Subject: NY politocos inking up some new Asterisks

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Date: 17 May 2025 13:28:22 -0400
From: New York Daily News <nydailynews@nws.nydailynews.com>
Reply-To: noreply@email.tribpub.com
Subject: N.Y. bill would outlaw sharing of online blueprints for machine gun
conversion kits: DA Bragg

N.Y. BILL WOULD OUTLAW SHARING OF ONLINE BLUEPRINTS FOR MACHINE GUN
CONVERSION KITS: DA BRAGG

Officials are working to clamp down on illegal guns by outlawing the
sharing of digital blueprints that allow people to 3D print components
that turn semi-automatic firearms into machine guns.

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On Sun, 18 May 2025 00:00:24 +0000, danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com>
wrote:

Subject: NY politocos inking up some new Asterisks

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Date: 17 May 2025 13:28:22 -0400
From: New York Daily News <nydailynews@nws.nydailynews.com>
Reply-To: noreply@email.tribpub.com
Subject: N.Y. bill would outlaw sharing of online blueprints for machine gun
conversion kits: DA Bragg

N.Y. BILL WOULD OUTLAW SHARING OF ONLINE BLUEPRINTS FOR MACHINE GUN >CONVERSION KITS: DA BRAGG

Officials are working to clamp down on illegal guns by outlawing the
sharing of digital blueprints that allow people to 3D print components
that turn semi-automatic firearms into machine guns.

Okay, lets say this goes through. Now anyone living in NY can't share blueprints for machine gun conversion kits online with anyone else. If
you live in NJ you can share those same blueprints with anyone
including people living in NY. The same goes for anyone in any other
state or country. So I'm at a loss as to what the point of this bill
is, other than to say they don't like people having machine gun
conversion kit blueprints.

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On May 17, 2025 at 5:00:24 PM PDT, "danny burstein" <dannyb@panix.com> wrote:

Subject: NY politocos inking up some new Asterisks

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Date: 17 May 2025 13:28:22 -0400
From: New York Daily News <nydailynews@nws.nydailynews.com>
Reply-To: noreply@email.tribpub.com
Subject: N.Y. bill would outlaw sharing of online blueprints for machine gun
conversion kits: DA Bragg

N.Y. BILL WOULD OUTLAW SHARING OF ONLINE BLUEPRINTS FOR MACHINE GUN CONVERSION KITS: DA BRAGG

Officials are working to clamp down on illegal guns by outlawing the
sharing of digital blueprints that allow people to 3D print components
that turn semi-automatic firearms into machine guns.

(1) How is that not a bright-line violation of the 1st Amendment? It doesn't meet any of the exceptions-- obscenity, etc.-- it's literally content-based government censorship of speech which the Supreme Court has said is a no-no
for 200+ years.

(2) How could they possibly enforce it? Living in California, I'm not subject to New York's law, so if I put up a website with these digital files, they can't do shit to me, but anyone from New York can access them if they want
to.

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On 2025-05-18 00:39:24 +0000, shawn said:

On Sun, 18 May 2025 00:00:24 +0000, danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com>
wrote:

Subject: NY politocos inking up some new Asterisks

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Date: 17 May 2025 13:28:22 -0400
From: New York Daily News <nydailynews@nws.nydailynews.com>
Reply-To: noreply@email.tribpub.com
Subject: N.Y. bill would outlaw sharing of online blueprints for machine gun >> conversion kits: DA Bragg

N.Y. BILL WOULD OUTLAW SHARING OF ONLINE BLUEPRINTS FOR MACHINE GUN
CONVERSION KITS: DA BRAGG

Officials are working to clamp down on illegal guns by outlawing the
sharing of digital blueprints that allow people to 3D print components
that turn semi-automatic firearms into machine guns.

Okay, lets say this goes through. Now anyone living in NY can't share blueprints for machine gun conversion kits online with anyone else. If
you live in NJ you can share those same blueprints with anyone
including people living in NY. The same goes for anyone in any other
state or country. So I'm at a loss as to what the point of this bill
is, other than to say they don't like people having machine gun
conversion kit blueprints.

It is already illegal to own a machine gun in the USA, so by all common
sense it should be illegal to own anything that has been converted into
a machine gun as well ... unfortunately, the law is an ass and can't
decided whether such converted guns are actually illegal or not. Trump
the Chump and his moronic cronies even want to make it legal to sell
conversion kits. :-\

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BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

On May 17, 2025 at 5:00:24 PM PDT, "danny burstein" <dannyb@panix.com> wrote:

Subject: NY politocos inking up some new Asterisks

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: 17 May 2025 13:28:22 -0400
From: New York Daily News <nydailynews@nws.nydailynews.com>
Reply-To: noreply@email.tribpub.com
Subject: N.Y. bill would outlaw sharing of online blueprints for machine gun >> conversion kits: DA Bragg

N.Y. BILL WOULD OUTLAW SHARING OF ONLINE BLUEPRINTS FOR MACHINE GUN
CONVERSION KITS: DA BRAGG

Officials are working to clamp down on illegal guns by outlawing the
sharing of digital blueprints that allow people to 3D print components
that turn semi-automatic firearms into machine guns.

(1) How is that not a bright-line violation of the 1st Amendment? It doesn't >meet any of the exceptions-- obscenity, etc.-- it's literally content-based >government censorship of speech which the Supreme Court has said is a no-no >for 200+ years.

(2) How could they possibly enforce it? Living in California, I'm not subject >to New York's law, so if I put up a website with these digital files, they >can't do shit to me, but anyone from New York can access them if they want >to.

Like China, all telecommunications out of state will be cut off. For the
good of the people.

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On May 17, 2025 at 8:02:28 PM PDT, "Your Name" <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

On 2025-05-18 00:39:24 +0000, shawn said:

On Sun, 18 May 2025 00:00:24 +0000, danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com>
wrote:

Subject: NY politocos inking up some new Asterisks

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: 17 May 2025 13:28:22 -0400
From: New York Daily News <nydailynews@nws.nydailynews.com>
Reply-To: noreply@email.tribpub.com
Subject: N.Y. bill would outlaw sharing of online blueprints for machine gun
conversion kits: DA Bragg

N.Y. BILL WOULD OUTLAW SHARING OF ONLINE BLUEPRINTS FOR MACHINE GUN
CONVERSION KITS: DA BRAGG

Officials are working to clamp down on illegal guns by outlawing the
sharing of digital blueprints that allow people to 3D print components
that turn semi-automatic firearms into machine guns.

Okay, lets say this goes through. Now anyone living in NY can't share
blueprints for machine gun conversion kits online with anyone else. If
you live in NJ you can share those same blueprints with anyone
including people living in NY. The same goes for anyone in any other
state or country. So I'm at a loss as to what the point of this bill
is, other than to say they don't like people having machine gun
conversion kit blueprints.

It is already illegal to own a machine gun in the USA

No, it's not. They're just highly regulated. You have to apply for a federal permit through BATF and then pay all sorts of taxes and fees and let them do a deep dive into your background. The whole process takes around a year to complete.

so by all common sense it should be illegal to own anything that has been converted into
a machine gun as well

Except a FRT doesn't convert anything into a machine gun. The rifle still
fires just one round per trigger pull.

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