person >>> on earth. Through a mixture of incompetence and gross negligence she stood >>> by and let the city burn in January and she's standing by and allowing
wrote:
criminals to run free now. Of course she said the Guard wasn't necessary. >>
Well, here's something that might illustrate the extent of her stunning >incompetence for you:
As I'm sure you know, in January we had a disaster, where two entire cities >burned to their foundations in a firestorm of historic proportions. It has >since come to light that one of the most significant reasons it occurred was >because Karen Bass had funded the fire department at literally half the >required strength in terms of personnel and resources that a city this size >needs.
And now, here in June, when it's time for the mayor to send the city's budget >up, rather than learn anything from the godawful and stunningly negligent >mistakes of the past, she's slashed the budget of the fire department EVEN >FURTHER. And she cut 45% of the jobs in the city's Department of Emergency >Management. And after two weeks of violent rioting, she decided to defund the >police even further, also. (A city the size of Los Angeles needs 10,000 >officers. We're currently at 8,500 and by the time the Olympics roll around, >we'll be down to 7,900 under Karen's budget.)
Obviously this woman isn't intelligent enough to manage a Starbucks, let alone >the nation's second-largest city.
On Wed, 18 Jun 2025 03:35:36 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
wrote:
On Jun 12, 2025 at 5:25:25 AM PDT, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> >> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jun 2025 08:47:48 +0000, BTR1701 <no_email@invalid.invalid>
wrote:
shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:I can't comment on that as I have zero idea of how capable she is.
On Thu, 12 Jun 2025 05:12:50 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> >>>>> wrote:I wouldn't trust Karen Bass to manage an emergency if she was last person >>>> on earth. Through a mixture of incompetence and gross negligence she stood
by and let the city burn in January and she's standing by and allowing >>>> criminals to run free now. Of course she said the Guard wasn't necessary. >>>
Well, here's something that might illustrate the extent of her stunning
incompetence for you:
As I'm sure you know, in January we had a disaster, where two entire cities >> burned to their foundations in a firestorm of historic proportions. It has >> since come to light that one of the most significant reasons it occurred was >> because Karen Bass had funded the fire department at literally half the
required strength in terms of personnel and resources that a city this size >> needs.
And now, here in June, when it's time for the mayor to send the city's budget
up, rather than learn anything from the godawful and stunningly negligent
mistakes of the past, she's slashed the budget of the fire department EVEN >> FURTHER. And she cut 45% of the jobs in the city's Department of Emergency >> Management. And after two weeks of violent rioting, she decided to defund the
police even further, also. (A city the size of Los Angeles needs 10,000
officers. We're currently at 8,500 and by the time the Olympics roll around, >> we'll be down to 7,900 under Karen's budget.)
Obviously this woman isn't intelligent enough to manage a Starbucks, let
alone
the nation's second-largest city.
Though maybe the problem isn't her, but the voters that thought she
was the best option.
On Wed, 18 Jun 2025 03:35:36 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
wrote:
On Jun 12, 2025 at 5:25:25 AM PDT, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> >> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jun 2025 08:47:48 +0000, BTR1701 <no_email@invalid.invalid>
wrote:
shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:I can't comment on that as I have zero idea of how capable she is.
On Thu, 12 Jun 2025 05:12:50 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> >>>>> wrote:I wouldn't trust Karen Bass to manage an emergency if she was last person >>>> on earth. Through a mixture of incompetence and gross negligence she stood >>>> by and let the city burn in January and she's standing by and allowing >>>> criminals to run free now. Of course she said the Guard wasn't necessary. >>>
Well, here's something that might illustrate the extent of her stunning
incompetence for you:
As I'm sure you know, in January we had a disaster, where two entire cities >> burned to their foundations in a firestorm of historic proportions. It has >> since come to light that one of the most significant reasons it occurred was >> because Karen Bass had funded the fire department at literally half the
required strength in terms of personnel and resources that a city this size >> needs.
