• The Kilauea Volcano is Erupting Again

    From BTR1701@21:1/5 to All on Tue Dec 24 17:07:24 2024
    It's spewing billions of tonnes of Co2 into the Earths atmosphere. But
    sure, keep thinking spending billions of dollars on carbon capture and
    stopping cow farts is going to change the weather.

    I wonder how Newsom is going to address this problem (since only California under his leadership can save the earth, dontcha know). Maybe a per capita volcano tax on all countries that have them, since It's a proven fact that
    if you pay more taxes, the weather will change. (And by proven fact, I mean
    a quasi-religious leap of faith.)

    He's already having to deal with the results of the Stanford study that
    found that the carbon released by just one moderate-sized wildfire wipes
    out all the 'climate change' gains of the last 20 years in California. And
    how many mid-to-large wildfires do we have every year?

    Fun fact: the eruption of Mt. Saint Helens released more carbon into the atmosphere than all of humanity has since we split from the Neanderthals.

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  • From Rhino@21:1/5 to All on Tue Dec 24 15:06:20 2024
    On 2024-12-24 12:07 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    It's spewing billions of tonnes of Co2 into the Earths atmosphere. But
    sure, keep thinking spending billions of dollars on carbon capture and stopping cow farts is going to change the weather.

    I wonder how Newsom is going to address this problem (since only California under his leadership can save the earth, dontcha know). Maybe a per capita volcano tax on all countries that have them, since It's a proven fact that
    if you pay more taxes, the weather will change. (And by proven fact, I mean
    a quasi-religious leap of faith.)

    He's already having to deal with the results of the Stanford study that
    found that the carbon released by just one moderate-sized wildfire wipes
    out all the 'climate change' gains of the last 20 years in California. And how many mid-to-large wildfires do we have every year?

    Fun fact: the eruption of Mt. Saint Helens released more carbon into the atmosphere than all of humanity has since we split from the Neanderthals.

    I saw a video a couple of years back that was from a PBS series called
    Eras (which may or may not make it scientific fact AND perceived fact to
    the Left) that asserted that there was a time that the levels of CO2 in
    the air were much higher than they are now due to volcanoes but then the
    levels had gone considerably lower. Given that this was many millions of
    years before anything resembling human life existed, we know this was
    NOT caused by men nor repaired by men.

    The only logical deduction to make from this is that the earth harbours
    its own mechanisms to reduce CO2 that don't depend on people to activate
    it. Maybe it's time to research that and figure out what that mechanism
    is. It may well be that the carbon problem will take care of itself
    without expensive human intervention that is simultaneously frustrated
    by natural events that release carbon.

    As for Newsom, maybe he can finally allow tax money to be spent on
    thinning the underbrush that apparently makes the wildfires much worse
    that they might otherwise be. Instead of protecting obscure species of
    by protecting their habitats, he could put them in controlled
    environments that would let them flourish a different way.



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    Rhino

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  • From moviePig@21:1/5 to Rhino on Tue Dec 24 16:06:56 2024
    On 12/24/2024 3:06 PM, Rhino wrote:
    On 2024-12-24 12:07 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    It's spewing billions of tonnes of Co2 into the Earths atmosphere. But
    sure, keep thinking spending billions of dollars on carbon capture and
    stopping cow farts is going to change the weather.

    I wonder how Newsom is going to address this problem (since only
    California
    under his leadership can save the earth, dontcha know). Maybe a per
    capita
    volcano tax on all countries that have them, since It's a proven fact
    that
    if you pay more taxes, the weather will change. (And by proven fact, I
    mean
    a quasi-religious leap of faith.)

    He's already having to deal with the results of the Stanford study that
    found that the carbon released by just one moderate-sized wildfire wipes
    out all the 'climate change' gains of the last 20 years in California.
    And
    how many mid-to-large wildfires do we have every year?

    Fun fact: the eruption of Mt. Saint Helens released more carbon into the
    atmosphere than all of humanity has since we split from the Neanderthals.

    I saw a video a couple of years back that was from a PBS series called
    Eras (which may or may not make it scientific fact AND perceived fact to
    the Left) that asserted that there was a time that the levels of CO2 in
    the air were much higher than they are now due to volcanoes but then the levels had gone considerably lower. Given that this was many millions of years before anything resembling human life existed, we know this was
    NOT caused by men nor repaired by men.

