• The Saga of Gates McMuffin

    From BTR1701@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 12 22:00:50 2025
    Came across this explainer of why Dr. Crusher left the show, then later returned:

    Gates McFadden revealed during a convention appearance that a producer (she refused to identify him, but it was eventually revealed to be Maurice Hurley) gave Gene Roddenberry an ultimatum: 'She goes or I go.' It was a choice
    between losing an actor or going up against the studio like he did in the
    '60s, and Roddenberry just wasn't in the condition to do that any more.

    Incidentally, it wasn't entirely McFadden that caught Hurley's ire. Hurley was brought on by Roddenberry's lawyer, Leonard Maizlish (who was himself thoroughly despised by almost everyone involved with the series); Maizlish had no authority at all to hire or fire anyone, but the studio did very little to rein him in, even when Maizlish deliberately violated Writer's Guild rules by re-writing scripts.

    As for Hurley, he'd had no previous science fiction experience, was openly disdainful of Gene's optimistic view of the future, and clashed regularly with almost everyone. It was a series of contentious arguments with Gene
    Roddenberry himself that led Hurley to leave the show at the end of the second season.

    Diana Muldaur's attempt to recreate Spock and McCoy's famous verbal jousting
    by arguing with Data just made Pulaski look prejudiced and mean-spirited, so once Hurley was gone, Rick Berman personally invited McFadden back to the
    show.

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  • From anim8rfsk@21:1/5 to atropos@mac.com on Mon May 12 17:09:02 2025
    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
    Came across this explainer of why Dr. Crusher left the show, then later returned:

    Gates McFadden revealed

    Not that there’s any reason to believe anything she said

    during a convention appearance that a producer (she
    refused to identify him, but it was eventually revealed to be Maurice Hurley) gave Gene Roddenberry an ultimatum: 'She goes or I go.' It was a choice between losing an actor or going up against the studio like he did in the '60s, and Roddenberry just wasn't in the condition to do that any more.


    Let’s not forget that McMuffin is a terrible actress not only just with the words, but with the technical stuff. Watch how often she starts talking
    before she hits the communicator badge and they have to put in the beep
    noise while she’s just waving her hands in the air. By all accounts, she’s also a completely wretched human being, as well as a horrible convention speaker.


    Incidentally, it wasn't entirely McFadden that caught Hurley's ire. Hurley was
    brought on by Roddenberry's lawyer, Leonard Maizlish (who was himself thoroughly despised by almost everyone involved with the series); Maizlish had
    no authority at all to hire or fire anyone, but the studio did very little to rein him in, even when Maizlish deliberately violated Writer's Guild rules by re-writing scripts.

    As for Hurley, he'd had no previous science fiction experience, was openly disdainful of Gene's optimistic view of the future, and clashed regularly with
    almost everyone. It was a series of contentious arguments with Gene Roddenberry himself that led Hurley to leave the show at the end of the second
    season.

    Diana Muldaur's attempt to recreate Spock and McCoy's famous verbal jousting by arguing with Data just made Pulaski look prejudiced and mean-spirited, so once Hurley was gone, Rick Berman personally invited McFadden back to the show.

    Patrick Stewart takes credit for that, but then there’s no reason to
    believe a word he says about anything either.

    It was terrible that they made Pulaski be mean to Data. Her character could never recover from that. And then one day the turbo lift wasn’t there, and she walked into the shaft…



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  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to anim8rfsk@cox.net on Tue May 13 03:50:00 2025
    On May 12, 2025 at 5:09:02 PM PDT, "anim8rfsk" <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
    Came across this explainer of why Dr. Crusher left the show, then later
    returned:

    Gates McFadden revealed

    Not that there’s any reason to believe anything she said

    during a convention appearance that a producer (she
    refused to identify him, but it was eventually revealed to be Maurice
    Hurley)
    gave Gene Roddenberry an ultimatum: 'She goes or I go.' It was a choice
    between losing an actor or going up against the studio like he did in the >> '60s, and Roddenberry just wasn't in the condition to do that any more.


    Let’s not forget that McMuffin is a terrible actress not only just with the words, but with the technical stuff. Watch how often she starts talking before she hits the communicator badge and they have to put in the beep
    noise while she’s just waving her hands in the air. By all accounts, she’s
    also a completely wretched human being, as well as a horrible convention speaker.


    Incidentally, it wasn't entirely McFadden that caught Hurley's ire. Hurley >> was
    brought on by Roddenberry's lawyer, Leonard Maizlish (who was himself
    thoroughly despised by almost everyone involved with the series); Maizlish >> had
    no authority at all to hire or fire anyone, but the studio did very little >> to
    rein him in, even when Maizlish deliberately violated Writer's Guild rules >> by
    re-writing scripts.

    As for Hurley, he'd had no previous science fiction experience, was openly >> disdainful of Gene's optimistic view of the future, and clashed regularly >> with
    almost everyone. It was a series of contentious arguments with Gene
    Roddenberry himself that led Hurley to leave the show at the end of the
    second
    season.

    Diana Muldaur's attempt to recreate Spock and McCoy's famous verbal jousting
    by arguing with Data just made Pulaski look prejudiced and mean-spirited, so
    once Hurley was gone, Rick Berman personally invited McFadden back to the >> show.

    Patrick Stewart takes credit for that, but then there’s no reason to believe a word he says about anything either.

    It was terrible that they made Pulaski be mean to Data. Her character could never recover from that. And then one day the turbo lift wasn’t there, and she walked into the shaft…

    LOL!

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to atropos@mac.com on Tue May 13 00:26:26 2025
    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    . . .

    Diana Muldaur's attempt to recreate Spock and McCoy's famous verbal jousting >by arguing with Data just made Pulaski look prejudiced and mean-spirited, so >once Hurley was gone, Rick Berman personally invited McFadden back to the >show.

    Waitaminit. Data being attacked by Pulaski was supposed to be Spock and
    McCoy? I never got that at all. I didn't mind the character but those
    scenes tended to ruin second season episodess that otherwise weren't
    awful.

    Interesting article. It's so disappointing how Roddenbery truly had no
    control at all.

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to atropos@mac.com on Tue May 13 04:07:44 2025
    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
    On May 12, 2025 at 5:09:02 PM PDT, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

    . . .

    It was terrible that they made Pulaski be mean to Data. Her character could >>never recover from that. And then one day the turbo lift wasn't there, and >>she walked into the shaft...

    LOL!

    March 21, 1991
    L.A. Law
    "Good to the Last Drop"

    I liked her on the original Star Trek but her characters were a bit
    stiff. She was way too hot for McCloud.

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  • From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to atropos@mac.com on Tue May 13 14:21:33 2025
    In article <vvtr2h$1ag4v$1@dont-email.me>, atropos@mac.com wrote:

    Diana Muldaur's attempt to recreate Spock and McCoy's famous verbal jousting >by arguing with Data just made Pulaski look prejudiced and mean-spirited

    It did not strike me as being mean, but people seem to have failed to noticed that Pulaski eventually softened her stance and accepted him.

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