And now, here in June, when it's time for the mayor to send the city's budget
up, rather than learn anything from the godawful and stunningly negligent
mistakes of the past, she's slashed the budget of the fire department EVEN >> FURTHER. And she cut 45% of the jobs in the city's Department of Emergency >> Management. And after two weeks of violent rioting, she decided to defund the
police even further, also. (A city the size of Los Angeles needs 10,000
officers. We're currently at 8,500 and by the time the Olympics roll around, >> we'll be down to 7,900 under Karen's budget.)
Obviously this woman isn't intelligent enough to manage a Starbucks, let alone
the nation's second-largest city.
Though maybe the problem isn't her, but the voters that thought she
was the best option.
On 6/17/2025 11:21 PM, shawn wrote:
On Wed, 18 Jun 2025 03:35:36 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote: >>> On Jun 12, 2025 at 5:25:25 AM PDT, "shawn" <nanoflower@gmail.com> wrote:
I can't comment on that as I have zero idea of how capable she is.
Well, here's something that might illustrate the extent of her stunning
incompetence for you:
As I'm sure you know, in January we had a disaster, where two entire cities >>> burned to their foundations in a firestorm of historic proportions. It has >>> since come to light that one of the most significant reasons it occurred was
because Karen Bass had funded the fire department at literally half the
required strength in terms of personnel and resources that a city this size >>> needs.
And now, here in June, when it's time for the mayor to send the city's budget
up, rather than learn anything from the godawful and stunningly negligent >>> mistakes of the past, she's slashed the budget of the fire department EVEN >>> FURTHER. And she cut 45% of the jobs in the city's Department of Emergency >>> Management. And after two weeks of violent rioting, she decided to defund the
police even further, also. (A city the size of Los Angeles needs 10,000
officers. We're currently at 8,500 and by the time the Olympics roll around,
we'll be down to 7,900 under Karen's budget.)
Obviously this woman isn't intelligent enough to manage a Starbucks, let alone
the nation's second-largest city.
Though maybe the problem isn't her, but the voters that thought she
was the best option.
Or the Federal government ending various funding programs that help pay
for things like police and fire service?
On 6/17/2025 11:21 PM, shawn wrote:
On Wed, 18 Jun 2025 03:35:36 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
wrote:
On Jun 12, 2025 at 5:25:25 AM PDT, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jun 2025 08:47:48 +0000, BTR1701 <no_email@invalid.invalid> >>>> wrote:
shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jun 2025 05:12:50 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> >>>>>> wrote:I wouldn't trust Karen Bass to manage an emergency if she was last person
on earth. Through a mixture of incompetence and gross negligence she stood
by and let the city burn in January and she's standing by and allowing >>>>> criminals to run free now. Of course she said the Guard wasn't necessary.
I can't comment on that as I have zero idea of how capable she is.
Well, here's something that might illustrate the extent of her stunning >>> incompetence for you:
As I'm sure you know, in January we had a disaster, where two entire cities
burned to their foundations in a firestorm of historic proportions. It has >>> since come to light that one of the most significant reasons it occurred was
because Karen Bass had funded the fire department at literally half the >>> required strength in terms of personnel and resources that a city this size
needs.
And now, here in June, when it's time for the mayor to send the city's
budget
up, rather than learn anything from the godawful and stunningly negligent >>> mistakes of the past, she's slashed the budget of the fire department EVEN >>> FURTHER. And she cut 45% of the jobs in the city's Department of Emergency >>> Management. And after two weeks of violent rioting, she decided to defund >>> the
police even further, also. (A city the size of Los Angeles needs 10,000 >>> officers. We're currently at 8,500 and by the time the Olympics roll around,
we'll be down to 7,900 under Karen's budget.)
Obviously this woman isn't intelligent enough to manage a Starbucks, let >>> alone
the nation's second-largest city.
Though maybe the problem isn't her, but the voters that thought she
was the best option.
Or the Federal government ending various funding programs that help pay
for things like police and fire service?