    The only logical deduction to make from this is that the earth harbours
    its own mechanisms to reduce CO2 that don't depend on people to activate
    it. Maybe it's time to research that and figure out what that mechanism
    is. It may well be that the carbon problem will take care of itself
    without expensive human intervention that is simultaneously frustrated
    by natural events that release carbon.

    As for Newsom, maybe he can finally allow tax money to be spent on
    thinning the underbrush that apparently makes the wildfires much worse
    that they might otherwise be. Instead of protecting obscure species of
    by protecting their habitats, he could put them in controlled
    environments that would let them flourish a different way.

    Top of my head, yes, the earth does harbor such a mechanism. It's
    called 'plant life", which indeed goes nuts when there's abundant CO2.
    But I wouldn't count on its promptness to save human civilization.

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  • From Rhino@21:1/5 to moviePig on Tue Dec 24 17:17:17 2024
    On 2024-12-24 4:06 PM, moviePig wrote:
    On 12/24/2024 3:06 PM, Rhino wrote:
    On 2024-12-24 12:07 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    It's spewing billions of tonnes of Co2 into the Earths atmosphere. But
    sure, keep thinking spending billions of dollars on carbon capture and
    stopping cow farts is going to change the weather.

    I wonder how Newsom is going to address this problem (since only
    California
    under his leadership can save the earth, dontcha know). Maybe a per
    capita
    volcano tax on all countries that have them, since It's a proven fact
    that
    if you pay more taxes, the weather will change. (And by proven fact,
    I mean
    a quasi-religious leap of faith.)

    He's already having to deal with the results of the Stanford study that
    found that the carbon released by just one moderate-sized wildfire wipes >>> out all the 'climate change' gains of the last 20 years in
    California. And
    how many mid-to-large wildfires do we have every year?

    Fun fact: the eruption of Mt. Saint Helens released more carbon into the >>> atmosphere than all of humanity has since we split from the
    Neanderthals.

    I saw a video a couple of years back that was from a PBS series called
    Eras (which may or may not make it scientific fact AND perceived fact
    to the Left) that asserted that there was a time that the levels of
    CO2 in the air were much higher than they are now due to volcanoes but
    then the levels had gone considerably lower. Given that this was many
    millions of years before anything resembling human life existed, we
    know this was NOT caused by men nor repaired by men.

    The only logical deduction to make from this is that the earth
    harbours its own mechanisms to reduce CO2 that don't depend on people
    to activate it. Maybe it's time to research that and figure out what
    that mechanism is. It may well be that the carbon problem will take
    care of itself without expensive human intervention that is
    simultaneously frustrated by natural events that release carbon.

    As for Newsom, maybe he can finally allow tax money to be spent on
    thinning the underbrush that apparently makes the wildfires much worse
    that they might otherwise be. Instead of protecting obscure species of
    by protecting their habitats, he could put them in controlled
    environments that would let them flourish a different way.

    Top of my head, yes, the earth does harbor such a mechanism.  It's
    called 'plant life", which indeed goes nuts when there's abundant CO2.
    But I wouldn't count on its promptness to save human civilization.


    Well then, I guess we can just give up on the idea of a simple solution
    - or an alternate one - now that YOU have decided the issue.


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    Rhino

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  • From moviePig@21:1/5 to Rhino on Tue Dec 24 18:20:20 2024
    On 12/24/2024 5:17 PM, Rhino wrote:
    On 2024-12-24 4:06 PM, moviePig wrote:
    On 12/24/2024 3:06 PM, Rhino wrote:
    On 2024-12-24 12:07 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    It's spewing billions of tonnes of Co2 into the Earths atmosphere. But >>>> sure, keep thinking spending billions of dollars on carbon capture and >>>> stopping cow farts is going to change the weather.

    I wonder how Newsom is going to address this problem (since only
    California
    under his leadership can save the earth, dontcha know). Maybe a per
    capita
    volcano tax on all countries that have them, since It's a proven
    fact that
    if you pay more taxes, the weather will change. (And by proven fact,
    I mean
    a quasi-religious leap of faith.)

    He's already having to deal with the results of the Stanford study that >>>> found that the carbon released by just one moderate-sized wildfire
    wipes
    out all the 'climate change' gains of the last 20 years in
    California. And
    how many mid-to-large wildfires do we have every year?

    Fun fact: the eruption of Mt. Saint Helens released more carbon into
    the
    atmosphere than all of humanity has since we split from the
    Neanderthals.

    I saw a video a couple of years back that was from a PBS series
    called Eras (which may or may not make it scientific fact AND
    perceived fact to the Left) that asserted that there was a time that
    the levels of CO2 in the air were much higher than they are now due
    to volcanoes but then the levels had gone considerably lower. Given
    that this was many millions of years before anything resembling human
    life existed, we know this was NOT caused by men nor repaired by men.

    The only logical deduction to make from this is that the earth
    harbours its own mechanisms to reduce CO2 that don't depend on people
    to activate it. Maybe it's time to research that and figure out what
    that mechanism is. It may well be that the carbon problem will take
    care of itself without expensive human intervention that is
    simultaneously frustrated by natural events that release carbon.

    As for Newsom, maybe he can finally allow tax money to be spent on
    thinning the underbrush that apparently makes the wildfires much
    worse that they might otherwise be. Instead of protecting obscure
    species of by protecting their habitats, he could put them in
    controlled environments that would let them flourish a different way.

    Top of my head, yes, the earth does harbor such a mechanism.  It's
    called 'plant life", which indeed goes nuts when there's abundant CO2.
    But I wouldn't count on its promptness to save human civilization.

    Well then, I guess we can just give up on the idea of a simple solution
    - or an alternate one - now that YOU have decided the issue.

    Sorry, I assumed you'd want speculation about your speculation...

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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jan 2 13:33:22 2025
    On Tue, 24 Dec 2024 17:07:24 +0000, BTR1701 <no_email@invalid.invalid>
    wrote:

    Fun fact: the eruption of Mt. Saint Helens released more carbon into the >atmosphere than all of humanity has since we split from the Neanderthals.

    This includes atmospheric nukes right?

    (As an aside during the year I was a high school teacher one of my
    pupils gave me a vial of Mt Saint Helens ash which his father had
    scraped from his eaves on his summer cottage - alas that was 40 years
    ago and is one of the things I have lost along the way. It was a deep
    opaque emerald green color)

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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to no_offline_contact@example.com on Thu Jan 2 13:36:50 2025
    On Tue, 24 Dec 2024 15:06:20 -0500, Rhino
    <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    As for Newsom, maybe he can finally allow tax money to be spent on
    thinning the underbrush that apparently makes the wildfires much worse
    that they might otherwise be. Instead of protecting obscure species of
    by protecting their habitats, he could put them in controlled
    environments that would let them flourish a different way.

    You mean the sort of thing that has been done by much of southern
    British Columbia including my own municipality? (Burning in isolated
    places, "strategic logging" on the edges of suburban areas - like my
    own neighborhood where the forest starts across the street from me and
    is 50+ miles before reaching roads or other sign of mankind - for
    Rhino's benefit - that's the Whistler-Pemberton highway if he wants to
    go to Google maps)

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  • From moviePig@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jan 2 18:08:20 2025
    On 12/24/2024 12:07 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    It's spewing billions of tonnes of Co2 into the Earths atmosphere. But
    sure, keep thinking spending billions of dollars on carbon capture and stopping cow farts is going to change the weather.

    I wonder how Newsom is going to address this problem (since only California under his leadership can save the earth, dontcha know). Maybe a per capita volcano tax on all countries that have them, since It's a proven fact that
    if you pay more taxes, the weather will change. (And by proven fact, I mean
    a quasi-religious leap of faith.)

    He's already having to deal with the results of the Stanford study that
    found that the carbon released by just one moderate-sized wildfire wipes
    out all the 'climate change' gains of the last 20 years in California. And how many mid-to-large wildfires do we have every year?

    Fun fact: the eruption of Mt. Saint Helens released more carbon into the atmosphere than all of humanity has since we split from the Neanderthals.

    "All studies to date of global volcanic carbon dioxide emissions
    indicate that present-day subaerial and submarine volcanoes release less
    than a percent of the carbon dioxide released currently by human
    activities."

    - https://www.usgs.gov/programs/VHP/volcanoes-can-affect-climate

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